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MBMoney, I see your other post, I recall talking to the SEC about a year and a half ago and at that time it was about HDC not filing in general. Now I’m talking on the phone with this dude, and as you might know, he is, and many as such are Attorney's. He explained to me that me, just telling him of any problem I see involving any corporation that is under the SEC reach take I must file a complaint or nothing in my concern matters to them. They must have a paper trail. So what I am saying is you must fill out a complaint at the SEC website and then they will follow up on the complaint but will also connect with you first.
What you are saying is spot on and I recall all that. The timing was so full of chit when they did that deal. (as soon as I seen you post with that "April 22" date sparks were flying out of my ears.)
Hey I'm ready to fly anywhere lets wake up George and see if he will talk to us....or maybe Fly to Canada, I haven't been their in a while, maybe Lonni or whatever his name is will talk with us.
I gather the only real option is to send out emails to everyone within the Exhibit B list and try to get a few of the old directors motivated enough to shake the tree. Maybe Braswell or Tobin might file a suit against HDC but do not want to see Barnhill anywhere near HDC again.
No doubt HDC has a way to make an investor bark at the moon even if you can't see it...I mean our history and all the patents we once had. Someone had to make money some how would you not agree.
Were the patents actually used by someone else and HDC was just a decoy???...illusion
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Long ago past........another thingy that was never really followed up on was (Richard E Caruso) but what the heck.
It was agreed much earlier that the company can determine a new series preferred shares without a shareholders vote. At the time I believe there were no "C" series involved so 21 million "D" series didn't bust the party but yes it would on any voting issues. Since the last structure change there are no throttling governors on George-HDC.
Now I can find all the supporting information but this crap just isn't worth it to me.
(and yes I did post at one time that George could NOT change/make a new series without shareholder approval (aside from his heavy holdings now) I was wrong as you can see the language change in a prior shareholders meeting between 2015-2017....actually it will be filed in MAY or June of those years. Might even scan Google for quicker hit.
450 MC / 45 MP "C"
A/S both
Another thing! Who can prove "intent verse a mistake", furthermore how about an intentional mistake?
The waters get thicker and thicker!
From what I have seen the timing doesn't seem to matter as long as they correct their documents, specially corporation updates. As for the SEC do they really care? As long as those documents get straighten than same seems to be the case with them.
Look at it this way....unless some heavy hitters were to file a complaint not (Vennwest) why would anything change. I figure like Quirk, if Vennwest got what they wanted that's great for them but we would still be sitting in a tree waiting on a ladder (if you know what I mean).
I look at this way is HDC doing us right by not filing an 8K referencing Vennwest? Of course not but I see George CEO of HDC as not being true to us investors yet you know Quirk as do the many other shareholders that may read this.
Also, you know like me of some of the professional hitters involved in this and others who have high shares in this and if they don't give a damn or can't file with the state of Georgia or perhaps raise hell within the SEC what in the world can we do.
I sincerely mean this that I wish HDC and the entire share structure and all shares disintegrate into thin air. HDC has been nothing but a thorn in our butt forever but if we lose I want to see the CEO lose too!!!
Something many past investors have forgotten and it has been mentioned by MBMoney too, HDC entire focus in the early days was all about developing "Biomarkers" but gather like everything else that morphs into something else and basically falls to the wayside except one past director, no not Moore.
I just don't believe the Judge will allow the depth of discovery depth that HDC needs. I think HDC would settle for $600k including legal fees. Even would that kind of money there isn't anything in the past or present to hold the share price up. HDC needs to somehow pull royalties and have Intel develop product and downstream sales plus marketing. HDC could never handle that.
I gather if George is tired of messing with this he will try to dump the company into Intel's lap if at all possible. The other needling is the exiting lawsuits. It appears none of the Directors involved in HDC history will ever see eye to eye which breeds another problem so how does George hold onto to all his shares and leave?
Jury award is where I believe the $600-$650 will come from but what will HDC actually pocket?
What is in the mind of our CEO is very important? How is his health and how much is this playing on his mind and his families however, how much of the load is Marty doing? If Marty is carrying the ball for George then HDC may not throw in the towel on first offer from Intel.
It has been expressed privately between many of us shareholders that we see nothing else developing as to licensing other entities so that brings me back to my original thought which is (Intel) is our last stand before George winds this up.
