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ROACH, RIPLEYSMOM, EREPTOR .... I GET THEM? 4 RECEIVED SO FAR THIS MONTH.
Providing you are talking about the generic sort of email pr's that come from Osprey/Mulshine. I just assumed that everyone would be receiving these. I received them as follows on the listed topics:
JULY 6/07
Phoenix acquires Southern Concrete Crushing LLC.
JULY10/07
Phoenix acquires Superior Avionics.
JULY 11/07
Phoenix acquires Jet Aviation Services.
JULY 13/07
Phoenix to acquire offshore investment firm etc. etc.
Just a possibility; my email program does flag these messages as spam even though it's not a sender that I have blocked. Just an idea but check to see if you have osprey57@optonline.net white listed.
If you like I will let you know when I receive the next one; that way you can check to see whether or not they're getting through to you! Regards to all.
$crooge
Thanks SC
The next few weeks should provide some interesting developments as hopefully headquarters will expand upon the information given thus far in recent pr's. Then of course we have the other perhaps more relevant information due by mid August which will hopefully provide some of the clarity that we're hoping for.
Hope you have an awesome day.
$crooge
ROACH! Isn't that the deal that was supposed to make PBLS
a conglomerate that would be effectively bigger than Florida Rock? While I've got your attention I wonder why there is so little talk about Florida Rock being acquired by Vulcan Materials last week, in a deal reportedly worth $4.6 Billion.
Should be an interesting week.
$crooge
MRDALE ..... DIDN'T THE GREAT MOUSTACHED ONE TRY THAT?
Seem to remember a little man with a horrible moustach who ran amuck in Europe 60-70 years ago burning books he didn't like. Don't think it worked out very well for him though. Obviously you jest!
$crooge
MRDALE ..... YOUR PROBABLY RIGHT!
I didn't experience the war or any direct consequences of it unlike my older brother who was born a year after you. The easier fifties formed my outlook on life and what we saw on the telly did have some influence. As I got older I realized that it wasn't so much that people were better in the 40-50's but more that they were portrayed that way by a Hollywood that insisted on a pretty strict moral code.
That code is long gone now and thats why you can't let your young children watch most of todays movies or television programs. Don't get me wrong I like some of the new stuff but I honestly prefer watching Wayne, Cooper, Bogart, Fonda, Stewart, Peck, Mitchum, Stanwick, Loy, Davis or Crawford and on and on.. Not necessarily because they were better people; I just think they were better actors and story tellers.
At the end of the day I guess all we can do is be the best we can be and hope it makes some small difference. Got to go to Blockbuster and see if they have "Spencers Mountain" Hey! Henry Fonda, it has to be worth watching.
Have a great evening.
$crooge
LONGS HOLDING - PBLS WANTS WHAT THEY HAVE?
Or at least a significant portion of it. Do the longs have more control than they realize and are they in danger of loosing that control?
I think the longs control a lot {mega millions} of PBLS shares and I think for the most part they are holding firm. It might also be true that most of the longs are no longer comfortable enough to add to their already huge positions and some may even be selling a little {2-3% as a group}. So the longs could be limiting supply via their huge holdings while simultaneously not creating much demand because they are no longer buying.
Potential new investors will likely want to wait a while and see if the PBLS ship starts to right itself before they invest. All this adds up to a stagnant SP. The only thing that will move the price is:
Bad News + More Innuendo = DOWN
Good News + Clarification = UP
One thing that is a bit unsettling is this; If the principals at PBLS honestly believe the stock will be worth "north of $1" within a year or so then why aren't they buying back as many shares as they can at these penny prices {or are they}? Too bad we can't find out who is doing the buying right now.
2 questions for you:
Are any committed longs here currently adding?
Are there any folks here who are new to PBLS - just bought in?
If not then who is buying the shares that are sold each day, I know the volume is not heavy but say what $10M/day maybe. If they are being snapped up by a PBLS entity rather than by individual investors then it wouldn't take long to put together a significant holding! What a thought! The longs do have control but they don't know it and without realizing it they relinquish that contol.
HOW CAN WE FIND OUT WHO IS BUYING?
Come on PBLS detectives.......... UNITE!
Just my thoughts.
$crooge
MRDALE ......... IF I CAN FIND A TIME MACHINE!
Would you be interested?
