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Good explaination!
Haha! That is funny. Good call! I sold my BE shares in February around 11.94 to have some dry powder for FCEL.
My youngest son owns a Harley spin off ( I am not knowledgable of motorcycles hence do not remember the name of the bike). He looks the stereotypical bad boy biker, haha! Flaming red beard, 280lbs, fun loving, but don't mess with him except in jest, kind of guy.
Good to have goals.
I like your latest summation. A lot of hidden value. Have you knowledge ( in simple lay terms) how to put a value on a patent?
I remember you talking about the Harley then. Ya, I only looked back today because all the negative rhetoric today sounded like 2019. Sure enough its exactly the same negativity. And you were spot on about FCEL going up. And you were saying it fervently. One of the few optimistic voices.
FCEL since 2019 is up 400% from 0.17 cents. Shorts will cover soon. I am thinking of a motor home.
I am not fluent in word salad, could you please repeat that only a little slower?
A walk down memory lane puts today in perspective. I removed the online name. This post ( April 2019) is typical of those at the time. The circumstances (I am sure you recall) were dire. Much has changed since then but there are still "hair on fire, doom and gloom posters today as then. Remember this post is five years ago. It was a more rational post.
"Re: None
Saturday, 03/16/2019 6:40:04 PM
This is getting to be very volatile and expect to see where the shorts may take this down if they believe that Fuel Cell defaults of some sort in a payment . Shorts can get greedy and take $FCEL to around $.17 then it’s a 150% gain to $.50+!in a few days for sure we get some news in the next 30 days or so . Then the voting goes against more volatility and I don’t know how Wall Street is going to react but it seems that obviously the PPS is telling us now anything can happen ."
And back then there was some serious
bankruptcy concerns. And plenty to worry about. Not at all like now. I was once told by an economics professor that any new news is instantly known and available. Hence the saying "no news is good news". We will know soon who understands what is at play here. I am optimistic for longs. The post was around 50000 posts ago! # 9560 and on up or thereabouts
I agree. Recurring income is still ongoing, and no negative news. The physical infrastructure and manufacturing is ongoing and didn't just disappear. Patents still there. And if they are selling shares it means they are saving cash. The last I checked, there was enough cash for at least a year.
I believe the people buying are smart people.
The dominoes are all being set up, and the music is playing. Just like dominoes it will only take one to fall and all the shorts are scrambling.
Each day the shorties having more difficulty.
If they try to lower the price any further it triggers massive short squeeze!
BlackRock changing its stake is 5 months old news.
I agree and I think they have customers lined up. Nice post!
Making a list. We have several waste treatment plants nearby. Do not know how much biogas they emit or whether it is worth enough to capture.
My first question though is why did I get an invitation? The contact e-mail implied knowledge of my company industry which is not a fit for Fuel Cell Energy. Not that it matters. Also, I retired and ended the company.
I am interested to see if I get a response to their query after filling out the request form.
History is amazing. Forty thousand posts ago, one poster in early 2019 posted
"Purchased 20k shares premarket at $.249 this am. Speaking on deaf ears I have backed off."
One year later the share price was $1.95.
Just shy of two years later the price was $28.00 Now that is prescient.
I keep hearing something about next stop $0.50. Sing song cicadas, monotonous.
I saw your post earlier this week regarding AI. It is a good question. If I may comment.
If the way that AI writes its own news is an indication of its success, I am not impressed. I do believe that with regard to marketing it poses a risk by collection of personal data. I am sure that in brokerages the speedy processing of information offers a benefit.
I think short selling is becoming pretty risky with FCEL. Close to earnings, likely to beat expectations. Will see after lunch whether shorties have any more risk taking left in their tank. Haha bring it on!
I think short selling is becoming pretty risky with FCEL. Close to earnings, likely to beat expectations. Will see after lunch whether shorties have any more risk taking left in their tank. Haha bring it on!
I received an e-mail from FCEL wanting to know if I am interested in fuel cell technology for my small business. I am responding to see if they would be interested in putting in a sales pitch to our local government for a biogas project.
0.95 gets us closer to 50 day moving average.
Ya my hybrid battery 10 yr warranty expires after this year. Lucky there are no signs it is failing. Wait till all that lithium gets into the water.
I apologize. I do some devil's advocacy at times to parse out who is who and who is BS. That may be unclear when posting.
who can fathom it? I try not to waste time wondering why.
I do.
I also know who is full of it. You are not, I repeat, not in that camp. No one who is just fooling around would be as prolific for the amount of time that you have been posting here and other boards. No one fooling around would be so thorough. I sometimes swat at the windmills as one post suggested. I am confident we all have. I imagine you have too. But that is how we learn.
There are also times when I post and realize my meaning didn't come across like I had planned. Or I read other peoples posts and wonder if their meaning is clear. Its the nature of communicating with one of the most deficient means of communicating there is. Texting gives no visual clues, no tone of voice clues, no body language clues, and it takes a lot of time to clarify messages if the message isn't clear.
My message is clear. I am all in. And yes there are some true characters here, mosquitos.
Now that's what I'm talking about!
Good advice about patience. And waiting for the bottom. I am not always very patient and I am not good looking at charts. I understand what you are saying.
To me, without some formula to predict a bottom, unless the bottom is in sight, ie, zero, I think that the odds of the bottom being near (or bankruptcy) have to be pretty high as the price nears zero. In the case of FCEL, I don't see any signs of bankruptcy so being near the bottom makes more sense. Therefore I buy. I admit there is no sophistication here.
