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Unfortunately, Nothing From CRYFQ Confirms Shareholder Support...
Although, CRYFQ site shows oodles of hope and promise.
Hope and rumor that Crystallex will win ICSID.
Very likely and should happen. Solid case.
Definitely takes care of Management, Bondies and Tenor.
Lots of rumors that private trades can happen.
A bit of DD and the truth is revealed...
Revoked shares cannot be issued certs for trading.
SEC, FINRA, DTCC never would not allow certs issued.
Even if one could, cert fees are crazy.
Anyone get their certs since being revoked?
Thought so. So much for that rumor.
Hope and rumor CRYFQ scuttles themselves...,
...then CRYFQ shares proceeds with shareholders.
Doubtful. Too much big bucks involved.
Shareholders don't even get a half glass now.
Only reason a company voluntarily terminates SEC registration...
Certainly not because CRYFQ supports shareholders.
To hide from the prying eyes of the SEC and shareholders.
When all is done and time - a long time - has passed, ...
Unlikely any proceeds to share with bagholders.
Hope. Not the best investment strategy.
Number Never Was Real. Plus, Rented Rooms to Family...
Company income amounts to four/five minimum wage workers.
Oil company in Arizona? In a private residence near a golf course?
Lots of red flags with this one.
EFIR, Version 2.0
Creds for the good calls, by the way.
Great Second Q Earnings
MNVN Final Trade Today of 900K @ 0.005...
Time & Sales
Price Size Mkt Time
$0.005 900,000 OTO 15:41:09
$0.005 40,000 OTO 15:40:12
$0.0054 10,000 OTO 15:39:37
$0.0055 50,000 OTO 15:11:03
$0.0074 10,000 OTO 15:10:17
$0.0055 10,000 OTO 15:05:56
$0.0055 10,000 OTO 15:05:26
$0.007 20,000 OTO 14:17:59
$0.0075 16,000 OTO 14:17:57
$0.0075 90,000 OTO 14:17:46
$0.0074 44,000 OTO 14:17:39
$0.0075 96,000 OTO 13:48:39
$0.0075 5,000 OTO 13:42:39
$0.0065 20,000 OTO 13:02:24
$0.007 10,000 OTO 12:55:11
$0.0074 58,500 OTO 12:51:56
$0.007 10,000 OTO 12:51:17
$0.007 6,000 OTO 12:44:31
$0.0065 10,000 OTO 12:30:04
$0.0065 40,000 OTO 12:29:31
$0.007 5,000 OTO 12:12:04
$0.0065 10,000 OTO 12:04:08
$0.0065 10,000 OTO 12:03:37
$0.0065 10,000 OTO 11:58:26
$0.0065 20,000 OTO 11:58:09
$0.0065 10,000 OTO 11:57:16
$0.007 10,000 OTO 11:55:05
$0.006 1,000 OTO 11:54:00
$0.007 5,000 OTO 11:48:04
$0.006 30,000 OTO 11:46:12
OUCH! Probably That MNVN Income Disclosure...
Amounting to, what?... four or five minimum wage workers?
And company officers make what?
No wonder the phoney company contact phone number.
Double OUCH!
Time & Sales
Price Size Mkt Time
$0.005 40,000 OTO 11:04:11
$0.005 30,000 OTO 10:59:36
$0.004 224,000 OTO 10:58:46
$0.004 10,000 OTO 10:57:48
$0.004 20,000 OTO 10:57:39
$0.005 10,000 OTO 10:56:56
$0.0051 50,000 OTO 10:56:47
$0.0051 20,000 OTO 10:56:39
$0.0051 30,000 OTO 10:56:34
$0.0075 26,100 OTO 10:56:03
$0.0075 10,000 OTO 10:55:54
$0.0099 30,000 OTO 10:33:59
$0.009 50,000 OTO 10:33:47
$0.0099 20,000 OTO 10:33:21
$0.0075 5,000 OTO 10:27:13
$0.0099 10,000 OTO 10:26:34
$0.0051 30,000 OTO 10:15:14
$0.006 200,000 OTO 10:08:52
$0.0101 10,000 OTO 10:03:35
$0.0105 120,000 OTO 10:02:05
$0.0105 140,000 OTO 10:01:49
$0.0112 10,000 OTO 10:01:33
$0.0122 18,000 OTO 09:53:30
$0.0121 18,000 OTO 09:41:19
$0.013 10,000 OTO 09:39:58
$0.013 10,000 OTO 09:38:45
$0.013 10,000 OTO 09:38:17
$0.013 10,000 OTO 09:37:35
Another MNVN 350k Dump After Close, Like Yesterday...
