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dropping like your daughthers panties on prom night.
ahahahhahahaha ... classic
so do you buy your investments or are they given to you to promote so the price you sell at is reflective of how good a job you do???
promote known professional diluters and the companies they're diluting??
what's your schedule buddy?
i have spoken....
lol
how is it that you are the only one that can talk to them...
Posted by: topsail06
In reply to: Papagaio who wrote msg# 13064 Date:11/8/2006 4:04:43 PM
Post #of 13227
well, if stagger is on to something. we might as well have a picture of Mr. Rosenman.
http://www.news-press.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Site=A4&Date=20060906&Category=NEWS0102&....
i always keep some "liquid" my friend...
but I want to see results.. soo far havn't seen F all..
just connections with scum backs, same old buyback routine, and same old swelling O/S...
if they eliminate 100 million shares that they have bought out of the market I will completely change my views and probably even consider buying again...
they said in July they were going to update the T/A and state and never did... now they said it again in October... so far... never did...
im sure u are
11/08/06 15:31:09 0.005 0.005 0.005 3,134,000 SELL
RUTHLESS..
they just dont give a sh*t... .005 won't be there forever so lets make sure WE get most of it... wow
thats just it, that kid probably has nothing... and Ed Hayter has no direct contact with this, right???... everyone keeps preaching we bought him out so to the blind eye he is no longer involved yet controls everything and all the decisions...your going after a 28 year old kid who is running a restaurant for someone, your not going to get much and you won't be able to get Hayter.. been doing it for too long... just my opinion, could be wrong..
didnt you just tell everyone to relax?
why you stirrin ???
LOL
look what FGFC has done to thier shareholders.. IMO their isnt a comfortable shareholder in this stock...
IMO you gotta watch out for those who have constantly spit nothing but PRO's... Even ROTH, one of the longest and strongest in this has offered a shrug to the table and a question from time to time.. but those who haev nothing to say but constant pro this or that and wait wait wait from .02 cents??? ... are they seriously not in the slightest concerned because HOLY.. maybe I need some meds to or something.. but I could never shrug off a 75% loss with the amount of unanswered questions that we have been succumbed to over the past few months...there is no way that everyone who sold needs meds...lol
i cant even believe this... .005?????... there's gunna be nothing left soon...
oh man I sincerely hope this goes up for those like ROTH IRA and the other good hearted longs....but damn....
and what do you mean STILL 321, I thought it was like 312, when did that last jump happen...
well its .005 and they definately don;t want to sell.... (posted that last week)
I apologize to all the longs on this board for anything I have ever posted on here to frustrate you..this has been a bad journey...devastating for some... and for others, their millions are still coming...
rosenman is not hayter's son they are just connected... apparantly
you think that kid is buying back shares??
u deserve a people mark for your crazy dd work..lol
people from the board have found and posted this: posts from a number of members are at the very bottom... a lot to read but if you have some money in here and five minutes may be worth it....
Company Name: First Guardian Financial Corp.
Alternate Names: Kid Rom Inc. (Name Change), Millennium direct Inc. (Name Change), Viyon Corp. (Name Change)
Millennium Direct, Inc. (the "Company") was organized under the laws of the State of Delaware on September 13, 1994, as Kid Rom Inc. On April 3, 2001, the Company filed Form 8-K12G-3/A with the Securities and Exchange Commission. This Form reported the merger of Millennium Direct, Inc. and Blue Capital Associates,Inc. in a stock for stock exchange. The Company operates in two divisions:
1. Skin care products, an
2. Entertainment and educational videos.
MILLENNIUM DIRECT, INC was run by BY: George S. Balis, CEO and was a huge scam….and Balis got booked… whether Hayter was behind the scenes at this point is unknown…
Here is some info on and what happened to Balis
The chairman and chief executive of a marketing company was convicted of conspiracy, securities fraud and wire fraud after trying to bilk an investor out of $300,000 in an unsuccessful kickback scheme, the authorities said yesterday. The man, George S. Balis, the head of Millennium Direct, was arrested in 2003 when he used fake documents and made false statements to persuade an investor -- actually an undercover federal agent -- to lend him $300,000 so he could make an infomercial for a bogus anti-wrinkle skin cream. In reality, the authorities said, Mr. Balis, 58, planned to keep much of the money and kick back thousands of dollars to a broker (yet another undercover federal agent) who introduced him to the investor. Mr. Balis was convicted in Federal District Court. He faces up to 30 years in prison and a fine of $250,000 when he is sentenced on Oct. 28.
