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N Korea threat is directly tied to US.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/2887097.stm
jbennett53.. <surprised at the resistance>
Why??? Don't tell me you fell for Bush's sale pitch too? Don't you find it ironic that the day the war began, he began singing a different tune about the possible length of war?
Meanwhile, N Korea tension is getting worse. NK is now threatening to attack Japan and no one in US is paying attention. US media doesn't bother to inform the American public.
US WILL LOSE
THE IRAQ WAR
http://www.gulufuture.com/news/scott_ritter030325.htm
FWIW, INTU just broke the neckline of the weekly H&S, with target of 25.
If we blow thru the upper down TL since Dec top with more volume, watchout bears!! Potential bullflag on the weeklies could take us up another 400/413 pts on the COMP..
http://www.ttrader.com/mycharts/charts/heehee1/bull%20flag.JPG
Federal reserves... Someone else shares the same sentiment, on a grander scale.
<S&P 500 Waterfall Imminent>
http://www.zealllc.com/2003/waterfall.htm
Zeev.. I think Gold/defense sector have priced in a war too early on. Now they're pricing in a short lived war, and once war commences, they'll start pricing in a possible longer than expected war scenario, thus giving boost to the sectors once again.. <VBG>
This could halt the war rally..
U.N.'s Six Undecideds Offer Iraq 45-Day Ultimatum
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=574&ncid=721&e=1&u=/nm/20030311/wl_....
Reminiscent of the Chinese government's response to Tianneman Square protestors.
Here in San Diego, regular is $2.00, I pay 2.20 for my premium.
OT Augie. here is a friend for Augieboo to play with
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/englishmastiff/vwp?.dir=/&.src=gr&.dnm=Masked+Max.jpg&a....
That's how I feel about INTU and QLGC.
We entered WWII because we were attacked by Japan who sided with Hitler... And in that, it was a just cause.
Since then we've meddled into other sovereignties enforcing our policies without justifications. Vietnam, Chile, Nigaragua, Guatamala, Panama, Haiti, Phillipines ,Iran/Iraq, to name a few...
But you probably think it was perfectly all right for us to go over to Chile, assinated their Democratic elected president Allende and implant our own puppeteer leaders.. The latest is in S America, we attempted to oust Chavez and failed. Of course you righties don't see this as meddling...
<BRCM at 6>
Actually, I've a target of 5ish for that thing sometime this year... Maybe even a zeroer if not a NT lookalike. Lots of debt, little cash in a no growth scenario is a recipe for disaster... Many of those around these days.
I've been playing BRCM since its IPO days. Was short today with it, but bailed at close flat for fear of INTC spintale. I guess I should have held.
Profit guy.. <dissing this country>
I think you've missed the point completely.. Its SHRUB da head cheif and his gang we're dissing. NOT AMERICA!! I'm not proud of having an idiotic dry drunk born again Christian shoving his religious fundamentals down my throat, meanwhile shredding apart the Constitutions all the while chanting "for the sakes of preserving Freedom"
I am proud to be an American, but there are a lot of things America has done that American should not be proud of ... We gave Saddam WMD in the Iran/Iraq war now he's the most dangerous man in the world.. CIA trained Osama and aided his cause during the Afghani/Russia fight. We supported Noriega to over throw his opponent only to arrest him later when we couldn't control him.. The above mentioned men became great liabilities now... WHy can't we just stay out of other people's business?
<do you spit a war vets>
If you do your research, many gulf war vets who had gulf war syndrome were ignored and denied of proper medical treatment years after they served... So who is spitting who?
Those penguins are going to hell...
Dream on...
Nat Hentoff
Big John Wants Your Reading List
Has the Attorney General Been Reading Franz Kafka?
February 22nd, 2002 5:00 PM
uring the congressional debate on John Ashcroft's USA Patriot Act, an American Civil Liberties Union fact sheet on the bill's assaults on the Bill of Rights revealed that Section 215 of the act "would grant FBI agents across the country breathtaking authority to obtain an order from the FISA [Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act] court . . . requiring any person or business to produce any books, records, documents, or items."
This is now the law, and as I wrote last week, the FBI, armed with a warrant or subpoena from the FISA court, can demand from bookstores and libraries the names of books bought or borrowed by anyone suspected of involvement in "international terrorism" or "clandestine activities."
