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I'm starting to agree with you, but hey, TreKronor is run by women now. Don't have any problems with that as long as they can bring home the bacon. As far as I'm concerned they can make the men wear pink tutus if that would do the trick of bringing this company's pps where it should be.
I wonder if during a normal workday, while wheeling and dealing it ever crosses their minds that they are a publicly traded company and that they should check the pps? I think not, otherwise they would have addressed the issue long time ago. I'm trying to imagine Niclas and Carl thinking they each own half a billion shares, worth aprox.1 million, when it should be ten times that. If they don't care, then they should not be running a public company in which other people have put their trust and money.
After all the suggestions and speculations on this board, the only "reasonable" explanation to the chronic lack of communicating to the markets through proper channels, would be management's perception that as long as the company does not show a bottom line profit, it is not yet worth the extra costs of having fully audited financial statements, be compliant with SEC reporting and promoting it. Of course, this attitude ignores all the valid arguments as to what a higher valuation could do for organic growth and through acquisitions. However, we are not the ones running the company and can only observe, comment and hope they will do right by us.
Both, so instead of "either/or", you should use "not only/but also".
Tell it to the management. We tried for over 2 years but have not been successful, yet.
If this had any volume a lot of people would be buying.
I think the caption of the PR campaign, if they ever start one, should read " Sub-penny stock with 20 million + in revenue". Maybe that would generate some interest.
Exactly, it's always in the next financials. Last year Niclas said they hoped to break even. Didn't happen! We were hoping for 24M, it was just 20M. I think they realized by the middle of last year that they were not going to break even and decided to refresh the board, bring in some new guns and change the strategy. Hopefully, it will work out, but we won't know until next year and beyond. In the mean time, it would be nice to at least bring the pps to its fair market value.
As usual, we are all hopeful for a breakthrough. However, the market gives no indication of that. If I were an employee of any of the companies under the UCPA umbrella and knew that something major has happened or is about to happen, would I not buy every single available share at these ridiculously low prices? Even with the low offering on the ask, this would still drive the price up.
"Christian Jorg, CEO of Opentopic"
That's a Swedish name, so maybe they have some affinities, common ground, common ancestors,whatever, just do something to get us out of the abyss.
Nobody here suggests they pump the stock to unrealistic levels, just that they disseminate to the markets more information about the god things they have achieved in the last 3 years and future prospects. For crying out loud, they are a media and advertising company and do not know how to promote themselves? Do they really not care that the company is worth at least 1-2 cents/share and it "trades" at almost 10 times less on dismal volumes? Don't they want the markets to recognize the hard work they put in? Like I said, unless they have a strategy that will surprise us all (hopefully in a good way),the lack thereof is disconcerting and quite frankly,dismissive to us shareholders.
Maybe Barn Cat should compile all the pertinent suggestions on this board and bombard Carl with e-mails until we get at least some inkling they are considering some or something similar, that they are going to let the markets know that they exist.
As a publicly traded company they have so many tactical moves they could use to increase the pps and implicitly shareholder value, but yet they choose to do nothing. Just by utilizing what you suggested they would increase the value of their holdings 5 fold and have funds available for acquisitions, pay down all debt, hire more staff, whatever. Yet they choose to use borrowed money and move inch by inch instead of leaping. They keep winning that "Media Agency of the year" award but nothing big ever comes out of it. It's like getting a degree from an ivy league school every year, hanging the diplomas on the wall and being unemployed. I am really curious to know what that Carl guy is doing every day at work. I mean, he's in charge of investor relations and business development. What investors? We are the investors and there are no relations. Every time we want to find out something it's like pulling teeth. Barn Cat has to ask several times and there's never a straight answer; NBI or someone else has to dig it out from some obscure Swedish media. I think that in the last 3 years we must have traded amongst ourselves and the occasional MM, so we're responsible for rising the pps from triple zero nothing to almost nothing but it's at least more than they did. I'm not saying they did not do a good job at growing the business, but as far as shareholder value is concerned the record is abysmal. So, unless they have something up their sleeve that will blow everybody's socks off, I don't expect much to come from the annual report and to say that I'm frustrated would be an understatement.