Respondent George S. Balis was admitted to the practice of law in New York by the First Judicial Department on March 1, 1976, as George Steven Balis. Respondent currently maintains his law practice in Yonkers, New York.
On August 9, 2005, respondent was convicted in the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York (Lynch, J), after a jury trial, of conspiracy to commit securities fraud and/or wire fraud (15 USC §§ 77q[a] and 77x, 18 USC §§ 371 and 1343), securities fraud (15 USC §§ 77q[a] and 77x, and 18 USC § 2), and wire fraud (18 USC §§ 1343 and 2), all felonies under the United States Code.[FN1]
However, the case at bar involves a conviction under different sections of the Code, namely, 15 USC §§ 77q(a) and 77x, which this Court has on one occasion found to be "substantially similar" to GBL § 352-c(5) and (6) (Matter of Miller, 246 AD2d 35 [1998]). General Business Law § 352-c(5) reads in pertinent part:
Any person...who intentionally engages in any scheme constituting a systematic ongoing course of conduct with intent to defraud ten or more persons or to obtain property from ten or more persons by false or fraudulent pretenses, representations or promises, and so obtains property from one or more of such persons while engaged in inducing or promoting the ...sale...or purchase of any securities...shall be guilty of a class E felony (emphasis added).
GBL § 352-c(6) reads: [*2]
Any person...who intentionally engages in fraud, deception, concealment, suppression, false pretense or fictitious or pretended purchase or sale, or who makes any material false representation or statement with intent to deceive or defraud, while engaged in inducing or promoting the ...sale...or purchase within or from this state of any securities...and thereby wrongfully obtains property of a value in excess of two hundred fifty dollars, shall be guilty of a class E felony (emphasis added).
Respondent argues that since there was no proof of an ongoing systematic course of conduct involving 10 or more investors (the evidence suggested one potential investor), or anyone obtaining property while promoting the distribution or purchase of securities (let alone property worth more than $250), and because he told the investor the truth, his conduct does not fall within the parameters of subdivisions (5) and (6) and, therefore, constitutes only a misdemeanor under GBL § 352-c.
Indeed, the record before us indicates that respondent did not obtain money or property, rather, he attempted to defraud a potential investor, and so, under New York statutes, did not commit a felony
Let alone the gross administrative and travel expenses, they were buying businesses off they’re friends and family members then writing them off as no value…
On February 1, 1998, Millennium, through a wholly-owned subsidiary, acquired substantially all of the assets of UDL (the "Acquisition"), for a total purchase price of $1,216,750. In April 2001, the Company acquired all of the issued and outstanding stock of Blue Capital Associates, Inc. in exchange for stock valued at $116,206. The acquisition represented a public shell corporation and as such, the Company determined that there was no future value to this acquisition and has therefore provided for an impairment loss in the amount equal to the consideration paid for the shares Inconnection therewith, Millennium agreed to advance up to $200,000 to a shareholder of Blue Capital.
Over and over (In the next one he buys his wife company for over 6 million dollars…lol
On February 1, 1998, Millennium, through a wholly-owned subsidiary,
acquired substantially all of the assets of UDL (the "Acquisition"), for a total
purchase price of $6,334,600. The consideration consisted of $400,000 in cash
and the issuance of 3,025,000 restricted shares of our common stock valued at
$5,934,600. Concurrent with the Acquisition, Millennium executed a letter of agreement which granted to Ardis Balis, the Chairperson and Founder of UDL, etc ..( that’s George Balis’s wife)
As of December 31, 1998, Millennium had invested $161,621 to obtain a
nineteen percent (19%) equity interest in a company which develops and markets
gourmet snack foods.
Paying themselves for some of their rent for a room out of their house
The Company leases its office space, on a month-to-month basis, from a stockholder. For 2001 and 2000, the Company recorded rent expense under these leases of approximately $29,800 and $36,000, respectively.
