We see things from our own point of view...

Gleno said he'll be happy when the elections are over so we didn't have to talk politics every day.

I told him that's what I thought 4 years ago. From the very next day after President Obama won, the republicans were puking and talking about impeachment proceedings.

This crap will never go away.

11-15-18 thanks!

What happens when Romney loses...

and things continue to slowly get better?

That site basically said both sides are just as guilty for increasing the debt.

When we first got married, we needed basic things to get started. Bed, table, chairs, beer, etc.

Boom! Credit card debt. We paid it all off in our first year and never carried a credit card debt again. Ever.

So I say again. When did that $16 trillion debt clock start and why didn't we correct the problem immediately?

I guess if you're the credit card spender AND the dollar printing press operator, then it doesn't really mater. Or does it?

Both sides do it.

I'll say it again...

it's taken me since 1979 to figure out how printing works and some days, the press still wins. Thankfully, not as often.

In regards to our national economic health, I'm clueless.

The economic geniuses at our best universitites haven't figured it out. How do you expect me to?

I will say this.

Our 4 man crews were making $20/hr, 17.50/hour, $15/hr and $10/hr.

The company gave a $0.56/hr raise across the board. When you live through that, you immediately understand the difference between dollars and percents.

You gave the guy running the press a 2.8% raise and the entry level guy a 5.6% raise.

Maybe a smart businessman like you could help me see it from the management point of view.

For all I know, when we hit $72 trillion in debt, is that what it will take to turn our S.S. Titanic around? Right now, the iceberg is dead ahead.

When did the $16 trillion clock start ticking and why wasn't it defused the day it started?

Many thanks...

to the economic geniuses at Harvard, Princeton, Yale, etc. that were supposed to keep us out of the schittstorm we're in.

When the partisan deceptions on each side are disregarded, the plain fact remains that the debt has increased, for many years, under both Democratic and Republican presidents. And it is currently increasing rapidly, reaching historically high levels, while partisans continue to struggle over what to do about it.

http://www.factcheck.org/2012/02/dueling-debt-deceptions/

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http://www.snopes.com/politics/politicians/nationaldebt.asp

we?

http://ycharts.com/indicators/initial_claims_for_unemployment_insurance/chart#series=type:indicator,id:initial_claims_for_unemployment_insurance,calc:&zoom=10&startDate=&endDate=&format=real&recessions=false

u 2 mike

Ok...

you win.

You're right and I'm wrong.

Feel better now?

Nope...

Clinton was speaking the truth.

http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2012-09-06/bill-clinton-asserts-democrats-create-more-jobs-reality-check.html

Here's a 176 million more that did fact-checking from Google:

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=fact+check+clinton+speech&oq=fact+check&gs_l=hp.1.1.0i3l3j0.2360.6282.0.9907.10.6.0.4.4.0.172.827.1j5.6.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.1.Umjkkf8_jLI&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=7c2db6ed7c41015b&biw=1024&bih=600

I'm not going to be the first guy to say a politician is honest, but that speech Clinton gave was very accurate.

LOL...

97% of Americans are making less than the 3% that Romney wants to give a tax break to.

Then ex-President Clinton gives his speech. Like on auto-pilot, the republicans run to the fact-checking sites.

Wow. Nothing but crickets.

His math was exact. Just as his speech was. Not even a crumb for the repubs to say hey about.

Gleno finally pointed out that Clinton was giving bj's in the White House.

Gleno should have run that through the fact-checkers. Big difference between giving and getting, but most republicans don't understand the simple concept of giving.

Um...

the 49ers will knock Aaron Rodgers out for the season, cause he sucks, cause he's a Green Bay Packer and everyone knows, the Green Bay Packers suck.

Just sayin'.

Nothing personal.

Really??

Romney came in second place to a chair at his own convention.

He's dead meat.

Great speeches this week.

23 years ago...

we took our 1 year old son to the YMCA for baby swim lessons.

Mo was on the deck and I was in the pool. The instructor said toss him in. All the babies came back up except one. I looked at the instructor and said I'll go down and get him. Tried it again, same result.

Came back a year later to give it another whirl.

Same result.

The Queen...

Stolen chart...

Hey Gleno...

sorry I had to "use" you for my little board test.

I don't have anyone on ignore. I "use" whatever I can steal.

I put GLENO on ignore...

to take a look at the posts.

I counted all the market related posts since the market opened 2 hours and a half hours ago that may bring light to someone's trading day.

None.

Zip, zilch, nada.

Then I took my great cyber-friend GLENO off ignore.

We're in that highly doubtful 17% range.

It won't let up until...

we're on the other side of the dirt.

Aren't you supposed to be...

on a low blood pressure cruise this week? LOL.

Does that hot seat come in a 2XL?

I got a little wide during the Clinton years and it just won't go away.

LOL.

So 45 minutes later...

Clinton says, since 1961, the Republicans have held the White house for 28 years, the Democrats 24 years.

He then said, 66 million jobs have been created in that time. 24 million by the Republicans, 42 million by the Democrats.

Common sense would tell me...

if the Republican way was the correct way, President Obama should have walked into a well running machine and we all know that wasn't the case.

What is hard to understand...

is the lack of transparency.

Why doesn't he want his returns public knowledge?

Why won't he show his "balanced" budget until after the elections.

also stopped those that I do trade, Didn't think it was accepted. Came accross as chest thumping.

yes

Ok, I will...

Those bush tax cuts won't help, but President Obama's plan will.

Good call!

Hypothetical situation...

you own a business and are paying me X amount of $ to do the work.

I do my job and am paid by you.

I've been a hard working loyal employee for many years. The productivity reports you get confirm my dedication. You give me raises because you feel I'm better under your roof as opposed to your competitors. My high pay makes you consider bringing in a new guy, for less $ to take my place. You hire him and have me train him. It'll take a bit, but soon enough he will be able to take my slot. Good-bye denmo.

The government steps in and cuts you some breaks, so that you can buy more equiptment, hire more people, give out some more raises.

You think things are just fine the way things are and you just pocket the surplus.

This is how I see the Republican party.

Not for a minute do I believe the owner of the business cares about his employees. He cares about himself.

Maybe I'm off, but this is how I see it.

Mike & Mike made their NFL picks for the year today.

The good news, is Greenie said you're going to the Superbowl.

The bad news, is that he is the ultimate contrarian indicator.

The richest woman in the world...

is calling for a wage cut.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19487985

You're absolutely right.

I'll never understand the rich.

Ever.

Wow.

Evidently...

Neither did Mitt.

bs...

he wasn't invited for a reason.

If what Mitt Romney is proposing had worked, George W. Bush would have been the keynote speaker at the Republican Convention.

make the money, deposit it over there...

sounds like Romney.