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Panda- We appreciate you disassociating yourself from this person. In private conversations and e-mails, MWL has very strongly insinuated that you and ScoreBig are close friends of his. He has also tried to use the both of you to give credibility to his theories (in private). I have a good bit of respect for the both of you and I hate to see someone like MWL drag your names through the mud. Good luck to you Mr. Johnson.
Mikerub and to all...I hereby submit to you that we make rub's post the most sensible post of the day. LOL!!
I've spoken with MWL on the phone. He's definitely not bugger. How do I know you ask??? I have spoken with bugger on the phone as well.
MWL- People get shares for this sort of thing all the time. What in the world is illegal about that? NADA my man.
It's a well known fact that certain people that come into this forum have received shares for services. More particularly, services in the form of selling 144's for the company. Did you not know this up until now? I'm curious to know why it has become an issue all of a sudden. It has been well known for a couple of years now. You also said:
My only question is still the stock options granted and the shares given to people, whom are on this board, for services rendered for promotion and consulting ??
Just a short time ago your only question was who was doing the tests on the prototypes.
What will it be next?
Right on Mr. Ed!!! EOM
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I think it is exlellent 34. If the big companies are merely waiting for the possibility of a good ROI before expending capital, then we should be able to benefit nicely. It beats the heck out of them not investing due to a lack of capital.
So how was your NVEI funded trip to Tahiti? Don't sell off your shares to buy 144's and then come back here and complain about the shareprice. Man oh man. LOL
As a sidenote...it's my understanding that Variety is the most widely read publication in the movie industry.
It looks like someone has pushed the snowball off of the top of the hill.
I thought I'd change things up a bit since we've been bickering so much lately.
Coming Soon to Baghdad – The Preview of the E-Bomb
Phil Brennan, NewsMax.com
Monday, Feb. 17, 2003
It will begin with a sharp crack, like the sound of a bolt of lightning hitting its target. In an instant, Baghdad and its environs will go dark. Even though turned off, fluorescent lights and television sets will glow and the smell of ozone mixed with the odor of smoldering plastic will seep from outlet covers as electric wires arc and telephone lines melt. Palm Pilots will feel warm to the touch, their batteries overloaded. Computers, and every bit of data on them, will be history.
Suddenly there will be a deadly quiet as internal-combustion engines shut down never to be restarted. No Iraqis will suffer any harm – they will simply be thrust back in time to an era where electricity and the electronics it made possible were non-existent.
Saddam Hussein will sit in his silent darkened bunker – suddenly stifling as all air intake systems shut down. With communication with his armed forces arrayed around the capital city no longer operating, he and his top generals will be rendered as mute as the troops in the field themselves. Only by carrier pigeon could be hope to contact his forces.
His missiles inoperative, his tanks without engines, his jet fighters downed, his radar installations useless, Saddam no longer has the instruments of modern warfare at his beck and call. He has been e-bombed back to the stone ages.
That’s the scenario for the opening of the invasion of Iraq if intelligence reports are correct. The age of the e-bomb has arrived and modern warfare will never be the same.
Early Beginnings
It all began in 1925 with the atomic research of physicist Arthur H. Compton who demonstrated that firing a stream of highly energetic photons into atoms that have a low atomic number causes them to eject a stream of electrons. Physics students know this phenomenon as the Compton Effect. It became a key tool in unlocking the secrets of the atom, to the development of the e-bomb.
Leap forward to the high altitude detonation of a hydrogen bomb over Siberia by the Soviets back in the 1960s which had an unexpected effect. It knocked out communications systems for hundreds of miles below the blast.
While testing hydrogen bombs in outer space, hundreds of miles above the planet, American scientists also discovered that each atomic blast created a pulse of electromagnetic energy similar to conventional radio-made microwaves, but with energy so great that they erased magnetic memories and melted the microscopic junctions in transistors on the Earth below. These were veritable tidal waves of energy, sufficient to cripple sensitive microelectronics but too weak to be seen, heard, or felt by human beings.
