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slojab..Our-Street..mdg66..
slojab_post #15553
Thx's for that ! lol
One thought for all..
The 'Pink OTC Market' has a/it's purpose, eluded to at times, by me ( and Our-Street ) in previous posts for basically any 'non-regulated' and/or 'non-reporting' company..
The bottom line is always trade at your "own risk"..Whether you choose to believe or not in these companies_is strictly your own choice..
http://www.pinksheets.com/pink/risk.jsp
G/L_1
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Our_Street..
As I read your posted opinions concerning 'BZTG'_I can only say as I did in previous posts..
For any "pink otc" companies ( including 'BZTG' ) you claim are perpetrating/committing fraud or are involved in a scam or fraudulent activity/s..The proper course and path to prove such claims are in links listed below..
http://www.pinksheets.com/pink/otcguide/investors_contacting_regulators.jsp
http://www.sec.gov/complaint.shtml
https://apps.finra.org/Investor_Information/Complaints/complaintCenter.asp
That any individual postings about 'scam or fraud' concerning 'BZTG' { Buzz Technologies Inc or it's Mgmt } on the web; Proves nothing more than possibly disgruntled ex-employees, disgruntled ex or current shareholders, dreamers/do-gooders etc..
"No legal action to date", has been taken against 'BZTG'/Buzz Technologies Inc/Mgmt by any governing 'regulatory' agency..
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Known facts..
(1) 'BZTG' legally trades on 'Pink OTC' currently..
(2) 'Outstanding Shares' listed on 'pinksheets' is currently 300,000,000
(3) 'Sutida Suwannavid' is listed as "Chairwoman"..
(4) Current contact information given is:
Buzz Technologies, Inc.
Buzz Admin Central
Bang Tao Beach Commercial Centre
M5T Bang Tao Beach
Phuket 81300
Thailand
Phone: 66-7632-6318
Fax: 66-7632-6319
Tel: 66 80 700 7900 123
Tel: 66 80 700 7900 129
e-mail: 7@12buzz.com
e-mail: ir@12buzz.com
http://www.12buzz.com
Again G/L_1
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mdg66_post #15533
Two thoughts concerning options trading..
Very risky for less experienced investors/traders..
Experienced traders/investors can make more money faster than simple stock trading_but you can also lose more money faster than simple stock trading..
Also use to protect risk in advanced options trading_called "option spreads"..
There are many different types of 'options trading'..
For highly experienced trade/investor only imo..
Thx's_1
Of interest:
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/o/option.asp
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/spreadoption.asp
http://www.investopedia.com/university/optionspreadstrategies/
'Our-Street'..
Wasn't able to locate any 'Shayne Heffernan' under the 'F' category/listing per your link..Maybe my mistake..
http://www.qassia.com/international-black-listed-brokers-and-businessman
Not sure why you feel this is relevant to 'BZTG'..There is no 'Shayne Heffernan' listed as a 'BZTG' officer to date..
Your written 'synopsis' isn't any proof of some 'Shayne Heffernan' being an 'infamous con man puppetmaster' and/or 'International con man' of 'BZTG'..sorry !
lol_1
I can see there are a lot of 'BZTG' believers here..lol
Maybe consider 'BZTG' being a 'non-reporting' company listed on the 'Pink OTC' Market_where you can believe or not..No reporting required_all 'traders' welcome..
G/L_1
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FYI..'weo1998' it was me who mentioned the 'AEMC/BZTG' connection..I seem to remember asking 'Jack' about that once, and if I remember correctly, he indicated that it was more than a simple business relationship between 'AEMC' and 'BZTG'..Buzz had a major stake in 'AEMC'..But I could be mistaken..
Thx's for that..1
'weo1998'..'lowe6er'..'aries4747'..'Our-Street'..
Good to be hearing 'positive' news and postings from 'weo1998' and 'lowe6er'..Thx's for that !
'BZTG' is a 'strong buy' at this time..G/L_1
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'aries4747' post 15469..
Of interest_and if I'm not mistaken, I believe 'AEMC' "Archer Entertainment Media Communications Incorporated" is actually owned/controlled by Buzz Inc..
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Our-Street..
I believe this is a 'pinksheets player/trader stock' thats about to move once again..Might be time to re-think your position and if interested, get on board for the ride_info or not..lol
G/L_1
'slojab'..'lowe6er'..'Our-Street'..
slojab_post #15382
Apparently time may answer that..
http://www.buzz-inc.com/
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'lowe6er'_post #15383
Thx's for that !
Of interest;
( As moderator 'slojab' states in post #15382..)
{ I wish they'd use "Buzz Technologies" when they refer to this stock.
Until they confirm the existence of this "Buzz Inc", it merely raises the question of legitimacy.
I'll bet some of us have had experiences with pinksheet companies transfering assets to other entities, leaving the stock nothing more than a shell.
Maybe we should start a brand new board? The "Buzz Inc" board! Hmmmmmmm......}
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Here's a chance for You ( and weo ) too again try and possibly start a new board..
The 'Buzz Inc.' board..
Maybe/could/should qualify as a different company than 'Buzz Technologies Inc' on this site..G/L 1
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Our-Street_post #15385
LOL..Good post_try this..
You're traveling through another dimension..
A dimension not only of sight and sound, but of mind..
Your moving into a land of both shawdow and substance, of things and idea's..
A journey whose boundaries are that of imagination..
That's the signpost up ahead, your next stop_'The Pinksheets Market'..lol
G/L 1
Todays Buzz_'Best Pinks Forum'..
http://www.buzzme.12buzz.com/_forum/index.php?sub=14803&cat=3390&threadnumber=658554
Buzz Inc controls a number of Businesses
1. Technology
This cover most of what you see online coming from 12buzz.com and other sites.
There is other technology that you do not see, this is the technology that powers our SEO and other services, as well as search which we use in many ways other than providing you great search results.
2. Property
Property relies heavily on the 12buzz.com technology to power the lead generation. This SEO has proven to be an amazing advantage to Property. Now that Thailand and Spain are operational at the estate agency level we will look to move on toward more countries for the actual brokerage part of the business.
One-2-Property is using the 12buzz.com technology to offer full marketing services to developers and counts some of thailands biggest developers as clients, we do expect this to roll out into the countries we will open brokerages in.
Property is also responsible to manage and develop various real estate assets owned by Buzz Inc.
Mining
As explained in the Buzz Inc Memo, we use the search to gather and index a huge amount of mining data.
Buzz Inc has also invested in many mining sites, the Lanna Project is the first to go into production and we will, as we will with other sites, seek to forward sell all production and in some cases the mine as well.
Financial Services
Supported currently by Easy Forex and Maritime Securities we are offering a number of services in the finance sector with a focus on Asia.
Venture Capital
Buzz Inc invests technology and sometimes cash into other businesses under some very strict guidelines.
This process has many additional advantages to Buzz Inc other than a profit on sale, the service promotes our brand, brings new customers and gives us inroads into new business.
From time to time the amount of news being generated by any one part of the business will fluctuate. Just because you are hearing more from 1 section than another doesnt mean we have changed direction, it is simply a reflection of whats happening at the time.
