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No John. What I can do is answer the constant complaining
by suggesting he/she they SELL and move it on out. My choice
to put on ignore or to answer with common sense.
You and Arnold a tag team? There is no defense for accusations that are not true. "I am just trying to make a buck" does not cut it. Not when one finds fault with every
single thing from GE to synDNA to Aldevron to current Bird flu testing.
It gets old ya know?
What is better is that the same folks complaining know there is something good going on. Hell they would not be here otherwise! ))))))))))) They refuse to bail!!!
))))
Just seems odd that one would hold onto a stock one constantly complains about along with the management. Does it not?
You know it does!
JJM
There are other plays out there more secureand which can give more kick than this one at the moment.
This is a LONG TERM play. Not an overnighter. You know it as well as I.
j
Arnold it seems I touched a nerve. Did you take me for a fool?
Hope not. I think there is more to you than what you portray
on this message board. You were quite friendly with Hogger.
Were you involved with AVGI too?
j
Yep!
Franky
Yep!
Franky
G I told you that there would be some fault with this latest PR. There was. Even when big revenues eventually come in there will be complaints.
The "was there a sale to Aldevron?" has had its teeth kicked in. The "did CYGX get revenue form Aldevron and how much" is now the question. It is always something. Those who try to discredit constantly. And I thought ThalioWizbanger(Lawrence Oliver) was bad.
JJM
As do the bashers. (Those with an opposing agenda.)
j
If you are that worried about the SP then simply dump out NOW.
Put your money to work elsewhere. Since management sucks so bad and nothing seems to be happening as you sit and wait and complain just bail. Do us all a great big favor. This is such a bad investment that looks like it will never achieve its potential.
Sell out and leave this horrible mess behind you.
Thanks!
jj
Maybe they just are not sure you are who you say you are.
That is your problem.
If they treat you so badly maybe there is a reason.
By the by I know someone who has gotten answers by calling CYGX or emailing Arnold.
Guess it just depends on how you are received or how you make your presentation. Trout fish much Arnold? Presentation is key.
Good luck
j
What do you consider a meaningful order?
The fact that Aldevron ordered at all should be enough
to convince the average investor the synDNA is for real.
Yesterdays PR shows that there is third party interest.
Still not enough?
"This has nothing to do with the stock market or other biotech stocks, it has to do with the credibility of CYGX."
What about the credibilty of Aldevron? Hello?
Was it not you who speculated they had not made a sale to Aldevron at all?
Was it not you who speculated Cytogenix had not received payment from Aldevron yet? You were 100% wrong on both counts yet harped on it for weeks.
"The continued use of PPO's and the lack of news on financing are not helping the stock price."
Agree. BUT right now there just is not enough meat on this chicken to fatten the SP.
Just sell and move on. Do us all a favor.
JJ
They can right now with just one unit supply enough synDNA
for their needs be it their experiments and or small quantities for sale. Validation of this synthetic DNA is a real key here. I am not sure of how long this process will take.
It is not like a simple method transfer validation. Real data and facts must be generated and found to be consistent with claims. Biotech of this sort is new to the FDA.
Validation of their synthetic DNA is to me more of a story
than revenue generated. Do not get me wrong. I do think third party interest and the fact that their synDNA has gotten Aldevron's stamp of approval is a major win.
For me validation of the product is essential and will be a
key step in helping SP move higher.
If this product is as good as Chambers thinks it is the sales will be no problem. Once validated the whole gambit of phase trials is at everyones disposal. Anticipate big sales.
Notice I said Chambers and not CYGX.
On another note that is related to the production facility
for CYGX could CYGX not temporarily utilize production space from a partner while they get their own facilty up and running?
Someone whose facility already has FDA approval for such
endevours?
Just thinking out loud.
JJM
Why not call management up and ask them directly instead of speculating Arnold?
Low volume nobody is buying. Low volume nobody is dumping out
either.
j
Kurt came to CYGX from NASA.
Kurt L. Berens – Vice-president of Product Development
Mr. Berens has ten years research and development experience in ethical drugs and medical devices. Mr. Berens has been a collaborator on projects in academia and was most recently the Manager of the Cellular and Biomedical Section at NASA-Johnson Space Center. He was a Senior Project Manager for Texas Biotechnology for six years, Mr. Berens was part of a development team that was successful in obtaining FDA approval for Argatroban®.
Houndish Mssr Chambers was who I was referring to as for the contacts.
G if this is not enough to squelch the naysayers then I say we forget them.
Mssr Chambers seems to excited about being able to supply
synDNA of this quality at this speed.
Management MUST be doing something right!! Do ya think?
j
By the by I am sure some will find fault with this PR somewhere.
Some folks have some real problems.... like life.
Jimmy Joe Meeker LTD
Note the contacts in this PR please!
CytoGenix Receives Re-Supply Order for synDNA(TM)
Tuesday June 13, 9:15 am ET
HOUSTON--(BUSINESS WIRE)--June 13, 2006--CytoGenix, Inc. (OTCBB:CYGX - News) announced a follow-on order for the production of synDNA(TM) from a client referred by Aldevron, LLC (Fargo, ND).