Once that information is requested by the FBI, a gag order is automatically imposed, prohibiting the bookstore owners or librarians from disclosing to any other person the fact that they have received an order to produce documents.
You can't call a newspaper or a radio or television station or your representatives in Congress. You can call a lawyer, but since you didn't have any advance warning that the judge was issuing the order, your attorney can't have objected to it in court. He or she will be hearing about it for the first time from you.
I have been told that at least three of these court orders have been served, but that's all the information I was given—not the names of the bookstores or the libraries. And I can't tell you my source.
Courts do infrequently impose gag orders preceding or during trials, and newspapers sometimes successfully fight them. But never in the history of the First Amendment has any suppression of speech been so sweeping and difficult to contest as this one by Ashcroft.
For example, if a judge places a gag order on the press in a case before the court, the press can print the fact that it's been silenced, and the public will know about it.
But now, under this provision of the USA Patriot Act, how does one track what's going on? How many bookstores and libraries will have their records seized? Are any of them bookstores or libraries that you frequent? Are these court orders part of FBI fishing expeditions, like Ashcroft's mass roundups of immigrants?
And if the FBI deepens its concerns about terrorist leanings after inspecting a suspect's reading list, how can everyone else know what books will make the FBI worry about us?
As one First Amendment lawyer said to me, "What makes this so chilling is that there is no input into the process." First there is the secrecy in which the subpoenas are obtained—with only the FBI present in court. Then then there is the gag order commanding the persons receiving the subpoenas to remain silent.
Has John Ashcroft been reading Franz Kafka lately?
As I often do when Americans' freedom to read is imperiled, I called Judith Krug, director of the Office for Intellectual Freedom of the American Library Association. I've covered, as a reporter, many cases of library censorship, and almost invariably, the beleaguered librarians have already been on the phone to Judy Krug. She is the very incarnation of the author of the First Amendment, James Madison.
When some librarians—because of community pressure or their own political views, right or left—have wanted to keep books or other material from readers, Judy has fought them. She is also the leading opponent of any attempt to curb the use of the Internet in public libraries.
As she has often said, "How can anyone involved with libraries stand up and say, 'We are going to solve problems by withholding information'?"
I called to talk with her about the FBI's new power to force libraries to disclose the titles of books that certain people are reading—and she, of course, knew all about this part of the USA Patriot Act. And the rest of it, for that matter.
She told me how any library can ask for help—without breaking the gag order and revealing a FISA visit from the FBI. The librarian can simply call her at the American Library Association in Chicago and say, "I need to talk to a lawyer," and Judy will tell her or him how to contact a First Amendment attorney.
The reason the president and the attorney general have so far been able to trade civil liberties for security is they know from the polls that they can count on extensive support. Most Americans are indeed willing to forgo parts of the Bill of Rights for safety.
Only by getting more and more Americans to realize that they themselves—not just noncitizens—can be affected by these amputations of the Bill of Rights will there be a critical mass of resistance to what Ashcroft and Bush are doing to our liberties.
Accordingly, the press ought to awaken the citizenry not only to the FBI's harvesting lists of what "suspect" Americans read, but also to the judicial silencing of bookstores and libraries that are being compelled to betray the privacy and First Amendment rights of readers.
I would welcome any advice from civil liberties lawyers on ways to counter both this provision of the USA Patriot Act and the gag order, which is the sort of silencing you'd expect of China or Iraq. Remember the repeated assurances by the president, the attorney general, and the secretary of defense that any security measures taken in the war on terrorism would be within the bounds of the Constitution?
Whose Constitution?
George Orwell said: "If large numbers of people believe in freedom of speech, there will be freedom of speech even if the law forbids it. But if public opinion is sluggish, inconvenient minorities will be persecuted, even if laws exist to protect them."
Today, the public doesn't even know about this provision in the strangely titled USA Patriot Act. A lot of people are still afraid to get on a plane. Is Ashcroft fearful that if people find out about his interest in what they're reading, they'll be afraid to go to libraries and bookstores—and will start asking questions about what the hell he thinks he's doing? And where is Congress?
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http://216.239.39.100/search?q=cache:ba2fnL2hQo4C:www.villagevoice.com/issues/0209/hentoff.php+patri...
integrivest.. <lefty crap>
Really integrivest, is that really neccessary? I'll refrain myself from saying what I really think about your ***T.