Just think The Shadow, Fibber McGee & The Lone Ranger just to name a few and just look at the great memories you have. If you really enjoy life circa 1930-40's check out "The Waltons" on DVD. It delivers a great warm feel for another time and life around the Radio plays a big part in this series.
Actually I am a bigger fan of early television series, especially the old westerns.
Yea! It was pretty tough back then; not having to lock your doors at night; you might hear about 2-3 murders happening in some other far off place within any given year; where you knew all your neighbours by name and on and on.
To me it sounds like Utopia lost and I would seriously consider taking the first "Wagon Train" back.
Enjoy the rest of your weekend.
$crooge
HAPPY TRAILS TO YOU UNTIL WE MEET AGAIN!
Looks as though everyone is finished for the evening, this might even be the last post. Wasn't there a great old western about the last post? I can't help but wonder where Ted is! Sorry, never mind. I sincerely look forward to whatever you kids have to say tomorrow.
Night all!
$crooge
ROACH! YOU SLAY ME!
They really don't know what they are dealing with do they?
I could choose 12 brave souls from this humble forum and utilizing their unique abilities devise a viable plan to enslave the world within 5 short years.
Now really! Aren't they only trying to develop a successful Company within that time frame? Oh! dealing with mere mortals can be frustrating! Watch out for the purple lights my friend and do have a great weekend. You can tell it's getting late.
DPOTI pour vous s'il vous plait. Oui,oui monsouir DP!
$crooge
UH! OH!
If we are being monitored we better change the way we communicate real quick. Where's Detective McLean when you need him anyhow? I'm playin it safe, from now on it's quack, Quaack, Qwak, Cowboy or pkalk, pkalk, phaak to Pnew and our brethern in the cage.
Just some late night humor! Oh! really Rochester! "Well I could come up with some new sort of binary code that they might not be able to decypher at PBLS headquarters so easily as common english." Say goodnight Rochester! "Goodnight Mr. Benny!"
Quack Quack......... quack!
Ripleysmom ....... Thank you for your kind comments!
You know I never really considered that a Company rep. might actually take the time to read the many posts that are made on a board like this, regarding the day to day perception of their Company. Actually when you think about it, what better way to get a feel {good/bad} for the way you are being perceived within the ranks. After all most entities who post here are not exactly what I would think of as "a couple of fries short of a happy meal." I mean some of the d/d and other technical work done by particular members of this board quite frankly amazes me. I'm still trying to find the link to get to Google and some of our compatriots are retreiving classified documents from Endora.
Perhaps the truth is that the longs represented on this board and others control more of this particular Company through share possession than the Company prefers.
Perhaps the Company has been doing their best to end this control by bullying/confusing/frustrating the longs to cash in.
Perhaps they are not winning that battle because the longs here perceive far more than they imagine and are determined to HOLD.
Perhaps I should stop now; after all I did just want to say thaks for your kind remarks. I do hope to hear from you again.
$crooge
COWBOY ..... pbls = a conglomerate?
I remember reading one of the posts last week that quoted one of the Companys principals as saying they were in the process of assembling a "Conglomerate" which was effectively bigger than Florida Rock. Did you happen to catch that post? If so what do you think of it?
Apparently Vulcan Materials acquired Florida Rock last week for a reported $4.6 Billion. So do they want us to believe we are in that sort of ball park?
Interesting idea about the Ihub's PBLS members = an investment group.
Take care.
$crooge
Little PPS Movement = Not Enough Razzmatazz?
Boy! 5 days away can sure get you out of touch; especially if you like to look at all the posts you missed. You never know someone may have cracked the PBLS code or something; notwithstanding, lots of good technical analysis offered this past week along with the usual plethora of theories as to why this baby isn't moving.
As to the lack of movement in PPS I think there are a number of factors at play: REALITY, PROMOTION, PERCEPTION & TRUST.
REALITY:
The reality is that we as investors do not presently have a clear vision of where this Company is going nor how they plan to get there. We believe that the Company has real assets which could eventually make it a profitable stock to own but in the here and now there are too many gray areas. Things such as: current Companies owned by PBLS, details on share structure, a gagged t/a and last but not least rampant speculation are at this time enough to keep the PPS static.
