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Thanks for that video. Question remains, where does DNAG fit in the M2GEN deal, if at all? IMO, a pr stating that DNAG is a player with Merck and Moffitt in the M2GEN deal will do wonders for the pps of this stock. If not, then we could be heading back to subpenny.
JMHO
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wrl
Please tell us how DNAG is going to obtain the "research and development" money which Gomez has already "wearily" and publicly stated that the company is unable to generate from revenues? If not from toxic financing and the second r/s, then from where?????
JMHO
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stockboy
The recent news has indeed been fluff and indefinite. Big concern is whether or not there is anything in the M2GEN deal for DNAG. That original local paper pump of the deal associating Gabriel and DNAG with Merck/Moffitt was just journalistic license to glorify the area. What we need is a definitive pr from DNAG stating unequivocally that it is a partner in the Merck/Moffitt M2GEN deal, and not just a possible outside provider of analytical services. I do not think such a pr is forthcoming, given that all the prs' have been confined only to naming Merck and Moffitt as the players.
JMHO
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stockboy
Looks like the locals could put the kibosh on the M2GEN deal and DNAG is not being invited to the party. When all the smoke clears, DNAG may be left standing alone in its new facility wondering how to pay operational expenses. IMO, the company must raise some cash ASAP in order to keep the doors open, and the only way that might happen is through another toxic financier, second r/s and resulting destruction of shareholder value. Maybe there is another way, but I don't see it, given the current circumstances, and none of the pumpers here has offered a viable solution to the financial crisis.
JMHO
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jever000
So you are saying you have no idea whether or not there is any significant results, but are waiting to "find out soon enough"? I would think any significants results from that 3 year DNAG/Moffitt alliance would have been press released to the public as they became available. Seems reasonable to now assume there have been none, and that could be the reason DNAG has not been invited to the M2GEN party. Just some food for thought.
JMHO for your kind consideration.
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jever000
Not good to see that DNAG was not mentioned. Dr. Timothy Yeatman seemed enthusiastic about working with DNAG back in March 2004, but now seems to ignore DNAG as a participant in the M2GEN deal, a deal that supposedly focuses on personalized medicine with Merck and Moffitt as the key players. What gives? Does DNAG have a problem here? Is it because the DNAG/Moffitt deal back in March 2004 produced no significant results after almost 3 years?
JMHO
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bag8ger
I was aghast at this, your most slanderous comment directed at yours truly. And to think I had considered you a gentleman and scholar based on our previous correspondence on this fine board. I had even publicly elevated you above the intellectual poseurs and babbling charlatans on this fine board. My resulting despondency from your cavalier callousness will not be easily assuaged except, perhaps, by a .75 pps. But then again, we know quite well that porcines do not easily sprout wings and fly, don't we?
JMHO and, notwithstanding your reprehensible behavior, I still wish you a very happy day!
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lizm67
Please refrain from making erroneous assumptions and compounding that error by making erroneous conclusions based on those erroneous assumptions in order to make you feel better about your investment in this stock. IMO, it is far more important for you to explain in detail to the board exactly why you continually and publicly maintain this stock is "undervalued", instead of irrelevantly trying to second guess the thoughts of another poster.
JMHO
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chrisbaskett
Aparently you still do, given your continued reading of my posts and your incredibly childish and vulgar responses to them.
I thought you had placed me on ignore long ago and ran off sniffing and huffing to the pumping board after disparaging this fine board and its moderators for not doing a good job. Your posting history seems to confirm this.
I also note you have been issuing many scornful comments about stockhlder101 after you felt he had betrayed your trust in him about this investment. Please remember this is a stock message board...not a sensitivity clinic for emotional problems.
JMHO
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lizm67
No accumulating, am still a long term bagholder like you and the rest on this board. There is concern about how the company will come up with the money to sustain its continued operation and when it will have to implement the second r/s to obtain that money and destroy shareholder value....again. Whether or not you still believe this stock is "undervalued" is irrelevant if the market refuses to assign a higher value.
I am sure you are not so bold as to proclaim you are smarter and know more about this investment than those who make up the market. You are influenced by your personal investment and fear of financial loss, thereby rendering your opinion less than objective, particularly since you have refused to provide a detailed explanation as to why you continually maintain this stock is "undervalued."
