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Happycamper do not be surprised if there is no PR announced
before years end. It may be a while yet thus blowing your theory to crap.
By then the natives should really be getting restless. It should be a fun time watching weak hands fold up if no PR(s) is(are) announced.
Having fun with the doubters just because
JJM Ltd
Somebody is not a happy camper. Must have touched a nerve G.
Just the mention of AVGI seems to aggregate some folks on this board.
Jimmy Joe
bigworld just take the loss and move on. It is that easy.
Cytogenix will have a tough time selling your shares. You can unload 300K?
Just sell and move on.
J
Johnny XOM thanks to this administration is taking us (the consumers) to the cleaners.
XOM is not a start up biotech.
Remember the Exxon Valdez oil spill in Prince William Sound?
You would do well to sell your shares of Cytogenix and buy some XOM. They have your best interest at heart. A company you
can trust. $10.6 billion this Q.
JJM
And? What is your point? You think he may be too old?
Age is honor.
JJ
If you feel so bitter about Skolnick and the direction this company is going WHY DO YOU STILL STICK AROUND?
Do yourself a favor and sell your position.
Do the rest of us a favor and sell your position.
Find something more to your liking Arny.
Maybe Exxon/Mobil which just raped us with quarterly profits of ~$10.6 billion. No scam there right? Still being ripped off at the pump even though prices seem cheap at $2.00/gallon.
Just sell and move on dot org.
JJM
holy one look at todays volume. Dried up. Definitely not a dump
because of bad news. So what is it?
Do not fret. There will be big volume days in my opinion.
Accumulation is ongoing. Again just my opinion.
News has not really leaked out just yet. It may take a while if indeed there is news to leak. My Pet Goat may make the NY Times best seller list.
If there is another shareholders meeting it will be an interesting time. Just think of the fun we shareholders can have asking management about their responsibilities to us the shareholders. That IS the time to corner these guys. Not debate the issue on a message board. Ask them point blank. WTF is up?
Arny that is the time for you and Ilene to stoke the wood on the Q&A fire. At the shareholders meeting.
I do not for one minute think these guys are not working as hard as they can to deliver despite what others think. If they are not doing their JOB then I am the fool. Nuff said.
Jimmy (the fool?)
"But you should still respond to the survey regardless of the criteria you are using. MS could use some more luv."
Why bother answering you? If you cannot derive an answer from my post that is your tough luck. Just sell your position and quit your bitchin'.
Corporate America is what it is nearly. Just who the heck do you work for? Are they receiving more than they deserve? If you work in America the answer is 98% in all probability yes.
Stat that!
Now we have shifted from AVGI to Phenuel Pursuits to David Lane
to whether synDNA works to if it works where is the Alfa Laval prototype to GE then to the prototype and onto Aldevron. Now we stand at the point of no news for a couple of months with the occasional Q blurb from MS and a chapter about My Pet Goat.
Just keep on complaining. Selling out would be the best option for those of you digusted with this investment. It actually could turn out to be the best option. Who knows?
As for me I will play on. I suspect something(s) are ongoing.
JJM
Do not know Gutaquest. If you work for Volkswagon and receive
minimal union wage I assume this is what they go by.
Ask some of your German friends about this restriction on how much a CEO can make in Germany. Or go do some DD yourself and find out. I am sure DW news can help you become informed.
I love the misinformed or the ones who seek answers through the message boards. Amazing DD on these boards.
JJ
Your "vote" is dogmatic in nature. Read my previous diatribe
about top executive compensation and figure out my vote yourself.
Meanwhile like I posted and will continue to post you have a choice as a shareholder like it or not.
J
I tend to agree with your post knowledge. It will not matter when news comes so long as it is NEWS we can sink our teeth in. No fluff needed. CYGX researchers adding a chapter to "My Pet Goat" does nothing for me.
JJ
downregul8 one company? I say there is no company in America
where top execs do the "right thing" and take minimal compensation for nonperformance.
It seems as though German workers on the other hand along with the German people had about enough of these corporate
shananigans and put into law a stipulation where the top execs can only make ten times the lowest wage of any person working in their company. This includes stock options. The German people had enough of the bullshit.