PROMOTION:
For a Company to experience accelerated growth they need to have a self promoting element in place to effectively manage the release of news to the shareholders and the public at large. When news is released to us it seems to cause as much confusion as good will. Companies with much less in terms of real potential are experiencing sustained growth simply because they have mastered self promotion. If PBLS is serious about "Kicking it up a Notch" any time soon they must address this void in their operation by putting a qualified entity in charge of COMPANY PROMOTION.
PERCEPTION:
It's what we think of the Company and it is largely formed by the information we are {or are not} receiving from the Company regarding the issues previously mentioned. You can easily see what we think of the Company by reading the posts here and on other boards. The sentiments vary: optomistic, pessimistic, betrayed, hopeful, fed up and everything in between.
It's what potential investors think of the Company and that is not only being formed by what they get from the Company, which is exactly what we get from the Company but it is also formed by what they glean from boards like this one. Don't get me wrong here I think these boards have great value for us as shareholders in sharing information and in tough times there is likely a therapeutic value as well. However at this time if I were a potential new investor considering PBLS I would see what is coming from the Company and then I would see what current investors think and I would very likely take a pass at this time because there are TOO MANY UNKNOWNS!
We may be having an unintentional part {or not so unintentional} in the current PPS funk. When some people with massive holdings are clearly dissalusioned, others tend to pay attention. This is in no way meant as a put down to those who currently have some negative sentiments; those feelings are many times justified. Rather I am simply stating what I beleive the likely impact will be on those looking in on us for an ethereal sense of what's going on; this in part to validate any decision they may make regarding an investment in PBLS. Honestly, what would you do right now? The current market tells the story; I think it's about supply & demand = CSP.
TRUST:
I believe that trust must be earned and the best way to do that is to be truthful. A Company like PBLS making all kinds of mistakes can still become a huge success so long as the investors believe the information being released by the Company. A series of structured lies {there are no innocent lies} could bring the house crashing down.
So we find ourselves in an awkward position because we have already invested here believing there was great potential but are we still willing to TRUST THIS COMPANY AND OR THE PRINCIPALS BEHIND IT OR IS OUR TRUST WANING?
In this present circumstance the burden falls entirely upon the Company to right the ship so to speak, by lifting the veil on all relevant issues that are obvious concerns for their shareholders and potential new investors. We can do little but react as we will to what information we are given and hope for the best.
I remain cautiously optomistic but there must be some quantum changes in direction over the next few months if we are to experience any significant, prolonged growth. NUMBER ONE ON THE LIST REMAINS EFFECTIVE, TRUTHFUL COMMUNICATION; EVEN A LITTLE RAZZMATAZZ WOULD BE WELCOME!
Just the weekend ramblings of an old bird; I do hope this will all work itself out soon and we can get back to being our usual optomistic, incredibly witty and charming selves. In the meantime, keep up the good posts people!
Hope all of you have a great weekend.
$crooge
wererabbit....... actually wouldn't it cost $14M to buy $1B shares?
$crooge
TAINT ........ VULCAN TO ACQUIRE FLORIDA ROCK?
Been away most of the week; just trying to catch up on a lot of missed posts.
Were you aware that Vulcan Materials is set to acquire Florida Rock in a deal reportedly worth $4.6 Billion? That would rate as a substantial deal, yes!
If my memory severs me right last week someone posted that in a conversation with either PA or RB concerning comparisons being made between Murphy Gravel and Florida Rock; stated unequivocally that PBLS was putting together a "conglomerate" that would effectively be bigger than the Rock from Florida.
Does anyone else remember that?
Seems to be a lot of new faces this past week. Interesting!
$crooge
WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO A LONG..... TERM COMMITMENT TO THIS COMPANY? SEEMS KIND OF SHALLOW TO THIS OLD BIRD!
QUACK! QUACK!
$crooge
ROACH! ROACH!
You the one;
SUPRQUALAFRAGELISTICEXPOINSECTICMANIACOSHERLOCKIANBUGYOU! Boy it felt good to get that out!
Keep it up buddy, I LOVE WHAT YOU'E DOING! & I'm still buying
DR. P. ON THE ROCKS one day? Maybe with a lime twist.
All the best,
Uncle $crooge
Welcome Oldteck! American Bulls say SELL-IF?
