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Please act with dignity and respect to myself and all ministers of htis board and common ordinary farmers and blacksmiths of the country. Otherwise we will grant you permanent residency at Ragingbull, where you can do whatever cowardly things you wish at your leisure.
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if i could have said it any more plain, i would have. can you understand, have fun.? enjoy? talk stock? relax? this is not complicated stuff here. i believe most of us are farmers and blacksmiths, arent we???
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i understood him perfectly. good choice for budget
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we are here to discuss stocks, have fun and not sweat the rules thing. we dont need no freakin badges. now, during market hours, we are much more serious and less humerous, as the moment dictates. however, during times of pause, we are indeed on the cutting edge of relaxation and humor. now, i have had discussion with matt about my taking this board in the direction that i and the ministers feel fit. if information, humor and hits are important, we will soon rule the universe. we encourage various view points and please engage all of us, even those of us who occassionally disengage accidentally now and then.
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we have stolen info from less than the best, but, we gave it back with an apology.
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good plan. i like that. creative thinking from the minister of s&m.
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You do indeed need the correct tools in the stock market or in administering a ministry as complex and penniless as the ministry of smoke mirrors and budget. I wonder if we could corner the market on those rare objects of historya and make a killing, reinvesting in baby nano's future, of course??
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T Shark, honored minister of smoke, mirrors & budget. The mirror you requested is available from a variety of sources, including , but, not limited to Hemmings Motor News, which has an abundance of sources for the item requied to carry out your duties. Good luck and Godspeed.
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no, i was responding to a post by the minister of smoke, mirrors and budget. you have to read all posts to understand the complexity of this board. lol.
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Missing in Action List:
pete
doc
nanoflight
finnegan
ams4900
maddog
You are in jeapordy of losing your ministries and that big fat check. also, losing the ministry isnt that big a deal, it is reporting afterwards to the minsitry of electrocutions and hangings that hurts.
we are building it and they shall come. be a part, even if it is a femur or a neck bone.
bb
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Rubberworm123: T -Shark keep posting stuff like this all night. It is your job now. You must be board monitor as bbarrett has to put Jake to bed....and I got 4 or 5 m ore than he has
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Rubberworm123: Our board did not flinch today. Why? We got hammered! Hello anybody out there? Cause we are the champions! Bring it on.
bbarrett49: we are long longs. we dont waiver. we dont whine. we drink wine. we are strong. we are united. we are the world
Rubberworm123: both both of those
bbarrett49: gonna buy the world a coke and sing in harmony
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Rubberworm123: Any and all info leading to who sold today should be brought to the attention of the Ministry of Electrocutions and Hangings. Our resident Mr. Jim Morrison, Famed singer, dead 31 years last July 6th.
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Rubberworm123: Thanks to our Minister of peace for going to RB to calm it down.
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Rubberworm123: Don't worry I-Hub T Shark can handle spin things. I mean handle eveything. We have the utmost confidence in him!
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Rubberworm123: BB has to post for me I'm out of posts. Send this first
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IF MINISTERS DONT POST THEY WILL BE SENT TO DETENTION
WHICH IS HELD BY THE MINISTER OF DUNGEONS AND PRISONS. IF HE IS LATE TO WORK, ALL WILL GO TO THE MINISTER OF ELECTROCUTIONS AND HANGINGS. THIS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS. DID I TELL U WE DO HAVE ENTERTAINMENT SUNDAYS AND AFTER HOURS RECREATION TIME? YES WE DO
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T SHARK is our new minister of Smoke, Mirrors & Budget....with that he is required to slave for hours each day making ends meet with only matches and soggy old towels soaked in oil , and a rear view mirror from a 1955 Nash Rambler. Congratulations. Make the Budget what we expect and report daily on the Baby Nano get rich in our short time trip. HAIL VICTORY
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The Minister of Charts has spoken. HAIL VICTORY!!!!
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some ministers have to be hunted down & draged in to post
If we look at the SEC filings, we can get a firm idea of who, within the company and outside the company supporters, is holding what of the 35 million float.
This is including the CEO, Paul, and wife.
This is also including IICP holding NPCT shares.
The total comes to around 24 million shares.
The other shares, I am comfortable knowing where they are. But, I prefer not to elaborate.
And, the remaining shares (let's just say five million), I feel are held by those on this board and other boards and they are getting an idea that this company is really going to strut its stuff this year.
All of that makes for a strong company and strong stock.
Kent
p.s. True, there is a rumored 3 million or greater short position. I consider that added to the float. I would not be surprised that we are holding that tightly as well
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CLOSE $1.74...HAIL BABY NANO'S VICTORY!!!!!!
