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My guess is they are getting some of the short term financing/ CD deals with PVSP.
Obviously sir, you have never been involved with a real Board of Directors. If you had, you would realize that they will rip a Cos financial condition, operations and marketing to pieces and then cut the executives heads off for non performance. Inadequate funding???, how many more billions of shares will be "adequate"?????
No, there are many more conversions to come. FF has 2m dollars to convert and I am sure, as all should be, that there are many other short term conversions made each month re other monthly loans that remain anonymous as always. Unfortunately, the market deems this a RS play since the last AS increase along with Riss's history of BKs and RSs. If you DD Richards great history you will only see failed telco companies, although his bio states that he brought Cos to profitability, (right before they failed). Also, many of the Cos in his Bio are the same Cos that changed names (aka ). His "consultancy" experience to large banks can not be substantiated nor will it ever be. It's all a self written bio with no justification and certainly no substantiation( meaning you won't get it from him).
Well, according to Riss/Richards/BJones they ever had a product until the last plan. IMHO , that is Mgt speaking tithe board, it is way too obvious. Only a desperate person does you tubes like Riss and only arrogant narcissi like Richards would attack shareholders.
I'm not a detective, don't want to be. There is too much smoke combined with years of dilution and changes in business plans, very common scenario. Not rocket science detective scenario stuff here, especially when the dilutive execs are benefiting and not willing to sacrifice like normal business owners.
I agree, however, if you study the chart you will see a decrease in the buy volume at this level compared to the past (Not a good sign). BJones and his arrogance is a definite negative to this board.
His posts are a bit obtrusive and offensively derogatory to any form of positive criticism. A common shareholder would not react in such an arrogant and narcissistic manner towards very important fundamental questions and remarks from shareholders. Apparently, Mgt has a very disconcerting view towards new shareholder opinions, including dressing up and marketing six year olds as Santa.
Of course it pays for itself with subscription business. PVSP loses the 1st month revenues under that scenario. Almost every industry in the world gives up more than the Ist month to salespersons and advertising. Your experience is very limited to say the least.
This should be very distressing to shareholders who were told the same thing for many years. This was obviously a kick the can down the road strategy for many years. As I stated, your share selling days are over.
"We have the technology, we just need the Marketing push to tell the world, and that is what Panomark is going to do.
You can't sell it before you have the product. We have the product now we will SELL it."
Again, dodge the ball. If the last plan is the only good plan that works then you are saying everything else before this was BS. Exactly where do you draw the line with failures????? I was trying to add a positive perspective and once again you became defensive as if it were a personal attack which makes your MO way too obvious, either way, this plan is your last attempt and I do hope it works for shareholders. Your share selling days are obviously over.
Hopefully, Pano realizes that PVSP should cycle out of the free 60 minutes and do 20 free mins usable in ONE week.
Not really, I have some specific concerns re mgt. SEC does not halt trading due to losses or debt. All I want is some transparency, and more particularly, what deb is being convertedt and who the shares are going to.
Mr Orange, dodge the ball must be your favorite sport. Your point is spot on relative to the mixed representations that PVSP makes regarding options and rate plans. The fact is that I have a PAID plan with Vox and was not looking for any free service. I believe you need to look back at some PRs and marketing data re the apple app. Apple users expected what they read, Vox did not perform.
Sir, you seem to talk and never provide a fact based response to anyone. One who does not question the lack of sales, the fact that Riss and Richards' salaries and expenses amount to half of the revenues and the fact that they have pillaged through the dilution money are viewing this corporate calamity with rose colored glasses. To blindly praise mismanagement and years of failure is beyond my comprehension.
I am very disappointed that the iPhone app does not include texting.
Yes, But apparently not enough background history. Why haven't you moved on or Trump. You guys, one post positive and one post negative. I'm just interested in facts and Unfortunately one fact leads to more questions. I never used the word scam, that is entirely different than questioning the motives and relationships of officers. Or their salaries. I like the tech, the sector and the way the stock runs.
PVSP chill is due to the unregistered shares being sold. The Co is taking advantage of an exemption rule. That's why we will never know how many shares were sold until a 10/K or Q. Just another non transparent Riss type agenda. Obviously, Integrity is certainly not a concern for Riss/Richards; pay checks and expenses are their primary concern. Integrity is also last on the list for the insider pumper here, however, his disdain for well deserved criticism leads to an obvious conclusion.
Let me restate that, his sales skills disappeared with a never ending weekly pay check. No need to sell which is obviously the case here or there was nothing to sell until recently. Either way, he was part of the facade with Riss.
Don't know about that , but I was the leading mind behind Facebook. That was easy to write wasn't it ( a joke). Fact, apparently he was just a Brit salesman with no formal academic or tech education. Apparently, his sales skills vanished as his tech skills grew.
Yep,sales people can learn the jargon but not the technical aspects. They pay the real tech consultant as much as Richards, what does that tell you.
According to the Bios, Richards has no formal trading in any field. Just a salesman with an idea. I have a 2007 prospectus stating salaries for the tech guys around 5k per month, Execs are 28k per month.
