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The stock is trading at .13 today. Do you honestly think if the company had a book value over even $1 that it would trade this long under .20? Please.
If anyone, including Rufus, Mike Alexander or Petar truly knew 100% they had the assets they claimed and book value they claimed this stock would be trading for dollars, not pennies. They would have every banker in South America, Europe or any important rich friend they claim they have buying every share. Even if the SEC shut down trading, the stockholders would still own the company and the assets. Even if they had to buy every single share and take the company private they would do it.
Would you pay .50 a share and buy every share of a company that could be liquidated for $15 a share? Come on... Are you telling me that they couldn't make a call to Warren Buffet to buy the company and take it private or liquidate it?
The reason nobody is paying over .16 a share today is because it's all a load of crap!
LP640 Lastest HSM BSer:
Will the crap every stop dripping down their legs? LP even uses orange letters to make himself sound more knowledgable and he tried to give people the impression that he is in the in group and knows what is really going on behind the scenes.
If you sell the bonds and have the cash, cash is part of book value. If you can get billions in cash, nothing would be able to stop the stock price from shooting up. If CSHD could sell the bonds it would create a huge short squeeze, if there are even any true shorts left.
LP, you believe Rufus is doing this to change the world and make it a better place? You believe Rufus is protecting shareholders and risking all for shareholders just because he is a good guy? May I puke now?
LP, I request you stop making up stories.
Originally Posted by LP640
there are things that are uncontrollable like the sec halt. you have to understand that with us recieving the tpr other people are affected as well. we get rewarded and they well they'll be broke. you have to see that what rufus is doing is to benefit the market in general. nss is a pervasive problem that affects more families than you can begin to realize. what he is doing is making things transparent to protect us. it is for thegreatergood. that is why he wanted a formal investigation. he has learned his mistakes in the past dealing with this mess. yes his stubborness is what is causing the delays, but you have to understand that the sec wants to take away our assets. this includes the short squeeze. if we sell the bonds like they want us to, then how will we fund our business? where is our book value? if there's no book value no squeeze.
i understand people are hurting right now due to the delays, and i know rufus feels for us, but it will take time to resolve these issues and negotiate a deal that will imo benefit both sides. the market is changing. new platforms are being materialzed and and in time cshd will be trading there. imo soon the market will have to adopt new rules to participate in a globalized market. we just have to wait it out. no point in selling now unless you really need the money. imo if you sell you are still covered by the 6:1. even if this company goes down there's enough evidence to bring the rico act into play and get your money back. we have been a victim of fraud, and rufus is helping us to stop it whether you like it or not how he is doing it is up to you.
I think she may have been someone who thought she had inside connections from being an early investor, but I am a fairly intuitive person and I think she was sincere for the most part.
Oh believe that people have done much crazier things in regard to this stock and are in much more worse situations than this woman as a result of Rufus' promise.
I can't figure you out. I really get the idea that you're someone close to being an insider. I do not believe I have ever given anyone reason to think I am out to fool or cause damage to anyone. I have always been very truthful.
Is Rufus promising that the cards are issued already scratched off and that they are worth $15 for every $1 value printed on the front?
Some idiot called in to that MN1 interview saying that what Rufus was doing rocked and that he and Ben should run for President and Vice President. Rufus said they were already considering it and are currently in discussions about it.
Her husband died of a stroke two years ago and she put 18K dollars she didn't have into the stock as a result of Rufus' promise to her. He even promised it again right on the interview "right in front of the world" in his own words. It was bold statements like this that made people believe enough to risk their homes and their families.
This is SICK. F'ING sick bastards disgust me that do this crap to people.
You MUST listen to this MN1 interview even if you have already heard it.
Here is an MN1 interview where Rufus and Ben are promising $15 a share to investors by the end of July. Texas Princess calls in and talks about her loan against her house and how she was using her property tax money and how she lost her husband and Rufus still promised her she was getting the $15 in like a week's time.
This PISSES me off. Any truly God fearing man would have told her not to use money like that when she could end up losing her house.
Guys you really have to listen to this crap. It's unbelievable.
http://www.mn1.com/mp3/FHAL_PART_2.mp3
http://www.mn1.com/members/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=165
http://www.mn1.com/members/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=166
Haha, what are you talking about?
Why shouldn't Don resign. His work was done. He and Paul successfully ran off most of the level-headed people so that they could run a pump and dump thread with no interference. Game is over, Don won.
Avaritia: He may have fallen victim to at least one of the seven deadly sins.
You don't lose if you don't sell. (cough cough - bullcrap) The guy who made up that line needs to be kicked in the balls. It's all real money and believe me if it doesn't show in your stock account, you sure as hell lost it. You might get it back, but for now it's gone.
Profit shares are bullcrap too. If you rode profit shares down, you lost money. Maybe you did not lose your initial investment, but you lost your money. It was money you had and now it's gone. You could have bought Christmas presents, a car, a house, who knows what with it.
The first thing you need to realize is that it's real money. It's hell of real. Once you realize that you might treat it as such.
