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Sorry but the obvious double standard about Israel is about Jews. Someone on this board, for example, proudly stated they would never buy anything containing Intel chips made in Israel. While having no problem with stuff made by slave labor in the apartheid state of China. You tell me why the double standard.
Been to Vietnam lately? I have, and for the most part, they love all things American and we bombed and napalmed the shit out of them for maybe 10 years.
So your smug assertion isn’t really borne out by the real world. Check out All the Light We Cannot See.
You probably don’t read that much so watch the limited series on Netflix.
When you can rebut my points with real world facts, we’ll know that you’ve grown up . Meanwhile, your gratuitous insults are, well, childish
I don’t have other numbers but that doesn’t make it ok to make numbers up either.
It’s a fact that what he cited are numbers provided by Hamas that don’t distinguish between combatants and noncombatants.
Also it’s believed that Hamas has fired about 15k rockets at Israel and they have a misfire rate of 5%-10% with many of those hundreds falling back on Gaza, as did that one famously in the hospital parking lot. How many Gazans has Hamas killed in this fashion?
So to cite inaccurate numbers intentionally is to promote an agenda. And you tell me, please, why someone would do that
1) your numbers come from Hamas
2) they don’t distinguish between combatants and citizens
3) they don’t account for deaths due to misfired Hamas missiles
4) if you put the same lack of effort into your other posts, they are meaningless, too. Hey, enjoy your Israel hatred! Fucking Jews, amirite?
From WaPo, today, 01.26.24:
"But a Hamas leader last week exuberantly explained that he sees Palestinian statehood as just a way station to Israel’s destruction."
UNRWA fires staff accused of role in Israel attacks, launches probe
The United Nations aid agency for Palestinians (UNRWA) has fired several employees following allegations they were involved in the deadly terror attacks by Hamas militants in southern Israel.
"The Israeli authorities have provided UNRWA with information about the alleged involvement of several UNRWA employees in the horrific attacks on Israel on October 7," said Philippe Lazzarini, the agency's head.
"To protect the agency's ability to deliver humanitarian assistance, I have taken the decision to immediately terminate the contracts of these staff members and launch an investigation in order to establish the truth without delay," he said.
Lazzarini again condemned the October 7 attacks, in which Hamas, classified by multiple countries as a terrorist organization, killed about 1,200 people and took around 250 hostages.
UNRWA, which provides education, medical care and welfare services to hundreds of thousands of Gaza's 2.3 million people, has tens of thousands of employees.
"Anyone who betrays the fundamental values of the United Nations also betrays those whom we serve in Gaza, across the region and elsewhere around the world," said Lazzarini.
Martin Luther King, Jr, 10/22/67: “When people criticize Zionists they mean Jews. You’re talking antisemitism “.
But you already knew that.
In a revealing 1977 interview with the Dutch newspaper Trouw, PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein stated:
“The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct 'Palestinian people' to oppose Zionism.
"For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa. While as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.”
You will buy gas for your car that comes from the repressive regime in Saudia Arabia
You will buy coffee that comes from the repressive regimes in Ethiopia and Kenya
You will buy bananas and other produce that come from the repressive regimes in Honduras and Guatemala
You will buy stuff made by slave labor in the repressive regime of China
You live on lands stolen from indigenous people
But Israel? BDS - you have no moral compass
How’s the weather up there on your high horse.
Give us a quick rundown of wars in which there weren’t a lot of civilians killed, too many, where theres ever been a proportionate response, that’s the nature of war.
And Hamas knew this and are sacrificing Palestinians to their jihad. It’s on them, no attack on 10/7, no war, period.
Don’t waste everyone’s time going on about the settlers, Hamas couldn’t care less about the well being of the Palestinians. Or their leadership wouldn’t have stolen billions of $$$ from them.
Wake the fuck up
And there are people saying that if the UN had immediately declared the raids on 10/7 war crimes and demanded that Hamas leadership be extradited from Qatar to The Hague and release of the hostages, there would have been no war.
And there are people saying that if the UN had immediately declared the raids on 10/7 war crimes and demanded that Hamas leadership be extradited from Qatar to The Hague, there would have been no war.
Whatever. My thugs?
You actually do not read my posts. I’ve written that this whole thing is appalling but you seem set on a certain narrative, hence, whatever.
