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It's also very clear that JAG has employed numerous posters to come on here and prop up the company. I can name 5-6 right off the top of my head.
All of them are given inside information, all of them are able to predict PRs, all of them are privy to what's happening on the inside of HFBG.
Yet, they never give complete info, they never have facts, all they do is spread rumors based on conjecture to lure in more investors.
JAG is a bold-faced liar. She's lied to investors repeatedly about transparency, production runs, and moving the company forward. She's lied about news, about salespeople, about her own qualifications, and about the directions of the company.
She's a snake in the grass. The only difference between her and Calvin is about 150lbs and Stiletto Heels.
Nice try, but that excuse doesn't hold water. HFBG isn't in the cellar because it's a "Pink", HFBG is in the cellar because of poor management and misappropriation of investor's money by the officers of the company.
Your assessment of risk would be correct if investors were dropping coins in a slot machine or calling a lottery ticket and "investment". But, the issue of HFBG's failure rests entirely upon JAG's shoulders.
They have a product, they have distribution channels, and they have a celebrity endorsement. All of those ingredients have been very successful for many companies in the past and will be in the future. But, what they do not have is honest and experienced management to execute a business plan.
You can't so freely blame the failure of HFBG on "Pinky Risk" and chalk it up as a trivial loss like the flip of a coin. HFBG enticed investors in fake contracts, exaggerated distribution channels, false statements of representation, promised timelines, and numerous other actions that JAG failed to execute.
She is no longer innocent until proven guilty. She's already proven herself guilty by her silence and inability to perform as the CEO.
All of the mudslinging and all of the name calling will go away once JAG follows through on her word. She's dug herself into an even deeper HFBG hole and there really isn't any way of getting out.
What it appears she's done is build up hype around the stock and then realized she simply doesn't have what it takes to run HFBG.
The irony in all of this is all she had to do what be truthful and up front with investors. Pretty simple philosophy that she preached, yet she just can't live by. So, what does she do? She goes silent.
Being silent with your investor's money is just as criminal as the HFBG of the past. She's fallen prey to the tricks of Calvin Ross and Co. and adopted them as her own.
JAG needs to resign and HFBG needs to simply go away.
You know what I really love about JAG? I love how she insults you in emails and goes on and on about how she loathes the people on this board and attempts to belittle them by saying that "it's in the Pinks, no less".
Yet, here she is, one of LJ's former call girls, sitting on top of this Pink Pyramid Scheme of a Scam, sucking all the money that's left right out...She might hate who she is and what she has to do for money, but she does it anyway cause she loves to get paid.
All IMO, of course :)
Yes, Really! No profits, no 2nd production, no placement, no infrastructure, Calvin is still here ;), no new deals, no truth, no real business.
JAG and Calvin are in cahoots. She was the perfect little venomous masquerade to fire up those last few shareholders and entice them into Calvin's little web of lies.
Calvin is the puppet-master and JAG is the worthless, abused, worn-out, downtrodden marionette hanging from the strings.
These people are some of the slimiest crooks on the face of the earth.
.0001 by .0001 JAG is killing this company and preparing for a R/S in 2012.
The reason why she's gone dark is there is no one else to blame except herself. Brad is gone, Dennis is gone, and everyone else that she could point a finger at got smart and left.
You have to admit that JAG has done a GREAT job at prolonging the lies and the continuance of thievery.
She's pathetic.
h0lD 0nTo Th05e Sh@re5!!
LOL!! The proof is in the PPS and the daily trades. Call the TA and ask yourself...Oh, wait, it's gagged!!
JAG still can't get this out of the .000's. She's a "washed-up, never-will-be" CEO that can't face public scrutiny or answer tough questions.
What she can do, however, is continue to allow 5th digit trading, gag her TA, bury the stock to no bid, and then blame it all on Brad, Calvin, Dennis, SHG, blah blah blah...
She should have just stuck to posting to Facebook and left HFBG alone.
JAG controls the 5th Digit Trading. She can put a stop to it if she wanted to and enable a rise in PPS. However, that would not allow certain individuals to trade 5th digit channels and flip between .00021-.00029 and .00031-.00039 etc.