'slojab'..
"As the volume and bid increase_this stock is positioned to move forward ( higher ) very soon..Fact !
Strong buy !
'12buzz.com' is aiming to capture the majority of PCs through China working with the various Internet Cafe Unions and rolling out VoIP, ISP and regional IT services across the country in an effort to catch the 2 market leaders in China, Google and Baidu..
"Buzz Inc's, 12buzz.com had the '3G Buzz Mobile' site in Chinese operating for sometime and welcomed the recent news that hundreds of millions of people in China will now be able to use all of the Buzz Mobile services"..
"Our investments in '3G' technology will help Buzz expand our growth on many fronts in China"_said 'Sutida Suwunnavid' of Buzz Inc..
In China, 'Buzz Broker', 'Venture Capital' and 'Buzz FX' did best with a flood of sign ups, corporate clients and corporate deals. Games product sales were strong, and VoIP in testing beat per PC, per week estimates by 50%..
"Property and Financial Services were the strongest earners"..
Buzz Inc's_'12Property'..
"Our property division had a great start predominantly from the exposure in the ad network, which will see both '12Property' and 'Buzz Inc' gain huge exposure in Asia"..
{ Chinese online advertising growing 28% in 2009, versus 11% in the U.S. and 9% globally, with compound growth through 2014 of 24% in China, 9% in the U.S. and 9% globally }..
Work continues on developing all facets of the technology that delivers the search and ads..'Buzz' is also focused on presenting ads in new and more engaging ways to help the company in a USA launch in September..
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Of interest:
http://www.pinkotc.com/corporate/index.html
http://www.pinkotc.com/corporate/risk.html
'lowe6er'..Thx's for that ! And everybody..
As the volume and bid increase_this stock is positioned to move forward very soon..
Pinksheets can die_but 'miraculously' do come back to life..
'Investors' that will make believers of this stock then..
As for all the 'news' coming out every week; Remember this is a 'pinksheets' stock..Learn to read between the lines_not always what it seems etc..
And always remember the 'risk' involved with any 'Pink OTC markets' stock..
http://www.pinksheets.com/pink/risk.jsp
G/L 1
'slojab'_'MRSMITH1'_'Our-Street'_
'slojab'..post #15352
Yes I had read your entire post #15339..
My point was..
"It was the smartest thing Shayne ever did"..
by_
'keeping hopes alive for the major shareholders and from selling their shares as the sp drifted lower and lower' )..
I hope that clarifies my post #15351..
I agreed..
Thx's again..1
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'MRSMITH1'..post #15353
I agree..Thxs for that ! 1
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'slojab'..post #15354
You might find in 'lowe6er' recent post #15317 of some value and possible 'positive' information etc..
Or contact 'Buzz Mgmt' for specific information..
CONTACT:
Sutida Suwunnavid of 'Buzz Technologies Inc.'
Tel: 66 80 700 7900 123
Tel: 66 80 700 7900 129
e-mail: ir@12buzz.com
http://www.12buzz.com
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'Our-Street'..post #15355
"Chat" room still exist..Thx's !
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'Our-Street'..post #15357
I believe 'Buzz Technologies Inc' being a division of 'Buzz Inc'..
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'slojab'..post #15358
I agree..
Of interest:
http://www.buzz-inc.com/
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I'll conclude by saying this..
Any individual postings about 'scam or fraud' concerning 'BZTG' { Buzz Technologies Inc or it's Mgmt } on the web; Proves nothing more than possibly disgruntled ex-employees, disgruntled ex or current shareholders, dreamers etc..
"No legal action to date", has been taken against 'BZTG'/Buzz Technologies Inc/Mgmt by any 'regultory' agency governing body ..
'BZTG' legally trades on 'Pink OTC' currently..
http://www.pinksheets.com/pink/about/index.jsp
G/L_1
'Dale12'_'Our-Street'_'slojab'_'lowe6er'..
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'Dale12'_post #15336..
For us 'daytraders'_What would "give this stock price a jolt" ?
Thx's 1
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'Our-Street'_post #15337
You state "I was being sarcastic" ..I know, so was I..
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slojab_post #15338..
'Keral Patel' back in the news..lol ( him/her ? ) I thought female ?
Anyway, a "webmaster" now, not a 'CEO of Buzz India' anymore/apparently..
Now that's what I call "Forward Looking Statement" lol..
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slojab_post #15339
"smartest thing Shayne ever did"..
Well said, and I agree ( if your referring to aka '12buzz' etc.. )
He's proved to be a somewhat 'shrewd trader' imo..
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Our-Street_post #15340
Ouch..lol
Now if only you could prove it..
For all who are not convinced of this companys legitimacy, here are sites of interest..G/L
http://www.pinksheets.com/pink/otcguide/investors_contacting_regulators.jsp
http://www.sec.gov/complaint.shtml
https://apps.finra.org/Investor_Information/Complaints/complaintCenter.asp
http://www.nasaa.org/Issues___Answers/Enforcement___Legal_Activity/
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Our-Street_post #15342
"nothing is at it seems"..Well put ! Definition of a 'pinksheet otc' stock imo..
As for any specific financial numbers_since no audited numbers have ever been given, it's hard to determine any "book value" or 'facts' concerning 'BZTG' financial condition imo..
It's truly being a 'pinks otc' company at this time imo..
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lowe6er_post #15344
I like that "Mod" lowe6er..lol G/L !
'lowe6er'..Thx's for that !
Also posted today..
'News Service'..
http://www.buzzme.12buzz.com/_forum/index.php?sub=14803&cat=3390&threadnumber=656882
Of note "Actorvist" is now called "Best Pinks"..
Looks like 'Buzz Inc' maybe posting exclusive business news releases to that site..
Can't believe my eyes seeing 'OS' suggesting "a ( any ) reason to buy BZTG" in post #15331..A 'Buzz' convert..can't be ! lol
'lowe6er'..'slojab'..'Dale12'..
'lowe6er'..
Thx's for that "Buzz" update..Looks like several 'good reasons' for buying 'BZTG' in that report..
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'slojab'..
In response to your post #15313..
Your question..
"IM1, what's the purpose of the link(s) you provided? I don't get it? Is it supposed to inform us of something important"?
'Yes'..some helpful information pertaining to 'manganese mining operations' which "Buzz" is currently involved in..
You then question..
"You say "'BZTG' releases information intended on benefiting their specific business interest/goals etc;" What "information" are you refering to?
To further clarify, let me restate/rephrase..
"Any" information 'BZTG' releases is only intended on 'benefiting and informing' on their specific 'business plans/interest/goals'..Not to satisfy any 'pinks otc' rating/ranking system..
You question..
"How does any of it benefit the shareholders"?..
And of related topic, further state..
"I thought you might know three positive facts"
( concerning 'BZTG' status )
I'll only say again, since you posed the question originally; My suggestion and answer to this, is still for you to ask the 'Chairwoman' or 'Buzz Technologies Inc' yourself; For the most informed and accurate reply/s to that/those question/s..
