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What "record" is that edgy, that shows you don't threaten? The same one that shows you don't lie?
And why didn't you answer this the most recent question to you?
Now about those [questions] you've refused to answer ... where would you like to start?
You haven't said where you'd like to start and my question to you is all of only about five or ten minutes old and you seem to have read the rest of my post, so why didn't you answer my question?
Whydincha, huh? Why?
Please note there are three (3) questions in this post (not counting "whydincha?"). The first one is:
1/ What record is that [that shows you don't threaten]?
The second one is:
2/ Why didn't you answer this most recent question to you?
And the third one, embedded in the second one, is:
3/ Where would you like to start [answering previous questions you've refused to answer]?
Please to include all three (3) answers in one post.
And it is possible but unlikely that you don't know tommytonnabricks, at least not in person, face to face. Though I'm surprised since he invited half the country (as long as he thought they were well-heeled) to his 50th birthday bash, and you're in that category, oui? But of course you doknow who he is and his role in this singular story "and others" that are similar, so do try not to play ignorant. You, of all peeps, who profess to know everything.
I realize this post has gotten a tad long, but am sure you can sort through it and find the key points.
... already answered it. You must have missed it. Scroll back and I'm sure you'll find it.
Now about those you've refused to answer ... where would you like to start?
btw, edgy, threats don't work. After all, most of us were around during tommy's tonnabrick days and have seen 'em all.
That's very funny, coming from you ...
and I have no idea what question you've asked that you think I haven't answered.
Care to (re)post it?
Oh, were there a few questions peeps asked you that you didn't answer but ignored or twisted out of, changing the subject?
(You sure post a lot. Why's that?)
ohmyohmyohmy ... such agitated responses to my li'l post.
Taking them in order:
edgy (8999) ... when was capnwow ever "straightforward"? Just one example will do.
paige (9000) ... did I say Sandia WASN'T aware of "you" -- ie, cdex? Don't think so. Maybe you need new reading glasses.
doyour own (9002) ... sure I do. What lie did I tell (since that's your clear implication)? Be quite specific and precise, svp.
Anyone else want to take shot at me and/or anything I post?
Paige ... wouldn't it be a kick if xenophon was a patent attorney for Sandia? Would you be so sure that all was hunky dory then?
Food for thought, eh? Kind of a show stopper, eh?
Not that I think he is, but ya never know.
Even more food for thought: How hard would it be for Sandia to pursue li'l ol cdex? Whatchawannabet they have access to some of the best legal minds in the country and maybe around the world (not to denigrate H&H) and could make mincemeat of li'l ol' cdex and its one (ONE!) patent if they thought it necessary.
But ya know what? I doubt they would. Why? Because Sandia has more important things to do.
What do you know about patent law, paige? That getting this one (ONE, omygawd!) took a looooooong time so that makes it rock solid secure and valid? Especially since it has gone "thru a "few final rejections" (more than one)"? Is that some sort of trial by fire that cleansed cdex and proved the company's and the patent's purity and godliness? I never knew it was that easy!
And why was it on purpose -- whose purpose? -- that it took a looooooong time? What was served by "on purpose" making it take a long time? Just looking for clarification, paige.
Loved your final remark: "if I am wrong ohwell ... what does it matter anyway." Kinda puts anything you've ever posted or will post in the future in perspective, doesn't it?
Better leave patent discussions to peeps who know what they're talking about, paige. Just a suggestion for you (and inet who likes to think he knows everything about everything. Maybe he can ask his son to look into this for him -- that would be helpful, I'm sure).
Does CDEX even have a patent counsel? If so, what company? Or is it in-house?
(Edited with only 5 minutes left ... phew, just under the wire!)
You can "understand" from my post anything you like. Is that a direct enough answer for you?
btw, didja find it interesting that edgy posted something about Mark Neuhaus and Dennis Harris and third cousins? If he means they were third cousins (if I "understand" him correctly) that would make Merilee (we go along, go along, go along) and Mark "family", wouldn't it?
Does that mean loch/cdex is a family business? Just how bigg is the "family"?
btw, have you noticed how hard edgy works to change the subject, like with his "did Osicom have whatever hospital using whatever"? Weird, isn't it, how he keeps thinking he makes any sense whatsoever.
It must be awfully hard work for you and edgy and nasfy and pigscanfly "and others" trying to keep on top of things. Almost as hard work as for capnwow to find all those wowielinks he spends so much time on. A 24-hour-a-day job, nae doot.
Ya know what, doyourown? I wouldn't take xenophon, whoever he is, on aboot patent issues or scams. Sounds to me as if he just might know something about both.
(Edit) ... Here's a shining example of edgy's skill with the language and his debating skills:
"CDEX is not a scam, imhi, crow. But the things you and a few others type is. Even to the point of slander."
