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Several times. I just never bought back into the stock so for me it never applied. Once I bailed I was out for good.
Myth go back and read the numerous posts that clearly stated this is a pink stock and is acceptable. That is as clear as it can be. I must have read that a dozen times. You even defended the pink sheet mentality.
Goalie that's all that is keeping me in this. I try to use logic with this and hope I'm right. Just major league frustrated over the delays.
Thanks Karin. I too want to see what it will be like. Andy did tell me it would be different.
Which means they don't see a rebound for 30 days. I think that's the number of days before you can buy back in??? Maybe I'm wrong. Any thoughts?
They say lying is acceptable in every pump post saying it's a pinkie and that is to be expected. I read that so many times. And so what if I've made my point. It's enough of the optimism and time for reality regarding this stock and management. With IR one call a way only a handful of us ever call them to see what they have to say and never live up to it. But then it's a pinkie so get used to it. I guess this is where they stick the less honorable people. What a travesty.
Losing money is an everyday occurrence in the market pkace, But with a good honest management group it will most always rebound. I am not seeing that here. I see an old man who doesn't know how to run a simple business making money for himself as well as the other perks I'm sure he is enjoying in the Chinese culture.
Myth why does he need Chinese funding if he was closing the deals like he said he was. At one point less than two months ago it was two for sure and possibly three. Then it slipped to two and six weeks agao it was one any day now. If he needs funding he should be hung in the high courts for LYING and scamming the shareholders. He's a punk CEO we are stuck with for now hoping for a pop to exit. The one for sure by the end of the year AIN'T happenin' man. Lies after lies. And I will vent because of the BS we are getting thrown in our face. I might call Mr. Byers and see what the latest lie is for amusement.
I'm amazed and always will be at the number of posters who feel SIVC can lie to us and it is acceptable. Has anyone here had a real job, kids, or parents that find that behavior unacceptable? This is insane to think they can lie about anything and it is okay. Bickel owes us answers and the truth especially in the face of trying to be listed on the OTC. We have a right to know where the closing stands other than any day now. We also have aright to know the plans on the dividends. Jeez folks lets get with it. LYING is wrong
Anybody betting on when our any day now day will be? Winner gets a buck. I say January 9, 2009.
Agreed. Which is wrong.
Also reminds me of the Cubs fans. Wait till next year. They've been waiting for what? A hundred years now.
Almost exactly 12 months ago and nothing since which is pathetic. Do you not agree? I know their last lie do you?
They celebrate their New Years early February and everything shuts down then.
At this rate they're not closing by years end....just another lie. So that means the second closing and third closings aren't even close as they told us they were. More lies. And what if ENHD trades in the dollar range which is very possible. All things considered reality outweighs the wishing on the star and the future looks glim. JMO
Has anyone called IR for the latest "any day now" lie? Getting more pizzed since the month is almost over and there is nothing when over a month ago it was going to be any day now. Oh well we can always file a class action suit to stir up the pot
I agree Jitz. It better be good.
Hello???
holter my feelings the same. I want to see a penny and bail but at this point I'll settle for break even. I may be wrong but I don't see this getting better. Especially reading people's stories about being long for three years. I think it's dead money but will have its trader spikes to allow exit points. JMO
It's not the bloody economy. Read S3's Statement as follows:
"In this very trying time in the global financial markets, China is the fastest growing economy in the world. Despite the current global economic conditions, the impact to China has been relatively minimal. In addition to providing financial forecasting for the company in the near future, we also anticipate providing detailed information as to why China is an ideal market in which Redwood Capital will focus its efforts," Mr. Bickel added.
I think this pretty much says it all. Now either they don't know what they're talking about, they are lying to us, or everyone outside of the company knows more than they do. Take your pick
You keep saying this but S3 keeps saying something different. I posted what they said before. So why hasn't the any day now deal closed?
And oh by the way China did their bailout before us and most people over here didn't even know.
Myth how many times have you been to China? How many business deals have you been a part of in China or with the Chinese? Do you have a clue of the corruption that exists there? The mailmen are on the take and it's a common practice. So how long do you think it'll be or how much money it will take for real Chinese to take S3 to their knees and out of business if wanted? With Government officials involved, which happens regularly because I've been a part of the delegations that take place over here, they could move Chinese businessmen into Redwood and the old fart Bickel will be out. It's an easy business to get into.
I'm disappointed. I thought my statement about Bickel not being accountable and responsible for his actions was the most ridiculous things I've ever said.