Paying insane consulting fees to themselves of course…
EXPENSE DESCRIPTION MARCH 31, 2000
Advertising $211,135
Depreciation and amortization 32,733
Consulting fees 394,353
Professional fees 36,565
Travel and trade shows 60,825
LIQUIDITY AND CAPITAL RESOURCES
Millennium has financed its operations and met its capital requirements primarily through funds raised in private placements conducted since 1996.Beginning in 1998 with its acquisition of UDL, Millennium has been able to finance, in part, operations from income. The principal uses of operating cash are to further develop and produce Millennium's children's videos, as well asits skin care products marketed under the Theracel brand. Millennium expects to generate cash flow from operations due to the anticipated direct television marketing of its TheraCel skincare system. The Company may also seek to raise additional funds through private placements of equity, debt or a combinationt hereof. In the event that the Company is unable to raise funds through private placements or from operations, Millennium's ability to conduct its operations as planned may become uncertain.
We may seek to issue corporate debt or equity securities in order to meet additional cash needs for the coming year. Any debt incurred or issued by us maybe secured or unsecured, fixed or variable rate interest and may be subject to such terms, as our board of directors deems prudent. Any sales of equity securities may be at or below current market rates for our common stock.
They spent over $200,000 on advertising in 2000. Then.. sales totaled $607 for the three months ended September 30, 2001; an increase from $0 for the three months ended September 30, 2000. This increase is largely attributable to the increase in sales.
WATCH THEM KILL THEY”RE STOCK
ITEM 4. RECENT SALES OF UNREGISTERED SECURITIES
Year Quarter High Bid Low Bid Year Quarter High Bid Low Bid
1998 1st* 10.313 2.75 1999 1st* 1.531 0.375
1998 2nd* 4.813 0.625 1999 2nd* 1.063 0.375
1998 3rd* 2.813 1.25 1999 3rd* 0.563 0.250
1998 4th* 2.625 1.50 1999 4th 1.25 0.250
Year Quarter High Bid Low Bid
2000 1st* 1.25 0.25
2000 2nd* 1.25 0.25
2000 3rd* 1.25 0.25
In February, 1997, Millennium issued 2,300,000 shares of Common Stock
at a price of $.0001 per share. Woah! In 98 the share price was from $2.75 to $10.00 This transaction was exempt from registration
under the Securities Act of 1933, as amended (the "Securities Act"), pursuant to
Section 4(2) thereof, since they were issued solely to members of management and
directors of Millennium. Also in February, 1997, Millennium issued 578,000
shares of Common Stock for par value ($.0001) as compensation for services
rendered. This transaction was exempt from registration under the Securities
Act, pursuant to Section 4(2) thereof since they were issued solely to members
of management and directors of Millennium.
In December, 1997, Millennium issued 600,000 shares of Common Stock to
two individuals as compensation for serving as directors of Millennium. This
transaction was exempt from registration pursuant to Section 4(2) of the
Securities Act since they were issued solely to members of management and
directors of Millennium. Also in December, 1997, Millennium sold 398,000 shares
of Common Stock for $.25 per share, which such transaction was exempt from
registration pursuant to Section 4(2) of the Securities Act and Regulation D
promulgated thereunder, specifically, Rule 504 thereof. Also in December, 1997,
Millennium sold 82,353 shares of Common Stock for $.25 per share. This
transaction was exempt from registration pursuant to Section 4(2) of the
Securities Act and Regulation D promulgated thereunder, specifically, Rule 504
thereof.
In March, 1998, Millennium issued 500,000 shares of Common Stock to
Ardis Balis, an officer and director of Millennium, pursuant to the Acquisition
Agreement, which transaction was exempt from registration pursuant to Section
4(2) of the Securities Act.
In April, 1998, Millennium issued 800,000 shares to Ardis Balis to
comply with the terms of the Acquisition Agreement. This transaction was exempt
from registration pursuant to Section 4(2) of the Securities Act. Also in April,
1998, Millennium sold 300,000 shares at a price per share of $.16 and 250,000
shares for $.25 per share. These transactions were exempt from registration
pursuant to Section 4(2) of the Securities Act and Regulation D promulgated
thereunder, specifically, Rule 504 thereof.
In April, 1998, Millennium issued 400,000 shares of Common Stock at par
value, $.0001, to George Balis, an officer and director of Millennium. This transaction was exempt from registration pursuant to Section 4(2) of the Securities Act.
In April, 1998, Millennium sold 100,000 shares at a price of $.50 per
share, and an additional 100,000 shares for $.85 per share, which such
transactions were exempt from registration pursuant to Section 4(2) of the
Securities Act and Regulation D promulgated thereunder, specifically, Rule 504
thereof.