During one U.S. test, in July 1962, a hydrogen bomb was detonated approximately 650 miles in space, roughly where today's space shuttles orbit. Simultaneously, an incredible 2100 miles to the northeast, street lights went dark and burglar alarms began ringing on the Hawaiian islands. The reason was an electromagnetic pulse (EMP) produced by the blast.
According to a report by intelligence expert Major Scott W. Merkle, then a student assigned to the Air Command and General Staff College, Maxwell Air Force Base, Montgomery, Alabama, a declassified U.S. military report showed that the explosion of a bomb about one megaton in size (the exact size remains classified) eight hundred miles over Omaha, Nebraska, would shower the continental United States, southern Canada, and northern Mexico with an EMP capable of disabling virtually every computerized circuit in its potential damaging consequences of such an EMP attack in 1982, when he wrote in an obscure engineering journal
Dependence on Computers
“Today there is almost universal dependence on electronic computers. They are used by first-graders as well as research engineers. Industry, communications, financial records, are all at stake here. In the event of heavy EMP radiation, I suspect it would be easier to enumerate the apparatus that would continue to function than the apparatus that would stop.”
“Due to this reaction, in 1963 the United States and the Soviet Union signed the Atmospheric Test Ban Treaty to counter the considerable threat posed by EMPs,” wrote Major Merkle. “Since then, that threat has grown at a fantastic rate, fueled by the rapid progress made in compacting ever more EMP-sensitive transistors onto the computer chips upon which modern electronics rely. ”
Testifying before the House Committee on National Security, Military Research and Development Subcommittee, on July 16th, 1997 Dr Lowell Wood of the Lawrence Livermore Laboratory described the effects of EMP.
“Electromagnetic pulses, EMP, generated by high-altitude nuclear explosions have riveted the attention of the military nuclear tactical community for three-and-a-half decades since the first comparatively modest one very unexpectedly turned off the lights over a few million square miles in the mid-Pacific. This EMP also shut down radio stations, turned off cars, burned out telephone systems, and wreaked other mischief throughout the Hawaiian Islands nearly 1,000 miles distant from ground zero.
“The potential for even a single high-altitude explosion of a more deliberate character to impose continental-scale devastation of much of the equipment of modern civilization and of modern warfare soon became clear. EMP became a technological substrate for the black humor: Suppose they gave a war and nobody came.
EMP Wreckage
“It was EMP-imposed wreckage, at least as much as that due to blast, fire, and fallout, which sobered detail studies of the post-nuclear-attack recovery process. When essentially nothing electrical or electronic could be relied upon to work, even in rural areas far from the blast, it appeared surpassingly difficult to bootstrap American national recovery, and post-attack America in these studies remained stuck in the very early 20th century until electrical equipment and electronic components begin to trickle into a Jeffersonian America from abroad.”
EMP he said, “can induce large voltages and currents in power lines, communication cables, radio towers, and other long conductors serving a facility. Some other notable collectors of EMP include railroad tracks, large antennas, pipes, cables, wires in buildings, and metal fencing. Although materials underground are partially shielded by the ground, they are still collectors, and these collectors deliver the EMP energy to some larger facility. This produces surges that can destroy the connected device, such as, power generators or long distance telephone systems. An EMP could destroy many services needed to survive a war.
“Many systems needed are controlled by a semiconductor in some way. Failure of semi-conductive chips could destroy industrial processes, railway networks, power and phone systems, and access to water supplies. Semiconductor devices fail when they encounter an EMP because of the local heating that occurs.
When a semi-conductive device absorbs the EMP energy, it displaces the resulting heat that is produced relatively slowly when compared to the time scale of the EMP. Because the heat is not dissipated quickly, the semiconductor can quickly heat up to temperatures near the melting point of the material. Soon the device will short and fail. This type of failure is call thermal second-breakdown failure.(16)
Vulnerability
“It is also important to realize how vulnerable the military is to EMP. "Military systems often use the most sophisticated and therefore most vulnerable, electronics available, and many of the systems that must operate during a nuclear war cannot tolerate the temporary disturbances that EMP may induce."(17) Furthermore, many military duties require information to be communicated over long distances. This type of communication requires external antennas, which are extremely vulnerable to EMP.”