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FROM KATHY WITH LOVE....INVESTOR TO INVESTOR . COM
Dear Investor to Investor readers:
Please forgive me taking so long to do my long version of the two Las Vegas Conferences: the Schneider Securities, Inc. Research and Investment Banker Conference and the Stock Enterprises, Inc. Investor Conference for NanoPierce Technologies, Inc. I have been stricken with a bad case of bronchitis from all the smoke there and have been spent several long days transcribing my tapes and catching up on some work that got behind while I was away. While I am not yet fully back up to snuff, I have still managed to complete my tape transcriptions and have decided to release the report in two separate newsletters as I finish typing them up. I have transcribed them in chronological order, and also since the Schneider Securities Broker Conference was not open to regular investors, I will report on that one first. Several people have reported on the boards about the Stock Enterprises Investor Conference already, so this one is more of a mystery to investors. I will report on the Investor Conference in a later newsletter.
There were about 60 attendees at the Schneider Securities, Inc. Research and Investment Conference, most were brokers, aside from Paul Metzinger, Cheri Metzinger, Bert Roosen, Kristi Kampmann, Noel Eberhardt, Glen Bagwell, Stan Richards and myself that I am aware of. It was the first presentation of a two day/twelve company conference and we had a full house. Incidentally, NanoPierce was the only over the counter bulletin board company presented at the conference. I did not have a chance to speak with any of the brokers or investment bankers as we left right after the NanoPierce presentation so as not to disturb the presentation following it.
I heard there was a pretty large number of people who enthusiastically questioned Paul Metzinger further about NanoPierce at the cocktail party later in the evening, but I was not there as I hustled down to my room and wrote up the quick report I sent out that afternoon. I did however attend a dinner to celebrate Stan Richards birthday at the Brown Derby in the MGM Grand after the cocktail party which made for a very exciting evening. Everyone was in high spirits and I have a hard copy photo of everyone at the dinner. When I feel up more able I will scout out a place where I can have the photo scanned and put it up on my website for those who are interested in seeing it. It will be a real keepsake not only because of the celebration but because the Brown Derby closed its doors forever that weekend after our dinner. It was a once in a lifetime opportunity for me. The food and service were exquisite.
For those who are interested, no, I do not gamble and did not do so while in Las Vegas, and, no, I did not eat a single all you can eat buffet dinner. Smile.
Kathy Knight-McConnell
Investor to Investor
http://www.investortoinvestor.com
The following is a transcription of the conference which took place at 9am in one of the conference rooms at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas on March 1, 2002. It has been edited slightly to keep safe any information that might be used by competitors against the company. I think the balance of the transcription is pretty accurate, although it was difficult to hear some of the words through the music playing in the background (which was being piped in and couldn’t be tracked down) some one next to me kept coughing, rattling of papers, whispering in the room between the brokers, etc. I have endeavored to make it as accurate as possible.
Transcript of the SCHNEIDER SECURITIES, Inc. RESEARCH AND INVESTMENT BANKER CONFERENCE - Las Vegas, March 1, 2002
The conference started out with a short speech by the President of Schneider Securities, Inc., T.J. O’Rourke. The following is the opening from the Schneider Conference binder as the speech itself was along these lines but much longer:
We wish to welcome all presenters and participants to the Schneider Securities, Inc. Research and Investment Banking Conference. This conference marks our establishment as one of the premier investment banking organizations specializing in emerging growth companies. We believe our track record and list of successful offerings, both private and public, is evidence of our commitment to provide capital to deserving companies and to support these companies as they grow and prosper.
Our past success fuels our desire to become even better, set our sights even higher and continually improve the quality of our work in all phases of the business. As corporate officers, staff, managers, and brokers we realize that our collective success is a critical ingredient to our personal and professional success as well. The bottom line is that all of the above can be summarized into one statement: If we are successful in providing our clients with investment opportunities that make them money, then Schneider Securities as an organization, will also prosper.
The essence of this Conference is to draw us closer to that goal. Unlike other conferences, we do not invite company after company to present to our brokers. It is not our intention at this conference to educate our brokers on dozens of companies that might have investment merit over the next several years. However, it is our objective to present to our brokers what we believe to be the very best investment opportunities in the small cap sector over the next year.
This year we have 12 presenting companies that we believe offer our clients the best opportunity for significant gains in the coming year.
To our presenters, we would like to say “thank you” for your support of this conference and your confidence in Schneider Securities, Inc. This conference will not only provide our brokers with opportunities for their clients, but will also serve as a springboard fro your company to increase investor awareness and attain a higher market capitalization.
Again, we welcome all of the attendees to Las Vegas and hope that you find the opportunities offered at the Conference to be both profitable and enjoyable.