Also in April, 1998, Millennium issued 350,000 shares to Ardis Balis to
remain in compliance with the terms of the Acquisition Agreement. This
transaction was exempt from registration pursuant to Section 4(2) of the
Securities Act. Additionally, Millennium sold 350,000 restricted shares of
Common Stock for $.35 per share, which such transaction was exempt from
registration pursuant to Section 4(2) of the Securities Act and Regulation D
promulgated thereunder, specifically, Rule 504 thereof. In April, 1998,
Millennium sold an additional 300,000 shares of Common Stock at $.166 per share.
This transaction was exempt from registration pursuant to Section 4(2) of the
Securities Act and Regulation D promulgated thereunder, specifically, Rule 504
thereof.
In July, 1998, Millennium issued 275,000 shares to Ardis Balis to
remain in compliance with the terms of the Acquisition Agreement, which such
transaction was exempt from registration pursuant to Section 4(2) of the
Securities Act. Also in July, 1998, Millennium sold 75,000 shares to one entity
and 200,000 shares to another entity, both at a price per share of $.50, and
both exempt from registration pursuant to Section 4(2) of the Securities Act and
Regulation D promulgated thereunder, specifically, Rule 504 thereof.
In September, 1998, Millennium sold 137,500 shares, pursuant to Section
4(2) of the Securities Act and Regulation D promulgated thereunder,
specifically, Rule 504 thereof, for $.50 per share. Also in September, 1998,
Millennium issued 700,000 shares to Ardis Balis to remain in compliance with the
terms of the Acquisition Agreement. Also in September, 1998, Millennium sold
120,000 shares of Common Stock for $.20 per share, pursuant to an exemption from
registration pursuant to Section 4(2) of the Securities Act and Regulation D
promulgated thereunder, specifically, Rule 504 thereof.
In September, 1998, in three unrelated transactions, Millennium sold
50,000 shares of Common Stock at $.30 per share, 80,000 shares at $.50 per share
and 50,000 shares at $.65 per share, all pursuant to an exemption from
registration pursuant to Section 4(2) of the Securities Act and Regulation D
promulgated thereunder, specifically, Rule 504 thereof.
In October, 1998, Millennium sold 2,985 shares of Common Stock at $.40
per share, pursuant to an exemption from registration pursuant to Section 4(2)
of the Securities Act and Regulation D promulgated thereunder, specifically,
Rule 504 thereof.
In November, 1998, Millennium sold 25,000 shares of Common Stock for
services rendered, which such services were valued at $44,500, or $.56 per
share. This transaction was exempt from registration pursuant to Section 4(2) of
the Securities Act.
In November, 1998, Millennium sold 75,000 shares at $.80 per share.
This transaction was exempt from registration pursuant to Section 4(2) of the
Securities Act and Regulation D promulgated thereunder, specifically, Rule 504
thereof.
In three unrelated transactions in December, 1998, Millennium sold
80,000, 290,000 and 30,000 shares of Common Stock each for $.50 per share,
pursuant to an exemption from registration pursuant to Section 4(2) of the
Securities Act and Regulation D promulgated thereunder, specifically, Rule 504
thereof.
In December, 1998, Millennium sold 25,000 shares for $.80 per share,
pursuant to Section 4(2) of the Securities Act and Regulation D promulgated
thereunder, specifically, Rule 504 thereof. Also in December, 1998, Millennium
sold 12,000 shares of Common Stock for $.48 per share, pursuant to Section 4(2)
of the Securities Act and Regulation D promulgated thereunder, specifically,
Rule 504 thereof.
In January, 1999, Millennium sold 170,000 shares for $.50 per share,
pursuant to Section 4(2) of the Securities Act and Regulation D promulgated
thereunder, specifically, Rule 504 thereof.
In February, 1999, Millennium issued 75,000 restricted shares for
services rendered valued at $69,750, or $.93 per share, which such transaction
was exempt from registration pursuant to Section 4(2) of the Securities Act.
In March, 1999, Millennium sold 30,000 shares of Common Stock, pursuant
to Section 4(2) of the Securities Act and Regulation D promulgated thereunder,
specifically, Rule 504 thereof, for $.50 per share.
In April, 1999, Millennium sold 750,000 shares of Common Stock,
pursuant to Section 4(2) of the Securities Act and Regulation D promulgated
thereunder, specifically, Rule 504 thereof, for $.25 per share.
