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Thanks for posting that Soaps. Boy, Eric sure knows how to write and he really knows how to get his digs in without throwing obvious roundhouses at the letter writer. He did though duck the question of reporting what implementation phase we are in.
Don't get we wrong though, I am very happy with how he handles this company. Just impatient for some pps appreciation. He does mention that shorts and longs have profited if they flipped now and then. But those long term shareholders are still mostly red or barely even.
I like the long term potential of this company. Its just; I am not getting any younger and the wife is ready to file for the fifth time: divorce papers.
C'mon Eric, give me a little love dude.
Man the towers and pass out the guns. Get ready to electrify the fence. If anyone in there starts to sell, shoot em' or turn on the electricity.
Hurry.
I gotta feel if Eeso cools off and we start to move, then that volume will shift over here. I am sure those over there know about us.
C'mon over.
Thanks for your responses, but are Enzymes safe for the envrionment? I got the impression from Eric's memo, that they were not.
Can I change the subject for a bit? I would like someone who is knowedgeable about ingredients in Winning Colors as opposed to the ingredients in Eesos' product.
Someone posted an Eric memo that went over how safe our product was as opposed to others on the market. He mentioned that other products have phosphates and enzymes among other ingredients. It seems our competitor, that is moving upwards with massive volume, main ingredient is an enzyme or enzymes.
Question, are enzymes harmful to the envrionment? If so, then why are they considered green?
I am not a chemist, although I am a child of the 60's (I am 60), and did partake in various chemicals, I am ignorant on these matters.
Fillinggoooooodddd, your post makes some sense, but I disagree with it strategically. I would think that Eric would want a NA brand before that magazine is seen by its fans. I live in San Diego and when I go to the website and plug in my zip code, I get an Ace hardware 80 some miles away. I don't think most people will want to drive more than a few miles to try a new product.
I think we have an NA account, but I don't think it's HD, Lowes or Walmart. Someone suggested here yesterday that it might be Napa or Pepboys. That makes more sense in that they are car oriented.
It's precisely the "April miss" that has me worried. Eric stated that he would let us know if we didn't get the NA account. But he also said he would not tell us if we did or if we are still under negociations.
If we had a major account, I could understand why they would not want it published early, but now it makes no sense. The race starts in two weeks. If we have the account, they need to get stock ordered and shelves cleared for the new product. Apparently that hasn't happend yet. At least in the stores everyone here thinks we are going to get.
That other stock has over 45 million shares traded today and they have nowhere near the product and distribution that we have. And they only have double the shares out that we do.
I would expect that those who know, would leak to others. Those that know early would be buying. I would like to think we live in a very moral and honest society, but I know that is not presently the case.
I consider myself to be honest (I left out the moral part), but if I learned from a insider source, that a new product was hitting a major store, I would be looking to buy that stock. Wouldn't be right or legal, but I would be hard pressed not to.
Which is why I think we do not have a major account yet. It would be too hard to keep that news silent. Someone, a buyer maybe, would tell a friend or a relative and then it would be off to the races.
I hope I am very wrong here.
I hate to jump on the negative band wagon here, but it is what it is. It seems to me, if we were getting a big NA account, we would be seeing at large increase in volume. We aren't, so it leads me to belive that we did not land a major NA account, yet.
We probably have some smaller name, I hope. But if we have a smaller name, why then can't we put out a PR and name them?
Very confusing and very frustrating.
If we don't have a major NA account when that add hits, the pps is going to take a big hit.
I am fully in, so if it goes lower, I can't buy more.
I dunno if their attempts are pathetic, but they seem to be working. Lots of sells today.
Oh well, I made my bed, guess I have to lie in it.
Thank goodness my wife is gooood looking!
Boy oh boy, I hope we are not gonna be disappointed and not get a major NA. Should be on the ordering lists for Home Depot and apparently it is not, yet.
I wonder if the web sit locator is just for stores that are already in the U.S., like Hacketts.
Not bashing, I just bought 903000 yesterday and today at .0055. Just worried.
Oh woe is me, what have I done?
If they are still dumping, well I am sitting there at .0055. Come and get me, I am all yours.
