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I was the big loser here! Mark can leave me off the list if he grades on a curve. lol
I can't believe the market only values SUNworks at .10
I knew there was some value built in on the news of the acquisition, but to close @ .12 really supries me.
That's what I'm counting on. New investors coming in for SUNworks.
AGREE!!!
Nistel I agree 100% that the market doesn't always work that way. Just my opinion of SUNworks valuation in short term without the SLTD product factored in.
You said: "If this product is real, working and price-competitive, it will be a no-brainer that the gains will be huge..."
I'm not giving SLTD more than .05 value because at this point there is no product to value. I look forward next to two key developments which are earnings and a commercialization partner. Then further down the road going to market and patent approval. People buying in now will be buying in for SUNworks as much as SLTD.
One thing I have learned is valuation and s/p don't go hand in hand. lol
At this early stage I am comfortable with .30, but again what will demand be? If I could purchase a stock at .15 that I thought could go to .30 - .50 after earnings Ivwould be a big time buyer. We all have gone big on SLTD and now, while they prepare to go commercial, we get to lay expectations on SUNworks results for a change. GREAT way to pass the time!
I'll say it again...the stock will move based on interest in SUNworks NOT Solar3d at this point! What are you willing to pay for a profitable solar entity? RSOL for example, is roughly seven times SUNworks in scale, is in same line of business and does not turn a profit. Yet their s/p is $4.00 on demand. Just 1/7 of scale for SUNworks based on s/p alone puts them at near .60 and they not only have positive earnings, but also net income! SUNworks(sltd) should be valued in the .30 -.50 range minimum
Joke
joke
Ok! LOL I won't sell until it's 1250% higher, at least.
My wife's allowance for me is $20 a week so I would say YES!
I'll sell 1 share @ .0002 just for fun! Boy would I be popular. lol
Mark, that's where they should be, but it all depends on the markets hunger for SUNworks. My original numbers for my sltd value was .18 and .30 but I thought with SUNworks it would be more like .42 .54 .97. With consideration for the three day trend of sltd after the acquisition news I ended up with the figures I submitted. Not trying to be too pie in the sky, but I think the demand for SUNworks may surprise.
Just for comparison look at valuations and earnings for RSOL and SUNworks (sltd)
This is more of a gauge than a prediction. I am gauging the interest in SUNworks with the future benefits of Solar3d not factored in for more than 5¢.
Mon: open - .30 close - .42 high - .85
Tues: open - .48 close - .74 high - 1.20
Weds: open - .80 close - .68. high - .83
You can scoff at the "predictions" but I have faith in my research and comparisons.
They couldn't see the forest for the trees!
Hell NO!!!Do some research to determine the value of SUNworks! Alone it is worth as much as 1.20 and with the potential of SLTD add another .05. Now why would you reverse split, piss off your LONGs and loose market cap when you can get there organically before the bill comes due to the loan issuers. It's suicidal at this point plus they haven't issued many shares. No value...
This is no joke...I want to cry!
Solar3D Completes Acquisition of Profitable and Rapidly Growing Solar Systems Provider
SUNworks, the company’s new wholly owned subsidiary, expects to report 2013 revenue in excess of $8,500,000 and forecasts significant growth in 2014
Santa Barbara, CA – February 3, 2014— Solar3D, Inc. (OTC: SLTD), the developer of a breakthrough 3-dimensional solar cell technology to maximize the conversion of sunlight into electricity, today announced that it has acquired 100% of Solar United Networks, Inc., (SUNworks), a rapidly growing provider of solar systems, based in Roseville, California.
SUNworks, focused on the design, installation and management of solar systems for commercial customers, is one of the fastest growing solar systems providers in California. SUNworks has delivered hundreds of 2.5 kilowatt to 1-megawatt commercial systems and has the capability to deliver systems as big as 25 megawatts. SUNworks expects to report 2013 revenue in excess of $8,500,000 -- higher than originally forecast by the company. Based on the current backlog of orders, SUNworks expects significant top line and bottom line growth in 2014.
