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I can not agree with a statrment which indites the falseness of another statement....Re-CSCS ...I see no facts on both sides of the equasion....Disgruntled about giving away work to a third party re 2017. Vinmar...According to operations plant in mint oprrating condition...We have top technologists from inception. 10 years later problems arise as the market intensifies, mitsui walks and immediately becomes our competion....
Big Bucks....Vinmar in competition with Mitsui...Vinmar has yet too fufill contracts. WHY?
The evaluation of the company. Not including the final impairment aquzations
Wow nice...Which LCY letter?
Conclusion...If we are safe, GREAT!!!! Otherwise we have given PWC a heads up on our knowledge using a public board. Not smart buisness!!!
If there is fraud this has to take of this now....No to hold up in 5 yesrs of court
Please, any examples of fraud....
If documents are exact....Then we must consider the comma after BioAmber, inc....BioAmber comma inc is a westgate BIOAMBER branch....The Spelling should be in capitals..It is not....So in which way do we make our assumption...BioAmber with a capital, A, is Also a different Bioamber....Considering in the Monitors report, only Ontario, Quebec & US assets Monitors Report.
Bioamber did not outright own anything without a lien prior to Bankruptcy, other than 2 IPs. Everything they owned or deemed to own was used as collateral for loans. Once they paid off the agreements they reborrowed against them again. Agreements liens collateral Licenses Royalties...etc
Looks like Societe en commandite douze cinquante Langlois Lawyers Looking for the Rent Bioamber Canada.....Cargill... They owe Cargill big Money seems like the game is changing... How to move the licenses legally illegally, by going into debt with the Company cancelling licences insteD of transferring them for a price...INGREDION CORP. Same building as the Lawyer BLG..
The word Company during the process can not hold a monotary value unless it is a value less than the debt....Otherwise we are not debt ridden. Any deal will be after CCAA. At this point we risk being delisted, wait, we have been deliated from NYSE..VINMAR contracts should have taken the inventory. Mitsui whom was an owner and is involved with 100 companies should have taken the order....They have set this up..Now they want the NOLs another setup as to reason to flush us out.....We need to hold on. But the money will not come from the Nols.....Our team work will put their entire game in jeopardy....I think the Faucet Lawyer they talk about has them confused with his awkward ways...Looks like games...Along side delisio trustee...
I hope they do not use the term whole company. They are now in obligation to let us know uf we are of any value, they have said we are of no value in any way....They will be liable.. We were not sold in whole. The deal is after the CCAA.. If they use the term now as to value then we are worthless in CCAA. There is a divided line with that term....We are of no value in CCAA the company in whole is something different that will happen after....They had their deal. There wording is misconspicuous....
This stock is 100% worth 1000 times its present value....How much did Vinmar pay the executives to tank the company in order to get the New Products offered and get out of the deal.....Too much money to be made for a restructure....To whom the .."BELL NOLs" is gravy...DSM ROQUETTE.. SIDE BY SIDE PLAY WITH GRAND DADDY DNP
Not even close...Bioamber 2017 disbursed over $12 million dollars in administrative expenses....How about $35 million in 6 years. Awhile declared revenue over the same 6 years was less than $35 milllion...They ran this company like it was free money...Bioamber Canada, who??? Where are those checks....I think we need to chat with the insiders to know....
If this is the case, Bioamber lieing to the world. How great the is succinic Acid...Product in the warehouse to devalue Company Value... NOW I SEE A DIFFRRENT STORY....THEY WANT US TO BE WORTHLESS....Wow!!
Very confusing.. Bioamber Canada there are two. One of them Federal, the other provincial Corporation....Bioamber Sarnia closed its France corp after the sale.....Bioamber Sarl holds the Patent Bio-SA......Many IPs of Bioamber were used as Colateral.......As well as the Land and the Building. Buoamber Inc has Nothing to Gain with the set up....Looking at this as a Buisness view point...We did an excellent Job picking up shares today. Was a good deal in the am.....Reading Sec reports and company documents. One article writes. Only way share holders make money is if the shares rise....Was the deal at arms length. We need the Comerica contract
Absolutely true..What will be left over after they pay the debt.....NOLs carry a nice figure, cover the debt.....Balance accoring to nexant 1.64 so we can get anywhere from 1.54 to 1.74 less debt...Then they can call FINRA
Correct...Final outcome.I agree. Shares cancelled They will take it private....Shares gone....I want $1.00 for mine...Many will agree....If they want licenses, thats a timing issue, but the NOLs are not free
PWC is telling us all sales translated to english. Just a d-note telling us its the French order of Sale...There is nothing till after CCAA.