Also in April, 1999, Millennium sold 20,000 shares of Common Stock for services
rendered valued at $11,200, or $.56 per share, which such transaction was exempt
from registration pursuant to Section 4(2) of the Securities Act.
In July, 1999, Millennium sold 200,000 shares of Common Stock in
consideration for the termination of a marketing agreement, valued at $59,375 or
$.296 per share. Also in July, 1999, Millennium issued 50,000 shares of
restricted Common Stock in connection with services rendered, valued at $13,250,
or $.265 per share, which such transaction was exempt from registration pursuant
to Section 4(2) of the Securities Act.
In November, 1999, Millennium issued 350,000 shares of Common Stock to
Ardis Balis and 350,000 shares to George Balis for services rendered by each of
them as officers and directors of Millennium during 1999. Additionally,
Millennium issued 400,000 shares of Common Stock to be in compliance with the
terms of the Acquisition Agreement. All of these transactions were exempt from
registration pursuant to Section 4(2) of the Securities Act since they were
issued solely to members of management and directors of Millennium. Also in
November, 1999, Millennium sold 50,000 shares of Common Stock for services
rendered, which such services were valued at $5,000, or $.10 per share. This
transaction was exempt from registration pursuant to Section 4(2) of the
Securities Act.
In June 2000, Millennium issued 1,923,000 shares of its common stock to
certain consultants in consideration for services rendered, which services were
valued at a price of $.10 per share. All of these transactions were exempt from
registration pursuant to Section 4(2) of the Securities Act. In addition,
1,923,000 shares of its common stock were issued to Ardis Balis in compliance
with the terms of the Acquisition Agreement.
So Balis gets booked in the anti-wrinkle skin cream scam under Millennium Direct… Millennium Direct switches names to Viyon Corp and gets a different owner…Edward hayter still sells skin cream and some videos…
VIYON CORP:
Millennium Direct, Inc.
(now Viyon Corporation) and now Hayter comes in the picture from what I can see…
Date: May 11, 2005. By: /s/Edward Hayter
-------------------------------
Viyon Corp aggressively advertised and
As of December 31, 2001 the Company has $2,997,000 of net operating loss
carryforwards available to offset future taxable income.
$ 2,997,000
Also:
Person
EDWARD HAYTER
Records 1 - 3 of 3.
Company Name Form Type Received Date View
CAPITAL SOLUTIONS I, INC. SC 13D/A
7/8/2005
MILLENNIUM DIRECT INC 15-12G
5/12/2005
CAPITAL SOLUTIONS I, INC. 10QSB
10/15/2004
CAPITAL SOLUTIONS – TRADES UNDER CSNI ALL theyre reports done by Turner Hughes corp of which Edward Hayter is the owner… CSNI related to PRRM of which was a scam and is now SMMW … Richard Astrom was invoved there as well…
“secondly the company has been asked
about any involvement of a Mr. Chris Astrom and/or Mr. Richard Astrom
neither men have any involvement in management or ownership of this
company furthermore if anyone persists in implying this the company
will pursue any and all legal remedies.” Woah now…
“since there is a gag on the transfer agent, the only source for float/OS info is the company themselves, but consider this: before i discovered that the OS had swelled to 6.2B [source: TA, before they were gagged], the company was telling individuals that only 150M were OS...so my question is this: it appears that the company was misleading individuals with vastly inaccurate info...and went out of their way to silence the TA...do you think them trustworthy? [at the time of discovery of the 6.2B OS, 6B was "restricted", however, the terms of the restricted were not revealed]”
“ Capital Solutions One, hereby agrees to pay Turner Hughes Corp a flat sum ofTwenty Three Million Shares (23,000,000) shares of common stock bearing thestandard Rule 141 restrictive legend.”
Why do you think Turner Hughes is so successful?? lol
“Unfortunately Mr. Hayter’s years of experience has not kept IBAC Corp Stock prices (IBCX.PK) from plummeting since early 2005 to Sept 2006. Some stockholders believe the stock will one day improve after the release of the certified audit. However Mr. Hayter has announced there is an audit soon to be released or underway for over a year and a half.” Hmmmmmmm..