After the opening speech by T.J. O’Rourke, President of Schneider Securities, Inc. and some comments by Rick Seefried, the Spokane Manager, talking about how Schneider Securities was started and what where the principles and goals for the company (of which passion for the work was highly emphasized), there was a half hour presentation by NanoPierce. James Creamer, the analyst who wrote the recent research report on NanoPierce (if you missed it you can read the report at: http://www.investortoinvestor.com/dcforum/cgi-bin/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&omm=223&om=74&a... ) stepped up to the podium to speak about NanoPierce and introduce Paul Metzinger. He said he was a relatively new analyst at Schneider Securities and that he came over from Global Capital Securities. He said he believed there were a lot of fundamental reasons why this small company was going to become a much larger company.
(From here I have transcribed the presentation from my tape recorder starting with Jim Creamer’s Introduction of NanoPierce
Our first presentation here today is our most recent story, NanoPierce Technologies, Inc. I just put a report out last week. I believe this is going to be a real exciting story to watch. I think our timing is real good on this for NanoPierce and Schneider.
Just to give you a quick explanation of what they do. Every microchip has to have an electrical connection to connect the chip to whatever device it’s going to operate on. As these chips get smaller and smaller, and they use different materials like paper and plastic, the connections are becoming more difficult to make, to a point where manufacturers are not going to be able to use the same methods that they’ve used for years and years, at least not in a cost effective manner. And what that leaves them with are some pretty expensive alternatives to try to produce these chips.
NanoPierce has a proprietary connection system that solves all of these issues. It is cost effective. It’s highly conductive, so it doesn’t compromise the performance of the chip. It can be used on a wide variety of surfaces, like paper for instance, and it’s not affected by the size, so when we hit applications are going to be growing substantially over the next several years like smart card technology or smart labels, we think that NanoPierce is in a position where they are going to benefit substantially from that growth.
So with that let me turn you over to Paul Metzinger, the company’s CEO and President, and he can go over it in more detail.
Paul Metzinger stepped up to the podium to a round of applause from the audience and began his presentation as follows:
Thank you for the introduction. It’s my privilege to be here, ladies and gentlemen, to be here this morning on behalf of NanoPierce Technologies. My name is Paul Metzinger. I’m President and Chief Executive Officer of NanoPierce Technologies.
I’m being assisted by the Chief Financial Officer of NanoPierce, Ms. Kristi Kampmann. (He waved in her direction and said, “Why don’t you stand up, kindly?” Which Kristi did for a moment.)
Just to give you some background against this presentation that I’m making here this morning, keep in mind that in December of 1999 we had $38 in the bank, four employees, an office and a research facility in a garage. That is the honest to God truth. So what you see now is going to show you what has happened with a company that is the proprietary holder of a patented micro electronic interconnection system technology that is radically going to change the entire micro electronics industry. We are dealing with most of the global players in every market that we have identified and will present in this presentation.
(Paul asked Kristi to start the slide show of the presentation at this point.)
Just to give you a basic idea of the company today. We have offices in Denver, Colorado, executive offices. There are four employees there. In Colorado Springs, Colorado, we have NanoPierce Connection Systems, a new subsidiary. They are in charge of the WaferPierce application that we will get into. They have about ten employees there. In Hohenbrunn, Germany, under the guidance of Dr. Michael E. Wernle, they have about ten employees there, they are an application development center near Munich. We have just opened a new Exypnotech subsidiary in Rudolstadt, Germany that is going into the manufacture of smart inlays.
Smart inlays are very simple instruments. They are an antenna connected to a chip and they are used in markets that are measured in the billions of units and they are throw-a-ways. They are smart labels.
Taipei, Taiwan is a new office that recently opened. That is another large industry that we are going into with huge applications for what they call light emitting diode arrays that are eventually going to replace all of these lights.
This just gives you a simple explanation of our technology. It is simplicity itself, and I will use an LED (red) light pointer. Right here we take hardened diamond particles metalized with a little metal which is right here. That makes it conductive. If you want to attach something, there is the chip. These leads are on the frame. It looks like this microscopically. What you do is you press down, you put glue and then you press down. Those hardened particles penetrate down through everything, the surface contaminations, oxides, glues, anything, any kind of contamination. And the result is you have an extremely low cost connection because you are eliminating the wire and solder. You apply it at room temperature, you don’t need heat. It is incredibly reliable because you are talking about microscopic particles measured in fifteen to five microns. Your hair is fifty microns wide. We are down to five microns. These things are so hard they penetrate everything.
Highly flexible - we can use it on hard substrates, flexible substrates, etc.
Immediate test ability - that is a huge advantage because it increases throughput and allows you to test the electrical connection the moment it is made.
Here is the big breakthrough! It has outstanding radio frequency characteristics. There is nothing out there that can match it. That is crucially important in the new market of smart labels which we will see are measured in billions and they are used one time and thrown away.