Someone please help me find a connection between "scam" and "to the point of slander." I just can't get it.
On the other hand ...
maybe Weil WOULD be newly interested, since this apparently involves things not mentioned (by him) before: patents and theft (?) thereof.
Maybe Sandia would be interested, as well. I doubt they've been following the loch/cdex story on their own. Oddly, I met someone a couple of years ago from Sandia who was pretty important there. I asked him if he knew "Dr" Henry Blair. Not surprisingly, he'd never heard of him. I'm sure Sandia's a big place, lots of departments, but someone as distinguished and degreed and renowned as "Dr" Blair would have run in the same rarified circles as this man, one would think.
Maybe his drinking made him a persona non grata, though. That must have been it.
Weil (WSJ New York offices -- shouldn;t be too hard to get a number or e-mail address for him) is apparently more interested in breaking stories than writing about them afterwards, except perhaps as case studies (see below and his credit for breaking the Enron story):
http://www.colorado.edu/journalism/programs/undergrad/newsedit.html
... but maybe you could contact someone named Barry Minkow at info@frauddiscovery.net and between you, you could persuade Weil to go further.
It's certainly worth a try.
How're norbert and tommy these days, moonie?
Give tommy my regards (through norbert, if that's the only way you can reach him) and be sure to let him know his luncheons (oh wait ... only one luncheon, he said) with nigel and potential clients they were soliciting, somewhere around the first of the year about five years ago, were duly noted. Oh wait ... no need to. He's fully aware of that.
Where is nigel these days, btw? What's he up to now? Pretty bad stuff, getting nailed on drug trafficking, wouldn't you say? I think he's prolly completed his sentence in merrie olde ... so what's he up to now? Ask tommy for an update, please, and let us all know.
And OT but it would be indicative of your "insight" into things great and small: please to tell everyone who RIPxGel was. He got his clock cleaned, did you know? Surely you do, have followed up after all these years. He did some very bad things, did you know that? Damn ... I keep forgetting ... of course you didn't/don't or you wouldn't have joined his band wagon so quickly. btw, just a wee tip: don't try to be friendly with bpxgel or or take on some of the others ... they'll eat your entrails for dinner.
And I always thought pilots were pretty smart. Just goes to show how easy it is to be proved wrong.
And my final tip of the day for you: Watch out for low flying bee-one-arr-dee's. They can wreak havoc with your engines and splat down ya go.
"admit", inet?
We "admitted" we own none?
That's an "admission"?
Was I forced to "admit" that I own none?
Was crow?
Don't think so, inet. We ("and others") just "got it" a little earlier than you and the other poor folk who still think all's okay in loch/cdexville.
But then you didn't want to open your eyes wide enough to investigate a Roth so how could you be expected to do anything comparable with one of your "investments" -- you're perfectly happy believing all is just as it should be, your mind's made up on both, and far be it from anyone to confuse you with facts.
Some might call your approach to your cdex "investment" symptomatic of a dreamer's mentality. Others might call it terminal mental torpor. (Look it up.)
I can assure you, "pigscanfly" ...
No one even remotely connected with loch/cdex, past or present, and no one who posts or has ever posted here or on RB "on behalf of" loch/cdex holds enough interest for me to waste a long distance call on. That includes you.
I think you'd better back up your insinuation that I have ever done anything even remotely similar.
d4 ... not to worry (not that you are).
moonieman makes it a hobby to attack without facts and if that doesn't work, by innuendo. He's very good at attacking. So is ugly (uxhg or whatever those letters are).
Ask him to tell everyone who RIP was. He can't, but he piggybacked on his posts at every chance. Isn't it odd that he wouldn't find out more about him before becoming a fan and doing his level best to help bring another company, one he didn't like, down. Doesn't seem consistent, somehow, but oh well.
btw, it didn't work.
Remember, moonieman is the pilot extraordinaire who didn't even know what airports were in his area til he was told! Would you find anything at all to worry about or accept as knowledge from this man, except perhaps riding in his aeromachine? You wouldn't get me within 100 miles of his "craft" -- including his unique math !
pretty feeble, edgy ...
ya gotta do betternthat if you want to "convince" anyone of anything.
scared ...
"Have no clue who had a hand in that. Honestly, I dont think sassy had a thing to do with it. Although you and a few others spoke your mind, I really never saw much of anything you posted that should have gotten you tossed. I think there was more there than meets the eye."
Yes you do, scared (have a "clue") -- please be truthful about that. I don't know how much more clearly it could all be stated by those of us who were zapped. And of course "there was more there than meets the eye." There continues to be.
I guess it all boils down to what people you believe. You've been one of the most up-front saying the so-called bashers were actually telling the truth about the scam being perpetrated by loch principals and their far-flung network of supporters and pals -- though you "and others" came to understand that after it was too late to escape the 1:50 reverse split, after overlooking all the other "clooze."