IBAC Corp mirrors FGFC and was a scam.. same sh*T.. buybacks announced that never went anywhere CEO saying he’s buying back , deals that went nowhere… worst part is this.. connection with Hayter again…
First Guardian Financial Corp
2167 E. 21st Street
PMB 103
United States
Tel: 1/718 891-8188
Fax: 1/775 320-5437
IBAC Corp
2167 E.21st Street PMB 103
Brooklyn, NY 11229
United States
Tel: 1/ 718 250 4609
Fax: 1/ 718 923 0352
Woah it’s the same address.. coincidence… nope…. …
ICAN, IBAC same thing trades under IBCX
ed hayter, CEO of ICAN
http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/company_profile.jsp?symbol=ICAN
--------------------------------------
ed hayter, Pres of VYNC Viyon Corporation
http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/company_profile.jsp?symbol=vync
----------------------------------------
ed hayter, founder and Pres, turner hughes
http://www.turnerhughescorp.com/index.html
NOTE: link to management profile has been removed within past few days, but can be confirmed here
list of clients:
- Buy Sell Merge, Inc. ?? “”””
- Cosmos Group, Inc. ?? “ THEY RECENTLY REMOVED THESE “
- Windsor Capital Corp ?? “””””
- First Atlantic Mortgage Company
- Development Corporation Of America
- Elizabeth Edwards Corporation - Pulte Homes
- Gulf Coast Attractions, Inc.
- The Interconnect Company
- The New Arena Theater
- Celebrity Theater
- Wenzelmeister Industries - Caleric Trading Company
- International Hotel Management, Inc.
- Millennium Direct, Inc. ??
- Viyon Corporation ??
- Software By Bay
- John Bay & Associates
CEO hayter states 150M AS, 75M OS
[as per many sources on BB board, up until late november]
TA reports 6.2B OS on november 29
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=4681444
gag is put on TA on december 6
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=4749413
dec 13, VYNC homepage has been changed, deleting links to PRRM/windsor capital deals [mentioned above]
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=ICAN&read=40
part of that management?
Mr. Wenzel As Founder, and President of Caleric Corporation
http://www.viyon.com/management.htm
Mr. Wenzel As Founder, and President of Caleric Corporation
Turner Hughes is whom is lending the money to FGFC and Turner Hughes is owned by Hayter who bought Viyon…
Issuing stock completely defeats the purpose of the buyback.. they’re buying back 50 million shares yet they issue like 30 million in a few deals… pffft ok…
Viyon to First Guardian Financial & Abe. Rosenman
Rosenman from E.W. Corp. Edward Wayne Hayter, Sr. (born November 10, 1956
And recently…
Posted by moneystagger… Guys I hope I don't sound like a basher but it's been some time I wanted to let you guys Know....Some of the things you guys need to know is who Abraham Roseman is.He runs a Restaurant in Florida for Edward Hayter.
Posted by: topsail06
In reply to: Papagaio who wrote msg# 13064
Date:11/8/2006 4:04:43 PM
Post # of 13151
well, if stagger is on to something. we might as well have a picture of Mr. Rosenman.
http://www.news-press.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Site=A4&Date=20060906&Category=NEWS0102&....
Some other info.. posted by sawtooth…
Maybe FGFC is not a scam. Maybe its just the third iteration of a "hard money lending business" that started out with PRRM in 2004 and NHGP/CMSI in 2005. Lets hope this time it works becauses the first two attempts sure didn't.
No matter. There is indisputable evidence that Hayter, Astrom, Guthrie, Fauzie and now Rosenman (if there is a Rosenman) all know each other and their businesses/shells are tied together.
Its also pretty clear the HDSN does most of the trading for these guys and will sell stock in their companys until their is'nt anyone left to buy. This is clear by the trail of subpenny tickers left by these guys.
Look at PRRM, NRES, NHGP, VYNC, NRMG, IBCX, VYNC, CWFG, JMCP
Some more names and tickers to tie this all together.
CSIN, tied to Turner Hughes Inc and Damien Guthrie. Geuss who the I-Hub moderator was for CSIN??
The one and only Mighty Mouse.
Also search for Laura Anthony, Kristin Mary Ryals, Keri Wenzel. More puzzle pieces.
I'm not sure if Hayter and Astrom are outright crooks or just poor businessman who keep on reinventing themselves with new shells and companies.
Regardless, scam or fledgling business, FGFC is definitely tied to it all.
Now lets look at Ed Hayter. Heres his brief synopsis.