One thing that baffles me with this company is that, although Tre Kronor keeps winning "Media Agency of the Year" award, they have yet to sign with big Scandinavian names (except SAS, and we do not know much that deal is worth). One would think that at least some Swedish large multinationals might nibble at them, but so far nothing. Could it be because they are still a small company by all counts, too small to service the big guys?
You do realize that the O/S count as of 5/2011 was already 1.6 billion (including options and warrants)? Even if they don't dilute any further (which they will most likely do, in order to get through the approvals,)at your price estimates, that would mean a market cap of between 16 and 48 billion dollars; really don't see that happening.
It might seem like a no-brainer to sell at 0.007 but did you see the volume or rather, lack thereof. I said this before, for all we know, it can go to $1, without trading volume it's useless.
You don't have to tell us about it. We've been staining our eyes in front of the screens for 3 years now so, don't hold your breath.
It's unreal how many times over the pot companies have increased their pps and trading volume in just one month, while we sit on 20+ millions in revenue, no pps uptick and zero volume. Unbelievable, simply,utterly unbelievable!
CAT, what makes you think the April annual report is going to be a watershed event? We've already seen the first 3 quarterly reports and they do not look spectacular. For all we know, the pps can go to $1, it's still not going to make a difference without "normal" trading patterns. We could all be millionaires on paper but unable to sell or buy due to the lack of interest in the stock.
These guys are amateurs, at best, at running a publicly traded company. They are obviously good if not very good at what they do in their core competencies, but this last monthly newsletter is definitely not the way to present oneself to the investment community; not in this country anyway, i.e. the pps and volume.
Exactly, so we'll probably see spring grass in Fairbanks before anything happens with the pps here. Frustrating, to say the least!
No, I'm not Swedish,just lived there for a while. My Swedish is not good at all, I forgot almost all of it, it's been more than 20 years. Anyway, since today is Dec. 13, "Lyckliga St. Lucia Dagen!" och "God Jul Och Ett Gott Nytt År"!
Whatever is was, it did wonders for the share price and volume, as usual. If there is a newsletter tomorrow (which I doubt,) it will probably have the same effect. They're either not ready or have no clue how to manage a publicly traded company.
I for one would like to know who's selling.
Hopefully by the end of the year, apparently Niclas din not read Carl's message. But then again, this being a media company (best media agency in Sweden for!!!)they cannot find someone to write a one page newsletter every month. Or, it may be that there is really nothing to communicate to shareholders both existing and potential and the monthly letter should become a bi-monthly letter, or quarterly, yearly or better yet, just surprise us from time to time, like NBI said. After all, this is still a publicly traded company (albeit that might be an overstatement since it's not really trading).
I am not confusing them, trust me. It would take too much time to debate the matter here but, suffice it to say, that I lived there for 30 years, until I could no longer take the fact that the government knew better than me what to do with 80% of my income. So I decided to move here, the last bastion of capitalism on the planet. At least that’s what I thought then; in light of the latest developments, I’m not so sure any more. Anyway, since there’s no other place to move to (unless some alien species beam me away to another planet), might as well make the best of it while it’s still available. So, as a capitalist pig, I expect to make a big return on my investment, maybe even a killing; and believe me, UCPA stock going over 10 cents/share would make me a lot, and I mean a lot happier than those Danes. However, unless they somehow decide to enter the US market, I’m not holding my breath.
I think that we were all more or less captivated by the good results of last year and expected more than they actually accomplished this year. We also might have been overly optimistic with their business abilities to continue the growth. Maybe Niclas and Carl realized that too and that's why they expanded the BOD.
Last, but not least (and I hope I'm really wrong on this one)this is after all a Swedish company and profits are not the main concern in a quasi-socialist business climate. Very high administrative costs, mainly personnel, are a big drag on the bottom line and you probably cannot even fire employees there, no matter how unproductive (most likely they are all part of a union anyways). There are many multinationals based in Scandinavia and Europe as a whole, but the vast majority of them rarely turn a profit on domestic operations. Without exports and operations in Asia and North America they could increase sales all they want, the government will make them give it all back.