What does that mean to stock brokers? Recurring income.
Here are four large markets, now we have chosen these markets. WaferPierce, smart labels, light emitting diodes and smart cards because they are characterized by simple chips that have six or fewer contacts. They are used in price sensitive instruments and products such as cell phones, smart tags, smart labels, article surveillance devices, etc. The thing we like about it though is its perfect for our technology, because everyone of those strategic markets are measured in consumption of units measured in the billions.
Here is the core technology. We can apply, in an electroless fashion, our technology, which we call NCS technology (NanoPierce Connection System Technology) to the contact pads, those little squares on each chip, and it will go through a process called WaferPierce. Now why is that important? Because you are getting this microscopic micron level connection technology applied to every chip, every contact pad on every chip, through one operation of less than fifteen minutes. It has enormous significance to the industry.
And for those of you who do not know what a wafer looks like. . . this is a wafer. You can all come up and take a look at it later or at the cocktail party. That little wafer there has 15,000 chips on it. There are wafers this big that have a million, and we can coat every contact on every chip in 15 minutes.
Here is a graphic of our technology. Do you see those little contact pads there? This area right here is covered with microscopic particles. So to make the connection, you get chip, you flip it where the contacts are at. This is the substrate, the system you are being connected to. You put down super glue, you press down and you’ve got the connection. You eliminate wire bonding, you eliminate solder, heat and everything that goes with it.
And the capital intensity of the equipment that this replaces is unbelievable. This is all done at room temperature. It’s a huge advantage for us.
Now here is one of the largest markets we’re going after - Smart Labels. It is eventually going to replace all bar code labels that are used in the world.
Here are some of the biggest applications. Right now these four applications - mail, international air transport services, article surveillance, shoplifting, libraries. In 1999 they used 6.5 billion bar codes. We are going to replace those with smart labels. And I’m honored to tell you that we have the world’s most pre-eminent expert in smart label technology, Mr. Noel Eberhardt. Noel, please stand up. He is formerly the director of Motorola’s Bi-Statix smart label product. He’s the man that’s assisting me in penetrating this massive market.
The day will come in less than four years where these unit measurements are going to be upwards of 15 to 20 billion labels a year and they are used once and thrown away. We’re going to get that market.
Smart Cards - Let me show you what a smart card looks like. Here’s a couple of them. Here’s one right here that’s used all over Europe, it’s a telephone card. They load it with currency, stick it in the telephone, you don’t have to carry cash. They’re going to be used everywhere.
National ID cards, phone cards, health cards - In Germany everybody’s got health cards. It’s got all the data contained on the card. You go into the doctor’s office, he’s got a code, you stick it in there (the reader), it’s read, he knows all about you.
Credit cards and transportation - Enormous applications. Now why is that so important? This little nodule you see right here has got a chip behind it and we have the connection technology that allows that thing to be put together without using wire or solder.
On the contactless cards that are coming in the future, they are going to have an antenna connected to that chip. You just walk through the door, it logs you in and out, it does whatever you want it to do. huge market, again, measured in billions of units.
Another large application, LEDs (light emitting diodes) - We have a partner in Taipei, Taiwan, OptoTech Inc., they are the worlds largest manufacturers of LED chips. They make 1.5 billion chips a month and those are used to produce LED arrays.
With our technology, one of our partners in Germany, Elcos, who manufactures LED arrays, can double the density of LEDs on the array, which is about this big, with substantial savings in manufacturing costs.
That market is anticipated to grow to 400 billion in five years.
This is just some generalized information about the company. The market cap’s a little dated because the stock’s gone up again. Good for us. We are happy about it.
By the way, this is an LED die. Those are LEDs in those little flash lights you have there. That market is going to replace every light in this hotel. In five years hotels will no longer have incandescent or flourescent lights, they will have LEDs. The savings are staggering. They take 10% less consumption, they last ten thousand times longer. They operate in every conceivable hostile atmosphere that is imaginable and it has all kinds of correlative benefits. Power consumption would drop so dramatically that Las Vegas could probably get rid of one or two power plants. Just by adopting LEDs, it’s a huge market.
Traffic signal control lights - Every state is switching to them. It’s a big market and we’ve got the best technology out there for creating those LED arrays. A great big market.
Again, to summarize, here are all the benefits that we’ve got with our patented technology and I assure we have developed a marketing plan we call the “Top Five”.
In those four large markets we’ve identified, we are dealing with five of the top players in each market. Those five dominate 90% of those markets. So we only have to knock on a few doors.
I’m going to open the floor to questions briefly and tell everybody that we will be available, I , Noel, and all of the executive officers at the cocktail party. We have passion, okay, we are passionate about what we are doing. We’ve done a lot in a short amount of time and if I could reveal the identities of the companies we are dealing with it would blow your mind. They are now approaching NanoPierce as a strategic investment partner as late as last week. The smallest company that has approached us is about $1 billion and the largest one is $26 billion.