Time & Sales
Price Size Mkt Time
$0.0165 350,000 OTO 16:01:49
$0.028 500 OTO 15:48:26
$0.0162 100,000 OTO 15:47:26
$0.016 50,000 OTO 15:46:51
$0.016 40,000 OTO 15:46:16
$0.024 10,000 OTO 15:44:57
$0.028 500 OTO 15:41:38
$0.015 0 OTO 15:40:06
$0.0178 10,000 OTO 15:32:14
$0.018 18,000 OTO 15:31:50
$0.018 40,000 OTO 15:21:11
$0.016 10,000 OTO 15:16:38
$0.016 50,000 OTO 15:16:25
$0.016 17,000 OTO 15:08:31
$0.02 500 OTO 15:02:44
$0.017 20,000 OTO 14:59:03
$0.02 5,000 OTO 14:58:51
$0.02 60,000 OTO 14:58:39
$0.025 500 OTO 14:53:53
$0.022 10,000 OTO 14:50:36
$0.028 50,000 OTO 14:35:59
$0.028 1,000 OTO 12:27:50
$0.0163 356,000 OTO 07/25
$0.028 500 OTO 07/25
$0.018 25,000 OTO 07/25
$0.02 31,000 OTO 07/25
$0.028 5,000 OTO 07/25
$0.028 2,500 OTO 07/25
$0.016 8,000 OTO 07/25
$0.0161 22,000 OTO 07/25
Difficult to reply to when always being deleted...
Your speculation on the gtgp deletions is correct.
Unfortunate that someone has to "act out" for whatever reason.
Have a good one and hope future picks you make work out well.
No One to Blame About Suspension/Greys Except JF...
GTGP pump Hunan Kidiot redefinition damaging big time.
Corinne now absent in the latest GTGP Sunbiz annual report submittal.
Showing up for free open house cookies does not mean contracts.
Funny, JF nowhere to be seen in pics of the "big open house."
Now, why would that be?
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Maybe Busy With the Sunbiz Annual Report Submittal?...
Which conspicuously omits Corinne for 2013.
Corinne had been listed since the 2005 report.
Now why would that be?
Link to Sunbiz GTGP annual report links at bottom of page...
http://search.sunbiz.org/Inquiry/CorporationSearch/SearchResultDetail/EntityName/domp-p04000099801-603b1dad-f79f-4b84-a425-e0982b31bdc6/global%20technologies/Page1
Looking Into FY2014Q1, Still Nothing For GTGP...
Y-12 shows nothing.
UCOR/Oak Ridge shows nothing.
No MBS contracts there.
Existing cement/power plants...
...in compliance of mandated requirements using PAC tech.
New cement/power plants will also comply with PAC tech.
So, no MBS contracts there either.
More and more zero volume days.
Reality bites.
Not that it will help GTGP shareholders, but maybe J3'll get a contract cleaning up some of the mining mess in Butte. After all, the Headframe is most conspicuous on the J3 site.
JF continues to be incommunicado.
Now why would that be?
