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With all repect to you Paul, Lou may have had an eye for value
but at this stage of this stocks life I still think Lou would be into more conservative "values".
During Wall Street Weeks short run I never remember them mentioning any speculative plays and certainly no OTCbbs.
But dream if you must.
jj
ThalioWizbanger of course Louis would never invest in a stock
like CYGX. He did not have to. His picks by others on his show were highly conservative because they all had a great amount of wealth to invest from.
People like Louis Rukyser never needed to hit a home run and would not touch a stock like CYGX with a ten foot pole.
j
Holy one Louis Rukeyser was a very powerful individual who did not use his power to influence the market as well he could have if he chose to do so. As I saw it he used his influence to teach people the art of investing.
How the rich get rich and maintain their wealth.
I enjoyed watching his programs. In the last few shows I saw
him which was a while ago he did not look very healthy.
The end of an era.
Sadly "All things must pass" G Harrison
JJM
Yeah? And I know karaoke. I can sing LW to death ThalioWizbanger.
j
Holy one I still read the board at times. Thank you for your
kind words. I needed a break.
Let the chips fall where they may. Unlike Percy I still hold every single share. LBIX is up and I am happy. Another HANS?
Too soon to tell. As for CYGX.......
There is just the GE Healthcare PR that I have questions about. Which technology was GE referring to as ground breaking
regarding CYGX?
Synthetic DNA would be the logical answer but I think otherwise for some strange reason. Yes I know whatI have heard on this board that another company may hold the key to unlocking the gene expression technology.
Sometimes through the advent of struggle comes a new path.
JJ
Okay!!! I have had enough! BREAK IT UP! As in Stooges style!
All of you knuckleheads are acting like little children.
Houndish the 10-K can be construed as a PR however it is a constant that MUST come out hence no cigar for you.
Arnold it has been over a month since the last PR true however
I like the fact that this company keeps a magnitude of silence. Just because a PR has not come out it does not mean
things are dead.
The rest of you not news tomorrow. Volume and share price do not hint of news however accumulation and jockeying is taking place.
Now like I said play nice.
This is a frustrating stock for reasons I will not go into now which ARE management related. That is all I will say.
Hopefully something is in the works to curtail this bickering.
Now smile. It is a beautiful day outside. We have not lost this as an investment. This stock is not in a death spiral.
Ba happy everyone. News will be coming. Not this week though. Deal with it.
jj
This will probably end up deleted READ ON
Posted by: neo43
In reply to: gdepc who wrote msg# 33455 Date:4/21/2006 10:54:08 PM
Post #of 33473
VERY simple expanations, gdepc:
1. I wrote to LW from a neo43@______.com email address.
2. I took the time to substitute 'JH' for my name in the email record before I posted. That's all I edited, BTW, and I only did that because I have no more desire for my real name to be known here than anyone else.
3. That was the first email I'd sent to the company in many, many months -- probably at least 6, although I haven't checked my records.
-------------------------------------------------
There are those on this board who know who I am. Do not care.
I figure what is good for the goose is good for the gander.
It took you a whole day to figure out a response to the
mess Neo43 posted yesterday G. You are either an insider LW or
a plant simply stated G. Do you have the courage to email me?
If so la_cienegas@verizon.net to prove you are another.
Malcolm is not the problem here, only part of it that can be fixed. Fixing is getting someone/firm to handle the PR/IR chores other than Lawrence who is more concerned with watching this pip squeak nonsense board then getting on with the business at hand! Is that part of a responsible CFO's duties?
How is it that the CFO is so consumed with what gets posted on this board? This board is nonsense. Auntie nonsense to be exact!
Nobody but the little investors pay any attention to such drivel.
Is Jett here? Do not think so. Probably does not even know
of this board. The other big holder in Hartford? Is he here?
Do not think so.
They both have more important things to attend to then to be bothered with this forum. So why is it that Lawrence is so paranoid with the daily comings and goings of this board?
I was suspicious of Arnold and Hogger. They are harmless though.
Neo is also harmless. Just good investors trying to do their dilligence on a company with dynomite science technologies.
This is definitely my last post here because I want you all
to know that there are some GREAT people on this message board
who are NOT ANTI CYGX despite what paranoid G Lawrence or Paulness say. You know who you are. Just stick to you guns.
Neo's "conversation via email" with LW just popped my cork
in a way I cannot describe. Very tempted to sell on the next run up. If you cannot trust management who the hell can you trust? LW does not belong in upper management. He is a novice
at executive conduct or procedure prescribed by authority.
Simply put he does not belong, however, he is THE CFO and will be next to impossible to extract. Best to let a qualified individual handle the PR/IR duties which is my recommendation.
Steve, you will get an email soon. Promise.
The rest of you I bid a fond adeu!
There are other companies as I have said. Companies come and companies go. LBIX.....
Nearly you have mail as well.
jjm
Holycow so sorry. I am gone. Good luck.
I am through playing games.
j
You have mail neo.
JJ out
Nearlynapping I will promise.
j
Sorry houndish figure it out yourself. It is quite obvious.