For a company that consistently wins the "agency of the year" award, UCPA has few high profile customers. I'm afraid that until they decide to somehow penetrate the US market we will not see a profitable company. Hopefully they figured it out too.
Of course I would. I would also like to buy some now, but where am I going to get them: can't even get 50,000/day. Nobody's selling, nobody can buy, volume is getting close to zero, pps is dropping, company's doing well,nothing makes sense from an investor's point of view.
If they contemplate going private why not do it now when the price is low. What would be the point of growing the company and implicitly the pps and valuation only to have to pay a lot more later to take it private?
What could happen in the long run if you refuse?
Are you saying that when they find out about a company like this, that has grown 45 times since last year and has potential for another 45 times growth in the next 5 years, they would be reluctant to put a few thousand euros in it? Is it better to get, maybe 10%/year in a "safe stock"?
Maybe they want to buy more and obviously they buy in the many millions but there are none available.
I think that being the pragmatic Scandinavians that they are, there will be no "professional" promoting of this stock until they become profitable and can maintain profitability while growing. They are definitely not pumpers and I command them for that. Very seldom you see an under penny stock managed like this. We'll just have to wait for that turning point when price will start to reflect the actual results and potential of this company. Might be sooner than we think.
Should attract trading groups and institutional investors but there is no liquidity. All of us minority shareholders probably account for less than 300 million shares; the rest of the float is most likely in the hands of former insiders and they are not selling, yet. We are not selling either, Niclas and Carl have restricted shares,MMs have none. I have no idea if employees hold any at all. They (Niclas and Carl) will have to come up with a strategy to drive up the pps until it reaches levels at which we would be willing to sell or put out more shares on the market (but that would mean dilution). Either way, something needs to be done because you cannot have this kind of growth stock trading a few hundred thousands shares/day at these prices. It's getting ridiculous.
It's the latter!
Good, we should all keep sending emails until we get answers; after all, we are also stakeholders in this company, we invested in it and according to regulations governing public companies we are entitled to disclosure information.
Just waiting for the 10-Q to come out. Pretty sure it's going to be good numbers, progress and growth; consequently, as it's already the norm with this stock, the pps is going to plummet. Then, I'm going to write a "friendly" email to Carl and ask him what kind of market economy do they teach at the Stockholm School of Economics, cause sure as hell must be different that what we learned here.
OK, so let's say a little more over 200 by now. Niclas and Carl own 1+billion, some of the former Bark insiders probably at least another 200 million and then the rest of us with an average of around 2 million (some obviously more) to make up the difference to 1.6 billion. If the float is 600 million and we're not selling (I'm not, at least until it goes over 3 cents), insiders are not selling and the MMs have no shares to play with (except a few thousands here and there) we're in a catch22 here. There's no liquidity, the volume cannot pick up, new entrants cannot buy and we do not want to sell at these levels and low volume.
NBI, do you know how many shareholders of record there are?
The "thing" keeping this company pinned to the ground is management's lack of communication with the investors (existing and potential). No forward guidance what so ever and the last announcement was 3(three)!!! months ago. Now, none of us knows if this is intentional so they can reach "critical mass" before exploding or simply they choose not to operate like a public company should (I'm hoping for the former).
Let's face it, a company this size does not need 100+ days to figure out the financials. Most of the data is digitally processed anyway so procrastinating to the last day does not make them look good. Like everyone else on this board who has a vested interest in this company, I'm hoping for the best but not holding my breath. It is quite telling the fact they didn't even know they were about to be downgraded until it happened and as NBI mentioned several times, all they need to do to become "current" is an attorney letter. They did mention though that they will look into it. I wonder how long that's going to take. Meanwhile, thousands of absolutely worthless pinks have a pps and market cap tens or hundreds of times higher. Whatever plan or strategy they might have, they're obviously not sharing it with us or any outsiders. However, I'm certain that at some point this year, they will surprise us; just hoping it'll be in a good way.