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I am in no way compensated for my opinion or my posts on this site. I have no "secret agenda" or personal gain that can be materialized from the act and method of my postings. Am simply a concerned, "outside" interest with appropriate knowledge and information that, I feel, may be helpful. I provide this information and related opinions of my own free will, and without direction of any person, company or entity. My motive is to educate those that may not have the background, knowledge, means or access to this information. My personal desire is to gain additional knowledge and understanding of the topics discussed. I am compelled to educate and help offset the continued barrage of misleading and obscured information that I have identified here. No ill will, malice, defamation, or slander is intended in any way. All literary creativity utilized in my posts are intended as a vehicle to express my opinions. I am always open to mature discussions of substance and encourage rebuttal and enlightenment. My sincere apologies to anyone that is disturbed by the revelations of fact that I may convey, in the recent past or in the future.
Looking Pretty Good for GNGR Today...
Concerned a bit about the spread, bid seems lagging.
Still, looks good at this point.
GLTA
The Same, Or Almost Identical Post...
...is allowed twice within a calendar day.
More than twice in a calendar day is then considered spam,
...and deletable upon complaint to admin.
Too Bad For All Those GTGP Losses...
Throwing good money after bad over hope?
At least there is that...Hope.
GTGP promo because j3 changes their share numbers?
Maybe the latest promo will regain a portion of those losses.
Enjoyed j3's news, on the j3 site, of their office opening.
Not one mention of GTGP in the article j3 selected.
Now, why would that be?
Battelle's kibosh of MBS gums up the promo gears.
FY2013 ending on the 90 day outlook.
Nothing for GTGP at ORNL... Nothing at Y-12.
Cement/Energy plants continue to use PAC technology.
All confirmed by factual DD in message 91090...
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=88293527
Thanks for all of the attention dearest friend.
Disclaimer:
I am in no way compensated for my opinion or my posts on this site. I have no "secret agenda" or personal gain that can be materialized from the act and method of my postings. Am simply a concerned, "outside" interest with appropriate knowledge and information that, I feel, may be helpful. I provide this information and related opinions of my own free will, and without direction of any person, company or entity. My motive is to educate those that may not have the background, knowledge, means or access to this information. My personal desire is to gain additional knowledge and understanding of the topics discussed. I am compelled to educate and help offset the continued barrage of misleading and obscured information that I have identified here. No ill will, malice, defamation, or slander is intended in any way. All literary creativity utilized in my posts are intended as a vehicle to express my opinions. I am always open to mature discussions of substance and encourage rebuttal and enlightenment. My sincere apologies to anyone that is disturbed by the revelations of fact that I may convey, in the recent past or in the future.
In CCAA, Company Would Never Show True Motive...
Especially if the true intent is to ultimately go belly-up.
Doubt that would really be their true intention anyway.
It's all for show, and to slowly bleed arb proceeds towards themselves.
Dissolution, liquidation, winding-up, etc. immediately after arb proceeds collection would be the only, at this time, absolute way for commons to benefit from this disaster. But, that cannot be noted outright in CCAA.
And, there is no indication that would ever happen.
Nothing to prevent Crystallex from taking the arb proceeds, start anew.
A company reorg in CCAA easily gets rid of old shareholders.
US commons were finished by the SEC.
Canadians may still receive some benefit.
Crystallex has about $20MM available under the new DIP.
Unknown when they might run out of currently available cash.
Management outlines their MIP. Tenor is covered.
Bondies are secure. All outright and readily noted.
Simple process for the BOD to indicate a special commons distribution upon arb proceeds collection.
Yet, it is not done or considered. Interesting.
Does Not Matter Percent Retained if Can't Trade...
The company has to go out of business for commons to benefit (PDF Page 162, Motion Page 154). So, commons cashing out while unable to trade will be difficult, at best. Especially for revoked US holders. There has yet to be any indication from the company of any such plan(s) to scuttle themselves, or the BOD signing off a special distribution for commons upon arbitration proceeds collection, which costs the company nothing. Until that happens, the shares are realistically worthless.
New Motion by Crystallex Posted by Monitor...
Seems they heard you.
Motion to:
Nothing about ousting shareholders. Hey, better than that 1% prediction.
Stay to Dec. 31, 2014. One year auto-renew afterwards.
Increased compensation to Oppie (Probably a personal favorite).
