Tomorrow looks fun....

It's times like this where owning a .004 cent a share shell stock can be a good thing. :p

Hi welcome, I think aztc will be ok....

There are a lot of differences, that other stock had too many people talking about it for one thing. I only took a very small position as an afterthought, but still I hope to dump that other one asap after January 1st. I don't even like the karma associated with that thing in all honesty. lol

As for aztc, it has a nice low profile and is under the radar which can't hurt. (hopefully lol) In the long run, .004 or .007 won't make much of a difference if your buying for a successful reverse merger, successful is the important variable though. lol

Good luck, welcome aboard and hopefully today was a blip in what will be a good new year!

Oh lord....

I hope today's action isn't the beginning of.... I won't even mention that other stock at this point, I jus hope poor aztc isn't going to suffer the same fate. :(

I want to stay positive for the the new year, I sure wish it had gone up on the 3 mil shares traded though. lol

I really hope it's only last day tax selling or something.

Oh well, maybe next week will be better and the late November jump to .19 won't be another false blip, heh.

Bah, can't now. : /

Anyone who beats up Chuck Norris has to be perfect!

damn :/

I claim post 3777

woooooooooo lol

lol, we better be careful not to get this forum on the Buzz Cloud thing tonight, that hasn't worked out too well for other stocks lately. LOL

Actually the TDWV I bought was only so I didn't have all my eggs in one basket.

LOL, anyway we've all had disasters, mine was POCI, I sold 2000 shares of Apple at 3, before it split and went to 160, then I sold 9000 shares of ARIA at 2.50 and it went to almost 20 two months later....

Then I took everything and invested in POCI, initially went from 2 to 6, but then it crashed to .50 cents on a share offering and I lost almost everything

Then what I had left after the POCI disaster went into IPYS which had its registration revoked. ROFL, we've all had disasters and I am not incredibly wealthy right now simply for a matter of timing. Stay positive, the next one could be your time to win! Mine to if it's AZTC LOL

Share structure on this is definitely good with less risk of severe dilution....

Forum is definitely low key and we don't bother Meuse, so he hopefully doesn't dislike us LOL

& some of his other mergers have been good......so....

I will stay positive and hope for the best.

I simply hope for a real company for AZTC at this point LOL

No reverse split or severe dilution post merger would be great too.

Yhea I guess for all the flack the new TDWV owner is getting, whether deserved or not, it's still better to have a 5 for 1 forward split then a reverse split anyway. lol

Yup exactly. When you buy a shell it's like .....

buying a perpetual lottery ticket that you only have to pay for once. You should expect nothing and gripe about nothing and have no contact with the shell mover.

My hope for AZTC is 2 dollar range, with a best case miracle of 4 to 6 dollars.

JPCI $6 with that float is very possible, with a best case hope of $14 or more.

TDWV now.... best case .26 cents is the target but hea it would still be a nice profit if it ever happened lol Worst case would be tax write off.

I don't have any kids to worry about currently, so a new Dodge Challenger would be my first priority. LOL I'll leave pleanty of cash on the side if I do have those responsibilities a couple of years down the road though LOL.

Well, stocks are always a gamble, especially pink sheets.... I think......

I think most of the successful shells are ones that have a low profile, as I've said from the beginning. Meuse is looking to move shells first and foremost, seeing TDWV and FBBU, being low key, nice and quiet seems to be the best thing possible for a shell. I really can't comment on TDWV but apparently my position is going to be pretty substantial after the 5 for 1 split. LOL At worst it will be a good tax write off if by some miracle something good happens with JPCI or AZTC, and at best this guy who now controls it now might get it to 20 cents someday who knows, though I'm not holding my breath on that.

That said, I do hope Meuse likes the AZTC shareholders and appreciates our laid back attitude where we expect and gripe about nothing. :p lol

I would much rather see us be one of those 2 to 4 dollar mergers, or ones that at least go north with as small a post merger float as possible after they are acquired.

that would be fine too lol

Mathematically your probably right lol

I still would be happy even if this went to .26 cents now. This was a very small investment for me anyway, so .26 on any news of an acquisition would make for a nice profit. I could then buy some more shells and have much larger positions as well. :p

Even with dilution, thanks to the 5 for 1 split it's all relative....