Lets face facts here things in America will not change until the American people say enough to both the Republicans and the Democrats on this issue of executive compensation. It starts with the politicians in Washington who have buddies who contribute for special interests and so forth. It is not so much a corporate matter as it is a political matter. And the American workers continue to get screwed with not even pensions to look forward to. Something the corporations have found a way around so they can put the money toward the bottom line and get that stock price up for executive/major stockholder reward. 401Ks are a joke. People who live from paycheck to paycheck are expected to save? After giving YEARS
of service to these companies while the top execs have "golden parachutes" massive paychecks and stock options
out the wahzoo? If corporate America continues on this track
I predict some very dire consequences in the not so distant future. Sorry I got side tracked. Back to those in charge of this legal deception the top executives.
Holding those accountable who make these huge sums of money
because the have a piece of paper in this or that or struck up a friendship with Joe Blow while play the back 9 is a very tough thing to do. Take Ken Lay or Jeff Skilling for example.
Lay never really paid the price. He took the easy out. Skilling is serving what? 25 years? For taking life savings of thousands along with their jobs? He got off with a slap on the hand. He should have gotten life without parole.
Or take Chad Holiday who exports American jobs to South America and India and who has done NOTHING in his tenure as CEO of what was once the CHEMICAL GIANT in the USA Dupont.
Nepotism got Chad his position because Dupont does not allow outsiders to infiltrate the top positions in the company.
And you think CYGX is highway robbery? Although wrong this is small potatoes in comparison to Enron Dupont or other corporate entities who do business the good old American way every single day of the year. CYGX management just follows the code that others set long ago. Hey why not? Money for nothing and your golden parachute for free.
So what do we as shareholders do to ensure MS and LW and FV and the rest do their part to make this company a success?
What can we do? You tell me. Be like Arny and just rant 24/7?
Will that help? I do not think so.
We all have a choice here as shareholders. Either you believe
this company will have direction by directed or you do not.
If not the best thing I can see doing is cashing out and pursuing another investment with the money. If one still has
some semblance of faith hope or belief things will eventually come together then you just make due with something you cannot control. That is my take on this thing.
James Joseph Meeker Ltd.
For the record: I for one have stated I do not feel revenues will be a significant improvement over last quarter.
Weak hands should pack it in. One will have to have a hell of a constitution to stick this company's future out. If they even have a future. (smile)
JJM Ltd
Volume was almost back to normal yesterday. Keep a watchful eye on it. It will vary week to week. I do expect near million share days at wide spread intervals.
I hate to be a bubble buster but unlike many of you I feel news may be further off than December 2006.
Good thing is maybe I will be wrong.
JJM
Okay ladies and gents we are all in agreement that this and just about every other company pays its executive branch way too much for the work they do (which ain't much) and the compensation up to this point for this group has been tremendous for virtually nothing in return
HOWEVER
we CYGXers (the RBW and the COMPLAINERS) are stuck with this management group for better or worse. Like it or not that is just the way it is folks.
Now all we can do is
hope for direction by directed
OR
if you think this management will ultimately fail dump out take the tax loss or gain and find something better.
Why go over the same nonsense day after day?
Just cash out and be a happycamper.
Jimmy Joe
Name me one company which is not German that does not pay its
executives over inflated salaries which include stock options.
Thanks in advance.
JJ
Wow. Nice read Holy one.
downregul8 what seems pointless to you IS exactly the point.
OCTbb stocks are highly manipulated FACT.
Why do you think a primary objective of many OTCbb companies is to get listed to a "higher" exchange such as NYSE, NAZ, or AMEX. Not only manipulation but also institutional buyers. Many are restricted from buying anything on the OTC exchange and those that do buy for other exchanges such as NAZ have set rules of at least $5/share for a minimal time frame. There are no companies I know of that are companies of great standing who operate from the OTCbb. FACT.
With all of the things you listed such as no known deals from GE at this time, no known facility, unclear rate of general sales interest for synDNA, etc. Isn't it any wonder CYGX is still at its present value of $0.75/share? I find it absolutely amazing. That is manipulation. With the lack of news I would have thought CYGX to be in the below $0.50 range by now. It is not though. Like I have posted as with today
there are those trying to push the price down but too much support. 318,000 is not stellar volume but when connected to
the 500,000 on Monday along with the 350,000 on Tuesday and
meager 150,000 Thursday the volume sure looks like accumulation to me. If this was a wholesale dump and word got out that things were bad the news would spread much faster
and the dumping volume would be enormous. Buddies tend to protect buddies. On the other hand when people tell friends and family something nice may be happening soon at this company so you may want to get in. Oh sorry can't tell you what it may be people tend to dip their toes in the water rather than jump in head first.
