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WOW!! ...
No offense, investo7, but this is a stinkin' STOCK forum!!! ...I think you have this website confused with "Ehamrony.com".
EPROM
One last note Investo7, ...
You wrote: ""guess after a reply like that I'll just steer clear of this one altogether. Geeeeessssshhhhhh! So much for asking.""
That response from "snow" was aimed at ME ......not you.
EPROM
Investo7 writes: ""your post sounded like something big was coming up on the 24th""
...The best advice I could ever give you is to NEVER SINK $6K into ANYTHING that is told to you on a public stock forum.
NAUG is a high-risk investment. That means you can make a lot of money ...and lose a lot of money. NAUG is a playground for the investor with a set of "balls" ...and for investors who are willing to LOSE them in the process!
EPROM
Investo7 writes: ""OK You have my attention, whats up on the 24th?""
...That would be the following Monday after the NAUG audited financials are released (assuming that the audits are release after 4:00). ...That will be "investor reaction" day.
Investo7 Writes: ""I'm sitting on 6 G's cash right now and I'm lookin for a REAL RUNNER to buy into""
...Are you asking me this because I said "TO THE MOON!". If I definitely knew of a REAL RUNNER I'd be in it right now. NAUG has run "potential" ...but could also easily knock your 6 G's down to 3 G's. before your broadband RTQ can even show it to you.
Investo7 Writes: ""but if this is FOR SURE Taking off and I'm looking at least 30% I'll bite""
...my BRCM "Broadcom" IPO was the closest thing I ever came across as being a "sure thing". Matter of fact, it was a "sure thing" for about a year and a half .....and then reality set in. I was lucky enough to get out in late 2000. Other than that, ...THERE ARE NO SURE THINGS!!!!!
EPROM
mmFats: ""As far as being around on the 24th, if it looks good friday, I may be long. If it looks bad, I will offer you my condolences.""
...Fats get in NOW and you'll be FILTHY RICH on the 24th cuz THIS SUCKER IS GOING TO THE MOON!!!!!
EPROM
P.S. Couldn't leave you for the entire weekend without offering you an official "pump".
mmFats writes: ""All I suggested was that a few days before the release the movement of the stock may/may not give an indication of what's to come.""
...and all I did was give Spike an alternate view. Do you not want Spike to have any alternate views? Why on earth would you not want Spike to hear another point of view???
mmFats writes: ""You seem to get sooooooo worked up over the littlest things lately.""
...If the "deductive reasoning capapbilities" you are demonstrating on ME are any indication of your "deductive reasoning capapbilities" on NAUG ....I'm gonna buy some more NAUG stock!!!
mmFats writes: ""Are you nervous about next week?""
...Not anymore than any other OB investment. ...How's bout YOU?
mmFats writes: ""Please don't lose it, I like having you around.""
...and here I was thinking we probably wouldn't be having YOU around anymore come Monday?
EPROM
Snow (on FUTURE numbers):
Snow writes: ""You seem to forget it will take almost 1 1/2 years before it is known if this company misses its projection for 2006.""
....Aww geeeez! Well let me guess: The antiNaugs are now giving up on bashing the supposed "Audited financials will NEVER happen!" prediction and are NOW moving on to bash the FUTURE earnings predictions?
...is THAT your next bash-step?
So what's it going to be a YEAR from now? ...
antiNaug writes: ""There is NO POSSIBLE WAY NowAuto can maintain this current $18 per share level! Gas is WAY too high!! And their 2007 EPS predictions simply cannot be achieved. ....Sell NOW while you still can!!!!""
EPROM
P.S. You antiNaugs certainly haven't done very well in the "prediction department, ya know?
SpikeWire: ..............
The other side of the coin is that you could also buy NAUG at $3.20 before the release of the audited financials and MAYBE double your initial investment?
NOBODY (yes, not even watchdog11) knows what will happen come next Friday. NAUG will either be good, bad or ugly. ...That is the 100% TRUTH ! Anyone who says anything else is a blatant liar.
So here's what I suggest you do:
(1) Look back on all of the press releases from NWAU and NAUG. Look at where they said they would like to be from over a year ago, see where they ARE right now ...see where they said they SHOULD be come next Friday, and look at where they SAY they will be in 2006.