Where before I was hoping for 2 to 4 dollars, now I only need to hope for .20 to .40 cents to make the same profit. lol

Breaker breaker 1 - 9 anybody out there come on? LOL


This forum is surprisingly quiet considering the jump to .19 in the last week or so on relatively light volume. This shell (even though they do have some business operations) is fully reporting, has no debt, and an incredibly low float. Looks like if they ever do merge with a quality firm it could be pretty incredible. I wonder if the recent price blip is a sign of something on the horizon, maybe a Christmas miracle merger or something? I can only hope lol.

Yhea your probably right. I think even with the forward split that still leaves room for another 100 million to be added to float as well.

TDWV was an afterthought shell for me anyway, the free shares and watching all of this is still pretty entertaining though. Wonder what this will be eventually.

Regarding dilution.... wondering......

IF the o/s for TDWV are around 80 million, and maximum authorized shares are 500 million, wouldn't the 5 for 1 forward split bring them close to the authorized limit? Shouldn't be much room for dilution in that scenario?

Is it possible they've already done the forward split and the official pr's and filings will be released later this week?

The value of my position now is about the same as it was a week ago if you add in the 5 for 1 forward split. The split already happening would explain price and volume though this is only my opinion and I am often wrong lol. As a very small shareholder here, free shares are always great, even if they are worthless, still feels sort of like a moral victory. LOL

For those interested, besides AZTC....

Besides AZTC which is my main shell, and the small position in tdwv, I do have one other shell. JPCI.ob, Last week it went from .02 to .19 cents on no news and I was having visions of SPEA part 2 lol.

JPCI is a clean shell that has some sort of small business operation right now I think, it is fully reporting, no debt, and extremely low float. If there ever is going to be another one for the ages it sure looks like it has all the ingredients. My JPCI position is actually the smallest of any shell, but the float is so low it has the potential to be the biggest winner if it ever reverse mergers.

Unfortunately it tanked back to .05 today and the ask has dropped from .14 to .08 and I am really bummed about it. I thought I was going to have a much needed miracle merger before Christmas lol :(

I sure hope not. I want this to stay nice & quiet, remain under the radar and not have any of the nonsense associated with the TDWV shell. All the people posting on that board and badgering Belmont maybe had something to do with Beverage Creations going with the other shell. To many day traders and bs-ers in that thing right now I think.

I think what may be happening is Meuse has turned the shell over to a new group, and people are jumping ship not inspired by the recent PR. I don't know if I am right at all or if Meuse still actually owns it, simply a hunch on my part. As for all the new people posting at tdwv, they sound like day traders and shorts to me. Never know though, maybe the new firm that is coming into TDWV in some form will manage to pull something out of their hat and leave the people selling right now with egg on their faces.

As for AZTC, I hope whatever happens happens fast, is a solid merger right from the initial PR, and nobody sees it coming until the price is already way up.

Of course that's what everyone wants for their shells lol, but I remain hopeful.

For the question about shell price, I only think about potential when buying shells, I don't care about current value or balance sheet. If you are with a good shell firm the shell is probably in good shape in terms of debt.

Nevermind

Businessweek's info must be screwed up.

Long term is....

However long it takes for a shell to complete a full transformation / merger, and for all the details of the merger to play out. This takes patience, optimism, low expectations, refusal to try to analyze the bids & asks or the shell charts, and especially the ability to not base your strategy on message board chatter! lol

No idea, but learned of Meuse's shells based on Belmont's reputation which is pretty good.

LOL E-Scrooge GOOD NAME!!!! lol ....

I should say many of his shells, four of which are listed on this page actually. My target price long term with shells is usually around $1.00 which is pretty realistic, my long shot but still possible hope with them is usually 4 to 6 dollar range. Sometimes I do dream though and multiply my shares times 30 to 40 dollars a share LOL. Stranger things do happen though so you never know with any shell.

Most of Meuse's shells end up in the 1 to 4 dollar range when everything plays out, though there have been some in the 10 dollar range I think. For this one, $4 would be possible in a best scenario, but even with my small position 3 or 4 would be great! Patience and not expecting too much is the key. Buy, hold and forget about it until surprise PR's like yesterday's are released in the future.

Good luck.

Couple of things:

1: It say's in the PR new ownership, sounds like a reverse merger into a firm that intends to bring another company public through acquisition in the not to distant future. Now I am not saying this is going to be another $32 Sports Entertainment, I am thinking 1 to 4 or 5 in a perfect situation for a stock like this long term.... but double reverse mergers / reverse merger & acquisition are not uncommon as Spea reversed merged into a firm, that then acquired the Elvis estates, so this type of merger does happen.