- He now is CEO of IBCX. Connected to Astrom, Guthrie, etc
- It looks like he also buys the shell of Millenium Direct from a guy named George Balis (a convicted scam artist). Its not clear to me what the relationship between Hayter and Balis is.
- Millenium Direct turns into "Viyon Corp" VYNC.
- Viyon Corp shortly turns into First Guardian Financial FGFC in Feb of 2006
Ed Hayter also owns Turner Hughes Corporation. Their client list includes BuySellMerge.com, Windsor Capital, and Cosmos Group (Fauzie M. comes into play again)
Now lets look at NHGP or "National Hospitality Group". Heres a brief synopsis of this company which existed in 2005.
-CEO Ed Hayter
-Ended up with Tampa Bay Mortgage (hard money lending from Astrom's PRRM) and the Pine Bluff Hotel (with money lent to it from Astrom's PRRM).
- From the press releases They were going to reduce shares, provide audited financials, and go OTC BB.
- Nothing much amounted from this shell and it turned into CMSI "Corporate Mortgage Solutions Inc"
- It was run by a fellow named Damien Guthrie and was still going to give hard money lending a go.
- Finally The Arkansas Hotel ended up as IBAC Corporation or IBCX with Ed Hayter as CEO.
- It appears that Tampa Bay Mortgage disappeared never to be heard from again and CMSI turned into a wallpaper company that eventually changed its symbol to BPWW
I wanted to believe too. But like Likwit DD prevailed and the true story is unfolding. I still hold a few shares just in case my due diligence is wrong.
This all started in 2004 with a company called "Prime Rate Investors" PRRM. Here is a brief synopsis of PRRM
- CEO Richard Astrom
- Main operating subsidiary was "Tampa Bay Mortgage Solutions" a hard money mortgage lender.
- Did a 1 for 10 forward split. Planned on going OTC BB
- Planned on providing audited financials. Reducing shares.
- Loaned $1 million to an Arkansas Hotel complex in Pine Bluff. The company that owned the hotel was NHGP. Its CEO was Ed Hayter.
- Hired "Windsor Capital" to help it acquire a NE hard money mortgage lender.
- Finally Richard Astorm and PRRM went their separate ways. Astrom with Tampa Bay Mortgage and PRRM with a TV station they acquired.
- Astrom eventually sold or transferred " Tampa Bay Mortgage" to NHGP. Ed Hayter is now owner of Tampa Bay Mortgage and the Pine Bluff Hotel.
The most damning DD is that PRRM did a Regdex 504 filing which is basically used to issue shares. Wien Securities handled the share issuance. Geuss who bought Wein?? Hudson securities did. Geuss what their listing symbol is?? Its HDSN our friends who are currently pounding the stock every day. HDSN has sold 275 mm shares of FGFC this year. Where do you think they are getting this stock.
11/07/06 15:44:39 0.007 0.006 0.007 509,000 ...SELL
11/07/06 15:43:09 0.007 0.007 0.007 61,000 ... BUY
11/07/06 15:37:09 0.006 0.006 0.006 75,900 ... SELL
11/07/06 15:07:10 0.006 0.006 0.006 100,000 .. SELL
11/07/06 15:02:40 0.006 0.006 0.006 1,699,300 ... SELL
11/07/06 15:01:10 0.006 0.006 0.006 18,000 ... SELL
11/07/06 14:50:40 0.006 0.006 0.006 25,000
11/07/06 14:41:40 0.007 0.006 0.006 1,183,600 ...SELL
11/07/06 14:28:11 0.006 0.006 0.006 100,000 ...& so on
11/07/06 14:01:11 0.006 0.006 0.006 76,100
11/07/06 13:46:12 0.006 0.006 0.006 100,000
11/07/06 13:34:12 0.007 0.007 0.007 75,000
11/07/06 13:29:42 0.006 0.006 0.006 100,000
11/07/06 13:28:12 0.006 0.006 0.006 10,000
11/07/06 13:25:12 0.006 0.006 0.006 100,000
11/07/06 13:23:42 0.006 0.006 0.006 135,000
11/07/06 13:19:12 0.007 0.007 0.007 110,000
11/07/06 13:17:42 0.007 0.006 0.007 115,000
11/07/06 13:08:42 0.007 0.007 0.007 200,000
11/07/06 13:04:12 0.006 0.006 0.006 438,000
11/07/06 12:02:44 0.006 0.006 0.006 10,000
11/07/06 11:26:45 0.006 0.006 0.006 131,000
11/07/06 11:25:15 0.006 0.006 0.006 55,000
11/07/06 11:11:45 0.006 0.006 0.006 111,700
11/07/06 11:04:15 0.006 0.006 0.006 209,800
11/07/06 10:55:15 0.007 0.006 0.007 39,000
11/07/06 10:46:15 0.006 0.006 0.006 65,500
11/07/06 10:44:45 0.007 0.006 0.006 2,000
11/07/06 10:34:16 0.006 0.006 0.006 100,000
11/07/06 10:14:46 0.006 0.006 0.006 5,000
11/07/06 10:10:16 0.006 0.006 0.006 300,000
that's because they are not selling out the entire bid and absolutely killing the stock.. someone asked yesterday why don't they sell it off really fast...probably if they sold anymore than that 1.7 million they would of filled all the buy orders... we move down when they chop out the bid and before it re-builds a real shareholder also dumps....knocks us down one.. then HDSN jumps down again and fills a crap load at that new bid... but hopefully just enough to leave enough for others to sell a few without knocking it down again...lol