(2) Look at any NAUG/NWAU press release "timelines" that have been missed and see if the missed timeframe is an important issue or not.
(2) Look at what the projected earnings for 2006 are and where they expect the Navicom/NowAuto business model to be in the next three years. .....Make your investment decision based on whether you think this is all 100% bull$hit ...or if they are truly trying to be a successful business and are doing the very best they can for their shareholders.
My only comment about the antiNaugs:
EVERY SINGLE LEVEL that NAUG has reached along the way, (i.e., the multi-dealership purchases, the GEIV purchase, the Navicom purchase) ...the antiNaugs said they would NEVER be able to do all along the way .......................yet STILL they HAVE! So the antiNaugs have been wrong the entire time from day one.
...Are they going to be WRONG next Friday?
...Will this be the ONE time they will be right?
...Will they be reduced to merely slamming FUTURE earnings predictions because they can no longer slam the audited financials come Monday?
Risk & Reward, my friend!
EPROM
P.S. I am NOT pumping this company. They have made me extremely angry on several occasions, but in fairness, they have also come up with the goods each time when push comes to shove. My personal opinion is that they are "on the level" and that the audited bnumbers will be in-line with their past audits. ....But the truth will ultimately be known on the 21st.
I echo Maddog's comments:
Maddog writes: ""the filing of financials (the actual follow through) is much more important to me than the numbers themself.""
As I have stated before, I can tolerate audited results that are in the 80% range of the unaudited numbers. But as Maddog has most eloquently stated, I TOO am looking forward to closure on this issue. The antiNaugs have exploited the time in-between by playing on the "doubt factor" for far too long.
But after the numbers are in, .....there will be NO DOUBT!
EPROM
watchdog writes: ""Can you explain to me why any of this matters???""
"Conspiracy Theories", ...my fair doggie.
From the very beginning, you and the other antiNaugs concocted up that CrAzY X-Files-type conspiracy'laden "scam theory" about how the purchase of GEIV was used as a clandestine operation for NWAU insiders to unload their stock on the unsuspecting market.
Truth is, Dog, that ANYONE in NWAU management could have scheduled a future sale of their personal shares a LONG TIME AGO and set that sell date for sometime before July 18th, 2005.
......You've even admitted that yourself!
Now, the many Navicom news items, ...the many SUNburst news items, ...the "Auction" news items, ....and even just "saying" that they were wanting to buy a OB company was enough to move NWAU way up to the $1.90 range (since there was no definitive July 18th news item even posted yet).
So tell me, dog, ....Why ...(((WHY))) would the smart, very coy, deviously wicked management team at NWAU go through all of that nasty trouble of ACTUALLY BUYING GEIV, putting out all of those DVDs, investor newsletters and all of the hard work of trying to make all of this happen for 50% less? ...Why go for HALF the profits when all they really had to do was schedule a future sale of their shares and pump up a few news items ...and GET TWICE AS MUCH PROFITS?????
The "Pump-n-dump" method is used ALL THE TIME in pink sheet land. YOU know that!!
So again, ...WHY (((((WHY))))) ...WHY would the street-smart, savvy shysters at NWAU not choose to do it the EASY way and end up selling at $1.90 a share rather than do it the HARD way for a whopping 50% LESS money?
EPROM
P.S. Sorry, dog! but your conspiracy theories simply don't make sense.
arbpro,
Let me understand this correctly:
I answered your question with: ""only if it never does happen. Once it happens, then it's not "bogus" news anymore""
My answer would apply to not to just NWAU, ...but (((ANY))) company who made a press statement stating they would file a form 10 ...or ANY news item about ANY happenings what-so-ever that never comes to fruition!
....so are you DISAGREEING with my answer?
....you STILL think I am WRONG????????
I'm not going to totally "condemn" a company for a news item that doesn't come to its fruition. Things change WAY to fast for that!! Also, that would eliminate 95% of all investment opportunities out there if we all operated by that principle, lil' guy.
EPROM
arbpro,
what part of my answer was not correct? Highlight the words and show them to me.
EPROM
Well, well well!
watchdog writes: ""In order for any "insiders" to sell they must get company approval, annouce a "planned sale" with a brokerage house. The restriction in then lifted for a period of 90 days.""