My personal goal is, this year, to put a strategic investment partner in NanoPierce and a large corporate ally who’s got global presence, because we have the opportunity if we play this right, to become a dominant leader in each one of those markets.
This is handout material. (Note: Paul was pointing to a graph from a Prismark report that forecasted 45% high growth rate for flip chip - with what I thought to be a thought provoking and interesting statement lower down on the page - “The projections above assume a lower cost bumping technology will become mainstream to accommodate the low value die applications.”) This graph is what is what they call flip chip, that’s WaferPierce. It is going to grow at the rate of 45% a year for the next ten years. And that same graph will track smart labels.
(Note: About here, while Paul was explaining the WaferPierce process, we were shown an animated film to demonstrate the process. It showed 25 wafers going one by one into the wafer cassette and then the cassette being lowered into the various tank baths used for the NCS electroless deposition.)
(Note: Someone asked, “Can you tell us who the global players are?”, and Paul said, “I wish I could tell you.” Everybody laughed.)
This graphic was designed by my son and it will show you in a graphic manner how we use cassettes to treat 25 wafers, which they call a cassette, and those wafers can be twelve inches or eight inches and they contain up to a one million chips on each wafer. Remember, each one has got to have at least two contact points to conduct electricity. So start putting those numbers together. 25 times 1,000,000 chips times 2*, and we get paid for putting that material on each one of those contact pads.
(* This resulting number would be the highest possible number to be achieved in one cassette as a hypothetical supposition.)
This by the way is in our Colorado Springs facility in operation. We are going commercial with our technology starting both in Germany and Colorado Springs.
These are the chips, there’s the contact pads, and this is a graphic illustration of this on the wafer pad. There’s the contact pad, see?
Someone raised his hand and Paul said, “I’ll take a question.”
Question: “So right now those are soldered, those two contacts right there soldered?”
Paul answered, “Soldered or they use conductive adhesives which are susceptible to a lot of problems.”
Here’s the wafer going into the cassette dish tray, see them following in? It’s a very powerful technology. There it goes through the tank, and, by the way, we built this world class clean room for x amount of dollars, and our thought is, we are going to build one of these plants next to the major wafer fabrication facilities in the world. Next to these huge companies because they don’t want to ship these wafers all over. Some of those wafers cost as much as $30,000, so we are either going to do that, have them ship them into Colorado Springs, or license to the largest companies. Two of these companies we are dealing with require thousands of wafers a week.
There is our step 11, it’s where we put in the little granular hardened particles which are metalized and we are done. That’s the last step (note: except for a final rinse). We get paid for doing that.
By the way, last year worldwide there were 200 million wafers produced, it is projected to go to 500 million in the next four years. If we were to get 10% of that market at (a hypothetical price of) $100 per wafer you can see where the revenue stream is going to come from.
I’ll be happy to stop right now and I’ll be happy to take the time at the cocktail party to speak to everybody if I can. Thank you very much. The man is right about passion. It’s what it is all about. We’ve got it an incredibly passionate and focused team.
(From here came a short Q & A session.)
Question: What are the revenues for the last twelve months?
Paul: We have just gotten into the revenue mode, right now. In June of this year we’re going to start actual commercial shipments of WaferPierce and smart inlays.
Question: What’s your projection for the next twelve months?
Paul: I will not make projections. We have not had enough historical past performance to be able to make reliable predictions, projections at this point. But I will tell you they are going to be very significant. I don’t mean to be evasive, but I think you can understand. We’ve gotten beyond R&D.
Question: Let me rephrase the question. What’s the marketplace out there? What type of, I mean it’s kind of hard when we don’t have any kind of projections of where you are going, give me some kind of idea, how big is the marketplace?
Paul: That’s what I am saying. Let’s take WaferPierce. Last year there were 200 million wafers made worldwide. Now those wafers can have anywhere from 500 chips to 10,000 or 100,000 (or more) it doesn’t make any difference. To put NCS on even 10% of that market, 20 million wafers at today’s alternative bumping process, they call it, where they get paid a hundred dollars for that. That’s a staggering number. It’s 20 million at $100, okay? And you don’t have to take my word for it. There’s the man (pointing at Noel Eberhardt) who will tell you at the cocktail hour what we’ve got and why it’s so cost effective and why it’s the SOLUTION (he emphasized it) for the huge smart label market. We can’t even hardly imagine those numbers, but that’s just one application.
Somebody else had a question?
Question: What’s the competition for your technology?