JMHO
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Gcbr
Why will I be "going down"? I assume my shares will also enjoy the same gain as yours. I just tend to be more rational about this investment than you. LOL!
bag8ger
LOL! So you're feeling your oats after the recent run-up in pps, an indicia of corporate worth which you have already proclaimed as irrelevant. Why is it any different this time? Because it went up instead of down? LOL!
I will not even begin to critique your disjointed essay on dreams versus rationale for fear of further depressing you, but I will leave you with this thought: dreams not grounded in reality are doomed to be nightmares and the jury is still out on whether or not what Frudakis has given us is of real commercial worth.
JMHO and hope you are having a good evening!
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jever000
Until I see that $8 million asset shown in the balance statement of DNAG, I will not believe it. You should not either until the proof is in. We have all been led down the DNAG primrose path by the happy managers with a plethora of promises and assurances over the past 7 years which never materialized. We are now barely above a subpenny pps. I believe you understand this, even if you are now convinced that THIS time it is going to be different.
JMHO
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bendriver
You have provided no assurance that DNAG will have any participation in M2GEN. If fact, you have reinforced my doubt about DNAG's inclusion in the M2GEN ballgame. However, this does not mean if DNAG is willing to pony up big bucks, as it has been required to do in the past deals, it will be excluded from participating in the M2GEN party. There is always the possibility of paying a price for participation....if you have nothing indispensable to offer.
JMHO
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stockhlder101
A big concern is whether or not DNAG will be required to PAY Merck or any other pharma for the privilege of working with it. Paying a company for the privilege of an association is definitely not the same as partnering with that company. Virtually all the past so-called deals DNAG has entered into required it to pay humonguous dollars for the privilege of those deals, hence the low pps of its stock.
JMHO from the facts.
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stockhlder101
LOL! You have misinterpreted that question. It was not meant to be rhetorical, much less positive, but rather a direct inquiry for an explanation of your optimism. tia
JMHO
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stockhlder101
There has been no definite indication that Merck is moving down to FL to join DNAG. If fact, the question still remains as to whether DNAG will be either an important first string player in the M2GEN ballgame or just sit on the sidelines as a bench warmer...where it has been for the past 7 years and paying someone else for the privilege of playing.
When will the coach of an important pharma go to DNAG and say "You have unique and important patented technology that no one else has, so we want to pay you big bucks to join our personalized medicine team!"?????
JMHO
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fatboy22
I am surprised that the Mammoth article could have had any effect at all. That is certainly not a significant revenue generating deal which is really what the company needs to get the pps out of the crapper. All the hype and bruhaha that we've seen over the past year have been nothing but fluff and cannot increase the pps and sustain it at a respectable level. I am afraid all we have here is a trading vehicle for those skilled in that art.
The fact that no pr has issued from all that Merck/Moffitt noise confirming DNAG as a viable partner in the M2GEN deal leads me to believe no one is seriously considering what DNAG has to offer to be a viable personalized medicine contribution for the M2GEN objectives.
JMHO but I suppose time will tell.
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penny
I am only a long term bagholder concerned about the negatives which might eventually destroy what is left of my original investment. No one else seems to be concerned about the negative facts, denying they exist and replacing them with delusional fantasies which, insofar as I am aware, have no tangible basis in fact. Given this, I am very comfortable as an individual contributor to this fine board and not being in any social alliance with or influenced by anyone else.
JMHO for your most kind consideration.
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jever000
Why just be glad? You could be truly estatic if you would only take out another mortgage on your home, combine those proceeds with your entire retirement stash and back up the truck for as many shares as that total amount will buy! Your confidence and enthusiasm for this stock may eventually reward you with a listing as one of Forbes' richest people in the world while you are tooling around Sarasota in your Bentley GT convertible and blowing kisses to the happy managers!
JMHO for your kind and immediate implementation!
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stockboy
What is your take on the apparent bruhaha over a supposed Merck deal? Just pumper insanity or is it something of probable realization? tia
BTW, have you considered buying back in yet?