So your answer is YES!! Scott Miller, or ANYONE ELSE that is an "insider" or a member of the NWAU management team could SELL THEIR SHARES prior to July 18th, 2005 as long as they followed all of the proper SEC steps along the way.
......Is that right, doggy?
EPROM
arbpro writes: ""Does NWAU's 10 PR's stating they will file Form 10 qualify as "bogus news?""
...only if it never does happen. Once it happens, then it's not "bogus" news anymore, ...it's just a poorly-executed news item. It also depends on if there was a definite date or pre-determined deadline associated with the news item.
NOW!!
And as usual, ....I end up answering YOUR questions but you antiNaugs are STILL UNABLE to answer MY questions .......as usual.
You antiNaugs can TRY and dodge my question (because you know where it will lead) ....but the others already know, bud.
EPROM
Watchdog (your data errors):
My original question:
""...so you and your fellow antiNaugs state openly on this stock forum, ...where credibility is paramount, ...that NWAU management AT NO TIME are/were able to sell ANY of the NWAU stock they owned BEFORE the purchase of GEIV (i.e., before July 18th 2005)? NWAU Management in NO WAY could have set a date to sell their shares BEFORE July 18th 2005?""
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watchdog writes: ""Eprom, the reason no one has answered your "question" is because it is not a question. It is a "statement" ..."
...uhhhh, dog? ...See that little question mark thingy at the end of that supposed "statement"? <== look! ...another one!!
watchdog writes: ""So I believe that makes the answer to the “question” you were attempting to ask moot.""
...Look buddy, if you simply can't answer the question, that's fine. "Not knowing" is certainly not a crime! Someone ELSE with better investment knowledge on this situation can then chime in.
EPROM
Watchdog,
Watchdog writes: ""Not that it actually matters, but where did you get this? More privledged statements from the CEO to a poster in a chat room????""
uhhhh, .....since you obviously haven't been keeping up on current events:
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/051013/deth006.html?.v=27
Now, ....do your DD, buddy!
EPROM
Comment on News:
Scott Miller Writes: ""NowAuto has been working very hard on completing these audits over the past few months. We appreciate the patience and understanding of our shareholders while going through a complete 2-year audit on four separate entities.""
THERE! ...Now THAT wasn't so hard, was it? In my opinion, NAUG has now returned to a "normal state" with this simple audit update. That's all I really needed to see to maintain my composure.
EPROM
P.S. Kinda shoots down them thar "Conspiracy Theories", too!
Why Nobody Wants to Answer:
The reason why NONE of the antiNaugs want to answer my VERY SIMPLE stock question (and "choose to abuse") is because they KNOW where I was going with it.
.....and they also know I'm RIGHT!
EPROM
Maddog ("On Topic" Question)
My very SIMPLE question was 100% valid and it relates to the ability of NWAU Management's ability to sell their privately-owned shares before July 18th 2005.
Now the antiNaugs, without one single shred of proof, have professed that this entire NAUG purchase is a scam designed to allow management and key insider individuals to unload their privately-held shares.
Furthermore, I don't understand why the antiNaugs get a "free ride" in making outlandish "Scam" claims ...but asking a very simple stock-related question based solely on FACT is considered "ranting" by the antiNaugs? Here is the question once again:
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""...so you and your fellow antiNaugs state openly on this stock forum, ...where credibility is paramount, ...that NWAU management AT NO TIME are/were able to sell ANY of the NWAU stock they owned BEFORE the purchase of GEIV (i.e., before July 18th 2005)? NWAU Management in NO WAY could have set a date to sell their shares BEFORE July 18th 2005?""
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050718/phm019.html?.v=17
EPROM
watchdog (Rants):
Watchdog writes: ""I hate rants that make no sense and he/she was full of them tonight.""
I never knew that asking a very simple stock-related question was tantamount to a "rant". Here, I'll ask the exact same question and the readers can decide if they also think it is a rant:
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""...so you and your fellow antiNaugs state openly on this stock forum, ...where credibility is paramount, ...that NWAU management AT NO TIME are/were able to sell ANY of the NWAU stock they owned BEFORE the purchase of GEIV (i.e., before July 18th 2005)? NWAU Management in NO WAY could have set a date to sell their shares BEFORE July 18th 2005?""