Paul: Well you’ve got traditional wire bonding, you know, where you solder and melt solder balls and things like that, but just think of it in this humorous way. The smart label is made out of paper. So you can’t really solder paper or use heat on paper. Well we just use super glue and stick the die to the antenna, okay?
And the alternative that’s out there, it’s commercial, it’s called conductive adhesive, and all it is glue filled with little metal balls. So you put that onto the chip and smash it down against the printed circuit board. The problem is, it’s produced by only two companies in the world. It’s incredibly expensive, it tends to short out. It takes minutes to test, so you can spew off five million labels and then find out that they are all bad because you can’t test them right away. And it has horrible RF characteristics.
Now, I’m not putting down our competition. All I’m saying is we’ve solved all those problems and those global players know it.
Question: One other question. If someone were to buy this technology, what would it cost to do this technology versus something else? If someone said, okay, I want you to do this technology, what’s it gonna cost that person to do this?
Paul: (answer deleted due to sensitivity issue with competitors over pricing)
Someone cut in (could have been Noel Eberhardt or Jim Creamer, I couldn’t tell from the tape) and said, “Let me add to that, let me quantify that (words inaudible) but we made some pretty good assumptions on that and what this will allow is a lot of the chip manufacturers to take that manufacturing step out.”
Another voice chimed in and said, “I think that’s probably the issue, is that the reality, like I say, you know that we try to bring things in to these conferences that have a wide range of notions. This is one of those where I think the reality is that there certainly are some issues that are basic economic issues on manufacturing, and cutting the manufacturing costs and putting more chips in a smaller space that really do give cost savings. But the reality is that if this technology does the things they are describing then it really creates applications that you can’t go make unless you’ve got some of this on it.”
Paul: That’s right. Smart labels.
Then again I welcome everybody here to please talk to Noel Eberhardt. He is a worldwide expert in smart label technology and connection technology, not just for smart labels. That’s the expert. He is an independent director of NanoPierce and my personal advisor. So you don’t have to take my word. That man’s been in the industry, Noel, how long? Thirty-five years. He headed up Motorola’s Bi-Statix program, so he speaks based on professional competency, experience and knowledge. So take his word. I’ll be happy to meet you tonight.
Yes?
Question: I have a few questions. How are you being funded today? What’s your balance sheet look like now? And how do you plan to fund the growth?
Paul: Good questions. From 1998, when I started the company, to January of 2000, the funding came from my personal pocket and from the friends and relatives of Stan Richards and Glen Bagwell, my two partners. We put credit cards on the line, I wrote a couple of hundred thousand, more than that, $700,000 into the company to keep it going, until we finally got our funding (bridge financing) in January of 2000. Our balance sheet - debt free, our payables - enough cash to get us through to the end of the year and we’ve got financing coming from several sources. But I will tell you that if we get a certain interested company as strategic investment partner of NanoPierce, we won’t have to go to anybody, any longer, anywhere for money because they are colossal. That’s our plan. My personal goal is to get that done before the end of the year. I think we’re gonna get that done. They know our technology. Where they want to apply it is at the WaferPierce level, because they know that if you can get it onto the contact pads on the chip at the wafer fab, where the wafers are made, you can use it for any application for electronic products in the world..
Question: What size of commitment are you looking for to grow? Do you have any number on that?
Paul: (Paul asked me not to give the number) and I think we’ll get it.
Question: What about Nasdaq? Are you planning to apply?
Paul: Absolutely, the moment we get those people in the stock we will clearly qualify for the Nasdaq.
Question: You got some funding January of 2000. Are you sure they won’t be hitting the market, convertible debentures or. . .?
Paul: Well, there was a subsequent funding that we got involved in October of 2000 that we are now in litigation with. The people we found out, that it was all part and parcel with this great massive scheme involving Thomson Kernaghan and everyone else. We are in litigation with them right now. If, and I’m being totally candid, if we were to lose there could potentially be another 10-12 million shares out there on the market. We think though that we are very confident of our legal position and we believe that we are going to prevail on the merits based on everything we’ve seen to date. We’ve got a powerful law firm representing us, John O’Quinn, on contingency. It could happen, but we don’t think it’s going to and in any event its not going to happen for probably two or three years. We do not expect it to go to trial before then. Okay?
We were told by one very large investment banking firm who represents the second large company that approached us that if their client invests in NanoPierce as a strategic partner, that overhang, worst case scenario, wouldn’t make any difference because the stock would be strong anyway.
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i used the stars to guide me at night in foreign lands under very harsh and unpleasant circumstances, to say the least. why would i not utilize the cosmos in other aspects of my existence? the planets, moons, stars can influence the turning of the earth, the oceans tides and what else. i dont know for sure, but, iam certainly not going to put on blinders and turn my back to that which i am not fully knowledable about. you only stop learning when you reach room tempature. dont close your eyes, unless it is to dream. HAIL VICTORY!!! BABY NANO!!!
