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A message to Littlrmissunderstood.
You should read the reply brief on Pacer. It is essentially free. It is either 76 or 78 Pages,There is another non-public brief of six pages. I would love to hear your opinion after you analyze it.
There is more to this legal system then you can figure.If you knew what I know there would be fur flying. Enough said. This has been a real buying opportunity for me. I have doubled an already large number of shares. Bilboo out
For the last time: Goski has to set a meeting up with Chaya.I don't know if she will. She used to contract with a marketing relations firm In Vegas. That is most likely where ameeting would be. Bilboo out
Gonski has to negotiate a date with Chaya.
I stand by my issue about the liability change.
Consumers will be incensed.
Smartmetric is the on security solution currently available.
I am betting with money on the future. Period Bilboo
I don't have the authority to speak for erastaar. They used to be smartmetricsis investor relations people. I have known them for years. They have had contracts with Chaya in the past. MY due diligence is in my posts. I spent a lot of time and phone calls to get mastercards reply brief. I know exactly what it says. It is public record. You can get it also. I know mastercard hasn't had a post in a month. again public record. I have talked to their public relations employee. I have received some info from Motley Fool, Are you a member like me. Cost real money. It is public record about the liability sfift that is going to happen in 2015. I don't have meetings with Chaya but I can figure some things out for myself. If you care you can find out some things and extrapolate the rest. It is just like dealing with rumors at the company you work for. That's why they are called rumors. There are no easy answers here. Just good detective work.Bilboo
Loooks like a shot at me glenc
Can you explain why MasterCard and visa are down 10% for the year.Thats with a recommendation by Motley Fool for mastercard.
Can Ajay move the security issue. Things are going to change soon.
Bilboo
If I were MasterCard and visa, I wouldn't let smartmetric beat me to the cheese. Right now they must be thinking how to circumvent us.
Billions and billions are at stake. Phone apps don't have the security. scans of the eye are not simple enough. The tidal wave of smartmetric is approaching.[t][t][t][/t][/t][/t]We have a tenacious ceo. OH the drama It is better than a Gresham book.
Watch and listen to my mantra Somewhere over the Rainbow by Israel (IZ) Kamekama spelling. You can watch on you tube.Hawaii, That's where I'll be when the fat lady sings Bilboo out
This I SSUE about switching who has liability is a minefield for consumers no matter who is responsible. It is a red flag and a clear attempt for mastercard and visa getting away from fraud responsibility. It is all about the bottom line. Their stock is down from last year. Check it out. All this litigation just validates we have a valid patent to play in their sandbox, They want to buy us cheap. Good luck. Chaya outflanked them. She isn't just smart but tenacious. Let us see who is laughing
in a year. Cream always rises to the top. Bilboo out
Din't know if it is okay to share with you without talking to him first. They used to be constellation. now erastar. They used to do the marketing for smartmetric. I found out from a friend that used to deal with them.
Maybe we can set something up later.,
In my mind, the banks probably have to embrace this technology sooner rather than later. My bitch about mastercard and visa is how they treat people. I have had my cards hacked before, Don't like the hassle of dealing with canceling the card, looking up old statements and waiting for a new card. I invested for the security of it. One of my company cards was hacked at a gas station. The card was used in New Mexi co when I was using the real card in Yuma. It took over a year to get it straightened out on my expense report. Wouldn't have happened with a smartmetric card. There have been other incidents too.
I see a bank or a store contracting for the technology/security and then others will start a footrace to get the new safer card. We will be amazed when the public finds out about this card. It didn't hurt that Target had that hacking event. What better way to keep your good employees protected from bad employees and your customers all at one time.
I expect my bank to protect me. Paying for the smartmetric card is the least that can do. The new liability coming in Oct 2015 is Who has the least secutity. I don't want to quibble about what the rules will be but smartmetric fingerprint will be the most available technology for who is responsible. That will get out to the public sooner or later. Bioboo out
Mrnuts and bolts
I live on acre in Poway. Del mar is nice but the freeway five traffic is a bitch.
Been in smme about eight years.
You are pretty much dead on to my thinking the time frame will be.
I talk to the old investment group a lot. Chaya didn't renew the contract but they still own a ton of shares.
Everything looks good but the price. We will get there soon.
Bilboo
Thank you mrnutsand bolts for the perceived defense. I don't need to see the card to believe it's real. If it wasn't, mastercard would be shouting from the rooftops. When we are successful what will we call littlemissunderstood then. I'm hoping Goski negotiates a meeting with Chaya or will he shrink into the night.
Thanks Bilboo
A friend of mine(penny rus) has held the card in his hands. He has met Chaya. Chaya keeps a very low profile now. If Goski sets up a meeting that she agrees too I'll be there.
MasterCard evidently feels threatened by her breakthrough. Who wouldn't in their business. Chaya has moved their cheese.
Chaya is in a tough position right now and has been for a while.