Firstly, it is nice to see you posting here oldteck. I have appreciated your work for some time now and I consider you a premeire member of "The Sherlockian Clan"; a small group of individuals who through their relentless detective endeavors have made the void of past few weeks so much easier to bear. I'm thinking ex FBI or something like that; right! Oh! quack! quack! Sorry, I didn't mean to blow your cover.
I noticed that American Bulls is posting a "SELL-IF" signal for PBLS if anyone is interested; and here I thought the news late in the week might have created some buying pressure. Amazing how this story continues to develop; should be another interesting week in PBLS-land.
Best of luck to all the faithful.
$crooge
ROACH. ACTUALLY I HAD AN EARLIER EMAIL FROM
MIKE MULSHINE @6:53am. 9 hrs after you release it!
YES MY HEARTIES! THE FINANCIALS & THE SHARE STRUCTURE
Make them clear and make them accurate. Then you can take this Company wilst thou wilt.
$crooge
Quiet! Roach is right it was a compliment.
In fact, a compliment of the highest order.
$crooge
ROACH! YOU BEAT THEM TO THE PUNCH!!!!!!!!
The deal may have been closed several days ago and yes it was made official today: I actually had an email alert at 10am this morning from Market Wire that pr'ed the acquisition. However; I had already heard about it late last evening from a more dependable source; Roach-Vision. I TRULY BELIEVE THAT YOU FORCED THEM TO GO PUBLIC SOONER THAN THEY WOULD HAVE PREFERRED.
It's only my opinion; But seriously, WAY TO GO! My Top Hat is off to you and to Oldteck, you guys could publish a book on DD,{I thought I know how to look under rocks, yea right!}in all humility thankyou guys for sharing your hard work with us commoners; you are appreciated, likely more than you'll ever know.
$crooge
We ever meet the old bird is buying!
Sherlock & Watson... The Case of Southern Concrete Crushing!
Great work boys. Watching Oldteck and Roach yesterday was like watching a runaway train. It wasn't going to stop until it reached the end of the track. Looks like it forced the Company into an early press release to me. It will be interesting to learn what the full ramifications of the new addition may be.
That's all good and well but what is really needed right now is for the Company to present us with clearly written financial and share structure documents. Documents that will leave little need for ongoing debate.
This pr's and others that are forthcoming will not be nearly as impactful as the financial and share structure issues remain unresolved. MHO
$crooge
Chilar Re: Motor Mouth
I was curious about what happened as well so I took a look last night. I'm not 100% positive but I don't think he has posted anything for about a week now.
$crooge
COUPLE OF LATE NIGHT THOUGHTS!
Likely all of you young folks are tucked away in bed by now!
What a great day! Hey! I wonder what happened to Motormouth over on RB; checked it out today; you know he hasn't posted for pushing a week now {probably just taking a holiday}; which is fantastic because now it only takes half as long to wade through what they have to say over there. Oldteck is always worth reading as are some of names that are familiar to us here on IHUB.
Any ways on to business. This whole thing about having a "share holders meeting." You can demand one all you want but facts are that PBLS doesn't have to deliver it; besides, with current sentiments what they are, an open meeting of the shareholders in LA might be considered suicide. I can think of a couple of Cowboys {well one anyways} that might already have 12 knots in the rope.
That said what would be a real smart move on PBLS's part would be to organize at their convenience, a shareholders meeting via conference call, staged in LA. I've been involved in several of these in another life and they can be quite effective as 100's to 1000's can participate. The shareholders would be represented at the meeting by a small group of represenatives that we would elect to represent us. Of course PBLS would pick up the tab for their presence all inclusive.
What's good about this kind of venue is that it would present both sides with a unique opportunity to communicate their position. As shareholders we could put most of our important questions to the Company, through our representatives; as well this presents the Company with not only an avenue to address our questions but also to present their vision of the future to us.
Whether or not we like to admit it this particular Company does appear to have some substance to it regardless of their poor performance thus far in communicating with their shareholders; It's likely what attracted many of us in the first place and sometimes it's rather illusive. I have no idea if PBLS would be open to such an undertaking but I do know that if they have good news building behind the scenes {but might not be ready for public release for weeks yet} and if they actually desire the support of their common investors this could be a real smart thing to do to calm the troubled seas. Simply announce that such a meeting will take place 2-3 {or whatever # of weeks from now}.