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050718/phm019.html?.v=17
Now you can either quote more Chinese proverbs or old song lyrics ...or simply answer the question?
EPROM
Dog, I read your supposed answer???
So your VERY BEST ANSWER to my valid stock "question" (<== Ssee arbpro?) is a loose reference to "tea in China" and a 70's Jim Croce lyrical quote???
Okay .....anyone else?
EPROM
arbpro writes: ""Make outrageous statements like NAUG was fairly priced at 6 bucks, and you will be taken to task""
...Well that's just fine and dandy ....except for the fact that I never said that. Geeez, people! How do you antiNaugs manage to misread so much information in a simple post, yet profess to know so much about an entire company?
arbpro writes: ""So defend your statement.""
...And this statement that I supposedly made would be what? I remember asking a question (that is yet to be answered) ...but don't remember making any statements?
EPROM
Watchdog writes: """What the hell does that statement have to do with the price of tea in China??"""
...Is that you best answer?
EPROM
My, my, ...friendly crowd!
""I must be high, ... Please tell me you're smoking something, ...your statement is so sophomoric ... I not going to give you another answer that you obviously will not understand ... Either you are a first day investor novice or you are completely committed to distortion. ... the most blatant act of misrepresentation I have seen on this Board ... Now I know you’re high ... that is until they sold smart people like you their shares ...""
and finally: ...But what else would you expect from a novice or a pumper determined to deceive?
Well EXCUSE ME for expressing my opinion here on iHub! You know, I spent TWO ENTIRE MONTHS in the iHub jailhouse because my posts were deemed "personal attacks" on fellow posters. I'm just curious as to why I would be handed a two month sentence while abrpro, watchdog and Phil(bullrider) are free to say whatever they want to me? Something sure doesn't seem right about this.
Anyway, all of your childish slams and personal attacks aside, ...so you and your fellow antiNaugs state openly on this stock forum, ...where credibility is paramount, ...that NWAU management AT NO TIME are/were able to sell ANY of the NWAU stock they owned BEFORE the purchase of GEIV (i.e., before July 18th 2005)? NWAU Management in NO WAY could have set a date to sell their shares BEFORE July 18th 2005?
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050718/phm019.html?.v=17
...I eagerly await your answers.
Naive EPROM
P.S. Watchdog, I always overlook the words you mistype because I know what you are meaning. Would you like me to highlight and point out YOUR mistypings (like you have done on Starburst) ?
Dog, Dog, Dog ...
(1) Watchdog writes: ""No, they couldn’t because all of management’s and insider’s shares from the acquisitions are restricted and cannot be sold on the open market""
....Any member of a company's management can schedule the sale of their personal stock. Everyone knows that, Dog! True, there are "restrictions" ...but management members are ALWAYS able to sell their shares.
(2) Watchdog writes: ""From day one they have telling the shareholders they were going to become reporting, so what else could they do but to continue trying to get there by whatever means available. Enter NAUG.""
....Again, there was NO NEED to go through the trouble of trying to become a "fully reporting company" to get their shares sold. Just schedule a future sale of your NWAU, hype up a few Navicom and Starburst news items and you end up with TWICE the cash that you would doing it YOUR way.
Instead you feel they've orchestrated this extremely complicated "Dr. Evil" X-filesesque, fully-reporting buyout-scam saturated with all kinds of T-shirts, DVD's, Multi-Dealership purchases, and costly external accounting expenses just so they can make HALF of what they COULD have made?
(3) Watchdog writes: ""The selling is coming from current NAUG shareholders who came with the shell ...Also from the old NWAU original guys who got stock for their notes but were holding on until now.""
...Okay, NOW you say the old "NWAU Original Guys" who owned their stock at the $2 levels are supposedly "holding until now" so that they can sell it at the $1 level. Well THAT certainly makes sense!! Now you also have the NAUG guys who had shares valued at $6 a share "holding until now" so they can sell tem at $2.90 a share. ....Makes even MORE sense, Dog!
...Chase your tail much?