When National Scientific came out with a way to make the Tunnel (TMOS) diode back in 1998-1999 NSCT OTCbb shot up from $1.66 to about $20.00/share. They had nothing by the way. So was that a sign of a company with the goods or was that just a bunch of manipulation? By the way they never had any potential to make money because they did not have a product.
NSCT since then had to develope a whole new business plan in order to survive. They may be gone by now. Who knows? Who cares?
I am patient. I think this company has the goods. I cannot do anything about the management so I must go with the program.
With GE Healthcare and Aldevron on board I am optimistic that this is the beginning of good things to come and an indicator of direction by directed. Am I now the phrase I coined? A rainbow warrior? Do I wear my rose colored tints while listening to Ethyl Mermin singing "Everything's Coming Up Roses" donning my pink bunny slippers with rose colored pom poms in each hand after I have downed a full bottle of rose colored musketell?
You bet your bippy I do!
Now off to give Mr. Kibbles a hairball treat. Hope he yacks a big slimey one tonight. The bigger the better.
James Joseph Meeker Ltd
And once more Nearly "I am sure that LW and company are out there somewhere pumping the stock to some new folks trying to continue to raise money and offset those who occasionally sell out."
Are you sure? Good if you are. You can just put me on your ignore then. My posts will be of little value to you.
Good luck
JJM
Nearly read my post. All of my post. The content.
Watch for the volume spikes to be intermittent. Volume will dry up. Then KABOOM! up side the head.
This will be a week to week thing. An occasional happening.
Hope this clears it for you.
JJM
Theories? More like observations. And they are not WAGs nearly. More like WTFs.
JJ
nearly I did not call names I merely mentioned what I look at when monitoring a holding. The fact that share price seems to
be a major concern here for some tells me these people are in this stock for the wrong reason. They want instant gratification which is NOT going to happen in this sector unless your holding comes out with an HIV cure.
To sit back and constantly bring up the "stock is half of its
high" at this point is pointless. This is an OTCbb stock. It is a start up company. It currently has minimal revenues. It is being manipulated like so many OTCbbs are.
If these same people are so concerned with the direction of this company my advice to them is to find something else to plunk their money in. Horses cannot be changed in midstream
at this time. Management is in it for better or worse.
So your saying my post was a personal attack really has no merit. The "honey" and "Sherlock" was based on Ilene and "their" abilities to do court room DD. I just figure if they are such great private investigators they will be able to find the accumulators IDs.
It is not hard to figure it out. (just my speculation(s))
JJ
Housing market is starting to crash (correct) all over.
I know you will miss the biting cold and snow. Not!
Good luck.
J
Koby they only come out at night. Nosferatu.
"Someone(s) accumulating at this level. Must be good news on the immediate horizon."
You see it too. Would love to get more if I had the cash.
I like to diversify though and not put all my eggs in one basket so to speak. I feel I have enough CYGX now.
LBIX I expect more news in late January to late February.
Time to load into that one then.
HTI time is very soon. As soon as last phase clinical is over and FDA approves Hylenex with IFUSE system this one will gain.
Then there is the phase four arthritis candidate. I have yet to buy HTI. Will be looking to buy some soon.
JJM
bigworld that was HTI as in Halozyme Therapeutics Inc.
not Technologies.
JJ
Everything is speculation noforgetting. The only way I would be in the know is if I worked at Cytogenix and I do not.
Look at todays volume. Drying up. I agree with you.
Monday over 500K yesterday about 300K. Today seems tame.
Watch and see if this pattern does not repeat itself.
Could be someone dumping out yet I tend to think there is and has been accumulation ongoing since Mr. Tibbs made note of it
a month or two ago.
Same sort of thing happened before the GE and Aldevron announcement. Massive volume swings that were intermittent and volume seemed to dry up inbetween.
We are due for news too. Support is there. Price is being pushed down but MMs are able to get more than they are willing to sell it for because there are those willing to
pay for it.
Shear speculation notforgetting. One can start dot connecting
but that is all nonsense unless one actually does know something.
I base all of my insight on what I see with volume price and manipulation. Who wants what. Do they want to get out? Or get in? Is price dropping like a rock or holding steady for the most part? What is happening on those "heavy volume" days (500K or more)?
Could it be some folks are dumping for tax loss? Could be but why do shares get snatched right back up and in some cases
at 5-6 cents more? Everything is around $0.80 or lower.
Mr. Tibbs saw this pattern emerge a while ago. He is very good. That is my opinion despite what others think of his calls.
J
bigworld check out HTI Halozyme Technologies.