Ok . Thank you. I found the french version. Quebec court system monitor translates all documents from french to english.... USA, Ontario english. Quebec french.. Sales orders in the Quebec courts...
Please explain thank you. We know the French sales order refers to Quebec. If not please explain otherwise.. What are they selling in quebec. What is owned or operated in Quebec.. Thank you... French is also france. Court case french Court in Quebec...
There are 22 inter related Bioambers. Six Sinovens, Two Amberworks....They have 80 Customers according to reports deliver to 19 Countries. BioAmber IP are not owned by Sarnia and Bio-SA is not owned by BIOAQ....They have scalped us....Now they want our Shares.....
Never!!!! They want the Nols and the ticker alive....They do not want the SHAREHOLDERS. LCY can not pay us more than a certsin price, if they pay too much the that woyld trll the courts that the company had a banksble asset and CCAA should have never been..thry owe 40 million Nols 70 million....Agreements???? IP value licenses tie ins....If they find us out we are toast....If they pay us we certainly can see a nickel if not dime.... So if they get the price up to a buc, dilute...Hm would they not need a shareholders meeting to do it
Seems like PWC is reading this board, according to the words they chose
Number 19. What PWC "THINKS" As to the CCAA preceedings. Which could be quite different when the CCAA is over...If the shake our shares and take majority they can then vote, take us out with a vote offer for the 90 day avg keep the company nols Licences Royalties...
Ok so what is left is Bioamber inc...BIOAQ...What value do we have beside the nols, they can pay us 90 days...Even better we keep our lives and they recapitalize put out 250 million more share..we are in for the ride
We will get paid...90 day avg x 3 would be handsome payout at the least....Although 1$ Would be my dream. Bioamber exectives have sung to us since song and their dance since inception. Bioamber executies have been taking big salaries Telling shareholders we are fine, but yet ran the company into the ground....
That would probably be a great s scenerio. Should we get less than fair value.
PWC will take care of it
Sold or are Holding 4 trailer Loads of stock, ready to ship...Paying a warehouse 10 grand for January???? PAY TAKE agreement in play but i think they want the Judge to beleive the story.......Too risky to keep suger sludge idle worth 20 cents a pound they finished up their raw inventory prior to cflosing and are sitting on it....Someone should go talk to an ex employee..Oops the Kerp kept, keeps them silent
I am long. The secured creditors and the Comerica contract agreement.After reading anothers posting, Now I can understand how easily the setteled was settled.. Comerica agent agreement contract was made by the Lenders themselves...Seems like Mitsui & Biomber Lux created an agreement for their own use. For they for saw this day coming..That was one of thhe steps
If your interested to qualify with information. Research Mitsui Bioamber intellectual property...Two weeks after selling their 39% stake in Bioamber what happened..
You must be eating at Mcdonalds...Share price should be 50 cents ..Share as sharing food Share conversation. Your share of the bill.....It does not look like much buyinging...
That makes absolutely no sense....
$4.3 million makes no sense....
Comerica Bank Bioamber Lux group. Co.erica acti g as the agent. Who calls in tbere secured Loan??? Lux....
The 9th monitors report..Number 33. Visolis transaction closed.....Number 32. Cargil reverdia agreements are in limbo, if these can be assigned it would be an add on...The restructure is still going on....Yet Bioamber intellectual property is held by Mitsui only....
Ok....$4.3 million.....
Then the reason to be in our position????
Collect NOLs
Jean Francois Huc has been selling health products with Diversified Natural Products since 2003....DNP split into two groups Health and Technology...In 2010 Diversified was taken over by Thorne Research.....All the same personel links with different company names...DNP GT became Bioamber. Bioamber Jeab Francois Huc Have been in this since 1995 aa well as a link to Applied Carvo xh0emicals as all this waa going on , so was the link to Bio Succinc Acid. Companies constantly change the names as the indormation becomes a maze.
Bioamber ....SOLD...FINAL....We will all profit, considering 10 cents is 10 times what many have paid, More than satisfied ...I am sure ten times our money is a great deal....Even if you bought 20 000 at 2$ Then rebought 400 000 at a penny your still doing good......Lets close this up and go home. Remove Q we can see dollars on NYSE