[Side note]..
You might find in 'lowe6er' recent post #15317_some value/positive information etc..
CONTACT:
Sutida Suwunnavid of 'Buzz Technologies Inc.'
Tel: 66 80 700 7900 123
Tel: 66 80 700 7900 129
e-mail: ir@12buzz.com
http://www.12buzz.com
G/L_1
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'Dale12'..
You state..
"Now that we all KNOW Buzz is a scam"..
I'm sure you have 'legitimate proof' of this ? lol
G/L
Todays 'Buzz'..
A 'Green Lanna Project'..
http://www.buzzme.12buzz.com/_forum/index.php?sub=14804&cat=3390&threadnumber=656437
'Manganese Ore Mine'..
http://drtom.12buzz.com/_forum/index.php?sub=86171&cat=19161&threadnumber=656419
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slojab_post #15309, 15310..
Post #15309..
It was explained to me once sometime back, that 'BZTG' releases information intended on benefiting their specific business interest/goals etc; Not for the rating system specific to the 'pinks otc'; ie. 'not a consideration'..
Post #15310
You stated..
"I offered an opportunity for anyone"..lol
Thats very generous of you..I guess I was just offering it back then_sorry if I offended..
You continue stating..
"who cares to or is able to come up with three positive facts about BZTG to post them"..
I suggest you may be asking the wrong people for the answer/s to that question..
I 'generously' suggest you might start with..
CONTACT:
Sutida Suwunnavid of 'Buzz Technologies Inc.'
Tel: 66 80 700 7900 123
Tel: 66 80 700 7900 129
e-mail: ir@12buzz.com
http://www.12buzz.com
For perhaps a more informed and accurate response to that question..G/L 1
'Our-Street'..'slojab'..
'Our-Street'..
In response to your post #15299..
Here's some sites for any "pinks otc's" companies ( including 'BZTG' ) you continue claiming are perpetrating/committing fraud or are involved in a scam or fraudulent activity/s ( from my post #15291 )..
Thx's..1
http://www.pinksheets.com/pink/otcguide/investors_contacting_regulators.jsp
http://www.sec.gov/complaint.shtml
https://apps.finra.org/Investor_Information/Complaints/complaintCenter.asp
http://www.nasaa.org/Issues___Answers/Enforcement___Legal_Activity/
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'Our-Street'_your post #15302..
You state..
"That is a copy of the Pink Sheet's rating of the company because provides no information to the listing service. It's tne next to worst rating a company can get"..
You forgot to include that because it's a 'pinks otc' stock, 'no information' 'is required' for this market_so none given..
The link below may also help answer any 'pinks otc' questions..( Again from my post #15291 )..
http://www.pinksheets.com/pink/otcguide/index.jsp
Again thx's..1
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'slojab'_your post #15307..
Since you are this boards 'Moderator', maybe you should/can answer that question and post it..
Thx's_1
Thanks lowe6er_and wishing all 'BZTG' investors "Good Luck" in '09'..
I believe all ihub posters questions will be answered this year_pro or con on this 'pinks otc' stock..
Of interest..
http://www.pinksheets.com/pink/otcguide/index.jsp
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And for all who are still not convinced of this companys legitimacy, here are sites of interest..G/L
http://www.pinksheets.com/pink/otcguide/investors_contacting_regulators.jsp
http://www.sec.gov/complaint.shtml
https://apps.finra.org/Investor_Information/Complaints/complaintCenter.asp
http://www.nasaa.org/Issues___Answers/Enforcement___Legal_Activity/
Our-Street..
Post #15201..
You state_
"that nothing is as it seems"..
I agree..Definition of a 'pinksheets stock' imo..
The rest of the post really seems less convincing..As it's mostly conjecture and/or assumption, hearsay etc
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Post #15213
Personal opinion..
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Post #15214
You state..
"Even if your server is down for upgrading, you always keep sites renewed"..
Really ?
Maybe more is going on here than meets your eyes..
You further state..
"Shayne and his lackeys do not possess even the most rudimentary business skills"..
Don't know, 'for a fact', how/if this 'Shayne' person and 'BZTG' are connected_but I believe your statement could be said about others..
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Post #15224
You correctly state..
"I wonder what the REAL reason the sites are all down"..
I would say the rest of your continued dialogue, in that post, ie. 'assumptions/opinions/accusations' etc. aren't addressing/finding the answer/s to that question..
I believe that question may have just been somewhat answered in the current 'BZTG' pr..
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Post #15227
You correctly state..
"I personally have no way of knowing what the truth is"..
Enough said..I'll agree..
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Post #15229
You correctly re-state..
"The new look rich media search and portals will come online over the next month"..
The rest of your post, seems to be only conjecture and/or opinion etc.
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Post #15230
??? Not sure your understanding how ( insider ? ) trading is done..{ If thats what your suggesting ? }
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Have a good day ! 1
'Our-Street'..'slojab'..'circ-buzz'..
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Our-Street..( post #15173, other post etc..)
When anyone individual states a 'fact'; In reality, it's still only there opinion until proven ( legally )..
Example:
Five people see a crime committed..When asked what happened, each has a different explaination of the "facts" on/of what occurred..
Further, each has a somewhat different description of the person who committed the crime ( this actually happens quite often )..
My question to you, is it "facts" or 'opinions' being expressed by these five individuals of what happened..They all saw the same thing etc..
This is why we have courtrooms and a legal system etc..What maybe considered fact/s, isn't always the case..
You may feel you are stating facts about 'BZTG' ( or some individual involved with this company )..But in reality, it's all only our opinions on this board_not facts..
If any here feel 'BZTG' has lied, made false statements, or violated some ethical or professional standards/obligation/s of 'Pinksheets OTC' market etc..Your always free to file legal suit in court to prove your case..Until then, all you have here are accusations, assumptions, opinions, and/or some hypotheses being spoken/written about etc..Not ( legally proven ) facts..sorry !
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As for 'forward looking statements"..
Example:
Suti Sunn ( Chairperson ) of 'B' Tech Auto believes in two months they can open a retail store front for their business ( based on there financial situation )..They trade on the 'pinksheets' otc..
They put out a 'press release' ( with a disclaimer of "forward looking statement" ) stating in two months they will be opening a store< 'B Tech Auto' >..
Two months later realize they can't meet that objective etc..
Have they lied or made any false statements ? Violated any trading rules or conditions on pinksheets..?
No..
G/L_1
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slojab..( post #15174 )
This isn't about "damage control" for 'BZTG'..But in clarifing differences between fact, opinion, fiction or false statements/accusations about 'BZTG' on this board..
Thx's..1
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'circ-buzz'.. ( post #15176, 15178 )
The issue of this stocks marketplace ( 'pinksheets' ); What that means in relationship to any information, statements released by this company, or trading of shares by this company may mean; maybe of interest to look into_imo..
'Our-Street'..'pennylenny'..
Our-Street..
If you have ten people reading the same press release; Five say it's a "lie" and five say it's the 'truth'; Whats the answer ?