With regard to doubling, I am doing the easy math by accepting $1.57 as "analysts" predict as a near future price and seeing 0.74 doubled meets that prediction more or less.
I appreciate the advice.
Well, I have to agree there is a lot not to like. No one here likes to lose money. The dilution is scary, as is the share price and threat of delisting to name a few. Makes me wonder why I didn't buy Chipotle at $600/share.
I do see a lot to like however. The price for one. Allows me to buy in with a near term upside potential double. Analysts are seeing near term $1.57 in their calculations. So to me 0.74 is a gift. Several analysts talk of an earnings surprise this quarter. I believe that because we have revenue to record from the previous quarter that didn't make it in last quarter's report.
CCS and H2 is not a fad. It is super real and here to stay.
Although high school kids experiment with H2 production in labs all the time, FCEL is pulling together all the practical aspects of scaling up to massive production without going bankrupt. Not an easy feat for any small cap company.
My eyes at times will not even focus from trying to keep up with all the reading. Hell I am at least 600 pages of current reading behind. But what I do see here, on this board, is there are enough people who believe in FCEL who keep feeding the info so I am relieved of having to search for it all by myself. Yes, I have been up the hill to $29 and back down again to 0.74. Its spooky. But many of the same longs are still here from $0.13 cents before the run who are ready to do it again. This time it may be a little slower rise but a more permanent high. Good luck to you, sincerely.
Haha if I could explain it I would. Thank you for your thoughts. I plan on buying, each day, if cheaper than the day before, until earnings.
You seem to have done well with FCEL , going up and down. Why then do you seem so negative toward it?
Is that what is happening here? If we are trading 40-60 million shares a day it implies that someone is buying, including yours truly, at bargain prices. If institutional investors are not buying it seems retail investors are. If retailers hold wouldn't that help drive up the price?
I did too! All longs hold!
Do you know much about poison pill defense to hostile takeover using diluted shares? Does the tactic include registered shares that are not yet sold?
Hog, I think your facetiousness was a little too much for the bashers to comprehend.
Try saying " FCEL is worth much more than $10 a share. The run up to $29 proved that. Jason Few cares about the company way more than a couple of bashers. And he will not let FCEL be bamboozled by Exxon."
"Exxon can’t even be bothered to renew fcel’s contract…and hasn’t for years…that should tell you what Exxon thinks about fcel…"
And that is why they are paying FCEL for Rotterdam?
I don't know whether to tremble or laugh 😂
"but at some point fcel will be good for trading again"
In case you haven't noticed FCEL has been traded for years. It is trading now.
"But the bottom line is that a stock that has run from 29 bucks to 76 cents over the last 4 yrs has proven itself,"
But you leave out the fact that this stock went from 0.13 cents to $29. Do some due diligence. How did it get to $29? And if you shorted it on the way down, kudos. All similar stocks went down with the Fed tightening of interest rates. And their graphs are almost identical.
Sorry you got burned by your fabulous trading skills, really.
But I'm pretty sure you aren't flush with cash from all your trading prowess just to spend your days idyllically posting negatively here and foregoing other of life's pleasures.
Buying and holding is a defense against shorting. When shorts are forced to cover their borrowed shares the price goes up. Big short squeeze coming.
Hopey posts: "It takes discipline and respect for the market signals to profit from a purchase. That's basic among intelligent investors."
And how many shares do you own? So exactly how are you making a profit without a purchase? Smart
South Korea would benefit from using Tri-gen in their shipyards. Steel manufactures are so heavily energy intensive. No oil reserves in SK. I would believe they have biogas.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_in_South_Korea
Look at last paragraph before "History"
igotthemojos posted
"...i dont think this needs to be explained further, but for the sake of clarity ill add that most investors want to make money, not lose it... "
And that is why you are spending all your time on a board for a company you say is ill suited to investors? Smart.
There seems to be a hint of further collaboration suggested between FCEL and Toyota. Biogas equals Trigen which equals Hydrogen, water, heat and decreased pollution. A win for everyone!
1.8 Trillion vs 100 billion. Some big numbers but when spread over 20 or so years looks manageable. I forget, how many zeros in a trillion?
Depends on which broker the shares are borrowed from and a very good point. It costs shorts money to borrow shares from brokers. Plus the shares borrowed from the broker have to be given back. If the stock price goes up the short borrower can end up paying much more for the stock than the borrowing price. They can incur unlimited losses if done improperly.
Do you notice how bashers can't say that cash on hand dropped today because the stock is down 0.02 cents. Just like they can't say cash on hand increased today because the stock price is up 0.02 cents.
Or better yet they cannot say "Parts of the Torrington Facility actually vanished today because the stock price dropped but we expect it to reappear when the stock is up 0.02 cents on the next dead cat bounce along with hundreds of thousands in cash." They conflate different aspects of business to things not real.
Bashers love to conflate facts to spread fear. Stock price is not cash on hand, or buildings, or factories or workers. Stock is a representation of the value of the company to the holder. No two holders have the same perceived value for the same stock. Bashers however like to belittle your belief in your value assessment and bend it to theirs. And they offer no facts, no articles from reputable sources. They use fear. I am not afraid of the facts of FCEL. I will buy more as I can. I am still waiting for the promised $0.50 cents a share.