Ok, you see a certain chip by Intel was made in Israel. How, then, do you determine what computers it's polluting? There are websites that break down every make and model of computer and comprehensively list where each part of each machine was made? Possibly, but I kinda doubt it.
Why is stuff made in China ok, but stuff made in Israel is not?
That's a far cry from calling people morons or idiots or stupid, as many here routinely do. My criticism was constructive, a path to self improvement (that part is a joke, get it?), calling people names is not.
Whenever people go ad hominem, it can mean only a couple of things. That they can't substantively challenge someone's opinion or that they need to try to show that they're superior. The particular person I posted that to is an egregious insulter of others on this board. And he's probably a better person than that, so I thought I'd point it out.
I'm not accusing you of doing this, but so many on this board cannot deal with differences of opinion without resorting to personal attacks. Check it out if you don't believe me, or don't, it doesn't differ to me.
You'll know beforehand, how? You're going to walk into your neighborhood Apple or Best Buy store and ask the salesperson where various parts of the computer were made? Why would Israel keep it secret, anyway, it's not their business, it's Intel's.
I bet you're still buying cheap shit at Walmart that was made in the apartheid state of China, though, right? What's the difference?
Not a “brevity is the soul of wit” guy are you?
Ok dear, is it necessary for you to always try to demean people who have different opinions.? You come off as immensely insecure
Why don’t you go to Gaza and rape and torture some Zionists? Or are you cool with other people raping and torturing Zionists for you?
There’s a movement underway to boycott companies like Starbucks and McDonald’s and others for simply doing business in Israel
What are you going to do, open a computer to see if a chip says “made in Israel” before you buy it?
We'll just have one big happy country!
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/28/world/middleeast/oct-7-attacks-hamas-israel-sexual-violence.html
https://nypost.com/2023/12/28/news/freed-hostage-mia-schem-i-went-through-a-holocaust-as-a-hamas-captive/
I know it's from the NY Post, but what she talks about is non-partisan.
Meanwhile, Intel has just announced plans to build a large chip manufacturing facility in southern Israel .
You know what you should do as a completely principled position? In addition to boycotting everything made in the apartheid state of China, you should boycott everything powered by chips made by Intel
So do you think Hezbollah is ramping up its rocket attacks at Israel from Lebanon because: Israel bad! Israel apartheid! Israel fascist! Maybe they are simpatico with the Palestinians?
Or is it possible that this is part of Iran’s multi pronged war - Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis - to destroy Israel?
Keep posting poems by Palestinians and shutting down access to airports in America while your head remains in the sand and you refuse to acknowledge what’s going on.
And please don’t forget to explain to us why these attacks by Hezbollah are entirely Israel,s fault
And it had nothing to do with the way they were treated in those countries?
Like the northward migration of African Americans from the south was because they were just seeking colder weather?
Like my grandparents voluntarily fled Poland to escape Pogroms but maybe they were just sick of the cuisine there?
I posted last week the list of all the Middle Eastern countries that had expelled Jews and that is all of them.
Don’t come on here pretend psychoanalyzing me when you are in possession of zero facts
Wow, you really don’t read or cannot comprehend my posts. I stated that Arafat didn’t come up with the term, he threw it in at the last minute to scuttle the negotiations, it hadn’t been previously on the agenda
How can you not comprehend that the Jews will be expelled with a one state solution? Sure, just let a population of Hamas members move into Israel and it will all be hunky dory. You are being either difficult or delusional, I think your lack of empathy is sociopathic.
It’s Said not Seid
Poland took in like 1.5M Ukrainian refugees and Germany took in 500k Syrians. Why won’t Egypt take any Palestinians? Because they don’t want Hamas there, genius
And where do you answer the question about the fate of Israeli Jews post-Israel? There has to be a reason you refuse to answer., I’ve asked you 3 or 4 times. We’ve already seen that every Muslim majority country in the ME has expelled the Jews, but this time will be different, why?
So, over 125k Holocaust survivors live in Israel and you post a video of 3 anti-Zionist survivors. Which proves what, exactly?
Ok, you’re a Jew, Israel bad, whoop- de- dam- doo, but you never come up with any ideas for an equitable way out of this mess. Where will those Jews go? You gonna leave Hamas in power and we’ll all live happily ever after? Maybe all you need to do is keep writing, “Israel apartheid”, and “Israel fascist”, and that will solve things.