Without any legal action taken ( and none to this point as far as I can see ) your statements of lies and con-man are only opinion, regardless of how you define "forward looking statement" etc..
Big difference between someone's 'opinion' and 'legally proven facts' etc..
You've heard the saying_"Everyone has an opinion" etc..
G/L 1
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'pennylenny'..( Per your post #15171 )If your simply asking an elemental or fundamental trading question_I misunderstood_sorry !
To answer your question_If your cumulative summation of 'BZTG' situation applies_I would simply say, either the stocks price is being manipulated ( not unheard of on 'pinksheets..lol ) or you need 'buyers' at this point..Or both situations apply to some extent etc..
G/L also..1
'Our-Street'..'pennylenny'..
Our-Street..
First your stated post concerning "lies"..
"Lies" maybe go against/violate some religion/s or personal ethical/moral view/s etc..But until any 'accusations' of 'inaccurate or unproven' statements ( as you reference to "lies" ) used by ( any said company ), are found illegal in a court of law..They are only 'forward looking statements' ( generally well intentioned/sometimes not ) by a said company entity..( Pinksheets OTC in this case )
And should not be confused as some illegal "tangible" or material palpable statement of lie/s or perjury etc..
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pennylenny..
My other thought concerns my previous post in the 'reporting of company/s revenue streams'..
There is, in my view, still some confusion of the company entity of 'Buzz Technology Inc' to 'Buzz Inc'..
Even though these/this company has posted press releases stating numerous times that_
"BZTG shareholders are entitled to 1 Buzz Inc share for each Bztg share held. The share capital of Buzz-Inc is exactly the same as Bztg and the company has stated on numerous occasions there will be no dilution of the share capital. The company has also remained debt free and has only 1 class of share, no preferred shares, no charges over assets or any other encumbrances"..
I'm currently not sure of how any stated revenues being reported in 'press releases' pertains to one entity or the other, or both etc..
As with the mining operation press release/s..
I believe that is a 'Buzz Inc.' managed operation_So I'm not sure how these two company entities interact in correlating revenue/cost reporting and/or accounting etc at this time..
Could be of importance in understanding any posted financial numbers/statements or future press releases..1
'pennylenny'..Our-Street..
'pennylenny'..A market-cap of approx $2million in what appears to be, stated revenue streams of multi-millions of dollars, is possibly when cost/expenses currently out-strips revenue by a significant margin..Thus the company is in the 'red'..actually losing money on stated revenue streams etc..
Or the currently 'stated' revenue streams are ( future ) projected ( creative financing ie. 'accounting' revenue/profit numbers "projections" ( unaudited )..
Thats is if, in fact, everything turns out in an ideal way per the companys statements..They maybe/are assuming, at some future point, profits at that stated income level ( return )..
Thx's..1
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Our-Street..
The idea of a scam or illegal activity should/can only be asserted/proven with some tangible or illegal action 'by the/this company'..
As you continue to suggest, it's being run by some "notorious international con man", isn't in itself, any proof that the company is a scam..Nor are "unproven statements" released in 'forward looking' press releases proof etc..
Thxs again..1
'slojab'..
"inside the yellow" tells me nothing, IM1..
Tell(12buzz)..not me ! I didn't draw the map..lol
I believe either you like this stock by now or you don't..Buy it or sell it..It's that simply !
'A mountain out of a mole hill' won't help your cause..
This is considered a 'nano-cap' stock..Investopedia explains 'Nano Cap' as...
Small as you can get! Small public companies having a market capitalization below $50 million. Nano caps are very risky because they are such small companies etc..
BZTG current market-cap is $2,100,000 as of Jan 7, 2009..lol
This is a tiny company by any standards..Lets not beat a dead horse..lol
G/L 2 all_1
Slojab, Our-Street..Your post #15114, #15118, #15120
Slojab post #15114_your quote in that post.."It's just a lot of verbiage about amounts, percentages, assumptions, projections, etc, etc."
To me basically defines, spells out, and reemphasized my position/point that this is simply a 'pinksheets' stock_nothing more..
You should expect nothing more from these stocks..Maybe the NYSE would suit you better..
By the way, if you scroll down on that map link I referenced for you earlier, (12buzz) indicates the area in "yellow" is the mining field..
G/L 1
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Our-Street in post #15118 you state_"modicum of skill" ( ie. required ) lol..Sounds like a 'pinksheets to me !
As for your stated question..
"Think that's the cause of the current slump in price or is it just the economy"?
Pinks do go up and down quite often on there own also..lol
Of interest: ( dated material )
'Sutida Suwannavid', CEO of Buzz Technologies, Inc. (Pink Sheets: BZTG) updated the investment community in an all-new interview with www.wallst.net .
http://www.investorpoint.com/stock/HLT-Hilton+Hotels+Corp./news/4279358/
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Our-Street_as for post #15120..Sounds like a lot of "pump and dump" opinion/conjecture to me..
Later_1
Our-Street, Slojab..
Our-Street..I'd say post #15084 was lots of "pump and dump" directly related to the skill of the pumper..lol
But more intuitively, I'd say that most 'pinksheets' traded are to some degree related to the skill of the principles involved etc..Since, in reality, no pertinent or specific info is required..
It's simply a question of accepting this market, and the stocks traded on it, for what they are..Like them or not ( OR THE PEOPLE INVOLVED ) is actually one reason for trading them..At times it maybe the only reason to buy or sell a 'pinksheets' stock..G/L
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Slojab..You keep looking for, even insisting for information that will not be forth-coming from any 'pinksheets' company..
Of interest..
http://www.buzzme.12buzz.com/_photo/viewimage.php?image=0&folderid=20081212015014&id=12buzz/12buzz
Apparently this is a map of the 'Buzz' mining field you've been asking about..
G/L 1
Thx's 'lowe6er' for posting this latest Buzz Inc business update..And thank you 'Sutida Suwunnavid', "Chairwoman Buzz Technologies Inc" for sharing that information with us shareholders_and interested parties..1
lowe6er, Our-Street, Generic..
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'lowe6er'..Yes I agree that the 'Buzz Inc.' Corporate "Information Memorandum" put out in 2008 was of value to anyone interested in 'BZTG'; And should have been used as a lead in on this site for sometime now imo..
Also found your 'BZTG DD Group Buzz-Inc'/IHUB site interesting..
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=14790
But can't respond/access it due too it being only accessible with premium subscription..
Thx's ! 1
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Our-Street_your post #15054 to my now vanquished post_I would agree with your statement..
"Patience does not favor pink sheet investors"..
As many 'pinksheets' investors discover over time in that market..But neither does 'impatience'..
As for..
"This one already has seen its glory days"..
Maybe_maybe not..lol
As for your continued assault and belittling of this 'Shayne Heffernan' some supposed con-man of BZTG; Which in some seemingly 'idealistic' world of pinksheets, and the people involved, can't be allowed to exist; Isn't a view I specifically subscribe to_sorry ! 1
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Generic..The reference to 'YTNO' was a post by another who's message subsequently got removed..The interest was in the apparent analogy between YTNO business profile and BZTG_at that time..