Well it's getting late kids, way past this old birds bed time. There has been some great posts here today about how blessed we are in this free society we call America; all I could add to the sentiment would be a big Amen! And may we never take for granted the cost to our fathers and forefathers, if you do the Duke will get you.
Good Night All!
$crooge
HAVE A GREAT 704 EVERYBODY!
CRUTIAL..... TAKING THE TIME TO GET IT RIGHT!
Perhaps nothing is more difficult for us "common" investors than going without news; especially at a time when it seems that just a tidbit or two would help to right a floundering ship. No matter how you slice it waiting sucks!
That said I would rather continue this waiting process as hard as it is, than to have new information released prematurely. Information that is poorly articulated or partially inaccurate and would serve to breed more confusion and dissapointment. So let the boys take some extra time { hopefully not too long!} and get it right.
Firstly, they need to present us with a financial report and share structure outline that is well written, concise and serves to clarify all relevant issues and will therebye effectively halt our endless debates on said issues which really have questionable merrit at best. This has to have top priority on "the must do list." They really need to recover some of the trust that has been waning in recent weeks. Any pr released prior to addressing these two issues will loose much of its potential impact as people still wouldn't have the essential facts they need to make intelligent investing decisions.
Once the Company has cleared the air regarding the financial disclosure and share structure issues; then they can let us know what's happening on the acquisition front. More or less bring us up to speed on what they have been up to, how they have been doing it and where they see us going from here.
Laying all of this information out and most importantly presenting it in the right sequence will go a long way in repairing Company credibility and renewing investor confidence.
Surely when a Company sees folks who hold large positions loosing confidence in them, they will feel a sense of urgency to respond. Let's just hope they take the time to do it right, to do justice by their long term investors and to ultimately ensure their own long term success.
I would rather wait a while longer and see it done right than to get it now and regret it. In the end getting it right is more important than getting it soooon! We still have the potential to realize great success with this Company and that's something most of us can still get excited about. So lets get it done Boys but above all make sure it's done right!
My opinion only.
$crooge
Jambamboo.........
I think the condo deal was discussed in some detail last week between yourself, Ren and LowFloatGoat. If memory serves me right I seem to remember that there were some differences in opinion as to who had access to the valid document concerning the condo deal. Or perhaps it was something about the condo deal being a special {one time} situation. Can't remember for sure. I do know one thing for sure; I'm looking forward to the day all of the share structure issues are clarified. Then we can get on with the serious growth which many of us are hoping this Company will experience.
I get pretty excited to; especially when some of the guys start talking about 1.5 or 3.5 or maybe even pushing 10 five years down the road. Certainly would make for a lot of happy campers wouldn't it? GLTAL
Any ways, thanks again for the great detail in your posts and for taking the time to share them.
Regards
$crooge
Never mind Dorothy ...... I heard that Scarecrow's living in Louisiana!
apparently he landed a job writing financial reports for some really promising Company down there.
Gandalf Re: Assets
According to the PBLS posting on pink sheets June 15/07 their total assets {from all sources} at Dec.31, 2006 were $125,428,875.
Regards
$crooge
Whirligig ....
Concensus seems to be that we will get some clarification sometime this month? Would make sense; their opportunity to lock in through series 2 conversion @ .06 is closing quickly. With the series 2 closed there will be one less reason not to encourage a more reasonable sp. Just had a horrible thought! What if as a act of great generosity they decide to extend the series 2 opportunity? Lets hope they're not that generous!
As to the series 3; what do you make of the line that says "redeemable at any time after issuance?" It is one line that seems pretty clear. But:
Redeemable when; could any time = tomorrow?
Redeemable at what; par value = $10.00/share?
Is this really a $100M question?
Lots of questions but I'm gonna ride it out as well. GLTA longs.
Regards
$crooge
Jambamboo ...... Noletim
I love it when you guys talk like that.
$crooge
Banjo!
Sweet Pete's sounds pretty tasty but I think you've got the wrong duck. Sorry.
GLTY
$crooge
Anchorcheck ... Hopefully they'll clear the air soon!
{per pink sheets} Par value $10.00 per shares .......... redeemable at any time after issuance. {scary language}
There are 10,369,275 series 3 shares currently outstanding. The way it reads whoever holds these shares {PA & company?}could redeem them at any time for about $104M. If they redeemed them tomorrow it would take nearly all of the Companys assets to cover.
