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Pull down all jp courts
click on Case Records Search
enter case# below
JP03-17-SC00022676
It's not a big scary monster
and this number too
JP03-17-SC00022873
he already did it's not some big scary rumor, just go look.
Go look at it he's quoting whats on the court site, that is not made up, it's exact words on that site.
what it means is how ever you read it but it's copied and pasted on the post he sent me.
I'm still not alarmed about it, someone else may be!
I see what your saying 2 case numbers
JP03-17-SC00022873
JP03-17-SC00022676
It would be interesting to know details but still not on my dime!
CRISAN, IOAN DANIEL
A phone call to that guy might uncover if he was truthful.
I'm not concerned at this point I guess if someone is they can order the docs and post them.
"fixed the lease" 9k could have been paid out to end the lease for what ever reason. That could have been the "fix"
I hear what your saying just won't be me paying the fee!
I see what you're referring to....it's a judgement but it really doesn't prove anything other than that without the docs
I would agree with you it's not worth paying for to look at.
It could have been a landlord tenet dispute lease abandonment to better location yada yada of some type or anything when we assume.
dirt non the less, everyone has some.
I never saw a link must have got past me.
let's stop being mad for a second and rationalize a little.
Let's say the FINRA approval is successful (which by the way is what I'm hoping for) and the stock still doesn't go "to da moon" or what ever posters say in lieu of
when your mad at this event (example above) are you going to blame posters again? OR are you going to say well...once we get the SS and some documented revenue yada yada pending the list of suggestions shown at the bottom of the Attorney opinion we will move up!
I'm not as smart as you but I say that:
"you should consider"
"possibly even"
"but that all depends"
sound like suggestions
Posters are going to talk about stuff good, bad or indifferent, calm down and mitigate your adversary's opinion, you seem intelligent enough to do that. If you pay attention it's what I'm doing.
stay away from balloon rides.... if it ALL moves forward the stock will go up !
it's going to be talked about before, during and after good, bad or indifferent.
second poster to bring this up I would like to see those docs?
I can't find them and neither can the other poster evidently.
I asked him to provide and he never answered.
I don't think they exist or they would have been here already!
I will dig into this, thanks for the heads up!
If the latest efforts go smooth, I would say absolutely yes!
That will be an epic day for sure.
if I'm not suppose to interpret your words in that way click on post new message....it's the one in the middle of the little window thingy.
you are replying to me so how would I interpret otherwise?
So your insinuating that things I'm saying are effecting peoples emotions which in turn is causing this stock to go down?
I would say that companies post things to the OTC so that potential investors can look at them and try to make an informed decision, People will then get on public forums such as this and bounce things off of each other in a constructive manner for the most part.
That is the whole Idea of public forum. I never said Dieterich & Associates was wrong I said no wounder why they had to look at it to make a determination.
If people are confident in the decision they made to invest than it would be more puzzling as to why are THEY here?
If feel you are more competent than a team of legal professionals then please give your input I would like to hear it, seriously!
The post has been deleted that I responded to, the poster had suggested that we had nothing more to talk about, all the DD had been done.
I'm simply saying that we have tons of stuff to talk about as it unfolds that being the things on the list in the attorney letter.
like for example what the SS is once they report that if they report that and so on and yes maybe even the things you suggested if you wish.
It will all be relevant as it hits the wire "good news" I would hope!
Not "whining" about anything, it's all relevant to where this thing goes whether you believe that or not.
This makes my head hurt reading this, it's no wounder they had to go to Dieterich & Associates for a review! and you even left out this Puzzle piece!
https://www.otcmarkets.com/financialReportViewer?symbol=ORRV&id=173953
maybe it's not for this Puzzle?
The "things" suggested here
https://www.otcmarkets.com/financialReportViewer?symbol=ORRV&id=173950
"The DD on this ticker has already been posted by many".
All do respect not trying to bust you down, The DD is in the process of changing and on going so I'm not sure how that statement would apply. They just submitted new docs that are not approved and once they are...a bunch more things have to happen.
It's completely appropriate to talk about these things as it moves along.
I have not uncovered any documentation to support that maybe you can share?
We have documented accounts of shares being used to pay debt
The company has mentioned a remedy, the speculation on the remedy is all over the place... so until we see an announcement the numbers posted on the front door for SS are assumed to be inaccurate.
When the company announces we will know the truth. According to the latest company statements here and on twitter, they are diligently working towards answering a lot of these type of questions and resolving some correction issues that have caused delays.
https://www.otcmarkets.com/financialReportViewer?symbol=ORRV&id=172533
https://www.otcmarkets.com/financialReportViewer?symbol=ORRV&id=172533
Would be nice, I see they have the $8 ask back up....Sweet!
I believe this has some to do with it, I'll set this under the rocks.
https://www.otcmarkets.com/financialReportViewer?symbol=ORRV&id=169364
We have a lot of speculation and disagreement on what this amounts to
I don't have a clue but you will get a lot of opinions of how many shares came into market to resolve Debt.
We really won't know until they announce it officially!
Exactly Some on here just can't seem to grasp the concept that it isn't going to run on a 2 bit smoke and mirror "it's just a game of creating confusion" "Smooth as silk" "hiring an attorney" for a 50 million dollar merger is OVERKILL" "SOS wants to reject filed forms from the attorney" fake pump show.
The company created the confusion, The potential investors are concerned about the answers!