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Stores have eyes. Now they're getting ears and brains. Soon tiny wireless chips stuck on shampoo bottles and jeans will track all that you wear and buy.
The future is under construction at a Sam's Club in suburban Tulsa, Okla., but you can't see or hear it. Microchips inside cases of Mach 3 razors and All detergent continually and silently alert wireless sensors that the goods have just arrived at the loading-dock doors. More sensors built into store shelves alert staffers when a product needs replenishment.
It is the ultimate in inventory management: No hand-counting necessary--just let the chips speak up to vouch that every unit ordered has indeed arrived, on time and intact. In ten years most every consumer item, from jeans to dish soap, will probably bear a tiny chip that continually broadcasts its existence to radio-frequency readers at loading docks, store shelves, entrances and parking lots--just about everywhere.
Much as the humble bar code helped companies understand what they were selling, these new tags, which bear a unique number known as an electronic product code, will let businesses track what customers are buying. The chips contain no more information than a bar code does, but they eliminate the manual labor of scanning. This summer the Sam's Club in Tulsa will begin testing chips on individual items, such as packs of Caress soap. Consumer-product makers figure they'll tag cases of goods within two years, pricey items like shampoo within four years and everything they make within a decade.
The benefits to manufacturers include far fewer wasteful inventory glitches and, for retailers, lower shoplifting losses. Procter & Gamble's goal is to use the intelligence provided by the tags to cut its inventory by 40%, or $1.5 billion. P&G's preliminary analysis is that they could lop 4 cents off the dollar in every transaction.
And once these radio-frequency ID chips are ubiquitous, more advanced uses are expected to emerge, making retailers omniscient about every product moving through the supply chain. Prada, the Italian luxury goods designer, is attaching Texas Instruments chips to each $700 handbag, pair of sleek spike heels and slinky dress in its glam new boutique in New York's Soho district. When customers hang their selections in the dressing room, the chips activate a flat-panel video screen to play clips of models wearing those items, as well as a video of designer Miuccia Prada discussing suggestions for accessories.
Much of this new work is under way at the two-year-old AutoID Center at MIT, which has $9 million in research funding from a consortium of big companies and government agencies, including Pepsi, Johnson & Johnson, UPS and the Department of Defense. Kevin Ashton, the Procter & Gamble exec who heads the center, foresees RFID leading to complete automation of data collection. ''We need an 'Internet-for-things', a standardized way for computers to understand the real world,'' says Ashton.
Radio chips have long been used to tag livestock and are immensely successful in highway toll-gathering schemes. ExxonMobil's SpeedPass wireless payment system allows drivers to pay by waving a key-chain fob next to the pump. It has already enlisted 6 million drivers.
New networks will benefit from smaller and cheaper chips, more powerful and less expensive radio receivers and smarter software to interpret the data. Alien Technology, a Morgan Hill, Calif. chip company, is developing chips the size of a piece of glitter for MIT. Alien uses chemicals to etch ultrafine perforations into a silicon wafer. The resulting shards, suspended in a solution, are poured down a sloped surface covered by a dimpled plastic film. As the tiny blocks tumble down the slope, gravity pulls them into micropores.
Paired with a small antenna, the chips broadcast on an unlicensed frequency near the FM band, with a range of a few inches to several yards. SAP and Sun are among the vendors working on the software and servers needed to transform the chip data into a useful form. Eventually the information will feed into the databases companies already maintain to track their inventory.
The Star City Casino in Sydney, Australia installed the tags on 80,000 employee uniforms in 1997 to stop them from disappearing. Its system has cut the replacement rate in half, to less than 10%, says Ginsburg, a partner at Accenture (nyse: ACN - news - people), which designed the system.
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FILTHY STINKING RICH....HAIL VICTORY! BABY NANO!!!!
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Trekkie999,that is exactly why you were drafted. Go Gettem. HAIL VICTORY. BABY NANO LIVES!!
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AND the moon does not affect the oceans tides and this hair on my face during a full moon is just happenstance. Live Long and Prosper.
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Lie LOw Joe Money. I came from OUtter Space. I come in Peace. You are talking to the Minister of Peace. Wanna lose your Ministership? REspect the differences in this our culture and especially be good to Trekkie999, if you dont care to be turned into a plastic like substance. HAIL VICTORY
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Trev just said it is time for a TEST. get your pencils out.
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At the IMAPS International Conference and Exhibition on Advanced Packaging and Systems (ICAPS) in Reno this week, there were several interesting papers on wafer thinning, continuing to establish this as the hot topic in packaging for 2002. Christine Kallmayer (Fraunhofer IZM, Berlin) covered many topics in her presentation, including a ''dicing by thinning'' process that can actually increase the number of ICs on a wafer.