Tenor increases principle loan another $11 large.
Tenor gets another ~15% of ICSID arb proceeds for the $11 large.
(additional proceeds earned once any additional principle is drawn)
No need for any CCAA Plan of Arrangement/Compromise.
Bondies get increased interest for allowing one-year Stays.
Unsure if Bondies get arb proceeds compensation. Doubt it.
Although, lots of the agreement is considered "confidential."
Nearing 50% arb proceeds for Tenor Cooperatief. For $47 large.
Better than 1% per million loaned. Plus, killer interest rate.
Then there is the MIP, 5% arb proceeds for management before.
Another possible 5% arb proceeds this go-around.
So, a touch over 40-45% left, after loan payouts.
And, lots of time left.
Interesting Theory, Hope it Works Out for Y'all...
Overcoming belief and hope is tough, when married to a stock.
Tenor and Bondies don't want/need shares of Crystallex.
They'll be taking some percentage of the ICSID award.
Just like Management and Tenor have already set it up.
US holders own worthless shares of Crystallex.
SEC Section 12(j) makes that quite clear.
Canadians holders may have a reasonable chance.
Realistically, CCAA regulations and history not on their side.
Once On That Slippery Slope, After AMEX Warnings...
Crystallex hit the Tri-Vecta -- Delisted, Suspended, Revoked.
Always trying to negotiate with Bondies, for more bucks to blow, Crystallex eventually found a willing lender in Tenor. Tenor has their tentacles woven into Crystallex, working out a substantial portion of potential ICSID award. Now it seems Tenor is the new Bondies, a lender ya luv ta hate. Well, maybe not hated by the unwitting advocates of Crystallex.
Now, still spending money like drunken sailors, Crystallex did what any company on the slippery slope to oblivion would... managed to get their US shareholdings revoked. Despite the suspension, it was an SEC "mistake" according to the Crystallex advocates. So, the SEC Suspension Warning went unheeded by many retail, preferring to consume the hopium washed down with KoolAid. Now revoked, advocates talk of being able to trade revoked shares privately. SEC would disagree with that, but the hopium is mighty potent here.
Good to see you pop in Bob.
Stay Extension Posted by Monitor, Link Not Working...
http://documentcentre.eycan.com/eycm_library/Project%20Gem%5CEnglish%5CCourt%20Orders%5CCCAA%20Orders%5CCrystallex.pdf
Looks like Order dated, May 28.
Extension was to go to 31st.
Seems odd.
Arrived early for their SEC revocation.
Arrived early for another court extension.
Satterfield Recently Made Presentation at Orlando Last Month...
...with same title. Known of this presentation for a while.
MBS not mentioned. Only PAC. Satterfield is with Cabot Norit.
Cabot Norit has absolutely no need for MBS. They use current tech.
Cabot Norit is a large industry provider of the solution - PAC.
Industry getting in compliance with available PAC based tech.
This DD is in a stickie above, and easily verifiable.
The presentation was at the 2013 IEEE-IAS PCA Cement Conference.
Mid-April 2013, the 55th Cement Industry Technical Conference.
PCA is Portland Cement Association. Good place to spread the word.
Neither GTGP, nor partners, attended as presenter(s)/exhibitor(s).
Another failed GTGP opportunity to get the word out.
Although, industry already knows Battelle put the kibosh on MBS.
J3 Racking up that advertising dollar debt to GTGP.
Not sure for what. J3 keeps missing available opportunities.
Disclaimer:
I am in no way compensated for my opinion or my posts on this site. I have no "secret agenda" or personal gain that can be materialized from the act and method of my postings. Am simply a concerned, "outside" interest with appropriate knowledge and information that, I feel, may be helpful. I provide this information and related opinions of my own free will, and without direction of any person, company or entity. My motive is to educate those that may not have the background, knowledge, means or access to this information. My personal desire is to gain additional knowledge and understanding of the topics discussed. I am compelled to educate and help offset the continued barrage of misleading and obscured information that I have identified here. No ill will, malice, defamation, or slander is intended in any way. All literary creativity utilized in my posts are intended as a vehicle to express my opinions. I am always open to mature discussions of substance and encourage rebuttal and enlightenment. My sincere apologies to anyone that is disturbed by the revelations of fact that I may convey, whether in the recent past or in the future.