2: Meuse is in the shell moving business, and I think he makes his money moving them and gives up control and most of his shares after the merger. I could be wrong but I think he only has the shares to control the shell while seeking a merger candidate.

3: Belmont is a Billion Dollar firm, they deal with numerous companies and have control of many shells. There could be 1000 reasons why one shell eventually ends up with one firm over another.

4: Shells are what they are, shells of a no longer existing corporation. They are not animals or people and cannot get sick. LOL

5: The most important think with shell investing, unless your a day trading momentum player, is PATIENCE. Also always be positive but expect little, that way you'll never be disappointed! Good luck to this forum!

After one day on the TDWV board....

I'm reminded why I like AZTC so much! lol That place is pretty hopeless, especially in the patience department. I did take a small position in the stock itself in the event the firm in their merger turns out to be something good.

Absolutely! Best investment strategy and most fun thing there is.

I do like going with people like Meuse who create, build, and bring real companies public & shells back to life.

The only thing I have to say about GGGI is....

That the guy who runs Beverage Creations, if I am not mistaken, is the former VP of Coca Cola.... that sounds pretty good to me. I am fully invested right now but would buy some if one of my other shells goes first.

I wouldn't worry at all about things like l2, shells are a buy and hold, often for a long time type proposition, if you ever really want to win big with them.

Meuse seems to be the best of the best too, I'm thankful to have learned about his shells.

Yup you too, there are ....

certainly plenty of shells to invest in. I have my main one, and I took a small position in this mainly for the catchy name and the site released with today's PR, which gave me the impression this "mystery firm" has its stuff together. I could be wrong and they could have no value & dilute the shell, or maybe they are now the owners because they offered Belmont a better deal then Beverage Creations? That's the beauty of investing, you never know.... I do think from Meuse's reputation maybe everyone will win. Good luck!

The news wasn't blockbuster, but it was important....

All it said was the merger happened, but didn't give any information other then the shell was acquired by an "undisclosed private firm". These things are usually a process and require patience. I am not at all concerned about price movements, the only price that matters is the one after all the details of the merger come forward. If I thought there was something wrong with the shell I wouldn't have taken a small position. As for Beverage creations, Meuse has a Billion dollar firm and deals with dozens of companies and numerous shells, there can be 1000 explanations of why one firm or another ended up with one shell or another. That GGGI beverage creations merger hasn't done anything yet either, and it won't until more details emerge. Again it's a process and patience is everything with these things. And no I don't worry about dillution at all when investing in low float shell stocks, & getting an actual merger is 1/2 the battle in these things! lol

marcg

I can't reply to private messages as I'm not premium member LOL check my posts for my main shell.

I don't think a private firm would go through the trouble of reverse merging into a public shell if they truly have no value, prospects, or plan ready to go. I also doubt Belmont Capital would sell to a firm with no value or plan already in motion either.

Don't put to much into a the initial PR, they always air on the side of caution and are as negative as possible. Looking at the site they've put up I would say they probably have their stuff together but only time will tell. I bought a small position today to compliment my main shell.

Yup very good, some people....

wait years for a merger and the shell goes under instead, my screen name is an example of that! LOL With this one, you have the merger, now it's simply a matter of patience and finding out what it is you now own shares of. Whatever it is, it's better today then what it was yesterday! Good luck all and be PATIENT!

You guys worry to much

One of the biggest steps with a shell is getting a merger, now you have it. Price fluctuation right now means nothing, the important thing is you have the merger and so now the shell is like a Christmas present, where you only have to wait to see what it is.

I wouldn't read to much into the PR either, the firm might already have financing arranged who knows, they always seem to air on the side of caution and are as negative as possible with these things.

Firms usually don't go though the trouble of merging into a shell and putting out a PR unless they have definite plans underway. Most of Meuse's shells are successful, you simply need patience. Their new website is also pretty snazzy which would indicate the people taking over have their stuff together. I have taken a small position here to compliment my primary Meuse shell as I think today was very positive!

Looks like the TDWV'ers finally got their merger!

I was starting to feel sorry for them. lol One less shell to compete with so maybe we'll be next! :p