I just took a shower and I am now using deodorant and I won't put on the clothes I have worn for the last few days.
So what's the problem?
Ok, that's me at .0055. I want it at that figure please. Then it will be okay for it to go to the moon. Or otherwise I will go wee wee.
Beboo, Google tax free accounts. Read up on Roth IRA's. It's not that they are income tax free or even tax deferred. It's whether we should even be considering, that we have to pay taxes on money, that has already been taxed.
With apologies to Rick the Lime...
I looked for it beneath the hoses.
My wife said "how about the roses"?
How do we find our Winning Brand,
I know it must be in the land.
Could it be right under our noses?
Some looked here, and others searched there.
For myself, I just wondered where?
They say it works, just like magic
not to have some, would be tragic.
Hear it evens cleans your underwear.
Two bottles are more then you need
But do so, if you feel the greed.
If you d, the stock might rocket,
and that's cash in your pocket.
Then it's drugs, women and mead.
But not in that order.
Tibruon, if you are trying to make a living as a poet, pray that your WNBD hits $1.00.
Maybe you could get Jesssseeee Jackson to tutor you?
Haryley has a point but I look at it a different way. Most people who hold lots of shares will be too tempted to sell when or if we hit around .10. There the stock may slow or back track and those people will probably sell. Then the stock may take off again but those that sold will sit on the sidelines hoping it will come back. When it doesn't, then they will chase. They will buy high, then sell when it retraces and so on.
The best bet, if you think this company is the real deal, is to turn the computer off and don't look until the end of the year. If they are successful, then YIPPEEE!
Of course, I won't be able to do that and I will probably be one of those that sell too early.
Someone knock me out and put me into a coma for a long while.
Pug and Winkles. Hahahahahahahaha
Tiny sells and buys going through. Looks like the MM's and Slappers are having a battle. HA hahahaha.
To anyone who is visiting any ESSO boards. Are they talking up WNBD anywhere? I know Auto is, but are anymore people doing that? Would be nice to know if they are. People who just made some nice money, usually want to make more. Where else but another "greenie" like us.
Oh, you mean they or I left a 0 off. That explains it. Thanks for your reply. I thought it might have something to do with naked shorting.
Millions to billions; what's an extra zero anyway?
Moderators, this is a WNBD topic although it may not seem like it. I am asking you not to delete, as I am trying to understand something. It may apply to WNBD.
Rocket, I am asking you because I think you are the most knowledgeble here. Question, how does ESSO trade over 90mil shares today when their O/S us only around 2.5 mil.? I get my figures from Yahoo and Scottrade.
Their new agreement doesn't sound that much better then when we signed ORGIL. Yet we have millions of O/S, have a much better plan and future in my opinion and yet we only trade around a few million daily.
Buiz, I think you might have missed the fork in road along the way.
It's okay though, as my wife doesn't understand me either.
Btw, have you ever heard of a place called "AREA 51" in New Mexico? The rumor is they found little space aliens there, whose spacecraft crashed. Super secret. I found out about it on the internet. Gospel. Maybe their spacecraft needs some stains removed?
PS
As a full disclosure, I own a little over 1,000,000 shares. Not much. But I am a long. Last buy was at .008. What a dummy. Should have waited.
Oh yeah, and another thing. People here have said that officers are missing from the web page. And if you look the web page has changed.
Don't tell me this isn't a conspiracy. Probably a pump and dump scheme.
Hmmm, this is getting varrry interesting. First Rocket goes on about two bottles a day that's not happening (I think, but hope he is right). And then I and others here get deleted or erased for absolutely no reason under the sun. And now I find that Eric is not even HUMAN. Yikes!!! What have I gotten myself into here.
We are not going to be on the makeover show. No sirree. We are apparently gonna be on reruns of the Twilight Zone.
And the shark is out there hovering this very minute.
I hear an 86 coming.
Mustang, I agree with your assesments and with Rockets' belief that I think he stated recently of WNBD doing 2,500,000 in revenues.
If that is the case, then why do you think we have not been notified, that we are in Phase II?
If we are, and Eric would put out a PR indicating we are, then the pps should start to increase.