Good Post. Seems Lots of Potential Here.
Halted Pending News?
Dilution of What? Revoked Stock?...
Sure, those revoked shares might be considered, "unregistered."
But, not by the SEC.
The major thing - being REVOKED - means cancelled and worthless.
Know of any revoked shares coming back to benefit holders?
Revoked shares never get, "re-registered," by reorganized companies.
The Crystallex revoked shares are cancelled, gone, worthless.
Sure, there are claims that private trades can happen. But, the claimers will need the physical certificate ($500 plus crazy pass through fees), and then there are the trade fees for manual handling such a purported private trade, which are just as crazy...
"... the clearing of these positions can carry significant pass-through charges to settle the trade. Trades in these securities may carry with them some or all of the following pass-through charges: Execution Fee-$7.50, DTC Fee-$80.00, Deposit Fee-$75.00, and a New York Window Fee of $34.00. Additional pass-through fees from Transfer Agents ranging from $25.00 to $500.00 can also be associated with these securities."
So, the purported private trading of the worthless paper is possible.
Yep, broker/dealers take the money of willing traders, even for worthless paper.
However, claimers have to find a broker/dealer willing to break SEC regulations.
Crystallex will issue new equity in CCAA Plan of Arrangement/Compromise.
The rumors of revoked shares still having any value or worth, is hopium.
One last time for Crystallex to "punk" shareholders.
Yes, strange. Is it a concern?
Gonna have to teach me those ninja JCDS bidding techniques.
GTGP DD: MBS NOT Economically Viable, Accountant/Auditor? Contracts?...
GTGP has a significant number of red flags. GTGP is high risk (possible revoke coming), unknown reward (benefit unknown) for potential investors.
Battelle Says MetalliFix/IFS-2C (MBS) Not Economically Viable
Solucorp's IFS-2C is a derivative of MBS-plus-binder.
Same as the MBS/WL770 combo currently promoted by GTGP. Anyway,
Acorn Energy/CoaLogix disclosure in their March 2010 10K here:
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/880984/000114420410014862/v177974_10k.htm
Acorn Energy/CoaLogix 8k for material impairment here:
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/880984/000114420409067093/v170302_8k.htm
Key sentence from the 8K filing: "On December 18, 2009, Battelle issued its assessment that MetalliFix is not economically viable and not competitive with other commercial products for mercury control that are currently available."
Battelle's determination strongly implies MBS not economically viable.
When Battelle determines something, the industry listens.
Makes sense why there are no MBS contracts in the industry.
"Hot Run" Really Significant?
Read the, "hot run," report closely, and MBS is a minor player.
Seems PAC does most of the work, and MBS is just an additive.
MBS is only around 9-17% of the mix. PAC is not replaced.
Albermarle developed brominated PAC for regulatory compliance.
Brominated PAC is just as, if not more, efficient as MBS.
At significantly less cost than MBS for mercury removal.
Another reason there are no MBS contracts in the industry.
Claims of Cement Plant & Power Plant Contracts
Older plants readily comply using available technlogy.
This is outlined in the EPA regulations.
Many older plants are already in compliance of newer standards.
Newer plants easily comply with available tech and are doing so.
This was also outlined in the EPA regulations.
Albermarle, Siemens, Calgon leading the way to compliance.
SEC Awaits GTGP Accountant/Auditor
Accountant/Auditor Filing Required, See Section 4.01:…
http://www.sec.gov/investor/pubs/readan8k.pdf
SEC Still Requires Financial Filings From GTGP... AND,
There MUST be an SEC 8k announcing auditor/accountant doing fins.
No GTGP filing strongly indicates fins are NOT BEING WORKED ON.