Back to the Poison Pill theory! On second thought I wouldn't recommend making any firm decision on this until the issue is clarified.
$crooge
LowFloatGoat ......... RIGHT ON!
I got a grate ider. We culd tak up and colecton an bye them a gramar & spel cheker progrem.
Rather grim isn't it!
BANJO ..... RE SERIES 3
I tend to agree with others who believe that it's possible that the series 3 shares are being used for acquisitions, among other things.
Frankly, I was quite dissapointed with the material posted on pink sheets June 15/07. Overall I found it poorly written and vague. When you have an official document in front of you and you're still not really sure what is says about specific issues, then the document becomes somewhat ineffectual. The only way this can be rectified is for the Company to CLARIFY all of the relavant issues mentioned in said document; therebye removing the speculation we have at this time.
That aside, the language used when addressing the series 3 stock may lead you to some conclusions. On page 8 under Authorized: Series III you will read the following; "Series III preferred stock will be available for conversion to those people who have incurred debt in behalf of the issurer, who we owed money or stock by the issuer or have sold, pledged or otherwise deprived of their own personal stock on behalf of the issurer." Even though the language here is inadequate, you can glean some things from the tone of the text.
The people who would be given series 3 stock would seem to be those whom the Company owes a debt. Technically that eliminates the common share holder but could easily include debts the Company owes through either "new acquisitions" or perceived loss of gain {salary or personal investments/resources}incurred by management.
This may change when the language problems are addressed but as it is currently written I feel the series 3 that is currently outstanding went for new acquisitions, for management compensation or a combination of both. Remember, as it stands only 16% of the 62,500,000 authorized series 3 shares are outstanding.
This likely doesn't help much; hopefully for everyone concerned these issues will sooooon be clarified. Getting late; have to run!
$crooge
SHARE PRICE ........ BOTTOMED OUT?
Might be a strange week with the holidays and all. The sp appears that it will hold .01 barring the timely release of some really bad news.
If it is perceived that this is the bottom, we may even see a mini run as people scramble to either get back in or even add to their current position.
The Series 2 share conversion will increasingly become less of an issue as the window on that {opportunity??} is quickly closing; just one reason why we may see a pr early in this week or next week. The only way I see this going sub penny is if the information blackout drags on for another 11 - 12 days.
My opinion only.
PNEW122 ....... NEVER SAW IT!
Sorry! I never saw your temporary page; in fact I've only been following IHUB for a few months now and began posting in early June.
Information PBLS posted to pink sheets on June 15th indicated that approx. 50M shares had been converted up to that time. The way I read it, they still have enough room to basically have all of the common shares converted to Series 2. You really have to wonder how many took the bait over the past two weeks?
When the new acquisitions are made public it will also be interesting to see when the deals were closed and whether or not the timeline in closing those deals in any way justifies the delay in pr's.
Glad to see there are others holding firm on the conversion issue. Have a great weekend.
CHILAR4567
Yes! I can see that clearly now, sitting in it with top hat and spectacles tossing all that green stuff way up in the air and all. What fun!
Only kidding, but I really do hope that happens for a lot of the folks here.
Just for you,
Uncle $crooge
WHIRLIGIG RE SERIES 2 SHARE CONVERSION
My purpose was to simply point out the potential for the Company to greatly benefit from fearful investors who opt to take the Series 2 deal; {largely precipitated by a lack of meaningful or even accurate information coming from said Company} They do kind of have us in a "DEAL OR NO DEAL" position.
I would not presume to recommend to any fellow investor to take the Series 2 deal or to decline and ride this out with their common shares. Those are the hard choices each one will have to make on their own. Like yourself, I personally I will not convert my shares; I may regret that choice but I am willing to play.
I just wanted to remind folks that in our particular situation the Company potentially has a lot to gain through the Series 2 share conversions; if you consider the possibilities within a larger 5 year framework; allowing for the possibility of a significantly higher CSP as the years unfold. In their position, with their knowledge; the potential gain could provide the motivation for a little delay here and another delay there. Nothing necessarily illegal but nonetheless purposeful.
I really hope this works out well for all those who have stayed long and in particular for those who don't take an increasingly tempting offer. You're right, the reward could be handsome. Thank you for your thoughtful reply.
$crooge