We need resolution and credible answers to valid questions concerning some pretty big issues.
It seems of late we are on that track and it's very easy to stick to that without the side show act.
This is my Opinion as well, After 1 and 2 we will either have the mystery solved OR a ton more questions!
1. I hope we have a resolution!
2. I hope it's not delayed!
3. After 1 and 2 are complete...your # 3 would unravel the rest of the story....What this thing is worth!
This is a productive post thanks BNP
Even though you may not be popular on the "like" side you do great service with what you dig up and how fast you do it!
Your answer was perfect here!
It's up to the reader to decipher what you find and you have a lot of readers.
Thanks for a little backup it's getting exhausting to say the least!
I think I'm ready to leave it right were it's at! You pretty much summed it up in your other post.
Good luck to you.
Are you reading anything that I post? How can you establish from it that I want this to go back to .0009
Nothing I say or do is going to control that anyway!
"new money doesnt matter unless you flip"
"Johnny new guy investor" would be anybody that shows up to take a dip in the pool, NOT someone that has never invested before! Yes we do need "new money" for this to rise! Are you just going to keep buying it all the way up to the ridiculous proposed PPS on here of what ever the latest projection is? Because if that's the case I'll sell you mine for $2 a share and move on!
Look If you can't see that I'm making an effort to help this thing climb by offering up realistic goals and corrections to things being thrown around on here than I don't know what else to tell you.
Instrumentally a spot light has been turned on by the Friday morning volume action. as Johnny new guy shows up, he wants information! Not a bunch of cheer leader BS to make it look like a cover up
for whats going on. Frank has told us here that he is working on these things and has offered up some source to back it up, lets calmly focus on that! Not try and turn it into a smoke and mirrors show!
When people show up at the front door which is consequently ihub right now because when you put ORRV into a search it's near the top, you can't say hay come on in, don't mind the guy getting beat with a stick over there in the corner and if you want a balloon ride come with me it's right out front. What......? clerical errors........! Never mind that get in it's much better up here!
" smart money does matter. ".
Exactly right.... it matters that's why these issues are better sorted out and talked about with some intelligent rational DD so that as smart money comes to the front door they have something valid to consider. Smart Money is going to inquire about things like what is OORV and Oceanic research and recovery Group? Why did they submit a change for the letter S. You can't find a plain and simple answer in short order you have to dig which leads to more questions.
So lets try and resolve mystery instead of balloon rides at the front door, goes a long way with the people who are just showing up for the party.
If you're going to quote my post let me add a little more input!
At the cost of my wife's job she was instructed under any terms you are not to give advise, legal advise or instructions to anyone on how to proceed. When I made reference to "heads up" it would be a simple hay you might want to look this over again....nothing more!
They would never help someone fill out anything where she worked and I'm certain it's the case anywhere else! now if we are talking building permit or car title transfer sure!
The employees at government offices you so fondly refer to are clerks and for the most part have no degree or education or authority to give advise so I would say you're way off on a lot of that thought process!
Why would a clerk put his or her neck on the line in a legal situation that has nothing to do with the clerk!
The company itself has made reference to the "the experts" and "Legal team" so why do you keep spouting about what you've seen 1000s of times? Stick to the facts if were on the "same team" as you wrote earlier!
I'm not saying that a form can't be filled out by other than an Attorney, I have filled out forms for my company, but a reverse Merger is way more complicated than a simple corporate document so....what ever you think I guess!
Agree he's all over it minus factors, great piece Edven!
I like your style Frank If people would just read a few things it would be much easier!
https://www.otcmarkets.com/financialReportViewer?symbol=ORRV&id=173950
For inquiring minds he's working on these parts.
After that name
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changing exercise, you should consider updating all of the filings with OTC
Markets, profitable acquisitions and possibly even registration to become a fully
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reporting
company, but that all depends upon the market and i
ts acceptance of your activities.
Edventure008 is a pretty good assessment with no factors, hang on because your about to get a balloon ride over fantasy land any time now!
I don't have pm but I agree
Oh no it's very easy to understand! all you have to do is read it 57 times and it all makes perfect sense and if you don't understand then you shouldn't invest?!? What the heck is he talking about and how does THAT make sense?
If Johnny new guy investor clicks on this ticker right now, clicks on the stuff that I've posted at the top to try and help them understand and reads those documents, He's going to say what the heck is all that about and most likely move on.
It has nothing to do with rejected NVSOS documents, it's very complicated to understand the OORV ORRV Oceanic research and recovery "Group" inc, Oceanic research and recovery inc, holding, holdings so on and so forth!
I don't know Frank at all But would venture to say from his prospective this is not "smooth as silk"! Simply Because he's working his but off to try and smooth out all the bumps in the road! After all it's why he's here!
and this one is SMOOTH AS SILK
Your kidding right?
This is far from smooth as silk, how on earth can you even make that statement?
and shouldnt be putting money into something that they dont understand
and when they do their own DD, they will see things on their own
Exactly the point it's so hard to follow "average people" won't put money here because they can"t understand!
People get on here and ask questions all the time because they can't figure out what the heck all the different names and symbols are about.
understand all the moving pieces here
It's not that easy for the average person to figure out!
That's the whole problem with it it's like the ultimate "SHELL" game.
If you can't understand even a little business law it's very difficult to decipher!
.001s held strong with .0009s on the bid Stronger hands coming in ?