I understand that is not our problem. But she is in a position of damned if she does and damned if she doesn't. I've worked for a big drug company and know change of plans. No excuses. She will get it done, but there are forces involved that we don't have to deal with. I didn't start this posting as an effort to defend what is going on. Try dealing with mastercard investor relations and Motley Fool like I have about the mastercard reply brief and then you will understand. This situation is like herding cats. All I want is smartmetric to be successful. Nothing less, nothing more. I am not the bad guy. I know who is. I've got the time to e-mail and do my due diligence and make phone calls. I am not the enemy just a believer with a lot of shares. You would think I would be complaining. This is industry changing technology. It won't be settled by a magic wand. Fortunes are at play. Many people don't want our change because they don't don't own it. We moved their cheese. Bilboo Out
Nuts andbolts you got the idea.
I expect to make millions and I will help other less fortunate people. MasterCard woke a bear. I want them bad. And we have the product to do it. I want to meet you and littlemissunderstood. We could even make the meeting a pre party, but I haven't heard from goski or whatever yet. I love carrot cake with coffee. Chaya has developed a better mousetrap, now we have to catch a few rats named mastercard and visa. Bilboo out
you are right user. Chaya has never brought it up but I did. That's why II own a bucket full of shares. The public doesn't want to go through another Target. Disgruntled employees can't still a fingerprint. The appeal opened my thinking neurons. If we get off our behinds, we can help make things happen. Remember it just depends on how good a job we do with institutional investors and mutual funds organizations. Security is the new mantra.
Bilboo out
As you have found user, beginning in oct 2015 the liability shifts to the entity who has the worst trchnology. Who the hell wants to be involved in that mess. And who decides who has the lesser technology.Thanks but no thanks. Give me a smartmetric card with biometric authorization.Bilboo
The United States is switching next year to the banks making consumers liable if they can't show an incident was not caused by the consumer. The whole liability issue is going to change in 2015 to make the consumer being in more of a pickle.
We should send letters to all institutional and mutual fund investors why mastercard isn't protecting their cardholders with biometric safeguards.
Lets put the monkey on mastercards back. Put them on the defensive about their cards. Bilboo
Gonski
If you can set up a meeting with Chaya, I will be there with a few investors in smartmetric.
The meeting will be held at erastar investment company that used to represent smartmetric, The president is Stefan Dalsgard.
Let us see if we can agree on a time and date. We know the place.Ball is in your court Bilboo
You can reach me by a message on ihub board so all the members are in the loop.
One last thought for the believers. next year the banks or the cards are going to switch the liability for fraud to the consumer.
Who won't want a smartmetric card then?
Who wants to assume any liability for fraud anytime.
MasterCard and visa think they can get smartmetric advances cheap.
Hell no. We may have lost a lawsuit, but I am all over tsticking it to them at the cash register. What is the mantra.SCREW MASTERCARD AND VISA AND SELL THE TECHNOLOGY TO DISCOVER AND AMERICAN EXPRESS AND STORES. Do you think if a store issues our card they would ever use a visa or mastercard just to get points instead of hacking risk. Bilboo out
Hey Gonski
You want Chaya's phone number?
It is at the bottom of every press release.
Set up ameeting in vegas.
Pennyrus will be there.
There is plenty of space available at erastar for free.
Look at the protype in real time.
You already have one member/stockholder ready to go to your neeting.
Lets get it on. Bilboo
After reading the new articles on the case about infringement, it makes me very curious what was in the six written pages of a separate reply brief to the judges. Except for what might be needed to be kept secret our courts are to be public and open. What is MasterCard trying to keep secret from our eyes.
Based on the articles, the question of who has control hasn't been answered yet. It is a daunting hurdle for the judges to find who is really in control after you read the mastercard and visa reply brief.
The mastercard and visa reply brief is about 76-to78 pages,
accessible by joining pacer(court papers-cheap to low cost) and then going through the steps, appellate court, hearing date, court case number- which is 14-1037 and download the pdf file or read the brief.
The judges have a huge hurdle to explain in their decision how Gussein is wrong because mastercard does nothing to refute his testimony. This is where the smoking gun resides. You people are too smart to be bamboozled. We are going to find out if the judges are honest or not. Its a real roller coaster ride so be prepared for a rather sharp curve. Chaya is not a person to go quietly in the night. Thank God she is a very tenacious fighter,
because it affects us. Believe me, you would not want to deal with mastercard. Keep the faith and ask tough questions like you do.
Bilboo
I am a new member but a very old investor in smartmetric. probably ten years. You can get the mastercard reply brief from pacer. Use court case 14 -1037 as the number. There is also a hidden paper reply brief of six pages that is not available to the public, Don't know what is in it but I tried to get a copy. It will be a big deal to me if MasterCard loses the case. I find, like others, it is unbelievable that mastercard does not disclose this case on their 10-Q on 10 R. If we win, I will buy a share of mastercard and sue them as a minority investor for withholding important information from investors about the case and technology. MasterCard and visa don't like Chaya. I'll leave it at that. Chaya's family history is unbelievable. She has a very unique history and family roots.I don't know how to attach the mastercard reply brief but I certainly have read it and, there is nothing it to shake things up. Maybe one of the computer whiz' can pull up the pacer file and send to everbody by a link. Oh, by the way, I own hundreds of thousands of shares so you nknow I belive in the process. Wish I owened one of the houses Chaya built in her subdivision in Australia. And she started an airline in Australia.yGood luck and thanks for the loyalty to the company. There are some people on tis board I want to met when we win or find out who really has control. Bilboo