JMHO
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stockhlder101
The important question is why hasn't Merck/Moffitt/M2GEN been lining up to partner with DNAG for the Ancestry platform? If that platform is so critical to M2GEN, then why was it not mentioned specifically by Merck/Moffitt in the press releases on M2GEN? Why would Merck/Moffitt even consider setting up M2GEN if they have not even been contractually assured of DNAG's participation? Very curious questions, wouldn't you say?
JMHO
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stockhlder101
Are any of those 6 companies in direct competition with DNAG in personalized medicine? Has any of those companies already cut alliance deals with Merck/Moffitt/M2GEN? Do you think any or all of those 6 companies could make DNAG inconsequential for M2GEN? Do you think this is why the happy managers have been unable to provide a definite statement on a DNAG/M2GEN alliance? tia
JMHO
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chiggah
Your post is really incomprehensible. I sympathize with your emotional distress and advise that you should really seriously consider discussing this matter with a competent therapist to whom you should provide all of your posts to me, all of my responses to you, the financial condition of DNAG, and its current pps for that professional's kind consideration and opinion.
JMHO for your kind consideration.
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jever000
So you are basically saying that pumping is good, even if fraudulent, and posting negative comments about this investment is bad, even if based on facts? Have you no shame?
JMHO for your kind consideration.
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jever000
My comments regarding your deplorable activities on this board remain unanswered by you. Nonetheless, I shall accord you the courtesy of answering your current tirade of accusations, none of which has any basis in fact.
I have nothing to gain by addressing the negative facts about this investment except to elicit interesting discussions of opposing views, an essential purpose of stock message boards.
I am definitely not being paid to post my messages. Only those in extreme delusional denial of the facts believe I am being compensated for my posts because, for them to believe otherwise, they will have no choice but to believe what I have posted, a most painful wake-up call to reality.
I have no intention of hurting anyone, particularly stockholders since I am also one. I am only interested in anything which has and could hurt my investment.
My actions cannot have any effect on depressing the pps because everyone on this board have already dismisssed what I have to say as being inconsequential and wrong. I believe they have all flocked to you for superior positive and accurate guidance in this investment.
My intentions, as detailed above, should not send any "red flags" for anyone.
If you want to buy more shares because of what I post, then that is your choice. I do not recommend anyone to buy or sell shares in DNAG based on what I have to say. It is only for their kind consideration.
JMHO
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jever000
Nobody is preying on anybody with the sole exception of you and your fraudulent predictions and claims for this investment. You should be ashamed of yourself for misleading unwitting investors of all ages down the path of financial destruction, and all because you only want to protect your losing stake at the expense of others. This is neither ethical nor moral.
JMHO for your kind consideration.
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chiggah
Please try to control your emotions and boorish attitude. I know you have a lot in stake with this investment, but that does not mean you have the right to arbitrarily represent your fantasies as facts. I would like very much to see significant revenues for DNAG, but that is currently just wishful thinking on your part. There is no documented assurance that DNAG will ever get anything from M2GEN. Perhaps you are privy to some special insider information that no one else is aware of?
JMHO
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chiggah
I see you and many others here are waxing ecstatic about the possibility of DNAG obtaining revenues from the Merck/Moffitt M2GEN deal, a deal from which it was apparently excluded as a principal participant.
There has been no indicated assurance that DNAG will receive any revenues from that deal. I find it surprising that the thrust of M2GEN is in theranostics, and even more surprising that there has been no definitive inclusion of DNAG by either Merck or Moffitt in what they are planning to do. Does it not seem odd to you that the unique personalized medicine initiatives of DNAG are being essentially ignored by Merck and Moffitt through their exclusion of DNAG from M2GEN? Perhaps they will contract DNAG for some research and testing services?
JMHO
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DorseyE
DNAG "will also be part of a massive research initiative", but only in the context of its current research agreement with Moffitt. The M2GEN deal appears to be only between Merck and Moffitt, with DNAG not being involved.
There is NO indication that Merck/Moffitt/DNAG are forming a three-way organization called M2GEN through which DNAG's personalized medicine predictive/diagnostic protocols will be utilized to develop personalized cancer treatments.
Besides, "Merck and Moffitt will form a for-profit company, called M2GEN", so that definitely excludes DNAG which has been a not-for-profit company for almost 7 years.