Oh do not be surprised if your moniker has already been outted by this administrator to those in CYGX who wish to know who you are.
iHUB is not a place for anonimity. You will be known to those who wish to know who you really are. Rubbing elbows is common practice here from what I understand.
Old one I am out of here. Contact me by phone or email.
Neo I will continue to read. This place smells.
JJ
Arnold not only does management read this board they ARE posting here too. They have been warned in the past about
conficts of interest from what I have been told. Still they continue to thumb their nose at those who tried to warn them
in the past.
Let them continue. If I were a major shareholder with this company as in millions of shares I would not take this lightly. The SEC is a joke at times except when they want to make an example of someone. It would be just Mr. Kibbles luck
to have an unfortuante mishap like that here.
"All things come to pass" George Harrison
To some on this board you may think I am blowing this out of proportion. Maybe I am. It depends on whether you end up taking a hit while you are still holding.
This is just my opinion FWIW.
JJM
Neo43 I find it disturbing that Mr Wunderlich has time to squander reading this message board. By the by he does post here depite what others may have you believe.
Why does he have a problem directing you to the corporate bylaws? Why the attitude? Why does he find your post so uncomfortable? Red flags are beginning to show here. Truth hurts and if you as a shareholder do not like it then tough.
That is the attitude I perceive when reading your post Neo.
Maybe G told him you were an antiCYGXer? Maybe G is he?
Seems odd that he knew who you were and pulled your post right up.
Very disturbing indeed. His arrogance needs to be squelched
some if he intends to handle the PR/IR job himself.
Old one told me that LW asked for a name to go along with the call. Old one also told me he got a sense of plastic when talking to Lawrence. Sorry old one. I am being real. Please do not be mad at me for putting this out there.
Yes they definitely must get another outfit or an outsider
in to handle the PR/IR job. Lawrence seems like he is not very user friendly if he is treating shareholders the way he treated you Neo. I wonder if Lawrence would have treated Jett
that way if Jett had the same questions as you? Probably not
is my guess.
There once was a stock I was involved with where if anyone had anything negative to say about the company business or with the way management ran the show that person was chastized
and removed from the message board. This venue reminds me
of that company which by the by still exists and whose shareholders still refuse to listen to opposing points of view. Wunderlich has a different approach but arrogant nonetheless.
Simply put nepotism should be avoided at ALL costs. Shareholders should demand that CYGX work on getting a legitamate PR/IR firm or person FROM THE OUTSIDE.
As a shareholder I will not tolerate an attitude like
Wunderlich presented you. I just will not! There are other investments out there. Companies come and companies go.
I may want to contact you by email Neo. Old one (Auntie) has to confirm something with me first. If so I will post my email here.
Thank you for posting your dialog Neo.
Jimmy Joe Meeker
One more post for skoobyfl1. I thought you would like my prediction. If it comes true I will start playing the Mega millions and Powerball more often.
Sweet dreams skoobyfl1.
J
G all I saw on your post title was "JJ you are right".
Before opening your post I thought maybe you were referring to my Karl Rove comment. (laugh)
Have a good night all.
James Joseph Meeker Ltd.
OT-> Yes I did enter at $2.49. Small position.
I will be talking to you by phone about the stripers.
Sounds like a winner.
J
david there is no need to be weary. This company has made magnificent strides in a very short time.
I would love for those who have said in the past that CYGX antisense technology is not very far along to eat their words.
Was the synDNA the technology GE was talking of? Or was it
the expression technology they were saying was ground breaking?
Jimmy Joe
Houndish dilution of stock shares with most stocks adds to the number available to the investing public decreasing volatility. It also generally decreases the amount of money per share in revenue.
This in turn is usually not very good for stock price per share.
There are many examples of stocks going through this sort of thing. Rewarding employess with options private placements among other things can contribute to dilution of a companys
shares.
Hope this helped some.
JJM LTD
My prediction of the next PR. GE Healthcare/CYGX announcement of a collaborative DNA vaccine IND application.
June 2006
JJM
Neo43 from what Auntie told me via email Lawrence Wunderlich
handles the PR on incoming phone calls for investor relations.
One would hope they could hire someone or some outfit to handel the public relations/press release position.
Karl Rove may be too extreme for the job. (chuckle)
JJM
G let us get past this. At this point I do think it is very important that the powers that be not give themselves more than they already have for a while. If they do vote themselves more so soon the word oink may come to my mind.
Will I mind if they vote themselves more at some point in the future when CYGX has a much better footing both financially
and technologically? No. By then I should be well positioned too.
J
17 mill plus 4 mill = 21 mil
Total in Quorum was 96 mil minus 63 mil = 33mil
There were 33 million shares in Quorum that did not vote
for the stock plan.
33mil + 21mil = 54mil
Is that why management had an outside agency calling shareholders about three weeks before the vote? Because they knew it was going to be a landslide?
Do not think so. Not then. Not now.
jjm
'arnold'->Many on this board chose not to vote to try to prevent a quorum<-
Again you are CORRECT!
By not voting for the quorum it was like saying NO.
G it was not by a landslide despite what you derive.
Arnold is correct. You are wrong.
Management won but not by much.