King, I forgot to post the most important thingy that I can....
Give HDC $300K - $600K then what? As you see we "more" than basically will be too close to the end of patent life cycle so any products probably would never happen.
Now what would be cool is to have Intel collaborate with us and develop some type of product(s)
My problem is the years I have been here plus I just don't believe there is enough technical know how for HDC to actually co-develop.
Now George did see us through the NeoGenomic fiasco and is he actually done with NeoGenomic Corporation. In the same breath he had also been hard at work trying to get Intel off their buns. No doubt George and crew have done a great job or documentations and working with our Patent Attorneys and no doubt some type of involvement with our inventors.
Now it would be nice to see .50 per share offered and maybe "Good_Sport" will walk away with $500k which may make his day.
Alan? that seems to be a strange post for you? Provided that Intel and HDC are in discussions how do you tabulate the $400k figure...is it normal for Intel from a figure such as $250k to $400K or are you messing around with Good_Sport?
Look, we need $650k from Intel or else Jury trial and bigger award even though all our patents are about exhausted like me.
King Oil, it doesn't matter to me who buys or sells I just would like to break even and left Dodge City. I hope the best to any buyers or sellers I'm pretty much toasted after all these years.
I feel pretty much the same except the time I have in this hurts me deeply.
Yes, Moore is in the same boat yet he feels he is a stand up guy and has done everything to us I mean for us like Quirk has!
At any rate Moore wants George to take back what he said about him not doing his job and providing HDC with updates
BTW...we all know the real answers to all this don't we but let's play the HDC game of chance.
Questions for $100 dollars Oops I mean .50 cents
Who has done more to shareholders I mean for shareholders.
1.George
2.Moore
3.Quirk
4.None of the above.
MBMoney, you would think that some of the old directors as far back as Bob Braswell on through to several years ago would try to enact something in a positive way but also feel they might view their past holdings in HDC as a lost cause anyways. Most of these old directors and so forth are very successful such as Bob since he distant himself from Williams and doing his own business.
Maybe look at this way, I recall talking with Braswell many many years ago when he was setting up Direct Wireless in Waco, Texas! Hey we basically started in Waco and maybe HDC may end it's life in Waco, Texas messing with Intel.
Who will get the leftover scraps? We all know don't we? Everyone except retail shareholders.
MBMoney, there are enough past legal professionalism that has left the company from the get go to straighten out this entire mess but my guess seems to lean towards our patents being too close to end of life.
We have talked about HDC collaboration, I sincerely believe we do not have collaboration ability to follow through or worth a corporation being attracted enough to deal with HDC. Our Directors DO NOT appear to be seasoned enough within the technologies to carry the responsibilities as needed nor the consistency to hold any corporations interest let alone work elbow and elbow with anyone.
You figure what were the short comings of our license dealings with NeoGenomics Corporation? It wasn't all their (NEO) fault now was it. So we now hear from Quirk yet he didn't want to even approach NeoGenomic Corporation nor did Kevin Kowbel wish to...so innocent Vennwest, sure we believe that one just like we believe Quirk.
So we have what left? We have George who isn't about to trust anyone so the bottom line is how far can he carry the company before he pulls his shares and money in spite of everyone. This must be frying the heck out of Quirk.
Not 1 director or anyone involved in any shape or form be it lawsuit past from the get go to the end of time with HDC will ever work together they all make me sick to my stomach, year after year taking and never giving what a crying shame.
HDC has always seemed to be caught up in some type of circus that everyone except us damn shareholders are constantly squeezing and tearing down the company. How could our company ALWAYS BE AS SUCH? It makes me sometimes wonder if all these people are working together and changing shifts each month or year.
Well!........it appears (and I maybe wrong?) that since "Vennwest Global Technologies" filed cause: 28:1332 "Diversity" -"Breach of Fiduciary Duty" would that indicate the rest of the puzzle that may indicate that "Vennwest" may have been financing Quirk & Bears lawsuit?
I wonder when Kowbel is going to show up?
King...I will read the information tomorrow but my thoughts are as follows.
With Intel we have documentations of a long history involving several patents so expiring patents doesn't matter (in my mind) however, involving Google, Apple, or Microsoft how much documentations and communications have we had with them involving any type of infringement possibilities?
Now what are the chances involving a reasonable or should I say favorable outcome with Intel? Keep in mind the massive history, discussions with and documentations involving them.