Come on down to Brooklyn, there’s a bridge here I’d like to sell you.
Seriously? Fuck off. Life is too short to deal with people who can’t see any validity in anyone else’s point of view. You do the same thing with Conix, Hap, etc. they’re idiots and morons and stupid for having different opinions.
Is that the way you think fully functioning adults should talk about people with different points of view?
You insist I think such and such, frequently, when you actually have no idea what I think.
Why won’t you answer the question? Where should the millions of Israeli Jews go when you dismantle the Zionist entity?
If it’s apartheid then so is America, Australia, Ethiopia, Iran, China et al. You doing a BDS about China? Stopped buying the cheap shit at Walmart that comes from there?
My only point has ever been that it’s a double standard when it comes to Israel.
Have you ever been to Israel? And seen Ethiopian Jews and Israeli Arabs interacting? You actually seem not to know what apartheid is.
Ok, got it, Israel bad. Do you have a point or are you just venting? Which is cool but doesn’t really advance the discussion.
I’ve condemned the WB settlements, repeatedly. Do you get so worked up that you don’t bother taking the trouble to actually read my posts?
Seriously dude, you need some better anger management, you’re embarrassing yourself with outbursts like this.
Which you’ve heard before I’m sure.
And where are the Israeli Jews supposed to go when you dismantle the Zionist entity?
I appreciate your manners.
But no, I don’t see demonstrations on college campuses or bridges being closed down or charity events being disrupted on behalf of the Syrians that Assad has been murdering.
Any solution that removes Hamas from power and lets Israel remain a country is fine by me..Saw somewhere recently that the Hamas leadership has fled Qatar to escape their inevitable fates. Which they won’t, I refer you to what happened to the Black September boys.
Next thing these knuckleheads are going to claim is that Hezbollah is firing rockets from Lebanon into Israel in the cause of Palestinian statehood.
Wow! Eloquently put. You must be right.
And remind me, where should the Jews in Israel go?
You posted some inane YouTube in which 3 Holocaust survivors explained why they are anti-Zionists. Meanwhile there are about 125k other survivors living in Israel.
If I post a video with 3 African Americans relating their support of Trump, how meaningful would that be?
The Satmars live in Monsey, NY, about a 2 hour drive from where you claim to live . And you’d never heard of them? That just doesn’t pass the smell test for an anti-Zionist Jew.
I’ve publicly condemned the settlers in the WB and wrote that Bibi should be in jail.
The numbers of Muslims being killed in various countries absolutely dwarfs what’s going on in Gaza.
That’s not to excuse it, but doesn’t it make you wonder, just a little, why only Israel is being called out about it?
Unless I missed the ongoing worldwide demonstrations demanding the end of China’s mistreatment of the Uyghurs, for example.
People just won’t admit that the company is in the business of selling shares not software.
And what percent of Americans support the apartheid state here?
Three types of lies and stats are one of them
Do you just refuse to see that you are the pot calling the kettle black? And that makes you a hypocrite?
Total fucking bullshit. Yes, the right wing barbarians are stealing land, inexcusably, but to conflate that with all of Zionism is total fucking bullshit.
When you were last in Tel Aviv, did you hear people expressing support of this or do you just “know”it?. I bet you can find a Holocaust survivor who supports Israel, but nah., you only want to hear about those who are anti-Zionist.
But you and the fake Jew please keep jerking each other off about this so you can feel superior and righteous. While you write from land stolen from Aborigines and Hymie writes from land stolen from Indians
You do know that over 20% of Israeli citizens are Arabs, who have equal rights or at least as much as your indigenous people ? Sort of makes it hard to understand how you conclude that it’s an apartheid situation and Australia isn’t?
Sort of pointless bias confirmation as you are aware. How about those MDs who think smoking cigarettes isn’t harmful or climate scientists who reject global warming?
How about the worldview of Michael Flynn, he was a general! Here’s a site right up your alley: flatearthsociety.org.
Because you believe what you want to believe yet are man enough to curse out and insult anyone who has a different opinion.
You claim to be an anti-Zionist Jew who had never heard of the Satmars? Who are famously anti-Zionist Hasids and who populate a town about 2 hours from yours and are on the news all the time as such?
That really showed your hand, I’m sure all those players personally told you bubkus.