No Y-12/ORNL/UCOR GTGP Contracts
Currently Nothing for GTGP on the ORNL/UCOR 90 Day Outlook:
http://info.ettp.energy.gov/90day/index.html
Also, currently nothing for GTGP through Y-12:
http://www.y12.doe.gov/suppliers/procurement/subcontracting/subcontracting-forecasts/y-12-forecast
No “secret” clean-up contracts awarded with US Gov’t funds.
US Gov't requires full disclosure and transparency of contracts.
Above links provide Gov't mandated disclosure & transparency.
Any Gov't contract takes time, maybe years for award - After RFP.
Sequestration, Furloughs.
US Government sequestration forces scaling back with furloughs on all government services. Same for contracted out services, including remediation work at ORNL/Y-12 and other sites throughout the country. Some DD shows the ORNL/Y-12 remediation budget request is smaller than last fiscal year. ARRA funds are gone. Despite local politician saber rattling to speed up the process, efforts to clean up the mess at ORNL, as well as other sites, will continue - but cut-backs will slow progress until the sequestration situation is resolved.
PR Claims Should Always be Third-Party Verified
In 2011, GTGP/EMHI floated a PR that stated MSE-TA would do a presentation about MBS/WL. The presentation never happened. Was this a lie? Maybe. Maybe not. Things always change in the world of pinks/greys. Strongly suggest to always verify any PR claim through a third party, or outside source. Be aware that J3 is NOT a third party to GTGP. Be suspicious of vague PR's that can be interpreted in numerous ways. A rule of thumb is to, "Trust, but verify." Fact is, much can be, “read into,” vague PR’s. If the PR does not outright say something being claimed, don't expect optimistic interpretations to happen.
Rumors, Rumors, Rumors
Rumors of J3 as something for GTGP holders to cling to.
Recall the rumored GTHI divvies, reverse merger, etc., etc.?
Same now being rumored about J3. So, lots of questions...
Why was J3 not outright made part of GTGP?
Why form a new company when GTGP or GTHI could be used?
Why no detailed disclosure of GTGP's J3 relationship?
What can J3 do for GTGP? Seems this one can be answered.
J3 can bill GTGP for work performed.
Makes GTGP the debtor company. Not exactly shareholder friendly.
Plus, J3 lists numerous services completely unrelated to MBS.
Partnerships, Agreements, Joint Ventures, License Rights, etc.
There have been no detailed disclosures about GTGP partnerships, or agreements, or joint ventures, or license rights, etc. etc. Seems, at best, GTGP is merely a middle-man reseller of MBS, with an unknown commission. Shareholders are always last in line for company profit. The numerous partnerships & agreements & licenses with numerous companies (M2 Polymer, Solucorp, East Morgan, J3, GTHI, maybe others) will receive their chunk of the GTGP contract pie profit first.
Again, Large Risk with revocation possible.
Undisclosed and unknown shareholder reward.
Disclaimer:
I am in no way compensated for my opinion or my posts on this site. I have no "secret agenda" or personal gain that can be materialized from the act and method of my postings. Am simply a concerned, "outside" interest with appropriate knowledge and information that, I feel, may be helpful. I provide this information and related opinions of my own free will, and without direction of any person, company or entity. My motive is to educate those that may not have the background, knowledge, means or access to this information. My personal desire is to gain additional knowledge and understanding of the topics discussed. I am compelled to educate and help offset the continued barrage of misleading and obscured information that I have identified here. No ill will, malice, defamation, or slander is intended in any way. All literary creativity utilized in my posts are intended as a vehicle to express my opinions. I am always open to mature discussions of substance and encourage rebuttal and enlightenment. My sincere apologies to anyone that is disturbed by the revelations of fact that I may convey, in the recent past or in the future.
Not That it Matters, Probably Meant 0.0009?...