Next ask when has HDC knocked on Apples door or perhaps Microsoft or Googles door referencing them using our patents. It would seem Intel might be forced to pay something in settling the past years but Microsoft may have never been notified. So we notify Microsoft that we believe they are infringing, so when we do that would seem to be time start of the clock and documentations for any future legal event. Has HDC notified them...perhaps, have we tried the have them collaborate with us? I doubt that since we haven't heard anything indicated that from HDC however, that would be some great news if George is able to get more exposure but does he really want to press that at this time.
Now what is a possible shame yet George could be working on this idea as follows and recall MBMoney addressing this. So it is great we have the Lawsuit against Intel but is that all we have? As MBMoney would say (I believe) door on some doors and try to drum up some business that George and Directors need to be knocking on doors too as Intel isn't the only game in town so how about trying to license our patents and technology to other players.
HDC website even years ago Barnhill stated our SVM patents are earth shattering but as I see it it was nothing but shareholder shattering. HDC now talks of SVM-RFE technologies yet no takers? Is George just sitting at home waiting on the entire world to knock on our door? If so that won't happen as our history pretty talks the truth. State of the art SVM-RFE and the same ole nothing.
It is clear we should have had someone licensing our technologies by now. Do I need to count the years or the past directors and CEO that delivered nothing but pain.
George has done well but still he should have had additional corporation paying us some type of revenue by now.
It is unfortunate that it "appears" that 2 of the 4 patents involved in the Intel case might be expired.
Well! it looks to me involving case 20CV4567 Mark Moore vs. HDC that our company is using everything in it's arsenal to run Mark Moore in circles...but as of yesterday the game is even up and ready for the kick off.
Good_Sport, don't even entertain that idea regardless who may post it. You gotta look at it this way. HDC has history involving Intel but not with Apple, Microsoft or Google. What that indicates? unless there is some type of fast resolve with Intel we will NEVER be in a position to tackle another lawsuit of this magnitude plus our patents (most) may/will be a non issue due to expiration.
Let me put it this way? What do the patents have in common?
They are all interconnected and welded tightly together.
I believe Intel will have a problem trying to crush all 4 patents.
It is fact that more and more Algorithm "mixed" applications are
becoming patents.
Look at the long history of these patents, the dates, who was
involved way back.
The proven record and the masters of first design of SVM plus
the early enhancements by Guyon, Weston and Barnhill.
Intel will be hard pressed yet I still worry about discovery
depth and possibly patentability issues, yet the more I look
into this I think we will have a nice pay day ahead.
It seems to me that Intel may have made to many mistakes to face a jury trial but even if Intel figured screw their own patent let HDC have it why would Intel also try to deny our other patents 188, 959 and 483.
Another note we also know and I'm sure the Judge will be clued in that Dr. Weston and Dr. Guyon are masters of these historical claims within these patents involving SVM, SVM-RFE etc.
HDC has more going for them without even lifting a finger but time will tell and of course I'm nervous about all this as we will finally be at the end game of reality within 2 years. All I must do is live long enough to see the final score in this game.
This case needed to be handled in Austin Texas for several reason from what I read in the complaint.
So Intel said hey we can have that patent but I smile to think why Intel bothered to try and deny our other three patents
...right! if October comes and Intel asks for an extension with HDC agreeing with them then yes I would think they would be under positive talks but as our history has shown absolutely nothing about HDC has been easy except dishing out millions of shares to past directors.
If there was 1 company that should have gone into the "how to not make money" business it would be HDC.
Just hope HDC is able to finally land the big one either by agreement or court order....however, I gotta live long enough to see it happen.
I ran the math on this and due to the "D" series shares no take over by Intel is possible or anyone else for that matter (as if we have massive corporation knocking down our door to buy in) We knew we had 406 basic million shares out standing. Those "D" series shares 21 million are roughly 10:1 ratio in voting so this triggers around 626 million shares as to total "voting shares." That 210 million "D" voting business which we don't like actually keeps Intel or anyone else at bay. It appears to me that 405,000,000 + 21,000,000 = $213 million @.50 actually appears too low. My figures "involving a jury" come in at around $650 million dollars. Now as to plus or minuses on those figures it is anyone's guess.
Jury = 3x $213,000,000.00 = $639,000,000.00 "in LocWolf's pockets ; - )
There are so many avenues that we just can't see down?
