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Not sure what you mean
The focus here to me is X22 or Brand A or both just got a green light.
That's buyout territory.
2.00 will hold. I bet
One tobacco plant produces thousands of seeds.
Agree grub
What more is there to dissect? We could dissect your older posts. You know the ones where you kept saying XXIIs tobacco tech wasn't going anywhere.
No integrity.
I'll never understand that strategy.
Looking back, knowing the company in depth plus knowing tech indicators could have made tons of $$.
I don't want to sound negative. The FDA announcement to me was a huge positive for XXII.
Brand A or X22 or BOTH should be EASY wins. Nicotine mandate In 5 yrs is what I'm skeptical of.
Then again, they won't be taking OG macanudos away in any near or distant future IMO.
If HNB devices flop, you can bet your butt litigation will push back the mandate further.
Well I'm in the business of nicotine and the "mandate" doesn't worry me one bit. It's 8 years since 2009 FS&PA and now they are saying another 5 years.
JFM is a lawyer so I would imagine he's looking through a similar lens like I am.
I have to agree with JFM on majority of his points. I really don't see anything being done in regards to a mandate in 5 yrs. I think releasing the lowering nicotine levels PR was to appease the anti smoking groups since they are pissed all ecigs will be unregulated another 5 yrs.
However... I think the door for a brand A or an X22 product is now wide open. Providing options and education vs regulation barriers is the more logical approach.
I would had a hard time posting now if I made some of the previous posts he did. No integrity.
I was a currency trader, and on the board at a biotech company. Listen to me. Sell at 1.50 my gullible lemmings.
Good thing nobody listened to that one that got out and was trying to influence others to get out around 1.50. Lol
Xxii is a public traded company. Why TF couldn't they be bought out? The few arguments I have read are weak.
Where's the monopoly? Where's the market?
Wouldn't one have a lot more influence over policy if they controlled or owned the tech?
Opinions here folks. Nobody knows $4!7
So the motley fool said no buyout due to antitrust. But I disagree (that it would violate anti trust). Xxii has a competitive advantage with HOW they get low nicotine -- by working with what's already there which enables them to make it non GMO after breeding the plant with the silenced gene (I think that's how it goes).
I'm sure big tobacco can add some foreign dna into the tobacco plant and create a low nicotine plant, but then it remains GMO. And will always remain GMO. It's still a low nicotine plant though. So where's the monopoly? I just see a competitive advantage.
I'm not saying I think a buyout will come soon. I definitely wouldn't say it's off the table. BAT could buy it then license it out as well and xxii gets half the profits from who BAT licenses it out to.
To me it's almost like the FDA used the low nicotine announcement to appease the crowds against extending vape?
Either way I think it paves a nice path for a brand A MRTP nod and/or a X22 fast track.
Nobody wants to smoke a low nicotine product for fun. Regardless of what Big T said after the news Friday, I think they will fight it like crazy.
Unless FDA gives them MJ. Then maybe big T would go quietly with low nicotine. Big T would still get their profits, they would probably control vape, lawmakers get their tax money, and FDA gets lower rates of smoking cigs and low nicotine Cig's. Millennials get to go buy MJ ;)
I'll take anything over $5 and sell my 180+ shares. I have 20k shares at .81 cents that will always remain for the buyout, or $30+
I don't think there's much more to add.
Quest's final step product (the lowest nicotine cig) was a burly tobacco cigarette since at the time xxii was only able to do the VLN in burly tobacco. From what I can remember from the research I did, the lowest level nicotine cig offered by quest tasted like crap because it was burly and Americans like a mix of flue cured and burly tobacco. Xxii now has second gen tech out which they can lower nicotine in other types of tobacco as well.
So I wrote all that for two reasons, one being xxii knows their VLN product now will suit people's tastes better and also, from skimming the patent granted today, my first thought is that XXII can now up regulate Nictinic alkaloids in other tobacco varieties. We know that Big T wants the high nicotine per Henry on the second to last CC (yours truly asked the question).
The only other thing I can think of is that adjusting levels of different alkaloids can alter how the plant produces sugar, carcinogens, and nicotine. I believe increasing nornicotine will decrease levels on NNN.
My last paragraph there could have a lot of errors and holes. The info is out there if one feels like scouring through studies.
They at least provide entertainment with all their aliases on ST.
I was wondering where "germandogsrule" went on another board. They are busy with xxii now (again).
It makes sense why Brand B never really seemed important now with this new announcement.
I always was skeptical how one could get a brand B modified risk. There was a study I was just reading where they increased nicotine and the user eventually smoked more I believe.
The FDA announcement definitely was a surprise. I never saw it coming this soon. It's kind like when Joe P told Herzog "it's more of a development license, the research is done". Same can be said for FDA. They did the research already and we know it. The phase 3 must have had good results. Maybe we will see the results soon?
You'd be in the $10m club eh Zed?
Lol. Yep. My first purchase was July 2013 I believe. I was selling cheese in Green Bay looking for 3D printing stocks to invest in. I was on the ONVO board and someone was on there pumping XXII. That MF lol.
Monday should be fun.
This week will be interesting.
What does this do to Brand B?
It won't be 7 mill I bet. It was 4 milestones each at a certain payout. I bet they got 1 or 2 milestones. 3-4m payout imo
Looks to me like you are in it to pinch peenies
Don't think so. Heavy selling above 1.70 it seems
But but but Esad saidddd
Yup. At least you're right on true facts that can be easily looked up
Etrade doesn't
Doubt it but I would buy a bunch more. I don't know if I can say I hope you're right!
1.15-1.25 (I still don't see that happening)
(I'm not using any tech or charts :) )
Careful going into September shorting
At some point perhaps there would be a rush to legalize before economies of scale set in and legalizing MJ isn't taboo anymore.
Ends sept 29 (Friday) . Oct 2nd - Monday - first day of business without an BATsExclusive R&D license
Yeah right...
That's why I own a tidbit of RAD
So are food and fast food companies, so are drug companies, so are alcohol companies and chemical companies.
What company in modern history has just laid down and surrendered and didn't adapt? We are talking about adults making a conscious decision who are well aware of the risks. Now they will have more and potentially way less harmful options if they choose to keep using nicotine. How you want to label tobacco companies moving forward is just semantics.
PMs strategy is really starting to shape over these last few weeks. There is a study out there that shows vapor products in conjunction with VLN Cig's helps a cig smoker move off of combustibles.
I'm gonna go buy me an IQOS when it comes out. I'm over 18 and free baby. Woooo
I figured someone else would pick up on that. Can't remember to switch his aliases and can't remember what profession he was in. Lol
Maybe once MJ takes over as the populations lead vice.
Future generations would get laid less tho. And probably fatter.
Sounds like a great plan and I won't have any problem getting water 25 yrs from now ;)
When it gets legalized I wouldn't be surprised to see a THC cap on it. It would also be in Big Ts best interest to push regulation of THC as much as possible to ensure barrier to entry.
I would be willing to bet the govt would use my former company to track when THC product leaves MFGs and where it goes from 3rd party distributors.
Knowing the same products are being sold in Cali and NY has to be something the FDA is interested in...
Read an article quoting PMI saying they have been "planning for this new world since 2004-2005". But but... That was over 10 yrs ago!!! How could they possibly stick to a plan for over 10 yrs!?