Like I don't know that. I tried to get my own inside info from the ex but he quickly realized where I was coming from. His response was, are you f....NG nuts. They are all involved together from one pink to the next. I really didn't think this reporting Co would be involved but, what better cover is there. Dilute and pay for tha auditors.
Well well, Mr Apples on a role. Mr Orange, never follow the money; always follow the players. Now, if Icahn and others are in then follow the money; in pinks, always follow the players because it is a vicious group that invariably hang together. I do appreciate your apparent inside info and, as I have said before, once an arrogant narcissist has been challenged they will always respond even to their own detriment. Mr Apples and Mr Orange are both challenged now with new info. Mr Apples, apparently you have been taught some lessons of late and there is no future in your mixing apples and oranges re CDs or financials as you have been looking at the farm when you should have been looking in the henhouse. . For both, you can trust that my friends on the accounting and investigative side are no where near done with this and to my amazement have actually become intrigued with both officers of the Company and their respective inter relationships with each other and investors.
I don't think Fanning has any interest other than a quick 50k+ whenever the opportunity arises. I do not know who karsmith is other than seeing older posts. As for BJones, he has obviously tried to take what I see as a potential conflict and morphed it into a futuristic deal that involves Fanning.
Every now and then,he certainly gets very defensive as if someone struck a nerve, then he comes out with something that only an insider would know. A good example was today's post re Riss on a members only NetCapital site. I guess that post cinched it for me re him being an insider. I have been directed by someone here to a different PVSP site to ask some questions but have not received a reply as yet from other past or present shareholders. Have a good weekend.
I must agree, seems Riss and Fanning used the two NetCapital deals as a bait and switch to inflate the pps long enough to dump CDs. IMO, the integrity of mgf. Is the issue here, and whether or not these deals will hold up with scrutiny. I like the tech and I like the swings in the PVSP stock. Talking about and attempting to find answers relative to some stock transactions and expenses will certainly not effect the pps in any way. If Fanning was interested in anything other than a fast buck, he certainly had many opportunities to make a difference. Hopefully , FF does make the difference as my new friend, Mr Apples, has recently stated.
Last time I saw him he was Santa, trying to sell Vox to a six year old.
Amended Note 3 converts into ten percent (10%) of the outstanding shares of Common Stock of the Company upon the full payment of Amended Note 2, subject to a maximum of 100,000,000 shares. Any principal or interest amount can be paid in cash.
Wrong, the Amended 3 note allows them to have 10%.
FF is not the only recipient of CD shares. If Mgt. Is allowing anyone to side step the terms of a loan then they are at fault, Riss has a fiduciary responsibility to PVSP shareholders and having super voting shares does not alleviate that responsibility.
Actually, from what I have read I believe FFs role is more of an equity partner compared to the other CD holders and relative to the Laurus debt. My problem with Riss is the two NetCapital deals which seem to be a fast bait and switch scenario and it was certainly orchestrated by Riss and Fanning. My question is who is benefitting from all of the smaller conversions??? I am by no means a conspiracy theorist, however, there are too many non disclosed recipients of large blocks of PVSP stock.
How can anyone blame the lender. Riss has been kicking the can down the road for 15 years. Richards joined in the kicking 9 years ago. Two persons are receiving approximately one half of all revenues annually. This fact has nothing to do with FF or any other lender.
Agreed , just not that easy defining the facts due to the lack of transparency re CD recipients as well as the two bait and switch NetCapital deals. Have a good day.
I know all I say is wrong Mr Apples, but just how did I know that you were Canadian??????? How's the weather in Montreal?? I did some business there and in LaSalle. Actually became very close friends with Michel Leduc who was the mayor in the late 80s.
LNAO, open this thread from scam.com in 09. Mr Apples is pumping Zero1 and guess where he lives!!! From the mouth of Mr Apples.
http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?s=a30ed0dc575a5d458241ed49d3e49718&p=808587#post808587
When it came out but they took some time to fix the payment problem.
The cross platform did work when I first downloaded the apple app and used it. I do not have texting with the pay and go plan.
I am not concerned with Fanning or other cos. I am concerned that Fanning is a financier of PVSP, has been involved in the bait and switch loans/CDs, received preferential treatment with the CDs and shares an office with PVSP. If there are no improprieties then all is good, however, if in fact Riss is double dipping then we have a problem.
It seems Fanning and Riis go back to at least 09 with the zero1 deal of which both were involved. I also believe the zero1 deal is where Mr Apples lost his money.
http://blog.laptopmag.com/zer01-mobile-ceo-addresses-scam-and-vaporware-allegations
Fanning's PVSP security agreement was also preferential each time allowing him to sell 30% of volume or $15k dollars of stock or whichever is HIGHER each day.
Too funny, did Fanning really say all of that while he was dumping his CDs.; I wonder why????? Your post totally skirted my post relative to potential insider trading and preferential financial deals. Keep skirting the obvious and I will connect the links. Trying to make Fanning or NetCapital out to be a good guy here is a pitiful and ridiculous ploy.