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The current order for synDNA(TM) was placed after the initial batch of synDNA(TM) proved to be the preferred material for use in the manufacture of innovative products by the client. While the details of the order were not disclosed, success in the next, final series of tests could result in future orders for gram quantities of custom synDNA(TM) material to satisfy the client's anticipated demand.
"The CytoGenix synDNA(TM) technology is ideally suited for many of our clients when conventional plasmid DNA is too costly or difficult to produce," stated Michael Chambers, President and CEO of Aldevron. "The first order of synDNA(TM) met and exceeded our expectations in terms of quality, cost, and turn-around time."
"The relationship between CytoGenix and Aldevron continues to be mutually beneficial," said Malcolm Skolnick, President and CEO of CytoGenix. "We are delighted to service clients by utilizing our excess production capacity thereby generating revenue to fund our internal product development programs."
About CytoGenix: CytoGenix, Inc. is a Houston-based biopharmaceutical company that develops and markets innovative products and services based on its proprietary ssDNA expression technology. The company has developed a breakthrough synthetic process for large-scale production of high purity DNA at fraction of the cost of traditional fermentation methods. CytoGenix currently has one issued US patent and over 47 international or US pending patent applications claiming methods and materials in connection with this platform technology.
About Aldevron: Aldevron provides contract services to accelerate gene and protein based research. These include plasmid and protein manufacturing for preclinical and clinical applications. For instance, Aldevron manufactures a west-Nile vaccine that has been recognized as the world's first DNA vaccine to be used outside of a trial setting. Aldevron's GIA(TM) technology can be used to rapidly screen new vaccines and to develop antibodies to any gene-specific antigens. Aldevron has facilities in Fargo, ND and Freiburg, Germany. For more information, please visit http://www.aldevron.com
SAFE HARBOR: Except for statements of historical fact, the statements in this press release are forward-looking. Such statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from the statements made. These factors include, but are not limited to, general economic conditions, risks associated with the acceptance of new products, competition, and other factors more fully detailed in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Additional information about CytoGenix and its technology can be found on the website at www.cytogenix.com.
Contact:
CytoGenix, Inc.
Kurt L. Berens, 713-789-0070
or
Aldevron, LLC
Michael Chambers, 701-297-9256
Arnold does this PR clue you in YET?
From the PR "The CytoGenix synDNA(TM) technology is ideally suited for many of our clients when conventional plasmid DNA is too costly or difficult to produce," stated Michael Chambers, President and CEO of Aldevron. "The first order of synDNA(TM) met and exceeded our expectations in terms of quality, cost, and turn-around time."
I guess the order for Aldevron NEVER happened? CYGX never got payment? No revenue for 2006?
Hello?????
Knock knock knock!!
Arnold?
You stop your speculation. It is happeneing. With Aldevron.
JJM
Figures Cramer would like Schering which has also had problems of its own.
Merck has some products coming out of the pipeline. They also have a pipeline. Take Cramer's advice make Cramer's mistakes.
Merck will be okay despite lawsuits some of which Merck has won.
They have laid off and hired back.
IMO they will be okay.
j
jeff177 it has not been years since the last PR was announced.
According to you it will be 2007 or longer before revenues are produced.
If you expected news to hit the wires right away then you are doing yourself and everyone here a favor by selling at this point.
Noone can predict 100% that CYGX will be successful. It is all part of the risk we as shareholders are willing to take.
The upside is potentially as Trump's baby would say "HUGE".
The downside is complete and utter failure.
Good luck and please do keep your eyes peeled. One never knows.
JJM
Not if one is affiliated with Merck.
j
Could not happen to a nicer guy although Arnolds artical on testicals holding the key would have been better used if they could have captured that scumbag Abu Musab al-Zarqawi alive.
No anethesia. Just slice and dice.
JJM
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Holy one I really do feel that something nice is right around the bend.
This summer may be another buying opportunity. Some things
take time.
I do not expect this stock to stabilize at higher levels until they start to pull in some nice revenue dough. Until then it is still an OTCbb that will have major ups and major downs.
Mr. Kibbles is asleep. Something I should do.
jj
Ahh but nearlynapping here is where attending a SHM can help even those who have done their DD to the utmost:
1- One can ask the hard questions directly to those they need to ask. I have attended other company SHMs where one can engage in direct conversation with those individuals one wants to get answers from. Do you not agree that it is better
to talk to someone in person rather than on the phone or through private emails?
2- Put those in question on the spot! Especially if you do not agree with certain actions the company has taken or not taken.
3- Body language, facial expressions, along with the answers themselves can sometimes give the inquirer a very bullet
proof answer. No stumbling or bumbling allowed.
There are a few more burger dots I could add but I think these will suffice.
In conclusion nothing really beats attending IMHO.
Jimmy Joe Meeker LTD.