GTGP Highs, Lows, etc. can be viewed here...
http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=historical&symbol=GTGP
Date........Open...High...Low..Close.Volume.Adj Close
2013/04/02 0.0024 0.040 0.0024 0.020 20,755 0.020
2013/05/01 0.0050 0.040 0.0050 0.040 2,804 0.040
Yes, Under OTC Markets Guidlines That's GG Option...
There is now a "Yield" sign on GNGR.
OTC Pink Limited Information
OTC Markets is not a regulatory agency.
Explanation from the OTC Markets site...
Designed for companies with financial reporting problems, economic distress, or in bankruptcy to make the limited information they have publicly available.
The OTC Pink Limited Information® category also includes companies that may not be troubled, but are unwilling to meet the OTC Pink Basic Disclosure Guidelines. Companies in this category have limited financial information not older than six months available on the OTC Disclosure & News Service or have made required filings on the SEC's EDGAR system in the previous six months.
Fuse Web Site Has the Link:...
http://ir.stockpr.com/fusescience/conference-calls
Thanks. Still Trying to Piece This System Together...
I know I keep asking time and again, so I appreciate your patience.
Understand that removed from CNS means shares cannot be electronically cleared and settled.
But, trade for trade sounds like shares might still tradeable, maybe with physical certificates?
Could physical certificates be obtained while removed from CNS?
This concerns Crystallex (fka CRYFQ) shares. Recently revoked.
PM claims of shares being tradeable privately.
Yes, likely amongst themselves, and not in a market.
Callers saying IR claims the company will re-register the shares in the future. No company public PR or filing of such a claim.
So, the holders feel shares still have value.
Claim is that shares are merely unregistered.
Like shares before an IPO.
I have always thought that revoked shares became worthless.
When dealing with these, imo, wild claims, I want to be able to explain why shares removed from CNS services, such as the CRYFQ revoked shares, are actually worthless.
What Does Trade-for-Trade Mean?...
Sounds like trading is still possible?
Is getting shares cleared the sticking point?
Is This a Chill, or a Global Lock?...
www.dtcc.com/downloads/legal/imp_notices/2013/nscc/otc/OTC-082.pdf
At the bottom, the red footnote:
"NOTE: ALL SEC 12J SUSPENSIONS WILL BE REMOVED FROM CNS ELIGIBILITY."
The SEC 12J Suspended outfits are removed from CNS eligibility.
Does that make it a Global Lock or Chill on the shares?
I'm still trying to get all of the terms straight.
Have read the stickies, and much of the links within those.
Several questions:
In the above link, the "DELETE" group, not a SEC 12J Suspension, what is going on with them? Chill, or Global Lock, or disappear?
What prevents private trading - Chill/GlobalLock/both?
I read that fees on private trades can also really add up.
Getting physical certificates - Stopped by Chill/GlobalLock/both?
I read something about the physical stock certificate fee is $500 as of last September? Where do those charges come from?
Does DTCC (and affiliates) service only US based stocks, or are they providing for Canadian (maybe other countries) stocks?
Thank you for helping me understand this trading system.
Lot more to it than what is seen on the surface.
Not So Sure About Location Meaning Nothing...
Shipping costs and import tax/fees can take a chunk out of foreign profits, to assist a domestic, such as DROP, in staying competitive.
Yep, Missed a Few, Difficult to Keep Up...
...so many GTGP Red Flags, so little time.
You see this recent post?
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=87963167
Here is the indirect link...
http://www.j3aet.com/News.html
Just have to click "more"
Interesting thing, not one mention of GTGP.
A paragraph on MBS. Thought GTGP had exclusive rights?
But, no GTGP article mention anywhere. Not one.
Seems J3 could use the GTGP/J3 PR, but didn't.
Now, why would that be?
Trading Stops, With Only Option to Hold Tight...
...as though that shows some fortitude.
My posts not believed. Uhhh, not meant for them.
Amusing, like the redefining of "proposal" by EPA.
And now, EPA at Brownfields 2013 Atlanta to <giggle>...
...to <bwa!ha!,ahem> ...to <BWA!HA!HA!> to endorse GTGP???