Kallmayer, a recent winner of the IEEE Engineer of the Year Award, described Fraunhofer IZM's solution for dicing wafers that have been thinned for applications such as smart cards. The dicing by thinning approach consists of etching trenches into the top side of the silicon between the chips, and then thinning the wafer from the backside. The thinning process consists of grinding away the bulk of the wafer, followed by spin etching and then chemical-mechanical planarization to remove the backside stress. The thinning process removes enough silicon that the trenches etched into the top side are reached, and the chips become singulated.
The real key to this process though is the narrow trench that is possible with the dry etching process. Kallmayer showed results with a trench just 7 microns wide and 38 microns deep. She compared this to a partial saw cut that was 40 microns wide. If the wafer is designed with the dry etching process in mind, the chips can be placed closer together, and with small ICs especially, this can be a big benefit. Kallmayer said that with small (0.5 mm square) chips, there can be 40 percent more ICs per wafer. When is the last time that a back-end process INCREASED wafer yield by 40 percent?
The etching process for singulation also allows arbitrarily shaped chips. Initially, this meant rounded corners on chips to decrease the stress in the chip, but it can also be used to make hexagonal chips for example. Kallmayer showed exactly that. I can't picture the benefit of that at the moment, but I'm sure that someone out there can put this capability to a good use.
-Jeffrey C. Demmin, Editor-in-Chief
(March 13)
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i predict that if we get news, just about any news, this baby is wound so tight, that it will be up up up and away. There are just not enough shares out there to feed us all and, most of us are holding tight to what we have, or adding. accumulating, and accumulating on the cheap. well, on the cheap wont last forever, not with some news. now, i propose tomorrow will do well. when will we have news? dont know....but, the market says it is coming
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well come on RW, spill the beans, say all. speak worm, speak
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What I like about this board is...The posters are better lookin
than the ones on the other boards. Remember, I am usually posting from a sunny beachside cafe, where Bikini's abound and, Muscle Beach has nothing on this place.....so, I am saying alot about the stock posters that have arrived on this thread. Welcome and give yourselves a hand. clap clap clap clap
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Trekkie999 & PsymanSr, you have been drafted into ministries. Please pay attention to your duties daily and post till your typing fingers bleed green. Then you will both know you have become Vulcans. HAIL VICORY!!!!
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yeah, rw, if i had not told u we were running, it might not have stopped til 10 bucks. it was my fault. i told you and it halted. should have kept my trap shut.
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are you looking for appointment as the minister of space and the final frontier? you certainly know how to do it right. talk to our minister of bribes and payola, we have room for space cadets and especially people such as myself that have the lines memorized from the original series. iam attempting to talk in short sentences, with words no more than four letters (oops) and one sylable. i already know how to spell.
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bird of prey. no problem here. sounds like you are being conservative and cautious with a bb stock. playing it safe with bb stocks is always advised, except for those of us that love the high wire act. this is probably the most secure and 'for sure' bb stock i have ever been involved in. most of them are very speculaative and 'plays' more than investments. this is an investment. big difference. bb
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glad u made it back. lots happen when u leave town. so that was u they were dragging off the pier. do tell. debtors prison is still big here and maddog runs it too. now, as for ministries, they are filling up fast. lots of responsibility to them. post, be happy and remember, you WILL become filthy stinking rich. we are all half way there already.
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I have always like primates....
I think it is important to note that in regard to financing he stated "which is largely comitted"
This certainly implies in my mind that, once we start delivering in June/July and the company, who has largely commited, has incorporated our shipments into their production process with success then with that milestone acheived the financing/Industry giant investment into Nanopierce will
be consumated...
We could be looking at October/November in the mean time we will be billing for the roduct shipped for marginal revenues.
Lets see at 1% market penetration or 2,000,000 wafers at 1/3 the current bumping fee of $100/wafer or $30/wafer
We see revenue of $60,000,000 and WAG of 25% net profit to Nanopierce we have earnings of $15,000,0000 divided by 60mil shares outstanding results in a EPS of .25/sh and PE of 30 resulting in a share price of $7.50
now multiply that by 10 for a 10% market penetation and we are looking at a $75 stock !!!!!!!!!!!! with at least 40% of the market yet to be captured( assuming we dont get 100%)
And this is only the Waferpierce portion of the NCS application
we are still looking at LEDS, Smart Inlays,etc.
Is there anybody out there that can shoot holes in this analysis?
The variables are:
a.percentage of market penetration
b. Fee charged per wafer
c. net income %
d. Shares outstanding
e. PE
f. Market uphoria
g. terms of industry financing (it does not come free)
(this is compliments of Primate Joe from I2I, where a positive outlook will get you thru the day with a smile)
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