No other importance was mean't..Thx's 1
pennylenny..lol
You could of actually bought 'BZTG' recently at .0045..And not to sound to optimistic, but lets see in six months or so what your return might be_then you can "ROFLMAO" all you want !
As for the mining and various other business ventures 'Buzz' is currently involved in_I believe all reasons have been addressed in previous pr's..
Thxs_1
Todays Buzz..
http://www.buzzme.12buzz.com/_forum/index.php?sub=14803&cat=3390&threadnumber=645923 #6
http://www.buzzme.12buzz.com/_forum/index.php?sub=40922&cat=1584&threadnumber=648762
http://www.buzzme.12buzz.com/_forum/index.php?sub=14804&cat=3390&threadnumber=647867 #5
BUZZ TECHNOLOGIES INC (OTC) (USOTC:BZTG)
Last Price (USD) $ 0.009
Change 0.0042 (87.50%)
Bid 0.008
Ask 0.009
Volume 951,350
Day's Range 0.004 - 0.009
Last Trade:14:18:47 EST Dec-29-08
Thx's for that 'Our-Street'..
I believe what is intended to be in an 'ideal world' and what is the reality of 'Pinks OTC', could explain "forward looking statement/s" verses ie. "lies" in that market..
I wouldn't say there is a "huge" difference between a 'forward looking statement' and a 'fraudulent, misleading, deceptive or inaccurate statement' more commonly known as a "lie" on 'pinksheets' as you suggest..Some could say the lines blur quite frequently on this non-reporting seemingly unregulated market between truth or dare to believe..lol
Proving a lie on 'Pinks OTC' isn't something I worry too much about..
G/L
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'SEC' definition of 'Pinks OTC'..
Pink OTC Markets, formerly known as Pink Sheets, operates Pink Quote, an electronic quotation system that displays quotes from broker dealers for many over-the-counter (OTC) securities. "Market makers" and other brokers who buy and sell OTC securities, can use the Pink Quote to publish their bid and ask quotation prices. The name "Pink Sheets" comes from the color of paper they were historically printed on. They are published electronically today by Pink OTC Markets Inc., a privately owned company. Pink OTC Markets Inc. is not registered with the SEC in any way and it is not the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority (FINRA) Broker-Dealer. Pink OTC Markets Inc. does not require companies whose securities are quoted upon its systems to meet any listing requirements. With the exception of a few foreign issuers, the companies quoted in Pink Quote tend to be closely held, extremely small and/or thinly traded. Most do not meet the minimum listing requirements for trading on a national securities exchange, such as the New York Stock Exchange or the Nasdaq Stock Market. Many of these companies do not file periodic reports or audited financial statements with the SEC, making it very difficult for investors to find reliable, unbiased information about those companies. For all of these reasons, companies quoted in Pink Quote can be among the most risky investments. That's why you should take extra care to thoroughly research any company quoted exclusively in the Pink Quote. Be aware that some broker-dealers are required by Rule 15c2-11 under the 1934 Act to have some information about the issuer. Ask your broker-dealer whether it has any Rule 15c2-11 information before you invest.
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And further explained on Wikipedia..
Pink Quote, informally known as the Pink Sheets, is an electronic quotation system operated by Pink OTC Markets that displays quotes from broker-dealers for many over-the-counter securities. Market makers and other brokers can use Pink Quote to publish their bid and ask quotation prices. Starting in 1913, and prior to the creation of the electronic system in 2000, these quotes were printed on pink colored paper by the National Quotation Bureau. The term Pink Sheets is also used to refer to a market tier within the current Pink Quote system.
The Pink Sheets is not a stock exchange. To be quoted in the Pink Sheets, companies do not need to fulfill any requirements (e.g. filing financial statements with the SEC). With the exception of foreign issuers, mostly represented by ADRs, the companies quoted in the Pink Sheets tend to be closely held, extremely small, or thinly traded. Most do not meet the minimum U.S. listing requirements for trading on a stock exchange such as the New York Stock Exchange. Many of these companies do not file periodic reports or audited financial statements with the SEC, making it very difficult for investors to find reliable, unbiased information about those companies.
For these reasons the SEC views companies listed on Pink Sheets as "among the most risky investments" and advises potential investors to heavily research the companies in which they plan to invest.
Buying Pink Sheets shares is supposed to be difficult. Broker-dealers are enjoined to weed-out unsophisticated investors who may get an e-mail or word-of-mouth tip about a small stock. Many Pink Sheets stocks may only be registered for sale in one state so that the only way to purchase the stock is to make a DRIP/business/unsolicited/accredited or other sophisticated form of investment. Many registered representatives do not even know how or if they can sell them.
Pink Sheets market tier
Effective August 1, 2007, all Pink Sheets traded companies that are not able or willing to meet the standards of OTCQX will be placed in one of the following disclosure categories. Designed to increase the amount of information available in all Pink Sheets traded companies, the disclosure categories do not signify issuer quality or merit of any security. Categorization is based on the level and timeliness of a company's disclosure and any category can include speculative, distressed, or questionable companies. Investors are encouraged to use caution when considering these companies for investment. [1]
Current Information
Indicates reporting companies that submit filings to regulators with powers of review and that make the filings publicly available or non-reporting companies that make current information publicly available on the Pink Sheets News Service. The Current Information category is based on the level of disclosure and is not a designation of quality or investment risk. This category includes shell companies or development stage companies with little or no operations as well as companies without audited financial statements and as such should be considered extremely speculative by investors.
Limited Information
Is designed for companies with financial reporting problems, economic distress, or in bankruptcy to make the limited information they have publicly available. The Limited Information category also includes companies that may not be troubled, but are unwilling to meet Pink Sheets' Guidelines for Providing Adequate Current Information. Companies in this category have limited financial information not older than six months available on the Pink Sheets News Service or have made a filing on the SEC's EDGAR system in the previous six months.
No Information
Indicates companies that are not able or willing to provide disclosure to the public markets - either to a regulator, a stock exchange or Pink Sheets. Companies in this category do not make Current Information available via Pink Sheets News Service, or if they do, the available information is older than six months. This category includes defunct companies that have ceased operations as well as 'dark' companies with questionable management and market disclosure practices. Publicly traded companies that are not willing to provide information to investors should be treated with suspicion and their securities should be considered highly risky.
Caveat Emptor - Buyer Beware
There is a public interest concern associated with the company, which may include a spam campaign, stock promotion or known investigation of fraudulent activity committed by the company or insiders. During a spam campaign, any stock that is not in the Current Information category will also have its quotes blocked on pinksheets.com.
'pennylenny'..Thx's for that !
You question..
"company says they have audited financials for going public. they do not go public, so why not release the financials now"?
First_from what I've heard so far..Any financial/s that will be released won't happen until if and when/after any 'IPO' takes place..
Second_the financials will not be stated using "Generally Accepted Accounting Principles" (GAAP)
http://gaap-standard-accounting-practices.suite101.com/article.cfm/what_is_gaap
They will instead be issue in/under some other form/non-standard format etc..