EPROM
watchdog writes: ""They, in fact, have already started to sink it. I guarantee you the insiders are slowly selling now and will continue to do so until they can sell quickly, which is whenever the “whatever” is released next “take your pick” day.""
If this is "true" then why would they go through all of the trouble creating NAUG and all of the associated glitterati that goes along with it just to sell their personal shares at what is tantamount to $1-a-share of NWAU?
They could have sold all of their personal shares of NWAU back when it was a "pink sheet" company without all of the needless NAUG hassles? ...and for (((TWICE))) as much as it's going for today??!!
So WHY would you profess that NAUG management is dumping NOW when TWICE as much money was available on sold NWAU shares only a few months ago?
....Your selling logic doesn't make sense????
EPROM
Thanks for going slow!
arbpro writes: ""I SUSPECT that the alleged emails are NOT from the CEO. The ONLY way I can verify one way or the other is TO ASK.""
I KNOW you think I'm not following you and that you need to go real "sloooooow" ......... but:
If you TRULY FEEL that a CEO shouldn't be answering people's emails, why would you want to verify OTHER people's CEO emails by sending the same CEO yet ANOTHER email all-the-while never even expecting the CEO to answer your emails in the first place?
............Isn't that like you shooting yourself in the head to see if it would actually kill you?
EPROM
abpro ...I'm confused???
First you write this:
(Post #7486) abpro writes: ""But when I mail the CEO and ask him this question, "Will you confirm or deny the authenticty of emails being ascribed to you on the IHUB message board?," I get no reply.""
...and then you write the following:
(Post #7486) arbpro writes ""Only a bush league penny stock would have a CEO personally answering emails""
So which is it?? ...Do you want your emails answered or NOT????
EPROM
P.S. Do you now see why we NAUG longs have so much trouble following the antiNaug way of looking at investing?
arbpro's views on "CEO Duties"?
arbpro writes ""So it is not important to you to know authoritatively that these alleged emails from the CEO are actually FROM the CEO?"
I'm curious.
You seem to want to impress people on your "Stock Savvy" and how you are so knowledgeable about this particular NAUG investment ...yet at the same time you would incredulously suggest that a CEO of a company should actually spend his valuable time discussing what is written on public stock forums???
Now, ....if you DO INDEED have some kind of "following" ....what type of brains could they possible have if they go along with that rather whacked "CEO's Duties" philosophy?
Matter fact, ..........What stocks DO you invest in?
I'd REALLY LIKE TO SEE one of your "hand-picked" investment companies where the CEO sits around his office all day with his $500K salary and his trendy little lap top talking about some stupid crap written on public forums by some anonymous poster.
.....I'll bet THAT company is REALLY reeling in the big $$$$!!!!!
LOL,
EPROM
arbpro writes: ""So it is not important to you to know authoritatively that these alleged emails from the CEO are actually FROM the CEO?""
...How did you arrive at the conclusion that I am not interested in the authenticity of the data posted on this forum based on my previous post?
arbpro writes: ""f the emails are forgeries then they would serve no other purpose but to artificially support the stock price.""
...They very well may be "forgeries", but I would NEVER expect the CEO of a company to spend his company's time discussing data submitted by anonymous posters on public forums. ...Would YOU?
abpro writes: ""Come to think of it, yes you would be in favor of that.""
...I have NEVER pumped this stock nor have I ever been in favor of pumping. Matter of fact I have been a lot more "honest" about this investment in the few posts I've made today than you have ever been in your ENTIRE LIFETIME of NAUG iHub posts.
EPROM
abpro writes: ""this stock comes under down side pressure, presto, an email from the CEO shows up on this board. But when I mail the CEO and ask him this question, "Will you confirm or deny the authenticty of emails being ascribed to you on the IHUB message board?," I get no reply. What a company. LOL A CEO who feels he needs to personally reply to emails with fore knowledge that those messages will be posted on a message board. What a JOKE!""
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That's because you aren't asking the CEO of NowAuto a question directly relating to the NowAuto company. You are asking them a question concerning the happenings on "investorshub.com".
I wouldn't answer your question either. Why waste my valuable CEO time recanting what was posted by some schmuck on some public forum somewhere on the internet?