wait till next week again eh??..ohh wow
they said the end of the month man... thats almost approaching next month...lol
i want to hear the first yay we closed at .0065...lol
they're still selling arn't they??
T/A still reporting double what the company is reporting???
fedex still not there?
that has always said that..
since couple months ago at least... if you go through our history we went over this weeks ago and someone paid the $20 and found that info...
apparently doesn't mean much though as the T/A's numbers still keep going up.....
Real Titan youve been here long enough to remember that.. why are you trying to avoid it..
they PR'd back in July that they were going to update the two of them... they just tried the same thing again.. nothing new.. they never did it then.. in fact O/S has jumped significantly since... do you expect them to do it now?
buyback was supposed to be completed AGAIN a week ago...
running out of options here.. gettin real ugly for them..
haha dunno.. just a pause...
IMHO there is no need for the PPS to exceed .01 again.. they seem content with selling the last bit they got where we are...
don't seem like they will try to create a run for the last little bit... probably only have a 100 million left to sell... from 400 million all over the map.. even up at .03.. not bad..
500 million shares at an average of a cent... not bad for a years work for these boys...
yah it may pause at our yearly low for a while..
did you expect something different... come on now..
so is Fedex to blame or FGFC...
sawtooth very good dd bud
IMO they don't want it to run up because it'll just run up into pre-existing shareholders sell orders who have gotten the wiser... all they can really do now is hover over the ask and issue a PR and let all the buys hit them.. once we uptick even once, they're not the ones doing the selling anymore...
I;ve been in here since June and have always remarked at how the ask has to usually get slaughtered for about an hour to get an uptick..lol...any long will tell you this happens. SOO many sell orders..the float's larger than they say IMO.. how much do you think is for sale between here and .0135 where we were... how long ago??? we've halved in a month for christs sake..
If FGFC bought 50 million shares out of the market for .007 and wanted to issue them to a company instead of cash, they would not be able to give them to the company for .007.. it would have to be less, maybe even .005 in order for them to accept the deal instead of cash.. what incentive is there for FGFC to buy the shares out of the market and issue them at a loss as opposed to just paying for the services? + now there is still extra stock out there and they keep stating they want the float as low as possible...
also if the shares were bought back and re-issued when they were, (I believe we were trading around a cent when this news came out), why would the company which accepted them as payment start offing them at basically 60% of what they got them for....
none of that makes sense...
IMO it seems they do have a broker... we all know who it is..HDSN and where your wrong is selling it all fast... that would net you the least amount of money... what would get you the most possible would be to wait for the bid to build and then hack it and wait for it to build then hack it until they see it's getting really weak, then they drop their load right down on the bid and sell into all the pre-existing orders.. wait for the bid to build and hack it, etc till no more bid... drop down another one... exactly what we have been witnissing... there is no more news they can post to get it to create a run for them to sell into..
i'm starting to think that even if a company PR'd they were scamming.. there would still be people buying for whatever reason..
i do agree with you though... it is damn close to over (and not the buyback)
i just want people to know the truth dude... alot of people lost alot of money here and a lot more people can still do the same... why should honest people lose their money from not knowing all the facts and why should ihub be a completely pro msg board promoting it?