Dr. Wood was dealing with a so-called HEMP (High Altitude EMP) activated by a hydrogen bomb which was by then outlawed and considered unthinkable.
But even then the cat was out of the bag and the race began to develop a non-nuclear method weapon capable of delivering an EMP punch. If current reports are accurate the U.S. now has such a weapon – the so-called e-bomb, and is getting ready to demonstrate its power to Saddam Hussein.
According Associated Press Technology write Jim Krane, the U.S. may fire a cruise missile tipped with a high-powered electromagnetic-pulse emitter - a so-called e-bomb - "which fries the electronics without killing the people," said Andrew Koch of Jane's Information Group.
Wrote Krane, “The weapon's massive power surge is supposed to travel through antennas or power cords to wreck any unshielded electronic appliance - civilian or military - within a few hundred yards, according to studies cited by GlobalSecurity.org, a research organization.
Writing in the San Francisco Chronicle, Edward Epstein quoted Roger McCarthy, chairman of Exponent Failure Analysis Associates in Menlo Park, a firm deeply involved in developing futuristic weaponry for the Pentagon as declaring: "Kabammy! A huge electronic wave comes along, and sends out a few thousand volts. Wham! Your cell phone or your computer dies,"
Invisible Wallop
Epstein explains that the weapons “pack an incredible, invisible wallop, hundreds of times the electrical current in a lightning bolt. That ‘directed energy,’ in principle not unlike the power used more benignly in laser pointers or supermarket scanners, opens a whole new area of warfare, one that for now gives the United States a leg up on potential opponents.
In an age in which militaries rely on sophisticated electronics for everything from starting tanks and planes to using phones to direct operations, such a weapon could be devastating.”
Experts say that an e-bomb could also disarm Saddam’s chemical and biological weapons and disable underground military sites.
"If I was Saddam Hussein, I'd make a major investment in old motorcycles and go back to the era of World War II and use motorcyclists as messengers," retired Army Lt. Col. Piers Wood of GlobalSecurity.org, a group that tracks new weapons systems told Epstein.
"These weapons are really about taking the energy of high explosives and converting the wallop into electromagnetic energy to disrupt electronic devices," McCarthy said, adding that a good-sized version of the weapon would produce thousands of volts and 10 million amps in a microsecond. That's hundred of times the energy generated by lightning.
With the e-bomb an apparent reality, a warning issued by Rep. Curt Weldon during a hearing of the House Committee on National Security, Military Research and Development Subcommittee, on July 16th, 1997 raised a nightmarish possibility.
Said Weldon. “If I am the commander of North Korea and I have one nuclear weapon and that weapon is in the range of 1 to 10 kilotons, which I assume it is, and if I have the capability of a Nodong or Taepodong 2, system which I assume can reach an altitude of 250 miles quite easily, General Marsh—at least that is the testimony that has been give to me—and I want to do something to hurt the United States, I think the weapon of choice is to launch that device in the air and wipe out our smart capability and then dare us to respond, because we haven't killed anyone, we haven't hurt any buildings, and we, being a moral Nation, what is our President going to do? Is he going to set off a nuclear strike against North Korea, when they have not killed one person in this country, but it would devastate our entire infrastructure? That is what concerns me.”
MWL- Providing some backup would go a LONG way towards establishing credibility for yourself. That is ALL we have ever tried to get you to do. Being that you can't do it, your credibility is down the tubes. That is why you get the treatment you do here. You claim to know several mossbacks, but when we speak with them they question your credibility as well. And if they refute this when you speak with them, then you may want to be careful as you are in the middle of some potentially back stabbing type situations.
A copper technology solution??? CRAP. I must have bought the wrong stock. This is NVEO right?