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Thank you iHub for allowing someone as animated and passionate as me to post on your web site. I realize I get a little too emotional and personal at times and I apologize for that, but I am appreciative that I was given the right to free speech on this thread.
I hope that justice prevails and that those who have taken any part in deceiving others for their own financial gain will be punished to the full extent of what they deserve. It may take time, but what goes around surely comes around.
I hope all the scammers take time to reflect upon how many families they have caused hardship to this holiday season and all the children and grandchildren who will also be effected by your wickedness. May God show mercy if you repent.
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The sad thing is that there is one at every turn. This one just got more attention that most.
.12 LOAD THE TRUCK (Sarcasm) - if you liked it at .15, you're going to love it at .12.
Call CNBC if you want the truth.
Simon on SubPennyRadio warned investors. He would have saved you guys a heck of a lot of money if you had listened to him. He told you guys weeks/months ago this was headed down.
He's not perfect or 100% accurate, but he knows more than most and is very good at calling the direction of penny stocks.
Good luck going forward.
No Trades: Are the sheep out of money today? Probably just the Christmas shopping putting a dent in the CSHD buying.
Let's not forget what a great company this is though. This company has done so many wonderful things that deserve our confidence. (sarcasm)
Let's see, they pumped the stock up to $4. Other than that, what the hell did they do?
OT: Tell Dr. Worm he is going to lose money buying calls on the QQQQ. I tried to tell him we are early stages of a down trend. Double top formed and most likely heading down 10% from here.
Edited: I am sick of accusations. I am exactly what I say I am. I do NOT like scum sucking criminals and I will post anywhere I choose until I am banned. It is our obligation to stand for justice and honesty and to fight criminal scum with a passion.
Thanks for the chart. You are right. Most indicators are negative so let's watch for support. If you care about your money, this is a time to be alert to TA.
Thank you. That was my first guess. Some companies manufacture things like the flash devices and you can have any company name you want stamped on them. I know of some companies that put their own names on similar devices and then give them away to big clients for advertising purposes.
I am curious exactly what patented product they add.
Are you trying to find out what I am wondering? Does this company manufacture their own patended products or are these products manufactured by another company that allows any company to sell the same product under their own name?
One last question and then I will start doing my own research. Do they manufacture these products or do they pay another company to stamp their name on products that are manufactured by another company?
OT: Very cool to know. Thank you. I used a random number trying to give them the benefit of the doubt that they would at least spend that much. I really didn't know the market price.
OT: Person who PMed me.
I'll keep an eye on it. You might be surprised that there is justice in the world if you're patient enough to wait on it.
Let's hope so. I am really fed up with dishonesty in the penny market. I'd hate to have a new stock to track just when I was getting my life back.
By the way, where can I go in Dallas to check out this product suite? If I can look at their products and they show promise, I'll be investing here.
Thanks.
Holy cow. Please tell me you are joking. I live in Dallas. Are you telling me I can get a spot on CNBC for $25? Time Warner?
New to this stock. Quick question. Very nice looking products. Who carries these products? I live in Dallas. Is there any place in Dallas I can go take a look at their product suite?
TIA
Haha yes, that would help. Suppose they are advertising in the smallest market available in Po Dunkville, New Mexico for like $5,000 for a spot and then they release a PR stating that they are on CNBC. Sure, it would be a true PR, but very misleading.
OT: Much appreciated. If you own the stock and then you delete information that is negative in any way and look for ways to justify those deletes, it's a good way to get some attention for yourself.
You need to find out if it's a local or national commercial. Most programs offer local advertising space where each local provider can insert a local ad over the national ad.
It is quite possible that a company could adverstise on CNBC only for one particular city area.
OT: Did you delete posts that were negative or positive on the company?
Probably didn't loose any money on this either.
Remember, I'm a TuRD. I never took a dime from anyone or made a penny off anything related to CSHD, but somehow I'm a TuRD. I find that odd, but I would expect that kind of attack from someone trying to scam people out of money, so fess up Lesnshawn, what is your motive?
There is nothing humble about an opinion where you blame people on a message board for the actions of criminal low-life scum.
Are you serious? Surely you do not think that bashers have anything to do with bonds being real or SEC investigations or anything else for that matter.
I can't figure it.
If I lost a lot of money, I would be getting an attorney and not wasting my time posting on a message board. Anyone posting here in defense of a company that has ripped off millions of dollars from honest and trusting people must have something personal at stake.
Oh, they know they got scammed. The only question they have is was it the SEC or Rufus or Sabra or Mike or Ben or AJW partners or the Boogie Man?
Question for long CSHD traders:
Have you tried to buy and sell at this level? I know who will sell to you. Mike or AJW partners or someone with warrants or free shares will sell you all the shares you want. I would imagine that most of the shorts are being covered with free shares too, so who will buy your shares?
Have you tried a test to buy and then sell to see if you can sell any?
Thanks in advance. I am very curious what the market is like for this stock right now.