EPROM
...yadda
mmfats writes: ""If Phil, WD or I had posted that,it would be a BASH. To you it's a SLAM. Could they be one in the same?""
Here's the difference, fats:
(1) I am STILL long on NAUG and plan on stayng that way.
(2) I have been open and TRUTHFUL as to my investment status in NAUG.
(3) My frustrations are not driven by any "hidden agendas".
(4) I actually give NAUG credit when they do something good.
(5) I am only critical of NAUG when the seem to be dropping the ball.
You (and the other antiNaugs) have NO investment status in NAUG, ...NEVER say anything good about NAUG ....NEVER say WHY you are even operating on this forum, ...OBVIOUSLY have "secret agendas" ....BASH day-in and day-out 24/7/365 ....TWIST the news items around to conform with whatever your antiNaug sentiments happen to be ...and worst of all ...you all have spun NAUG merely as a "SCAM" without any proof of such what-so-ever.
.............That's the difference, my fat little friend.
EPROM
P.S. You antiNaugs could have gotten a lot farther with your "antiNaug campaign" had you pointed out at least a FEW qualities about this company along the way.
Fats writes: ""seem to change your mind fast and often.""
When have I changed my mind? I've NEVER been happy about these "audited numbers" delays and have been very vocal about it in the past ...but I'm still 100% long on NAUG and STILL give them the benefit of the doubt.
...So again, ....when have I changed my mind?
EPROM
P.S. Or did you just type some "slam" out real fast without even thinking about it first?
Jamie,
You'd think a 50% drop in share value (since August) would warrant an explanation from NAUG management as to what the current situation is? Here's something to consider ...
Lets say NAUG drops to around $2 and the audits FINALLY come out:
(1) The audited numbers prove to be "in line" with what has been previously stated. Even if you get a 100% increase in share value the very next day, ...most NAUG investors would probably STILL be sitting on a losing investment and be fairly pissed off.
(2) The audited numbers prove to be "NOT in line" with what has been previously stated. The stock stays at $2 or even lower depending on how much they have missed.
(3) The audited numbers prove to be "even better" than what has been previously stated. Even if you get a whopping 200% increase the very next day ($6 per share), you STILL don't see an all-time high for the share value as a result ...even though the audited numbers have proven all that management has stated all along ....and MORE!
This is what happens when you make major promises and predictions ............but miss your deadlines in doing so.
EPROM
P.S. As stated before, I'm hanging tough with my NAUG/NWAU shares ...but management's handling of this situation certainly does not reflect the best interests of the current shareholder (in MY opinion).
EPROM's "NAUG Slam" ...
NOTE: I'm still NAUG invested, ...buy not very happy with my investment. This audit officially counts as a "Management Dropped the Ball" situation. There should NEVER have been this much of a missed deadline for a company boasting of how they are so "on the ball". Right now, the many steadfast investors are paying a major penalty for their long-term dedication. The "Reward Potential" for our long-term dedication is quickly getting eaten away by this ugly downslide.
I know the AntiNaugs will probably jump all over this post and use it as "Shorting Fuel" ....but at least I'm HONEST about my NAUG evaluations and not just saying this to promote some hidden agenda.
I'm posting what is probably going on in most NAUG investor's minds right now (the ones who are selling):
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"Why should we believe that NAUG could be a $100M Company in THREE years when it takes over ONE year to accurately show what you have ALREADY done the last TWO years?"
...Okay, that was my official "NAUG Slam" for the day.
EPROM
Peeker .....
You walk a "fine line" posting something like that in this public forum (even if you ARE just kidding). History shows that one should note joke around with bogus news items.
...Just some friendly advice.
EPROM
SNOW writes: ""Is a p/e of 12 cheap for a company whose management you say you don't trust?""
He11, Snow, I've NEVER trusted ANY corporate management team!
Since "percentages" are this morning's topic and you have mentioned NAUG ....name one company's management team that YOU feel can be 100% trusted?
EPROM
""Not really. Have fun, Phil""
...Its probably safer for you this way. Besides, ...a good man knows his limitations.
EPROM
Phil(Bull) writes: ""If you hold any "secret" inside information it would be against the law to trade on it.""
...Wanna know what my secret NUAG info is?
EPROM