I wish he would clarify.
Man, what with all of the people on this board alone buying the product, we should be WAY over 1,000,000 in sales.
And I haven't even bought any yet.
What's up with that?
Extra, stop please, you're killing me. I can't stop laughing at the way you inform us, er bash, er write.
No really, you've got talent. I love the way you put things together with commas and brackets etc. Like the following:
<It's All documented Facts. Just check the price+volume
charting data, that even iHub provides for free, right here.
extra , Sincerely .> HA ha ha ha ha ha. That's hilarious.
There was a guy or girl on the PTSC board for a while (sunshineforyou, or something like that). He (she) was as funny as you. You both should do stand up comedy; or write for someone else.
But not Saturday nite live. That show isn't funny, just stupid slapstick. No, not for you two. You guys actually have talent.
I look forward to each an every one of your posts. You're a gas, dude.
I guess we are in a show this weekend. I expect some pr from that show and for momo to start picking up as we near Feb.
Too many people are aware of the Nascar deal and have probably waited on the sidelines for a pr. But with the date fast approaching, they may not want to wait much longer.
Although I wish I had waited a little longer. Bought back in at .008.
Yeah, forgot about that, thanks for reminding me.
Kinda scary, lotta competition. Maybe the real reason Eric does not want financials out, is he doesn't want us to be bought out or taken over, while we are this cheap. Keep us off the acquisition or take over radar until we start getting some real numbers.
PFSD was interesting until I saw that it was trading at zero shares today. Hard to believe, what with all the products they are supposedly selling.
I guess we were all hoping that a NA would be named there, but as Tiburon has observed, it is probably better that it is not. If we get more then one, they would want to be added and since it is static, they wouldn't be able too.
Good foresight by Eric. The only problem is, is that investors won't see an NA named if they preview the ad. And we need new blood to get the pps going.
Now if only we can get that NA named before we sink further.
Except we are not selling two bottles a day. If we were, what with all of the stores we have in Canada and here in the U.S., we would be WAY over 1,000,000 in sales. Eric was supposed to have told us at the end of 2008 that we were nearing, or at the end of the implementation stage. He didn't, so it leads me to believe that we are not selling anywhere close to that figure.
I think you do a disservice by continually posting those "two bottles a day' sales figures.
I wish you were right, but no announcement and back to Reagans', "trust but verify".
Show we the proof, er money or figures. Not hypothesis.
I agree with Rocket. The pps will move with the first NA; but it will really move, if Eric can follow with another one in short order. Get the momo going and it's off to the races. Pun intended.
Who is doing that? Spending 50 or so dollars to make the pps look good for a few seconds is really dumb.
Like slapping the ask at the end of the day. It hasn't worked in the past and won't work now.
It only makes you and some others feel good for a short period of time and them WHAMO! down again.
Save it for when news comes out and then hit the ask. That will drive the pps.
I can't believe you didn't include me. Why, I am one of the most liked persons here. Just as Soap or Rocketman.
Down goes Frazure, down goes Frazure. Down goes Frazure.
Oh wait a minute, I own this stock.
GET UP YOU BUM!
Another intersting thing happened. I put in a bid to buy 312000 on Scottrade and it took 250000 as a sell. I then put a bid in at Schwab, where I have another account, for 122000 and it took that before filling the rest from my Scot account.
Weird.
Feels like we are going lower, but, whoops, just filled my last 66000; but as I was saying, but, I don't want to chase this thing if and when the NA is announced.
Hate to think Extra is right here, but we are probably going to .007 or lower if we don't get some news soon.
Interesting, I just bought 250000, but it lists as a sell. Huh?
Since we are a "Green product company", I wonder if Eric is waiting til Jan. 20 or after to announce the NA. If we got the NA? Since President elect Obama, has stated that he wants to be a Green president, it might follow that his acceptance speech might contain "Green comments". If so, that might be Erics' plan to "surge" with Green news, on or after that date.
It is disturbing though, that he has not followed up on his statement, that he would let us know by the end of 2008, that we have completed the implementation phase.
I know that sounds negative to some here. But, I didn't punch that doggie: he did.