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Bob,I called the bluff and raised 55,000 shares this morning.
so that was no-one important....just me...onward thru the profits........10-Z
Bob, I'm ready let 'er rip....!!!!!!eom
Jagman, your post seemed to spark quite a controversy...!!!
I think that brokers may be subject to the same follies as the rest of us...even to the point of seeing some possible value in a stock such as FASC if it is pointed out to them...that might not be exactly the same as promoting penny stocks.
Do you think ALL "broker(s) worth dealing with" would necessarily feel obligated to DISCOURAGE someone from investing independently in any penny stock that were brought to the brokers attention attention, even if that penny stock appeared to the broker upon examination to have possible upside potential...?
What bothers me, I suppose, is that you seem to present your opinions as facts, rather than qualifying them as the personal opinions which they clearly and obviously are....
Thanks 10-Z PS. altho' I don't like to brag about hanging out with "brokers" I will admit to having brushed past a few, and I do believe more that a few those may have recommended stocks that performed poorly subsequent to their having been recommended by those brokers......So after listening to the opinions of brokers or of anyone elseone, one must, I'd think, eventually rely on ones own judgement in making investment decisions. Much like going to a Doctor.
MkBrews,I'm sorry, and not trying here to be un-necessarily argumentative, but could you please just tell me, as simply as possible, what the point is that you are trying to make....I seem to not be understanding. Perhaps therein lies the confusion.... Thanks .....10-Z
MKBews',you're right I wouldn't know. Just guessing that by your "Lesson number three. A good investor will look at all aspects of the markets, not just penny stocks. Again, you wouldn't know" ...and your association with "hundreds of intelligent brokers "...you must have racked up a great many huge investing sucesses. all of which makes me wonder why you would want to waste time thinking about a stock like this one that has gone nowhere for 3 or four years.....particularly if you do NOT see much future for the company.......???? Seems rather puzzling for a man in yoiur favored position...!??!!?!? In any Case Best to you, and congratulations on your stockmarket victories.....10-Z
a couple hundred very reasonable and intelligent brokers or accountants, WOW!!!!!!!!, You must be a multi-millionaire from all the intelligent trades you must have made as a result of your relationships with SO many of them.....if so what are you doing investing in a wee little penny stock like FASC......If I had millions I'd be in the Tropics on a beach . Glad to think you are doing s well.!!! 10-Z
IC6S, Yeah that'd be alright! I could live with that! Best to You Kind Poster, 10-Z
Free Neb,
Hey Buddy, I recall your looking at vmhvf a while back, I have some free shares that I got from owning my FASC shares, so I follow it just a little......anyway, just thought I'd mention that from what I hear, if anyone was ever going to look closely at that particular stock , now just might be the time to do so............!??!?!!?
Me personally, I'm not interested, but saw you on the PRRM board and it made me feel nostalgic......so I really mostly wanted to say Hi, and express my Fondest Hopes that life is treating You and Yours kindly...Yer Pal....10-Z
so I says to myself; "Self........
"Self, it might appear, even if one dares to remove ones rose-colored glasses for one frightening moment (lmao), that management may well be looking forward to beginning profitable operations and generating sufficient revenues to pay the same..in 2005 ............re 2005 salaries "
OK,to answer my own question;
The Company plans to pay the following salaries in 2005, subject to the Company beginning profitable operations and generating sufficient revenues to pay the same:
Cal Kantonen Treasurer and CFO 2005 $150,000
Brian Nichols President and CEO 2005 $150,000
Yes Juggs, that would be much to be hoped for. Perhaps HAL could consider PRing their relationship with UZP once deliveries begin.......I'm sure that's hoping for too much...but what the hey ...long as we're hoping...!
Best to You ........10-Z
Hi Gary and Juggs, IF anyone finds out about this stock, and THEN we get a nice PR....we could be talking noticable rise in the old PPS....it's just that getting some attention from some NEW investors that is proving so difficult.
A friend said recently that it doesn't matter if they sell a dozen machines, if no-one new finds out about it the PPS won't move. (Other than possibly down as the daytraders sell on news)
OOPS, I meant for this "hello" to be more upbeat, sorry....!!! Happy Trails,anyway........10-Z
Tech, in breezing over the report did I notice that management had also granted themselves a hefty pay increase for next year....? At first I was piqued, but then after having further time to "rationalize", so I quickly snapped on my rose-colored glasses, and I thought; "Hey, they MUST be looking forward to a pretty FINE year ahead to do such a thing at this point." .....lmao.....
Frankly, I don't care if they pay themselves a million a year, just as long as the pps goes up quite smartly and soon.
Now as I said , I jsut breezed over the report, so I may be in error in thinking thatI noticed a pay raise for next year, .......I notice no-one who may read these things more closely than I has mentioned it.......and I'm certianly not going back and looking again.