You further state..
"company has announced a stock buyback. how much money are they going to put towards the buyback"?
From the recent company press release "Buzz Technologies Inc (OTC:BZTG): Update" Dec 22, 2008 listed on 'Pinksheets' 'BZTG' News_the following is stated..
..Buzz instituted a share repurchase program because the Board believed that the market price of the Company not fully reflect the underlying value of the Company's business and its future business prospects. An update on the share repurchase program will be provided in the Company in Feb/March 2009..
It looks like further information about this "stock buy-back" will be forth-coming..The information your looking for maybe available then..
You further state..to "become fully reporting" etc..
I'll only say that as long as this stock is listed on/trades on the "Pinksheets", there won't be any "full reporting" of anything..lol Only 'Forward looking statements' etc..imo
As for your stated question of..
"Shayne is not running the company. OK, who is Sean Lee? or anyone else identified as being associated with the company"?
First I like to say that this ie. "Shayne Heffernan" could still be this 'illustrious' aka. Sean Lee/12buzz/Capt.Jack..my only point with my previous post, is that 'source credibility' is as important as the stated material/accusation/claims etc..
And since I already know who 'aka. Sean Lee/12buzz/Capt.Jack' is..the question is really mute for me..but don't ask me to tell this..Those who claim that 'aka. Sean Lee/12buzz/Capt.Jack' is 'Shayne Heffernan'; need to do so in a "credibly accepted fashion" ie. 'credible source'..
As you state..
"so send us all some holiday cheer by providing facts rather than personal attacks"..
To that I'll say I agree with 'MrSmith1', that this stock will have a interesting and successful 2009 year..It currently is a 'buy' imo; but don't expect anything more than 'forward looking statements' as information to be released by them..
G/L
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'Pinksheets' is a players market with 'Forward looking statements' that some refer to as lies..
This market isn't for amateur investors..1
'Our-Street'..'hobogold'..
Our-Street_your post #14979
"It's me"_doesn't answer the question of who anyone is exactly..Maybe more accurate/precise 'background info' would be better suited for this information etc.
'Qualifications/Credibility'_needs clarifying/qualifing/quantifying ie. proof/credits/background references etc..
'Reputation'_needs any credits and references be shown; Including 'SEC' suits/internet background information, both pro and con, ie. referenced etc..
To 'believe them/what they say or claim'_all the above questions need to be answered completely, accurately and then proved..Not personal assertions and self opinions expressed..Also any assertions, expressed as fact, need to be proven and referenced..Not assumptions or hearsay expressed as facts..
Thx's for that !
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'hobogold'..lol Your colorful use and spelling of the english language is fun..Also your expressed opinions of 'BZTG' brings a different and fresh perspective to investing in this stock..
Thx's for that ! G/L
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'Pinksheets' is a players market with 'Forward looking statements' that some refer to as lies..
This market isn't for amateur investors..1
'lowe6er'..'Our-Street'..'MrSmith1'..
lowe6er_Thx's for your post #14961 concerning 'Buzz Technologies Inc'..
I for one, don't understand how anyone can make accusations about someone else without assuming the basic underlying fundamental principles/questions people need answered first for any legitimate point/s to be made..
Such as..
Who is the person making such claims/accusations/statements of assumed fact etc
What qualifies/qualifications does this person have to be making the claims/accusations/statements as facts etc_there making ?
What reputation/credibility does this person bring to make such/any such ( radical ) statements/accusations/claims about someone else_they don't seem to know themselves etc..
Why should anyone believe them and what they say or claim etc..?
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Pinksheets is a 'players market'..'Forward looking statements' that some refer to as lies..lol
The market isn't for amateur investors..
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'MrSmith1'_You know your stuff..Traders can make money on 'pinksheets' if they 'learn the rules' on how the 'game is played'..
Thx's ( again ) for your comments ! 1
Our-Street statement about 'Buzz Technologies Inc' listed on "Pinksheets" that..
"The pinks will come back and two kinds of stocks will be revived. Pump and dumps managed or controlled by professional stock pumpers...and (real ? undefined..) companies managed by people with real names and that disclose truthfully to the market..
That sounds about right..
But then you continue to say..
("and don't publish lies with impunity..and have a loyal shareholder base")
Not so sure about that statement_assumption/opinion at best !
As for your reference to this 'aka. Sean Lee/Capt.Jack/12buzz' as a "Notorious International Con Man named Shayne Heffernan"..
Still conjecture, supposition, and hypothesize opinion without 'foundational credibilty'..Need that foundational information also_very important to make a legitimate point!
As for 'BZTG' on pinksheets, probably doesn't really make any difference..lol
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Slojab..Thx's for that..
If you'll post #14912 on top of board and leave it there_Will get that info and current status of investor your interested..1
'Slojab'/'Our-Street'..and below 'MRSMITH1'
The assumption that somehow informational company press release/s by 'Buzz Tech Inc' (pinksheets), that you can't personally verify or prove are true_makes them untrue or a lie, is in my opinion, 'absurd'..lol
As for your statements that some "Shayne Heffernan", who's 'not' a listed company officer, ( correct ! ) or may or may not have some controlling interest in this company ( ie. running the company from behind the scenes ); And is in your opinion/s, some 'con-man' majority shareholder ..Has no 'foundational credibilty' as of yet..
Whether or not this "Shayne Heffernan" is ( again as you both seem to suggest ) a "con-man", and/or a shareholder in this company_actually means little on this exchange (ie. "Pinksheets" )..
The stock trades legitimately_the company exist_period..
This again is a "pinksheets stock"..My post # 14912 gives a pretty fair overview of what that means in todays trading/this exchange environment..
'BZTG' is a gamble, and is a 'pinksheets' stock"..Is correct Slojab..
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MRSMITH1..Last but not least..
Your assumption and last post/s, in my opinion, pretty much and accurately sums up the current downturn in, and condition of, the stock markets..Even quality stocks lost 60% to 90% in value and are just beginning to recover from this severe market downturn and financial sector collapse..
I also agree 'BZTG' will recover and shine once more as this recovery gets underway..
Some here who believe they are the reason/responsible for the 'Buzz' stock pulling back during this time, have what I would term "grandiose idea's of themselves"..lol
Thx's for that !
Spend some money, our economy needs it ! Happy Holidays everyone !
I get 'one' post per-day on this board..Later 1
'Our-Street'..
Opinion, assumption/s, unproven non-credible accusations, etc..
Don't see any 'Shayne Heffernan' listed as a company officer of 'BZTG' either..
'BZTG' is a strong buy..and is a 'pinksheets' stock..1
Interesting find by slojab..Below link is the 'IHUB' board for 'YTNO'..
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=14694
As for the 'Buzz' planned 'IPO' or 'audited financial's' etc..
No informational press releases on pinksheets is necessary for either_contrary to what some here seem to be thinking..
As for another 'pump and run-up' etc..Pinksheets stocks are 'notorious' for doing the unexpected..This stock could actually see .30 or higher sometime..It's all in the pump and run that actually matters..Dead stock come back to life also_especially on pinksheets..G/L
Till tomorrow then..