Sanoman "There you go again (the editorial you all) giving investment advice". I give you no such thing. If you really believe that I believe you can do a better job leading this company think again. That is unless you have experience like
William Marshall which I truly doubt.
So quit your bitchin. If you think this company is doomed to failure cash out while you are up, even 7500 shares in your Roth.
If you hate the present management now what will you say later? Cryin' about who is who will not change anything.
It is as it is. Take it or leave it.
And yes, SILENCE is best. Plenty of two bit companies who love to put the cart before the horse. In this case synDNA
and GE and Aldevron ALL SURPIRSES. Only volume told the investor of a possible action but it did not say when.
Loose lips sink those ships. Maybe you like the Titanic. I prefer the Queen Mary. Shuttling troops back and forth to Britain the Gerrys never knew her comings and goings.
Success or failure?
Posting the other side of the coin or beating a dead horse? Playing devils advocate or just playing the devil?
Who knows. Who cares. I am in and that is all that really matters. There is something coming IMO. I am sure you will find fault with whatever it is no matter what it is. And I thought Marilyn Chambers was insatiable. You guys beat her
by a country mile.
Jimmy Joe
G there is a time when one must stick to their basic instincts
and sort the wheat from other dried plant material.
Would I have loved to go to the SHM? You betcha.
Mr. Tibbs, ncs4, sauce, and all others who went next time I am buying a round.
Seems to me (James Gang) that again patience is the name of the game.
Does the competition want to know the extent of
CYGX deals and with whom? Again you betcha.
Got a funny feeling about the who is who on this board. I think I have been way wrong. Oh well. Will not be the first time. Eh?
JJM
Arnold if it is DD you want and not BS then why did you not attend the SHM? You could have bagged your game instead of
speculating about it.
nuff said....
Frankie
Sanoman while the stock price "does not lie" it is you who must remember that this is an OTCbb stock. It is not Wyeth
Merck or Astra Zeneca nor is it on the NASDAQ NYSE or AMEX.
The price will fluctuate like this with companies who have yet to record revenue who are start ups and who must choose this exchange as a start to bigger and better things.
This is not a slam dunk by any means. There IS risk asscociated with this stock.
IF you are disenchanted with the SP perhaps you should consider looking for something else. Nothing happens overnight in this sector. Things take time and problems
are a constant that must be factored in.
If you run a company maybe you and Arnold should throw your hats in to run this one. I am sure you would find out that there is much more to running this type of company then what appears on the surface.
I happen to like the fact that there is silence. I do not like other potential competitors to know what will come next.
I like to keep them guessing.
As Houndish has posted jokingly CYGX may release something
very good soon. It could happen at almost anytime.
Will it have to do bird flu?
Keep em guessing.
jj
Got off work fearfrost and decided to play Ketchup.
Wanted to get some perspective on the SHM. I had wanted to attend but like usual things happened. If it is not one thing it is the other. Seems like it is always something.
Anyway like you I have enjoyed the posts of Sauce Mr. Tibbs
and nc. If this investment holds and shows more by this time next year I promise to attend the next SHM.
Like fly fishing for the white perch run every March for the past 7 years I just never seem to make it.
One of these years.
Jimmy Joe
So reduce the cost from $300-$250K to $50K per gram.
Gotcha.
jjm ltd
Contrary to what you think Arnold your posts are ALWAYS
in a negative light. Your supply/demand logic is totally flawed. The constant bashing is transparent. If it is not
proof of the sale to Aldevron it is something else. Always something with you man. Devils advocate doe not cut it anymore.
And I thought Thal was bad. So what wrong did MS or LW do you in the past?
Frankie
ThalioWizbanger logic. Huh?
Yepper!
j
Why the fixation on Merck? Do you work for Merck?
jj
"CYGX should sell a license agreement to Merck"
Have you contacted management about this idea? If management thinks this not such a hot idea, why?
How do you know they have not worked out something similar with a company they are already involved with?
j
How can CYGX promote synthetic DNA at this time when their manufacturing capabilities are next to nothing in the grand scheme of things?
If you have no inventory why would you promote sales? To piss the customers off?
You make little sense Arnold.
jjm
What G is saying is that here will be much more demand if
synDNA is more affordable and attractive to companies to move foward in the DNA vaccine area. You build it and they will come. If you provide it at a much more affordable cost they
will put more $$$ into this area of research.
If successful then you talk about supply and demand.
J
I agree with a few here. Why sell something at a totally
cut rate price. Force the other companies to suffer a slow
decline in sales. Sell synDNA for at least $225-$240K per gram. Why not make the most of it?
Makes little sense to sell it for $33-$66K/gram.
j
"why do we need a 2M synDNA building?"
First of all I would like to say that $2 million is not that much money. It cost my company $4 million just to move the print shop and QC lab into a new print room and QC lab.
I look around and ask "$4 million for this"?
It doesn't take much to blow through $4 million. $2 million
is not much money to speak of.
jj
Nope. Not you houndish. You seem well adjusted.
Jimmy Joe
Larry Brown.