Now what do I know right! Anyways... "if" some type of communications between the two Attorney Firms I feel that would be a start. I would also think if the October date for Intel to respond, and they ask for an additional extension and is supplemented by HDC to extend further is at hand that might indicate serious settlement talks however, Intel is a super large corporation and they will move slow because of that so the present October date of response I view as normal for such a large corporation.
Another thought? does HDC want a settlement or do they want that Jury trial. This is a very interesting area of thought and projection.
King! maybe Pennypop might have something? Look at this case...
On February 22, 2007, a San Diego jury found for Alcatel-Lucent and against Microsoft. Alcatel-Lucent was awarded a record-breaking $1.52 billion in damages. The damages could have been $4.5 billion but the jury was unable to decide if the infringement was "willful." Microsoft disputed the verdict, maintaining that the federal jury's decision was "unsupported by the law or facts",[9] since Microsoft had already paid $16 million to license the technology from Fraunhofer IIS which, it claims, is "the industry-recognized rightful licensor".
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Just maybe HDC has a much stronger case against Intel then we thought?
King...I like what Good Sport says in his last message referencing Royalties. My quick thought about a buyout is basically negative, I wonder if other corporations are watching to see if Intel challenges the patentability. This on one hand, if Intel is able to break down that area there is no reason for any other corporations to pay HDC royalties yet,... on the other hand, if Intel isn't able to prove patentability issue(s) with our patents they are screwed in a big way. If other players see that Intel failed it is at that time this stock would fly like an Eagle however???? How far can our time and money resources reach.
Hey I'm with you but! HDC has 4 counts against Intel, they all pertain to 4 different patents with claim violations so everything else (harm to HDC) would be downstream. Some areas may or may not come into the play, depending on the depth of discovery allowed by the Judge.
Myself, hey! it isn't that I feel Intel can afford paying out huge sums of money and no one should look at them or any company in that light it should always be governed in the depths of harm or money made by using someones patents or stalling a companies growth, be it by business or court process...as we seen in the past with Intel.
All in all you did read the complaint which HDC even states at least a fair/reasonable royalty if nothing else.
Mind you I love the format that HDC used with filing and the past documentations are outstanding but still a thingy called "patentability" and the depth of what the Judge feels about what is "reasonable allowable discovery" maybe a deciding factor upon any settlement by either side not just one side.
HDC needs a huge win and not 2-3 years from now but under 2 years or HDC will end up borrowing money from George and James again, let me keep an watchful eye on those "D" series shares.
Come on HDC you need to make deals (royalty) with other corporations while we are screwing with Intel, I know you can chew gum and walk at the same time...you will also spike the share price by doing so!
King I doubt that be the case unless this was stated in the present complaint against Intel. If that was viable enough our Attorney's would have addressed that area. Now a person setting on a jury could be swayed but believe both Counselor's would be instructed on rules prior.
As a Judge I would also look at the brief history of (HDC) the company and determine their products and product damages as to sales...OH! CHIT!...(0)
I think when it all comes down to it I never seen HDC go after any of the past Directors/CEO's involving our patents have you?
Now don't get me wrong I hope Intel pays at least a reasonable royalty but it is also easy to see we were never much of anything, either our patents were never viable or our past officers weren't. So with that Intel should pay some type of enormous fee? I think not but yes a reasonable royalty and perhaps a fine and for them not to pass go but to go directly to jail.
Hey we must have some type of humor in this mess. SEE...it is a mess right?....and a mess prior INTEL and NEO.
I'm glad you touched base on what technologies and patents go into a CPU, or products in generally to say the least. I personally felt that our technology or patents are involved but we didn't design our patents to make up the main course of Intel's Chip, Chipset, ROM or software flashing abilities but a general tool, an enhancement tool.
This is where I wanted HDC to define our SVM, SVM-RFE patents on the website to make it easier for all to understand better.
I do believe HDC will get it's chance to spike share price but that will form on timing of events and traders.
Hi Alan, nice to see you and hope you and family are keeping as safe as possible and that your wife fully understands the inflammation issues as mine does however, I did not listen growing up and is why my body is in such sad shape.
I'm still worried yet can't do anything about it, referencing HDC ability to go as deeply as they want with their legal discovery process. Maybe Intel does not want to see that happen, but who knows except Intel. My other concern will be the patentability issues which many just don't seem to understand that possible issue.