This time around, there's no justification for your being "unsure" of what the same people are telling you.
Written with appropriate respect for your willingness to wait for the full story to unfold before passing judgment ... but c'mon, scared. This hardly takes an advanced degree in the sciences or business to understand (though some have those qualifications). The players have changed but the game's the same.
Or said another way ... symptoms of the cancer might have been less obvious for about five years but the disease is hardly in remission or the patient (loch/cdex) cured.
Coming face to face with reality often hurts.
mornin', crow ...
just a bunch of white collar crooks, the whole lot of them.
Really hard to imagine they got away with it, but it looks as if they did.
Unless there's still more to come.
will do, rotten ... don't know what got into me!
btw, do you have any idea where icancdeadpeople fondly known as icky is these days, what he's up to? He hasn't been heard from, at least not on the boards by that alias, since the zapping days.
Same with so many old posters ... nasfanium, elrheo, tommy, p-whatever ... even pennypincher or whatever it was (aka nigel) ... have they all evaporated?
sassy & rotten ...
thanks for your concern, but mine didn't freeze. Just lucky I guess.
btw sassy, you clever "person" ... did you ever see those malcbaby projections? Surely you must have, you're so connected 'n all. What did you and your shrewd hubby make of them? Pretty hard to imagine li'l ol' cdex could do so well in 5 (five) short years, huh? And shore nuff they dint. (But malcbaby tried, he really really tried.)
rotten ...
those projections were a hoot to say the least!
... and based on such solid facts and reasoning! IE, none at all, just: what will make dasuckers buy in? Even former Tejas bankers, who should have known better.
But he made it up to certain PP'ers by allowing them to buy more PP shares ...
See above. And all they were doing by parting with their hard-earned money was letting malcbaby do his thing, which included but was not limited to running out the clock.
... at a (just for you pigsCANfly) ridiculous price.
akshally, it's redicalus (tm - widely).
(ps ... very cold in NS ... pipes froze last night)
rotten ...
a better example is malcbaby's earnings and ebit projections for 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 and 2005! And now 2005 is over ... don't think any of them were reached ... but "we tried, we really really tried."
Maybe he doesn't like his Greek heritage?
Maybe he took his mother's (or someone else's) maiden name?
Or maybe he thinks he's hidden in plain sight!
you're tedious and terminally boring, edgy.
oh. I must have misunderstood.
(off to brush my teeth)
(edit: but you wouldn't understand that)
4diddy ...
are you suggesting that Blair was the fall guy?
hmmmmmm ...
game, set ... match? prolly not quite yet.
but getting closer every day in every way.
you can't pursue the neuhaus tangent you brought up, edgy?
"no can do"?
now why is that? You opened that particular door, edgy ... just go ahead and walk right on through it. Talk a little about bank statements, for starters.
On your profound statement about reading the filings ... I suspect there are some who find the filings somewhat incomplete and less than informative and will or have already "read" or otherwise discover[ed] much more than they reveal. Not just the loch filings; cdex's very own filings.
Ya think?
my my, edgy ... you go back really really far.
You wonder if Neuhaus ever actually forked over the $million? You raise the question of whether or not it was seen on any bank statement?
Keep going, edgy ... pursue that tangent. I'm sure a few peeps would love to hear your take on neuhaus and his philanthropic (no doubt) gesture.
now that's funny, robert ...
I have no doubt in my mind that had LOCH HARRIS never existed, CDEX would have had a much cleaner path to go.
"Had loch never existed"? Had loch never existed, mp would never have been given the "opportunity" to make his own personal killing. And imagine, all because he and rod played golf together!
Had loch never existed, you'd never have had the opportunity to answer mp's mail for him. (or write outrageous earnings projections for him?)
Had loch never existed, you and a few others might have had the opportunity of making an honest living (well, maybe that's pushing it).
Had loch never existed I"d never have had the opportunity to have lunch with rio (aka). That would have been the saddest of all.
Had loch never existed ... is that to be the new mantra?
Absolutely sickening, isn't it, rotten ...
crossed swords over his head as he walks the gauntlet.
the National Anthem booming in the background.
not a dry eye in the house.
(I wonder what the Christians, father and son, would have to say ... maybe raiderman and capnmike can ask them for their views and record them for posterity here or on the troo board.)
Brasil!
Where the hunt for red oktober all began, with an article in 'globo' about oh five years ago!
Circles within circles.