Slojab..If you care too..please include post#14912 at the top of this board also..Thx's 1
Thx's 'pennylenny'..1
'Our-Street'..lol..As you have stated here many times now, 'BZTG' isn't what you term a legitimate company; is more like, ie. "a scam" etc..So why say now that "Pink Sheets are a trading system for legitimate companies who cannot yet justify the expense of reporting and auditing"..As 'Buzz Technologies Inc.' trades legitimately on pinksheets daily..
As for your statement_
"intent on trying to legitimize BZTG and Shayne's lies as what the Pink Sheets were designed for"..
Missed the point somewhat, and twisted the inference/meaning made..
Basically, it's important to see the 'pinksheets exchange' for what it really is and has become; Accept 'BZTG' and any other listed pinksheets stock for what they are etc..
Viewing the 'Investopedia' definition/description of 'The Lowdown On Penny Stocks' pg.2 and a 'Pretty In Pink Sheets' summation by John Devcic, pretty well shows/describes a somewhat more dynamic pinksheets exchange than, as you quoted, "a trading system for legitimate companies who cannot yet justify the expense of reporting and auditing"..But I think you already know this..
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The Lowdown On Penny Stocks (Page 2 of 2)
The Problem for Investors
Penny stocks have been a thorn in the side of the SEC for some time because lack of available information and poor liquidity make micro cap stocks an easy target for fraudsters. There are many different ways these people will try to part you from your money, but here are two of the most common:
Biased Recommendations – Some micro cap companies pay individuals to recommend the company stock in different media, i.e. newsletters, financial television and radio shows. You may receive spam email trying to persuade you to purchase particular stock. All emails, postings and recommendations of that kind should be taken with a grain of salt. Look to see if the issuers of the recommendations are being paid for their services as this is a giveaway of a bad investment. Also make sure that any press releases aren't given falsely by people looking to influence the price of a stock.
Offshore Brokers– Under regulation S, the SEC permits companies selling stock outside the U.S. to foreign investors to be exempt from registering stock. These companies will typically sell the stock at a discount to offshore brokers who, in turn, sell them back to U.S. investors for a substantial profit. By cold calling a list of potential investors (investors with enough money to buy a particular stock) and providing attractive information, these dishonest brokers will use high-pressure "boiler room" sales tactics to persuade investors to purchase stock.
Buying These Stocks
Two common fallacies pertaining to penny stocks are that many of today's stocks were once penny stocks and that there is a positive correlation between the number of stocks a person owns and his or her returns.
Investors who have fallen into the trap of the first fallacy believe Wal-Mart, Microsoft and many other large companies were once penny stocks that have appreciated to high dollar values. Many investors make this mistake because they are looking at the "adjusted stock price", which takes into account all stock splits. By taking a look at both Microsoft and Wal-Mart, you can see that the respective prices on their first days of trading were $28 and $25 even though the prices adjusted for splits is $0.09722 and $0.02444 (at time of writing). Rather than starting at a low market price, these companies actually started pretty high, continually rising until they needed to be split.
The second reason that many investors may be attracted to penny stocks is the notion that there is more room for appreciation and more opportunity to own more stock. If a stock is at $0.10 and rises by $0.05, you will have made a 50% return. This together with the with the fact that a $1,000 investment can buy 10,000 shares convinces investors that micro cap stock are a rapid surefire way to increase profits. For some reason, people think of the upside but forget about the downside. A $0.10 stock can just as easily go down $0.05 and lose half its value. Most often, these stocks do not succeed, and there is a high probability that you will lose your entire investment.
Conclusion
Sure, some companies on the OTCBB and pink sheets might be good quality, and many OTCBB companies are working extremely hard to make their way up to the more reputable Nasdaq and NYSE. However, the flip-side is that there are many good opportunities in stocks that aren't trading for pennies. You need to understand that this is a high-risk area that isn't suitable for all investors. If you can't resist the lure of micro caps, make sure you do extensive research and understand what you are getting into.
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Pretty In Pink Sheets
by John Devcic
The pink sheets are an over-the-counter (OTC) market that connects broker-dealers electronically. There is no trading floor, and the quotations are also all done electronically. Since there is no central trading floor or stock exchange like the NYSE, the pink sheets-listed companies do not have the same criteria to fulfill as the companies listed on national stock exchanges. In this article we'll describe what pink sheets securities are, along with their risks and potential benefits. And, while Molly Ringwald may not have chosen to wear this shade to her prom, investors should grab onto these up-and-coming stocks before they hit it big too.
Listing Requirements
Pink sheets-listed companies have no requirement to be listed. All a company needs to do to get listed on the pink sheets is submit a form, entitled Form 211, with the OTC Compliance Unit. Usually this is done on behalf of a company by a market maker. The form must have current financial information. The more willing a company is to show its books, the easier it is for a broker-dealer to quote a price for that company. Some companies will make it easier and others will not - they are under no obligation to do so, and because of this, transparency is not comparable to financials for exchange-listed companies.
Pink sheets-listed companies are usually very small, tightly held and may also be thinly traded. The most difficult part about the pink sheets-listed companies is many of them do not even file annual or periodic reports with the Securities & Exchange Commission (SEC). This can make it very difficult - if not nearly impossible - for an average investor to get any real information regarding these companies. (To learn more, check out SEC Filings: Forms You Need To Know.)
OTCBB Vs. Pink Sheets
You may have seen the term "OTCBB" on a stock quote, which stands for Over-the-Counter Bulletin Board. The OTCBB is a quotation service that also lists over-the-counter securities. The pink sheets are a privately held company, while the Nasdaq owns and operates the OTCBB.
The other difference between the pink sheets and OTCBB is that there are stricter standards for OTCBB. OTCBB issuers have to register with the SEC. For the purpose of this article we will only discuss the pink sheets quotation system. (To read more about the OTCBB, see Spot Hotshot Penny Stocks.)
Advantages And Risks Associated With Pink Sheets
Advantages
The biggest advantage of trading pink sheets is that they are very inexpensive per share - some cost even less than $1. Because of this, even penny moves can mean a great return for an investor because of the higher volatility levels. (For related reading, see Catching A Lift On The Penny Express.)
Another advantage is finding a once-strong company that has subsequently been beaten down. If a company was once listed on a major exchange like the NYSE, but has been delisted because it no longer meets certain requirements, an investor could buy shares of that company with the hope it could make a comeback. Usually, a company is delisted because of a major financial event that makes the company's future bleak. (For further information, check out The Dirt On Delisting.)
Being early to a party may not be hip, but being early on a rising stock certainly is. When it comes to pink sheets-listed companies, you can invest in a small company that may not be nationally known. Investing in this company can be quite profitable if it continues to grow; it may even end up on a major exchange in the future.
Another advantage of pink sheets firms is the introduction of a new classification or tier system for differentiating stocks. These tiers make it easier to steer clear of the higher-risk companies listed on the pink sheets market. (To read about other stock-classification systems, see GICS Vs. ICB: Competing Systems For Classifying Stocks.)