You want to know why she's failing? It's because Calvin still controls her. Calvin will not halt 5th digit trades and it's because it's just too lucrative.
This whole group is from the ghetto, running a hustle, and stealing from you and I.
JAG is still 5th Digit Trading. She's the one that makes the decision on whether or not it can trade with 5th digits. As long as that's going on, you know Calvin and Crew are still here trading and taking your hard earned dollars.
And you know this how?
I call Shennannigans!
No, it just means SHG is really poor at what they advertise themselves to be providing to companies. SHG has added no value to HFBG or any other stock. But, they do take inside info, purchase cheap shares, and sell into news with a knowledge of what is coming.
If SHG was really good at promoting stocks and driving companies it'd consist of more than one person and they'd be so busy with larger tickers that HFBG wouldn't even be a blip on the radar.
SHG is Bush League. It's one man masquerading as a "group" buying and selling on inside info.
AIMHO, right?
Crooks congregate. I'm not blaming HFBG's failure on SHG, JAG had single handedly killed HFBG. But, by no means does that vindicate SHG. He runs with similar company: Calvin, JAG, Ken...They're one in the same. And, the only three crooks that have profited from this ticker.
Yes, you're right, SHG has misinformed, disseminated misinformation, and taken more money from investors by being privy to inside information than any other group. Even good ol Brad couldn't swindle more than SHG.
That all depends on when our Beloved Leader decides to pull the plug.
It's not good to watch the daily FINRA numbers! It's the one of the most off based things you can do if you're following HFBG. It means NOTHING. There is ZERO quantifiable data reported by Finra on a day to day basis. Nothing!!
The more this is talked about, the more the stock plummets. There is no conspiracy, there are no new posters here to convince, and MOST IMPORTANT: NO HFBG SHORTING IS OCCURRING!! Got it!?!
Look at the other bright side, JokeAG can take credit for bringing it out if the cellar one more time!!!
I was confident and took her at her word. However, the timeline and actions which she discussed has passed.
As far as I'm concerned she's a paper tiger. Meaning, she says enough in a one-on-one email discussion to appease you without answering tough questions. She'll go on and on about principles, talk about her kids, and speaks of honesty when facing hard decisions, yet she refuses to answer basic questions about HFBG or any other pressing issue about the stock publicly...She can't handle the public scrutiny of her decisions.
She'll only come out if she can place blame on someone else or point out the flaws of previous officers. When asked brutally honest questions she does just what she's doing now, she hides. Her own insecurities and dishonesty are the downfall of HFBG.
Unless it's to point fingers or prop herself up, she's not saying a thing.
"Man-Up" JAG, put your ego aside and run the company.
If you're insinuating that HFBG is currently purchasing up cheap shares with the intent to retire or hold them, then it's the only intelligent reasoning behind JAG's silence. Undermining, yes. Smart, yes. Good for the future, we'll see.
It's unconventional, but it could work.
It's all lies until proven otherwise.
JAG has murdered this stock, killed investor's confidence, and has lured your money into her vices with the seduction of a venomous serpent.
JAG has successfully killed HFBG. At least she can add that to her resume' now. Well done.
I warned you JAG was a snake
Not gonna happen. JAG cares as much about us as Calvin and crew. We're simply their ATM. This DTC issue is a perfect chance to hide the truth and delay the inevitable. It's all of that or she's the most foolish CEO on the planet.
JAG controls the 5th Digit Trading. She can put a stop to it if she wanted to and enable a rise in PPS. However, that would not allow certain individuals to trade 5th digit channels and flip between .00021-.00029 and .00031-.00039 etc.
You want to know why she's failing? It's because Calvin still controls her. Calvin will not halt 5th digit trades and it's because it's just too lucrative.
This whole group is from the ghetto, running a hustle, and stealing from you and I.
You're satisfied with 2 6-packs at a Mom and Pop Sporting Goods Store in PA? Cause that's all thats in stock at those stores according to the 3 that I've called...It's also not chilled either.