I am not going to post my figures as I have not the business, nor am I a "Semiconductor Design Engineer" as you are but my figure are night and day differences from those "typical" settlement projections.
I see they hammered the share price, no doubt we will only see spikes period
I understand but others may not, we discussed this many months ago.
I'm happy the 10-Q wasn't filed after hours.
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Now those that think Intel is at out mercy think again!
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Filing SEC filings on time does matter!
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Let's see where the traders jump off?
Considering everything, I am happy that George seen to it, to have the 10-Q filed midday instead of after hours. I see no surprises and it still looks like our CEO - George is managing HDC in a professional way. Yes I see the warrants and who likes that but also ask yourself how many they have exercised?...absolutely ZERO.
Thank You CEO-George H. McGovern III I am sure you are doing all you can and possibly more. I hope you are also able to do something with a player or two referencing the Biomarkers. HDC main business of operations was to be all about Biomarkers in the early days of HDC.
To clarify our CEO's "potential" holdings of HDC stock you did note I say "voting" shares. What pushes the the numbers way up are those "D" series shares that I mention and was worried about "prior" to the issuing. Their are or "were" as of June 20,991,891 issued. The voting leverage 10:1 so just those shares have impact of 209,918,910 shares let's just call it 210 million shares now add in his "present"common shares.
This is just an idea of the "D" series shares potential however I just may need to cut those shares in half as James Dengler is probably hold half of these shares.
At any rate...CEO - George let's start spiking the stock price with news.
None of that matters anymore but what matters can our CEO produce high enough spikes for shareholders to gain a get out of jail card and pass Go to collect $200 dollars. It is just that simple and you know why.
Heck, in 7 days we lose another patent, just too many wasted years.
One more statement, if the CEO doesn't produce the 10-Q tomorrow that won't be a good sign of taking care of business as he should, another common sense need
King, as to our CEO McGovern probable shares...figure w/the "D" include the potential "voting" shares "is" between 310-340 million shares. Prior extending common shares to 900 million we were breaking the bank in share count (as you know) so the increase from 450 to 900 common shares was needed it is also possible that granting 600 A/S shares may have still been too close when considering future loans, options and warrants. Of course all this you already know full well, no doubt also depends on future burn rate and I'm probably not even covering all the bases just discussions with you and other investors/traders.
So he has no intentions on letting anyone side track where he is headed so we will see what he can do referencing Intel. I do feel the majority of the common shares should always be in the hands of retail votes with the company "possibly" able to offset the vote but not in a way that our votes don't matter!!!
King, if we only had 4,000 new investors like Green we would be able to move this share price upward nicely but if not we will just have to settle for .20 to .40 spikes, with good news...actually, it might even take ground shaking news to wake this stock up.
King...as near as I can tell that Samsung application in the USA had 20 claims and the USPTO rejected all 20 claims in 2015 furthermore the refused all 20 claims in 2017 so Samsung kissed it good bye.
Would Samsung be interested? Your guess is as good as mine!
King, USPTO Office action is required so that Samsung patent could be reactivated, could be as simple as Samsung making a phone call or perhaps paying issue or maintenance fees. I am not going to search for the exact problem but anyone can find that easily by searching the USPTO website.
King, I need to do some work around the house and head to Home Depot.
Re: "jump start"...another thought! I doubt this to be true today because of the amount of shares upward kissing 8 cent but if a newbie in investing/trading sees a stock starting to move a bit upward and is not experienced in many aspects and software that person may always be 15 minutes behind what is really happening in the live trading world. This generally won't happen in large trades however in smaller accounts a person may start trying to jump ahead of the stock price that he is seeing and actually may be too far behind the bid or getting confused with the bid/ask. This could lead the person into pushing the share price upward but he is getting some fill orders then hammering up higher to get more shares instead of just relaxing and collect the shares as the stock price fluctuate throughout the day.
...Oops, so much for work, it is raining cats and dogs right now!
I'm not even watching the trades but maybe the buyer was after so many shares within a certain price range. I think it all depends upon a persons income abilities and taxes? HDC holdings wouldn't be like holding a million shares of Intel stock.
...of course another thought is the buyer even watching or dealing with the trades perhaps a brokerage firm is handling it for his client.