If they choose to grant themselves another 18 million
they may as well sodomize the small investors. Dilution
is a no win for the small guys.
Let us hope they just stick to the buisness at hand the shareholders meeting. "Beware of greedy leaders" George
Harrison.
JJM LTD
Shares voted NOT shareholders G.
Jimmy Joe
'arnold' ->you can say the majority of shares voted for the options<- EXACTLY RIGHT!
Two major shareholders one of which lives in Conn and the other lives in Hawaii hold a majority of shares.
The rest of us are just very small investors in comparison.
jj
'Arnold' where did you hear about more options for management?
Nothing has been said about more options from what I have read
including the 10K.
Thanks
JJ
nearlynapping despite the negatives others throw out the possibilities are huge.
One poster now calling for a PR soon because the price is now at the $1.25 level? This is a level some were skeptical CYGX would ever reach this year and they now call for a PR to bump the price up? Gotta question their agenda bigtime.
The PR(s) will come in time oh ye of little faith.
As for GE Healthcare playing a minor role, I do not think so. There is more here than just reagents. Read the PR over again
slowly.
It may be a while before the next nice PR or it may come
sooner than I think. It will come though. If GE wasn't excited to be partnered with CYGX catching what others missed
and Aldevton were Cytogenix only partner I would agree with you. There IS something more going on here IMO. Speculation
on my part.
And Duratek sometimes having a gut feeling about something is a good thing. Schmuck. Not directed at anyone on this board.
Jimmy Joe
Standard safe harbour.
Hey ThalioWizbanger looks like you were wrong about Phenuel.
Oh well. Could not happen to a nicer guy.
(great big grin and a chuckle)
Back to the drawing board for you Thal. Keep trying though.
You never know. It could turn out you will be right one of these times.
Jimmy Joe
Neo43 "vaccine using synDNA is at least 2 and probably 3 or more years away."
I would give you a cigar of your choosing but the internet
prevents me from handing it to you. As far as I know you are
100% correct. (smile)
If someone could develope a vaccine albeit a synthetic DNA
vaccine faster than 2 to 3 years that would be quite an accomplishment. A 2 to 3 year time table is pushing it. For instance GSK may have something in the works in another 3 to 4
years and that is conservative according to my sources.
There is one factor I keep mentioning that is speculation on my part but could come to fruition. GE has known of Cytogenix synDNA for at least a year now as well as Aldevron. My speculation is that a DNA vaccine is already being worked on
and has been for a while. If so that in itself could cut the time table by quite a bit. Lastly the thing that intrigues me about CYGX synDNA and expression technology is from one of the PRs in which it was stated that "they" hope to cut the time it takes to develope a vaccine. How much time I cannot recall. If I am wrong I apologize. I do not have the particular PR in front of me nor can I remember which one it was from.
How is that for speculation?
Sun is coming up soon. Gotta go.
Jimmy Joe Meeker
Houndish it has been brought up on this board in the past about applications of the DNA expression technology and agricultural usage such as for crop plants. You talk of DNA vaccines which makes sense. Developing a bird flu vaccine for
domestic birds would certainly be nice. Mad cow desease where prions are involved would be more difficult I would think.
Any way in which Cytogenix technology could be utilized
would be great exposure for this company.
The one thing I hope for is that this company maintain focus on one or two projects. Too many cooks spoil the broth.
jj
"I think the next PR that hits the wire , these negative types won't be posting much."
Paul they will continue to post no matter what the PR. There will always be a negative to go with the positive.
My suggestion is to just yes them while really putting them on ignore.
Unless something really BAD comes out concerning this company
I am taking everything they say with a 100lb bag of salt. It is my opinion that the table is or will be set soon. Do not want to be late for dinner. Cold food is a drag.
I do see blue skies up ahead. Plenty of sunshine coming our way. Zippity doo dahhh. Zippity ehhhh.
Jimmy Joe
"The one question we have not been able to answers is why a person or group who distrust hate and bash management of a company owns stock in that same company"
G in their own words to paraphrase: "they like the technology"
JJM
Arnold today was a correction day FOR MANY STOCKS!
Lots of stocks got clobbered. CYGX was no different.
j
BigB correct.
jj
specul8 Neo is quite conservative and justly so. Because of the nature of recent news with Aldevron and GE some if not most shareholders feel something nice just up ahead.
I tend to think Neo is tempering his optimism.
Who would not like a quad or a quint on their investment?
They would have to be nuts not to.
jj
Bingo was his name oh.
Roland L. Violette................ 11,229,277 10.2%
70 Tolland St.
East Hartford, Connecticut 06108
(BIG LAUGH)
Mea two!
Jimmy Joe
Simplivir is not the only candidate Cytogenix has.
Yes Simplivir is Cytogenix candidate. I will venture
a not so far fetched guess that Aldevron and GE Healthcare are working in collaboration with CYGX on possible drug candidate(s) as well.
Simplivir may be going forward but my guess is that this is not THE priority at the moment. My guess again is that there
is something going on for either Aldevron or GE Healthcare or both that will involve Cytogenix in more than the synDNA aspect of their technology.
My speculation only.
My speculation also that we are not years away either.
jj