The DTC issue is stopping the sale of Tea.
The DTC is directly related to our thirst, LJ's appearances, the sale of tea, the 80+ reps selling our tea, JAG properly updating her investors, shipping our Tea from Copack, EVERYTHING. Don't you get it? It's nowhere, yet it's everywhere.
The whole "JAG will do it in her own time and according to her terms" simply doesn't cut it. The reason being is that her time is up. She's made promises in previous PRs that she's not able to deliver on i.e. Red Robin Grand Opening, 80 Reps selling Tea, More placement news to come in "weeks"....
Here we are, well past "weeks", and it's the same old story...So, let's just stay silent and blame the lack of accountability and placement on the DTC.
Hopefully enough investors will sell, forget about her lack of success, and then they'll be a new batch when the next ticker rolls around.
The writing is seemingly on the wall. But, I can't really say that cause it's interpreted as "childish psychology that's goading the CEO".
LOL!! Now we're tricking the CEO!!
I'd like to know SHG's credentials and what good they've done for a stock? Why is our money being entrusted to SHG? Name one stock that they've had a positive effect on and I'll begin to believe that JAG and SHG are at least giving us half-truths.
Haha, I've heard it all here. Investors request direct answers and are then accused of goading the CEO...HAHAHAHA. It's getting really good.
You answered my question: It's not a DTCC issue that's holding back this stock, it's a JAG and HFBG problem.
With that being said, then there is no reason to impede progress going forward. If the DTC is a slow and unresolvable then HFBG simply needs to go on with business as usual.
If the DTC does not care, yet the stock is able to be traded with a few brokerages, then let's move forward.
If we can't move forward from here it's not a DTC issue, it's a JAG and HFBG issue that's being masked by the DTC problem.
Well, this week Shirley seems to be the week of "do or die" for JAG and HFBG. If the PPS rises JAG is a hero, if it's lifted and no rise in the PPS or placement occurs, then she's a flop.
The pressure is on! I like it!
Really foolish move to withhold news due to a DTCC issue. That, or there is simply no news to report.
Please read up on what it takes to be considered a shareholder of record here. It's been beaten like a dead horse repeatedly and covered numerous times; much like the "shorting" issue.
Just ask Rameses. He's offered 504 Funding, designed a website out of the kindness of his heart, and ran SHG...Just read his posts he's mentioned it plenty of times. He was called out last year and then took a leave of absence after it all came to light.
Then, after the dust settled, POW! he's baaaaaack.
I agree. SHG being back in the mix is bad news. The head of SHG posts on here and also offered 504 funding to HFBG...He's one to be really leery of...
But, her responsibility is to move the business forward. If she is doing that then the PPS would naturally follow. So, it's safe to assume that the Tea has not been placed.
With that in mind there are only two reasons why it's not being reported.
1. She's not PR'ing anything until the DTC issue is cleared. If this is the case it's a complete travesty to the company and she should be replaced as it's a detriment to the success of the company.
2. The Tea is simply not being placed due to lack of sales. If this is the issue then the DTC is being used an excuse for the lack of sales/PRs and something needs to be said.
Jag does care, but if there's nothing to report, then there's nothing to report. Most CEO's do not have to report small little sales because the majority of shareholders trust the CEO. This is simply not the case here. JAG does not have a foundation of trust built with the shareholder base. So, she's being questioned on every move.
Other companies probably don't tell their shareholders diddly squat and just leave them in the dark because they really don't care! JAG does though!!!
Go HFBG
I have to agree with this statement. If the product was selling, there would already be people who would have reported the product and it's locations...Which means that it's simply not being sold at the moment.
I still say that if it was in stores somebody in our group would have spotted it by now(not big lots). No I'm not looking to trade at a lower price, I've got TD Ameritrade.
I hear you. Just send her an email. She gives tons of info out if you ask for it.
If she's good to her word, which I believe she is, that will not happen. I've asked this exact question and the response was no PRs until the DTC issue is cleared up.
Very good point with very good questions that deserve a detailed explanation.