JMHO
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stockboy
You are correct in noting there is no direct connection between DNAG and the Merck/Moffitt M2GEN deal. It is my understanding that DNAG has been paying Moffitt for the privilege of doing some research for that organization, although there has been no earth shaking results from that research, as evidenced by the pps. There is nothing to indicate any relationship between DNAG and Merck or between DNAG and M2GEN, although the pumpers would like you to believe such a relationship exists. This is not to say that such a relationship cannot be realized in the future, only that none exists today.
JMHO from the facts.
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bag8ger
You have pumped a lot of hot air on this board about you being correct and anyone suggesting negative facts about this investment to be wrong. I understand you do not believe the pps has anything to do with the value of this investment. So what will you now tell those long term bagholders, including yourself, that the pps is .0135, barely above subpenny level? Will you assure them that all is going well and they should have absolutely no concerns about this investment going forward?
Please be kind enough to at least respond to them. You do not have to respond to me.
JMHO
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Virgil
Again, your angst for this dismal investment has driven you to extreme delusional paranoia. I never implied that Gomez "couldn't cut it at Merck", as you so emotionally concluded. In fact, if you would be kind enough to reread my post you will see I concluded with the following: "I have absolutely no idea why Gomez would elect to leave Merck and join DNAG, but you have raised a very interesting question for serious consideration by the shareholders."
You emotionally crazed pumpers must try to settle down and come to grips with reality, instead of going wacko with your knee-jerk reactions every time negative factual evidence is presented for your consideration.
In case you have not noticed, most long term bagholders, including yourself, are suffering dearly and the pps is barely above subpenny level. What say you about this deplorable plight?????
JMHO
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wrl
Am not sure what you mean by the term "bashing." I am only offering contrarian views based on the facts as I see them. After all, I assume even you may want to know what might be bad for your investment. You cannot have your head in la la land all the time. Have to come up for a breath of reality once in a while.
JMHO for your kind consideration.
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fatboy22
IMO, Merck must surely require that its upper level employees, especially management, be paid according to a merit based compensation system. If an employee does not produce, he either does not get a raise or is terminated.
As you know, DNAG has no such system, but instead a very lucrative program set up by Frudakis which essentially guarantees lavish salaries and bonuses that are automatically annually renewable, regardless of performance. None of the happy managers, save the possibility of Gabriel's wife, have been fired even though the destruction of shareholder value has been astonishing, particularly since Gabriel and his wife took over the management reins. In fact, the first r/s and a subpenny pps have been the higlights of Gabriel's tenure.
I have absolutely no idea why Gomez would elect to leave Merck and join DNAG, but you have raised a very interesting question for serious consideration by the shareholders.
JMHO
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stockhlder101
If that were the case, then why didn't Merck deal directly with DNAG and cut a separate deal with it? After all, it is my understanding that Moffitt does not have an exclusive deal with the Ancestry platform, and is more than willing to have DNAG pay it for the privilege of doing the research. If what you are saying is correct, than it would seem to me DNAG is holding all the cards and sitting in the catbird's seat with Merck and Moffitt frothing at mouth. LOL!
JMHO
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stockhlder101
Do you think the DNAG Ancestry platform is indispensible for the Merck/Moffitt alliance? If not, then how important is it to the alliance?
JMHO
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stockhlder101
What funding do you envision the company being able to secure in the absence of the second r/s to guarantee repayment to the lender? In other words, what lender, aside from a shark toxic financier, will give funds to a company having no indicated ability to repay those funds? tia
JMHO
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fatboy22
Thank you for exposing the continuing fraud on this board which has done nothing but hurt unwitting newbies to this pos stock.
JMHO
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altarboy4
None taken! IMO, what we are dealing with here is a real POS penny stock which has been promoted with a copious amount of fluff press releases but, insofar as I am aware, nothing of substance.
The pumpers have been waxing multiple origamis over any uptick of the pps but, as you have clearly seen, there is really nothing to write home about. This is a haven for traders taking advantage of emotional outbursts...nothing more.
Unless and until the company is validated through a recurring revenue deal with a legitimate pharma/biotech company, we will all be doomed to continually suffer from the manipulations of the mm's and fleet-footed traders.
JMHO from the facts and hope you are doing well!
dr f