If you remember correctly MWL, I agreed on points relating to dilution. We both agreed that the dilution is killing us right now. What we didn't agree on is the fact that they need to bring Dodi back in. It is always a pleasure speaking to people and having pleasant conversation. But that doesn't mean we agree. BTW, that phone call was mainly to get a feel for your character. Have a good one.
spoke- It seems that you may have overlooked a fairly important part of my last post. Here it is: " Don't take what I said out of context. I said that NEW VISUAL has no need to market the product. I never said the product didn't need to be marketed. "
Also, New Visual *IS* marketing the product. It's being done by making phone calls to people Brad AND Tom are very familiar with. If you will go and re-read my post I stated that very point originally. THEY ARE MARKETING THE PRODUCT. It's just not being done in a manner that is visible to us. Brad's specialty is marketing. Do you think that YOU know better than HIM??? He has much more at stake here than you or I. I think he's on the ball.
Business 101 (revised)
If you put your company in the yellow pages, make damn sure you have a product to sell first. People won't understand when you tell them it will be 6 more months before you can do anything for them.
etc. etc. etc.
yada yada yada.
You get the picture.
MWL- You said..."Does your company work, tech work , provide a service ? Then promote it."
At this time we don't provide a service. Why waste money on marketing the stock when people OBVIOUSLY want to see the ROCK SOLID probability that they will be getting revenues.
Trading 101
Don't get angry because your last trade didn't work out.
Move on to the next trade without emotion.
Don't expect a company to pay Dodi to hype a stock simply because you want to make a trade.
NEVER trade a stock that is in a downtrend unless you are going short.
NEVER come onto a message board and try to BS people into thinking you are ANYTHING but a trader. We can sniff people like you out from a mile away.
Have a splendid Saturday!!
spoke- You understood me correctly. NV has no need to market the product. The people licensing the rights will be doing all of that. All we need to focus on is making the phone calls and connections with the targeted companies that will be licensing our tech. Don't take what I said out of context. I said that NEW VISUAL has no need to market the product. I never said the product didn't need to be marketed. As for trade shows...I could care less about them. Whether or not Embarq is ever shown at a trade show will not effect the revenues. Give the telcos a product and they will be as happy as a tick on a hound dog.
Pengy- Excellent post. One thing I might add is that if people are not liking the dilution NV is having to do now to develop the tech, they surely will not like the millions of warrants that will be issued when Dodi is hired again. I for one would rather see every single dollar go towards development. Brad is acting almost as if they are almost at the finish line. Just sell a few more 144's to get us to the point that we have movie revenues.
Excel- I tried to edit the message after I made it but for some reason it wouldn't let me. Part of the edit went like this..." Get us to the point where we can see the revenues then use Quint to market the Dickens out of NV the stock". In that same attempt to edit, I also attempted to remove the comment about MWL selling. Oh well...
MWL- I'll have to agree with the 144's. I'm not at all impressed with the cheap shares going out the door myself. The jury is out on that one. Time will tell. Best, Elder.
MWL- After speaking with Brad Ketch about New Visual's plans on introducing and marketing Embarq, it is my understanding that they really have no need to attend trade shows etc. Tom and Brad both have many connections in the tech arena. They are on a first name basis with many of the higher ups at various chip manufacturers. Also, the number of potential direct customers for Embarq is relatively small and very targeted. What I mean by this is NV will not need to market the product to thousands of potential customers. They simply make a few phone calls (already done), tell them what the tech can do (done), give them something to test (done), and let it go from there. Once the tech is proven, it will then be the responsibility of the chip manufacturers to market the product to the various telcos and others who are potential customers (which I feel quite certain they have already AT LEAST put out feelers). Trade shows seem to be mainly for technologies that provide only marginal improvements...technologies where there is some competition in their field and they need to convince companies that they are better than the others. Now I could be wrong on that point. We may very well see a Cisco or a GSPN at a trade show with their brand spanking new Embarq chip showing it off mainly to garner respect but who knows. According to what Brad told 427 Cobra today, a telco told him that no one is even close to what we have. It sounds to me like Brad is doing most of the marketing behind the scenes. Who needs trade shows or Quint when you have confirmation from a telco that this technology is much needed and that there will be a market for it once it is complete??? I for one am happy that NV is not wasting precious funds on marketing the stock. I say develop the technology and the price will most definitely follow. Hey...didn't you sell out??? It's a shame that after "6 years" of being invested you choose to bail at the last minute. Oh well...we all make poor decisions at times. Have a good one.