All of the above, crow and xenophon. [eom]
from Form SB-2, 12/30/2004:
EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENTS
Effective January 1, 2002, we entered into employment agreements with each of our executive officers. The agreements with Malcolm Philips and Timothy Shriver each continue for an indefinite period unless terminated by CDEX for "cause," or by the employee for "good reason" (as such terms are defined in the agreements), or upon two weeks prior written notice by either party to the other. The agreements provide for salaries based on annual amounts of $300,000 for Mr. Philips and $250,000 for Mr. Shriver, which are subject to review on an annual basis. The salary shall be payable in equal monthly installments, unless otherwise required by applicable state law and, based on CDEX's economic posture, may be paid in cash and/or stock, at CDEX's option. Each agreement provides for a minimum monthly cash payment to the employee of $7,500 for Mr. Shriver and $3,000 for Mr. Philips. CDEX has availed itself of this option for the past three fiscal years as reflected under "Compensation of Executive Officers." Each of these agreements provides for the forfeiture of restricted stock granted to the employee in the event of the employee's termination before the stock is fully vested. Under the agreements, each employee is entitled to a severance package in the event of termination by CDEX other than for "cause" or by the employee for "good reason." In each case, "good reason" includes a change in management of CDEX.
All of these employment agreements were amended on January 1, 2003 to
(a) increase the intended minimum monthly cash payment to the employee to $8,000,
(b) permit CDEX to pay the entire salary in common stock if paying cash is not in the best interest of the Company and
(c) adjust the severance provisions to reflect that (i) if termination occurred before January 1, 2004, payment of an amount equal to three years of the then current annual salary and CDEX common stock equal to three times the amount of initial stock grant provided to the employee when he started his employment;
(ii) if termination occurs after January 1, 2004 but before January 1, 2005, payment of an amount equal to two years of the then current annual salary and CDEX common stock equal to two times the amount of initial stock granted to the employee; or (iii) if termination occurs on or after January 1, 2005 but before January 1, 2006, payment of an amount equal to the then current annual salary and CDEX common stock equal to the amount of initial stock granted employee.
Effective January 1, 2003, we entered into an Employment Agreement with Dr. Wade Poteet. Except for Dr. Poteet's compensation, this agreement provides for substantially the same general terms and conditions as the employment agreements set forth above with an annual base salary of $210,000. The agreement is generally consistent with the agreements of all employees, providing a compensation package of cash and stock, along with an initial stock grant with forfeiture provisions should the employee resign from CDEX prior to a certain date.
give it a rest, edgy (whichever one you are now) ...
you've gotten very tiresome.
crow ...
"It is possible, EDGe to sue for patent infringement. ..."
Not only possible, but likely. And to win.
(Is there an IP attorney in the house?)
capndagood posted an old outdated "factoid" ?!?!
Noooooooo ... not da gude capn ... he's too gude at research to do that!
But you're prolly right -- he never thought anyone would notice (or remember).
Doubt he's pouting ... more likely has lost his kool trying to reach malc to see what's gone wrong ... it was s'posed to be so smooth and easy ... but malc's no doubt ignoring his pleas for help and that makes michael mad, so mad he might start screaming at him! Into his answering machine, even!
Oh well. The noose tightens.
he's a joke, crow ...
even on the troo b'leever board.
(what's happened to capnwow? or have I just overlooked his recent posts? haven't seen one since the filing -- maybe he's writing an open letter to malcbaby finally.)
inet ...
Then again maybe he put in a couple of hundred thousand bucks and hours to help his father-in-law initiate the takeover,
And where would he get a couple of hundred thousand bucks for this purpose, inet? I understand St. John's is a pretty expensive college ... how did he pay for that?
He must be a very wealthy man in his own right to "risk" a couplahundredthou on a company like sexycexi, after obtaining a Masters at St. John's.
Or was the couplahundredthou a no-risk contribution from an account not in merg's veryownname?
How friendly is merg with his father-in-law's predecessors (the ones still living, that is)?
Does magicmerg (tm - me) play golf?
So many questions.
One more: Have you opened your Roth yet? Oh never mind, I know the answer. That's out of your "limited thinking pattern" even after it;s all been laid out for you.
but but but, rotten !!!
I KNOW St. John's and it MUST be a mistake! Would someone with a degree from St. John's take a job as his devoutly religious and moral and sec-savvy scamster father-in-law's lacky? No way. Unless, of course, he was spending a couple of well-paid years learning the ropes at his father-in-law's knee.
Next we'll see a Harvard MBA and Yale JD after his name. Plus nae doot (tm - crow) Doctor of Divinity from who knows where.
(Listening to Arianna now and just can't take any more of her voice so g'nite)
goodgawd ...
"Mr. Mergenthaler holds ... an MA from St. Johns College, Annapolis."
This must be a mistake.
It looks as if the very discerning on diamonte's board have been disappointed by the filing.
A general malaise seems to prevail.
It also doesn't seem to have given capndagood cause for another WOW !!!! But maybe he's working late tonight and polishing his posts for tomorrow.
And all under the light of a brand new moon and the first day of the Chinese New Year.
Poetic, it truly is.