Two candidates one in final phase clinical. The other is an arthritis recombinant that is in phase four. It too scheduled to come out soon.
Share price is ~$2.70.
JJ
Keep your powder dry Sauce. Some weak hands are folding while some strong hands take their shares.
If volume is exceeding and price per share drops rapidly like a lead balloon then worry. Other than that I would say things are shaping up just fine.
Has anything changed on this board?
I would say yes.
Note the players. More new faces will be dropping by in the near term I think.
My thoughts are that news is still a ways away however there are those who are getting wind of something. A customer or JV with a partner or new entity? Who knows.
Monday was the tip off. Mr. Tibbs has been saying it now since late August. Monday was the clincher. Strong support
at this level is another clue.
JJM
Arny or Ilene is a mathematician to boot!
Honey I was talking about volume not price.
It must be Ilene. Somehow I know.
Not everything in my world revolves around price.
In your world price is your mainstay. I understand completely.
I used to be like you long ago.
Monday was no fluke. Yesterday wasn't either.
We will have these spirts in VOLUME.
Keep your eye on the volume ball.
Do not fret when the price goes down.
It will continue to be pushed down but someone(s) wants in bad enough they are willing to eat a few cents here and there. They do not care.
Now Sherlock it is up to you to figure the who and why.
Prediction: more intermittent big volume days are headed this way. Now get cracking on your DD.
Good luck.
Jimmy Joe Meeker Ltd
The fish are beginning to nibble.
JJM
Forget the current price. Notice the volume lately?
Resemble a familiar pattern? Can you recall when?
Look for volume to spirt up on occasion. Same thing happened with the GE deal months before it was announced.
The price is being pushed down. It may go lower. Good opportunity to get more shares if one chooses to do so.
Just my opinion.
Oh did I also say something seems to be coming and it will.
Must be slipping.
Longs hang on.
Jimmy Joe
Taton listen to Bob Barker. Get your animal spade or neutered.
Mr. Kibbles never wore a cat condom.
I disagree with your animal theory. Just get the technology recognized by the public eye. Just get it out there.
Jimmy
Yes largest deficit in history. We have not been mugged.
We been raped.
JJ
For a second there Captain I thought her sign said
something else.
Hmmmmmm........ what was I thinking? (big laugh)
Jimmy Joe Meeker
Nice volume yesterday. What did I post last week?
Looking for a push down in price on heavy volume.
It may have started yesterday.
My target is a price above the previous high of $1.56.
JJM
This is not an engineering project where the fixes are quick problem solving and fabrications to fix those problems.
Resources are limited here are far as people and materials go.
Problem solving in this sector is often times difficult if not down right impossible. Changes occur frequently and are often time consuming and sometimes surprising in both outcome and time.
The one given with Cytogenix is that their synDNA IS for real. (Say it aint so Arny)
As for the rest of the story I guess it is a wait and see.
There has been no news of significance for a few months. No a whole lot of time when working in this field.
Still patient. Those who are not....well you know my stance.
Just do it.
JJM
Paul "hope so" is doing the right thing for him/her. If they think it takes nerve to put a plan like that out and if they feel management is not doing enough then he/she is doing the right thing by selling their position and moving on.
But by all means do not sell out little by little. Just sell.
Thanks in advance.
JJ
If ya cant stand the heat get out the kitchen.
Sell is my best advice to one who spends 24/7 on all and any
nagative aspects to what MAY be going on although they admit to having no CLUE. Clueless!
Just SELL.
Complainer.
Jimmy (big smile)
One of the seven sins Arny or is it Ilene?..... ENVY!
JJ
I posted that on December 8, 2005. As I recall Arny you were still bringing the David Lane thing up at that time. Everybody was frustrated with the company's progress as some
still are now. If you are that disenchanted JUST SELL and MOAN ON some other board.
And no I never did find out who GDEPC is however I trust their vision much more than your vision. Your agenda reeks Arny.
GE HEALTHCARE PR comes out December 27th 2005.
Notice the dates Arny or is it Ilene? I posted that well before the GE HEALTHCARE PR.
BUT that is not what got me so excited. Springtime got me excited. Aldevron got me excited. You figure out the rest boys and girls.
I did not expect Hogger to set me up with a pair of sleuths
such as yourselves. He did not dissappoint me much. Kind of expected it.
Tat or Arny or anyone else who still thinks things will never amount to a hill of beans please sell and move on. This management is so bad yet you all persist. You have no clue would be my bet. Absolutely NONE!
Jimmy Joe