New levels of GTGP delusion have been attained.
The GTGP amusement factor has just went ballistic.
You've been saying GTGP will be fun.
Yet, another true prediction.
Previously Called, So Have All My Necessary DD...
Interesting. Real Q's are referred to an unavailable JF.
Talking to the company is not solid DD. Anything can be claimed.
That is what got GTGP investors in trouble in the first place.
The DD that speaks volumes comes from third parties.
Not my opinion. Real DD is third party, and is solid.
I won't ask you to trust me, I am just telling you.
Straight shooter here. Not, "pretty straight shooter."
Considering the recent lack of trading...
Holding tight is the only option.
GLTY
GLTA
Late Monitor Disclosure, Stay Extended to May 31...
Nearly a week-late Monitor disclosure, shows filing was May 8...
May 8 CCAA Order Extending Stay to May 31
CCAA regs require disclosure within two days after filing.
Same ol', same ol' treatment concerning disclosure.
Battered, Beaten, and Burned... Time and again.
Oh, the woes of revoked shareholders.
EPA Knows Every Process and Material Out There...
Sorry, but EPA cannot endorse GTGP/MBS at Brownfields 2013.
Speculating that EPA, "...know us as well as we know Ourselves. Might be redundant,...," and implying EPA's attendance helps endorse GTGP/MBS is overly optimistic. That speculation ignores the fact that, at least in US environmental protection, government agencies/representatives/employees are NOT ALLOWED to, and DO NOT EVER, endorse any process or material for environmental protection.
J3 (Former MSE-TA) employees know this.
What EPA Region representatives can do is inform outfits as to where there may be work needed within each Region. For those attending that need help, EPA will non-specifically direct them to attending exhibitors.
Unfortunately, GTGP/MBS is not attending to take advantage.
Totally understand giving someone, "benefit of the doubt."
Obviously, am less optimistic in the Sea of Red Flags.
However, have never called GTGP a scam, or called JF names.
GLTY
GLTA
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Yesterday's DROP Support... Today's Resistance...
GLTA
It's About GTGP Getting the Word Out...
Checked with some colleagues... Interesting...
GTGP and associated companies are not at Brownfields 2013.
Not in a presenter role. Not as an exhibitor.
Confirmed by a reliable third party.
Missed opportunity to seriously advertise in this industry.
Maybe GTGP/associates milling around Atlanta. Who knows.
There is a lot of enviromental cleanup opportunity out there.
Banking on one contract, ORNL/Y-12, is rolling dice.
Good honest business is really about getting the word out.
Again, a lot of opportunity out there.
GTGP actions speak loud and clear.
SP - meerly an indicator.
Seven Days, No Trades.
Best DD/research never confirms from the claimant.
Third party confirmations are the best DD/research.
Very clear during those "redefining" regulatory moments.
Now that was some entertainment value.
Ultimately, it is about when DD changes dramatically.
GTGP Suspension. No contracts. Wait, No contracts prior.
Anyway... Purported contracts never materialized.
MSE-TA acquisition strung along to ultimately fail.
Industry Not using MBS - anywhere.
Albermarle, Siemens, Calgon and many, many others...
...with Cheaper, more efficient, alternatives.
Existing facilities already in regulatory compliance.
Existing tech easily making new facilites compliant.
Battelle's determination of MBS not cost effective.
That's the biggie. No wonder there are no contracts.
Stock can be revoked at anytime.
Extremely high risk for an unknown reward.
How easily the recent past is forgotten.
Seems creation of a sticky is in order.
Interesting...
J3 site shows multitudes of services unlinked to MBS.
Covers a lot of bases to be profitable - without MBS.
Like good stock pickers, and good fishermen...
Knowing when to cut bait, and move on, is key.
Looks more and more like that's the JF end game.
glty
GLTA
Looks Like the 10K Filing is There, Link...
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/842722/000114420413029540/v344537_10q.htm
and, for list of filed docs...
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/842722/000114420413029540/0001144204-13-029540-index.htm