I think you better do some research on doing business in China and understanding how their Government can get involved in the business and there is nothing the good old US can do
Myth they will probably not even close one by years end when they were telling us two for sure and possibly three less then two months ago? You really think these clowns can close three by the end of the first quarter? They'll be lucky to close three in two years if they're still around. And this is a business that isn't hard to get into. I suspect the competition will get fierce and that will be Bickel's next excuse. Between him and Byers take a pick who is the biggest liar on the planet. It's too close for me to call. Waiting for that penny so I can get the blank outta here. Had enough these two liars.
Myth when doing DD on pinks there is only aso much a person can do. As for pinksheets.com the data won't be accurate because S3 doesn't have to update them. The O/S were all over the place pink sheets shows one number, IR didn't know. I tried to use common snense from the reverse split and the financing covered in 2008 and never imagined 1.5B shares. Bickel should be strung up for that. The pink sheets shows 381M as of August 2007. I understand pinkies. I only get involved in one at a time. They can be rewarding or risky. There were a lot of pumpers on this board who have all disappeared
I read the PR's talked to IR read the last 10K and decided the stock was worth the risk mostly based on a biusiness plan, revenues, and going for OTC. It was the O/S that caught me
I did as much DD as possible on a pink stock and came up with a decision the company had revenues, a plan, and a future with a grwoing need. What I could see is the non stop lying by Bickel who like I have said all along has no right to lie to us shareholders because he is a pink and not an OTC or better. I will stick to my guns all men need to be ethical, accountable, and responsible regardless if they are a CEO of a pinky. It does not give the moron the right to lie. And here we are again with the any day now almost a month old and no closing. And no word on the second closing we were told would happen as well with a potential thrid closing possible by year end or early January. Those are blatant lies by an ignoramous who cares about himself only. He is undeserving of any position in business. I jhave fired people for lying to me. If you can't trust the person and information they're worthless plain and simple. Bickel is a worthless POS
Myth I meant Redwood. Not sure why I keep saying Red Oaks. I know that's a holding company out of Vermont. My mistake
Andy said they are looking at other markets. Looking to establish a relationship/partnership with a company like Red Oaks where they are nationals to the country and can make things happen.
Karin I expect them to close deals as well which keeps me around. I also hope Andy is right on when he said they are looking at other markets as vague as a statement as that is.
I think it'll jump and then drop at a higher level then the current pps. JMO
That's Bio Rad Laboratories. Sorry about the spelling
I used to work with Holmes at Bio Rad laborators in the Bay Area. I am assuming you are referring to him. Talk about a small world. The guy was okay but from I heard turned into a real jerk
Myth you mean 12/31??
Why?
All of us should feel betrayed
I called IR last week and they are on target for the closing on the date they set forth. They won't disclose that date or at least Andy wouldn't too me. Before they were saying any day now and yet they knew there was a specified date of the closing. To me that looks like a deceptive paractice. Why not say it will happen on the date scheduled. Unless they are winging it and there is no date scheduled which is why they were saying any day now and that blew up in their face. Optimism doesn't work with reporting companies. If they want to report on the OTC they better GROW UP quick because saying what you do and doing what you say is what the street wants to see come reporting date. Yes I do think they are liars. They uintentionally deceive people. Just like when I asked Andy the O/S share count he went back to Feb 2007 and tried to tell me there were 16M O/S. I told him according to the pinksheet website tyhere were 381M in August 2007 and he told me there were no more shares created in 2008 and yet we are led to believe the share count increased by (4) in one quarter? and by almost (94) fold in less than a year? Bickel is a criminal IMO without any regard to shareholders as he quickly states in all of his PR's.
I'd be willing to bet that by the time SIVC qualifies to be listed on OTC the share count will be over 2.5B because they are liars. If you can prove me wrong so be it. But history is a telling story for thsi company and pathetic management group. JMHO
I was looking for a penny and a half. A nickel was reasonable before the disaterous news of major dilution to 1.5B shares and growing, I'm sure with Bickel at the helm. Bickel is a lost sould guiding a ship in the middle of the ocean. Unfortunately I'm on the boat with him. The man couldn't run a candy store
My hope on this one is running very thin. I am seeing the pattern of pinks that kept me away from them for so long. Lie and keep on printing shares and then due a reverse split. They are all the same just a different book title. Same old story. It's like how many westerns can they make before they all seem the same.
My response is it is now late and the two we were promised with a third one possible seems to be a forgotten statement. One is not enough IMO. Time for the liars to become truthful
Myth I agree with you 100%. That is what I was saying all along. It was so obvious with SIVC
Last one out please turn out the lights as this board is dying quickly.
I hope so. I was hoping he got blitzed on his "any day now" and decided to surprise us. The any day is confusing given he keeps saying the closing date has been determined and will happen on that date.