Disadvantages
One should not forget that there are many disadvantages for investors to consider as well. First and foremost is limited information. Pink sheets-listed companies do not need to report any information to investors. This can make it difficult to know what you're buying and how the company is doing over time.
Thinly traded companies are another disadvantage. Sure, you can buy 1,000 shares of the next Microsoft, but what if you made a nice profit and want to sell? When a stock is thinly traded, the chances of getting out without driving the price down are slim. No matter what the market, if you can't find a buyer, you won't get out of your position, and this is an even more difficult situation when it comes to pink sheets-listed companies. Bid-ask spreads are very high, and high bid-ask spreads can make it difficult to initiate a position in the stock. (To read more, see The Basics Of The Bid-Ask Spread.)
Investors also have to be aware that these companies are not usually covered by analysts. If you read financial papers or watch financial shows, they rarely - if ever - cover a company that is not listed on a major exchange. This requires a lot more due diligence on the part of the investor to locate information. Of course, that information may or may not be worthwhile in the end. (For further reading, check out Due Diligence In 10 Easy Steps.)
The Pink Sheets Tier System
The pink sheets system now has market tiers in order to list the companies by their "hazard" or risk level. The tiers allow the investor to quickly get an idea of what kind of company he or she is buying.
Trusted Tier
The first tier contains both international and U.S. companies that the pink sheets OTC market has deemed trustworthy and more investor friendly. Here are components in this tier:
International Premier QX: These companies are based overseas and are listed on an international exchange, but they still meet the financial requirements of the NYSE Worldwide Listing Standards. These companies establish an independent audit as well as providing immediate certification by the CEO of any non-compliance with corporate governance. These companies, while listed in another country on another exchange, still provide the NYSE with a written and updated notification of their corporate-governance practices.
Premiere QX: These are companies listed in the U.S. only that meet the Nasdaq's Capital Market continued listing standards. These companies may or may not report to the SEC, yet they still follow all of the guidelines listed by the Nasdaq.
Transparent Tier
This tier is lower than the Trusted tier and is made up of:
Pink Quote OTCBB: These companies are listed in both the pink sheets system and the OTCBB. The bulk of all OTC stocks will be dually listed. The OTCBB requires these companies to report to the SEC frequently.
OTCBB Only: This is obvious, as these are companies only listed on the OTCBB market.
Current Information: These are companies that are providing information with either the SEC or the OTC Disclosure and News Service. This information is no more than six months old. In order for companies to stay at this tier and not be moved down, they need to have filed a quarterly or annual report within 75 days after the last quarter has ended. The pink sheets OTC market will verify that the information has been posted.
Distressed Tier
This tier is not for the faint of heart. Companies falling in this tier will all be listed under:
Limited Information: These are companies that fit one of the following criteria:
They have information that is available to the general public but is older than six months and does not usually conform to the pink sheets OTC-market guidelines.
These companies could also have filed with the SEC but have not updated their information.
You will also see companies here if they have filed information with the OTC Disclosure and News Service. They must have, at a minimum, a balance sheet, income statement and shares outstanding within the last six months.
Companies that have gone bankrupt will also appear on this list. These newly bankrupt companies are required to file information with the OTC Disclosure and News Service promptly.
Dark/Defunct Tier
There are two types of companies that will fall into this memorably named tier:
No Information: You will see this category listed with a stop sign as a symbol. These are companies that are defunct or have not filed any information with either the SEC or the OTC Disclosure and News Service within the last six months. These companies are the ones that you need to be very cautious about.
Gray Market: The symbol for the gray market is an exclamation point. Companies in this category do not have a market maker. These companies are listed on neither the OTCBB nor the pink sheets. This category has no market transparency. Trades in this category are made by a broker-dealer and reported to their self-regulatory organization (SRO). The SRO will distribute the trade information, which is how prices can be tracked.
Toxic Tier
This tier advertises its extreme risk level by having a skull-and-crossbones symbol. There is only one category in this group:
Caveat Emptor: The title says it all: "Buyer beware." The Caveat Emptor tier is described on the pink sheets website as consisting of "stocks that are the subject of unsolicited spam, questionable promotion, regulatory suspensions, disruptive corporate actions (including reverse mergers), or other public-interest concerns." These are companies that are either scams or not actual businesses. (To read about how pink sheet investing can go wrong, see Wham Bam Micro-Cap Scam.)
A Word About Brokers
If you are interested in investing in the pink sheets stocks you will need to find a broker. If you already have a brokerage account, chances are the broker will allow you to trade pink sheets stocks, although some brokerage firms only allow seasoned clients trading privileges in the pink sheets market. They will also ask you to sign an additional form that says you understand the risks associated with trading pink sheets stocks. A lot of investors like to use a different broker with better rates - some will charge a flat fee and others will charge a different fee to trade pink sheets stocks. (Read more about brokerage fees in Fee-Based Brokerage: The Latest Target For Regulators.)
Conclusion
You should not forget that there are many companies listed that are not interested in giving out information, and investing in them can mean losing all of the money you invested. The biggest appeal of pink sheets companies is their low price, and they are attractive to those investors that really want to get in on the ground floor of an up-and-coming company. Understanding the risks and the potential for losing your entire investment will allow you to make better decisions regarding these most speculative stocks.
Pink sheets have come a long way, and with the help of the expanding OTC markets, more information and some standards have been set to help investors find out about the companies listed on the pink sheets. The introduction of a new tier system will only make those other legitimate companies listed in the pink sheets market better equipped to attract investors. Pay very careful attention to the tier system that the pink sheets market has set up, and consult an investment professional to help steer you in the right direction before taking the plunge on pink sheets stocks.
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As for 'libel' {ie."it only is libel if it involves lying"}..The following links have an accurate and legal definition of 'libel'..For specific examples of yours in this regard, I'll leave that up to you too research..
http://dictionary.law.com/default2.asp?selected=1153
http://www.medialaw.org/Content/NavigationMenu/Public_Resources/Libel_FAQs/Libel_FAQs.htm#What%20is%20Libel?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation
Thx's again_1
Pretty close slojab_or when you actually, are lucky and make money..Eitherway a huge gamble most times and definitely not for 'naive amateur investors'..G/L 1
'slojab'..See my post to pennylenny on the 'BZTG' board for that answer..Post #14909
Thx's_1
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=34168330
'pennylenny'..Nice to hear from you..
The inference to my previous post wasn't to support or defend Buzz Technologies Inc as being anymore legitimate than anyother "pinksheets" listed company..
More like that many listed 'pinksheets' are scams..They are volatile..Trading them is high risk at best..But that doesn't mean advanced or experienced traders/investors shouldn't discount playing this market; As the rewards are sometimes as large as the risk involved..
My point was that this is a very high risk investment market..With no guarantee's..Information isn't usually non-verifiable or not specifically credible..Verified financial information is usually also non-existent etc..
It's a 'play at your own risk' investment..
Thx's again and G/L ! 1
http://www.investopedia.com/articles/03/050803.asp
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/n/nanocap.asp