I wonder what the chances are at this moment that we may see a multiple sale announced.....let's say 10 machines at once......that would require a "BIG" company.....and may not happen until a record of good service has been established, BUT one might still hope....!!! DayDream Believer.10-Z
continuing negatively slanted posts, both towards FASC (which is alright) but NOT alright are the veiled slurs against other posters here.
Rafael,are you NOT the same rafael636 who posts on RB...? What I must not be understanding is; If you are, are the comments made by you there NOT supposed to be considered here..?
I am wishing the Very Best for You, and I say that in all honesty, 10-Z
The Grand Opening of the Maylasian Demo facility , as well as the first board meeting of the newly formed Company were expected to take place in the second half of Sept. I don't know that they have, but that is what was expected.
Net-Man, I,for one, don't think an AGES deal can be far behind........Partly because I don't think that Bill Barber is a smart fellow, and nobodies fool.
Btw I do look forward to your sane comments on this and other boards.
Take Care, and Happy Trails.........10-Z
Sambeaux, did you notice on the times of those trades that most all the biggies occurred within 3 seconds of each other....????? almost kind of seems orchestated doesn't it..? Take it Easy.......10-Z
Bob, sure does..!?!?!?!...eom
Pretty Impressive..!!!eom
might break .06 someday if this continues....!!!!
MkBrews, I'll b making a post that concerns you later this week...watch for it please...!!!!! 10-Z
PS.. re "false innuendoes"; who would know about that better than yourself.....?
D, As I said; U da Man....! eom
TR, U da' otherone Man..........!!!eom
D-U da Man.!!! eom
Alright Gary, You've gone TOO FAR this time..lmao...10-Z
Maybe it's a certian newbie who posted elsewhere on IHUB that he manipulates this stock......lmao
HongCouver,are you still with us,and what do you see in your Crystal Ball, Good Sir...???? Hope you are doing well, always enjoy your wise and witty pronouncements.....10-Z
Very Exciting!!!!!eom
TVA-- energy production is their bag,right? eom
TR should mean Tenn Vally Authority....I would think...isn't that connected with Oakridge...? Best..10-Z ps nice sleuthing.....!!!!!!
Juggs, I stand correctified...!!! eom
Juggsy,Yer showin yer ignorance there,Cuz,the plural of y'all is you'uns....!!!!!! and ,btw, a paper bag is properly called a poke sack, or more formally a tote sack..!
Professor 10-Z,PHD., MMD., SOB.
Juggsy, Fine Thanks, enjoy Good Buddy.10-Zeom
Juggs, what I was kind of wondering was; after that first year, when Thelon is taking $25./ton loan repayment, and FASC is taking $6/ton royalty, .......just how much is going to be left for Lavern and Ray to get their quarter each of, since actually one developed the process and is mainly responsible for having gotten the contract with HAL, and the other owns the Zeolite I hope there is a fair slice left for them and us in the form of actual profit....!!! I hope I am mistaken, but I just have the impression that the $/ton amount being paid by HAL is not all that "HUGE" (lmao).....but that impression may just be left over from misreading a not very clear PR when this whole deal first began.....do you remember the one? Something about the price per ton for Zeolite delivered to Princeton being $24. (or some such figure)...I believe it was later determined that $24 figure was refering to something other than the amt HAL was going to pay. But I'm just not sure if the actual amt/ton HAL was to pay ever came to light.
BTW...Best to You Juggsy..............10-Z
Have we EVER figured out how much per ton Micronized Zeolite will fetch...? and how much of a break did HAL get on a $5mil order ...and HAL, would you like to Super Size that order, please?
TR,Thanks, I'd forgotten about that part also. Makes things look a little better for us, if we keep that in mind.
Now just bring on Phase 2.....that being the part where profits are in evidence....!!! Looks as if (assuming that fasc does collect that $375k.) we will have gotten into UZP basically for the interest on the sale price of two KDSs. about the same deal as Thelon. I wonder if UZP is going to require a couple of semi-trucks...? I aslo wonder if Thelon cash is paying for the building to be delivered very soon. What else might start-up cassh be needed for...? staff..! Govt. fees, lisences, bribes (no, forget I said that!!!)
$450k. just doesn't go as far as it used to go..!
Juggs, if one has seen examples of desperate OTC companies resorting to "Toxic Financing" (wherein it is advantageous to the lender to see the pps decline), This DEFINATELY beats the Hell outta that. At least it will be very much to Thelons advantage to see UZP thrive, as they are now a part of UZP themselves.
The date for delivery of product to HAL is fast approaching..........UZP may well have been counting on this deal and the monies from it for quite some time......as this type of deal is not thrown together overnight. I would imagine that Thelon put UZP under the microscope from every angle before agreeing to pony up the cash.
one other thing that we DO know is that Cal does NOT normally prefer to agree to deals that are unfavorable to his company.
Hoping for the Best........10-Z
LH,do u reckon?Hoping so myownself. Best,10-Z
we lost 8.33 of our original 33.33 percentage points. that is just about 1/4 of what we once held near and dear. We lost 8.33% of the ENTIRE Company. We lost 25% of our inital share in the company.........10-Z