Richard.. I see Sly already found the article I was looking for.
<There was no peace treaty, only a cease fire which was conditional on Iraq's abiding by the terms of Resolution 687>
You forgot to add UN (Resolution 687). Last I checked, UN is acronym for UNITED NATIONS, not United States of America..
Legally, ethically, morally and financially, invasion of Iraq is WRONG.
Zeev...Exceptional call on the Naz!!! How do you do it?
Whew!!! <GGG>
<playing god than invitro>
Good...Since I don't believe in god, you convinced me. Now convince the religious zealots. uhhh..... good luck.
<why not Israel, NKorea>
I hope you're being faceteous. I don't prescribe to any invasion.
Violence begets violence.
Hate begets hate.
<the embryo creations only go to the 16 cell stage>
Interesting.. Tanks for the info.
Maine... I believe in difference shades of gray, but scheesh, you're giving hues... LOL
But since your scenario precisely indicate to the 16 cell stage, I condone. Having said that though, the variations of shades/hues of gray, may be hard to gain public's approval; even in the eyes of moderates. JMO
<I think the legal justification may be there.>
Actually, no... International law prohibits invasion of another nation without an imminent threat. There is no real evidence Iraq is an imminent threat.
I think you are referring to Iraq's violation of UN resolution 1441. Based on that, an attack MAY be justified, provided its WITH UN SUPPORT .
Richard..
The moral argument against human cloning is religion based I think. To create human life is to play god...
Although I'm agnostic, I too don't think we should be tampering with human cloning. Too many uncertainties.
As for an alternative solution to having children, there are already provened solutions for that. Invitro, surrogacy.
The War against the Taliban/Al Quaeda was justified. Preemptive invasion of Iraq is not.
Renshen1..
I was referring to his extremist religious fervor. In that he is no different.
America, be afraid... be very afraid of this man called BUSH Jr. He is no different than the Islamic fundamentalists. The terror is, he HAS the largest WMD arsenal in the world.
God indeed help us all.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/878520.asp
http://www.msnbc.com/news/879509.asp?0bl=-0
< God does not contradict Himself.>
I agree. If there is a GOD, he would not.. Man, on the other hand, does quite often to justify his actions, and then claim it is GOD's will.
<10,000 yrs from now it's not likely to change too much>
Not sure we'll be here for another 10,000 yrs. We'll kill each other off by then... and hide our crimes in God's name.
Maine... I too find that statement disturbing. After 10,000 yrs. have we really progressed much in humanity?
<Where does it say in our constitution that we abide by the UN security counsel vote on matters of defense?>
You seem to have little knowledge or on international law.. Perhaps you should do some reading before retorting an ignorant response like that.
defense does not mean attack/invasion...
Jbennet.. Thank you for posting that.
Kiesling is obviously a man of principles and integrity.
Jar..
Your link from post 3532 still does not answer my question. How do you know the words written in the NT is all that Jesus preached. You don't.
BTW, thanks for the link, I was trying to remember the name of the Papyrus discovered in Egypt. It pertains to my post 7946)
Re: discovery of the Rylands Papyrus in Egypt, there was information in that early scripture that was excluded in the current NT. As I've mentioned in my post 7946, King Plotemy (II?) of Alexandria edited some parts of the John's original scripture deleting certain portions as he deemed fit. From what I understand, the current NT is Plotemy's edited version . Is that not tampering?
If this information is incorrect, feel free to post link to support otherwise.
Jar...<according to his written word.>
I thought his disciples wrote the New Testament. And as I understand, their works were tampered with by men during the past of time. So how do you know the content of the New Testament were all Jesus' words?
Maine...
I'll answer for them... Its OK to commit murders, just as long as GOD is on your side. And in case it isn't, you can go to confession, repent your sins and you're cleared. Very just judicial system don't you think?
<Buddha is a false teacher. I don't know that he prophesied anything>
So in order to qualify as a prophet you have to be a Madame Cleo?
I predict we all are going to die. I predict the markets will go up and down..
Am I a prophet? YUP I AM...
Buddha's teachings NEVER encourage killing..Any killing, even down to the little earthworms. You call that false teaching? I think it is you and your likes who are false.