Thank you for your efforts and also for sharing. It sounds like Brad and Co. are on track like most of us suspected. kaboom
I would rather they just release things as they happen. We could be in a sideways/downtrend for years to come. Just ignore the market is what I say!!
spoke- The registration will show up in the SEC filings. After purchasing 144's, they are totally restricted for one year. Once that year is up, the person must register the securities with the SEC (144's are unregistered shares). You have to keep registering the shares once a quarter until 2 years have passed since you made the original purchase. At that time the shares become free trading and no longer need to be registered. Did I use the word register enough times?
spoke- I had those thoughts as well. However, I then remembered that 144's sold last year would have to be registered with the SEC first. Now the ones sold two years ago are another story but I believe they were sold for a higher price.
jiz- Some are making the case for mm manipulation. Others tend to believe that people are selling to buy 144's. Another possibility is that people see us sliding down further and are betting that they can buy lower if they sell here. I personally believe it's a combination of all of these with manipulation playing a VERY minor role. People are selling simply because they see this as dead money for awhile. But what do I know??? Best, Elder.
Venice- Take a look at SGENX which is a Gold Fund and URPIX which is a BEAR fund. I have my 401K funds from a previous employer in these two along with a few losers. I won't bother telling you which ones the losers are. LOL. Good luck.
halston- Success is merely a series of failures you experience while on your way to the top. As long as you learn something with each failure then the experience is not wasted. Most people fail once or twice and throw their hands up in disgust and quit. I see NO signs that New Visual is quitting. That's why I'm still here. Anyone successful in business knows this. You have apparently never stepped out on a limb and done anything very risky. You might be better off in a nice index fund or mutual fund. I know of some great ones that can earn you 5 to 10% per year. Feel free to e-mail and I'll get you that information. Have a great day!
jmfumass- That is something we knew prior to buying into this stock. It has been in every filing for years. In other words, it's nothing new. That's why we don't even discuss it.
I wonder if, instead of placing a postage stamp on a letter to be mailed, we could simply glue one nvei share on the thing and call it good.
OK Your Honor, It was just suggested that you may have meant to say "allies" instead of "alias." That makes much more sense. LOL
What the heck are you talking about your honor? LOL
**** MWL ****
If you're up to it, I sure would be interested in speaking with you on the phone. My e-mail address is elderwolf@msn.com. I'll look forward to your e-mail.
Score- Please make sure you guys strategically place shareholders throughout the theatre to whoop and holler. Every holler could mean a million or two in a deal. LOL
spoke- why don't you post those questions again here on the hub. Send them in again and I'll do the same. If we can get a few others to send them also they may get the impression that we want an answer. There's no need to hide anything. I thought they were excellent questions. Best, Elder.
We should each come out of this with more knowledge than we had previously. If this completely fails (which I doubt), it will be just a part of the learning process.
A quote from Warren Buffett whom I happen to have a great amount of respect:
Remember that the stock market is manic depressive. Sometimes it is wildly excited about future prospects and at other times it is unreasonably depressed. Of course, this behaviour creates opportunities...available at irrationally low prices. But just as you would not take direction from an advisor who exibited manic depressive tendencies, neither should you allow the market to dictate your actions. The stock market is not a perceptor; it exists merely to assist you with the mechanics of buying or selling shares of stock. If you believe that the stock market is smarter than you are, then give it your money by investing in index funds. But if you have done your homework and understand your business and are confident that you know more about your business than the stock market does, turn off the market.
Source: The Warren Buffett Way by Robert G. Hagstrom, Jr.
Published by John Wiley and Sons, Inc.