”The opportunity represented by SUNworks allows us to immediately participate in the fastest growing segment of the solar industry, while building a growing base of potential customers for our proprietary Solar3D Cell,” said Jim Nelson, CEO of Solar3D. “We are confident, based on all of our internal data and market analysis, that we will have very strong organic growth in 2014. Further, the SUNworks acquisition strengthens our management team, which will allow us to explore additional acquisitions. We intend to turn the solar systems part of our company into one of the fastest growing players in the industry.”
Nelson continued, “One of the great joys of business is working with very competent people who know how to drive a business. The SUNworks team is seasoned and proven, and will be the cornerstone of a powerful supplier of solar systems. Building this line of business will be a key mission of Solar3D.”
Emil Beitpolous, President of SUNworks, said, “Joining Solar3D allows SUNworks to move to the next level as an industry competitor. We share the strategy of connecting with the customer at the end-user level to provide high quality, affordable solar solutions. Solar3D provides the vision and partnership commitment that will help us become an even greater force in our industry.”
According to the recent U.S. Solar Market Insight report by GTM Research and SEIA, the United States is now one of the fastest growing solar markets in the world, with a solar system installed every 4 minutes. The U.S. solar market is poised to grow 30% annually, with a forecast of over 1 million solar installations by 2016. According to SEIA, the solar installations industry was valued at $11.5 billion in 2012, up from $6 billion in 2010. The fastest growing regional market for solar installation is Solar3D’s home state of California, accounting for nearly half of all U.S. solar installations.
Nelson concluded, “One of the few things on which Wall Street and the federal government agree is that solar will be the fastest growing business in the world for years to come. Solar3D has management strength and access to capital resources that will enable us to build a substantial solar systems business, while we continue to focus on the big prize — a proprietary Solar3D Cell.”
About Solar3D, Inc.
Solar3D, Inc. is developing a breakthrough 3-dimensional solar cell technology to maximize the conversion of sunlight into electricity. Up to 30% of incident sunlight is currently reflected off the surface of conventional solar cells, and more is lost inside the solar cell materials. Inspired by light management techniques used in fiber optic devices, our innovative solar cell technology utilizes a 3-dimensional design to trap sunlight inside micro-photovoltaic structures where photons bounce around until they are converted into electrons. An innovative wide-angle light collection feature on the cell surface allows for the collection of sunlight over a range of angles during the day. This next generation solar cell is designed to be dramatically more efficient, resulting in a lower cost per watt that will make solar power affordable for the world. To learn more about Solar3D, please visit our website at http://www.Solar3D.com.
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just goes to show you being a creep pays off! lol
I don't gamble on sports. I place my bets on penny stocks! (not sure which is rigged more)
Because renov8s13 is really Jim Nelson. He's going to dump all hisshares at 4 pm before he releases the PRcstating thecdeal fell through. LOL
Renov8s...what the heck did I miss? What did the original post say?
THINK ABOUT THIS!!!!!
Is it a coincidence that Jim Nelson will have this completed on the third day of the month?!?
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The article I posted was just the initial release stream. It was from November so the Jan article is probably more accurate.
That would be in SLTD's and also, in SUNworks (a subsidiary of SLTD) backyard. lol
IMO...moneytv is just the place for face time. The announcement will come out through PR's (ie. Marketwire) and it may get picked up by local media or even receive coverage on small financial media outlets. If he does moneytv it would be days after the deal closed and he would give his we're really excited about what this does for the company speech.
What he said was....by the end of January, or there about.
By Andy Colthorpe
06 Nov 2013
Solar3D to follow ‘First Solar model’ with acquisition of PV installer SUNworks
Solar3D, the start-up which is developing a three-dimensional solar cell, has signed a definitive purchase agreement for 100% of California-based solar panel installer and energy consulting corporation Solar United Networks (SUNworks).
The closing of the deal is subject to a review of SUNworks’ operational financial and corporate records. SUNworks will continue to operate as a wholly owned subsidiary of Solar3D if the deal goes through as planned. According to Solar3D, estimated pre-tax profits at SUNworks for 2013 are close to US$1 million. Revenue for 2013 is estimated at over US$7,500,000.
SUNworks is able to deliver systems of up to 25MW capacity in size, the company claims. It has worked on PV plants from 2.5kW to 1MW in size to date and categorises its work as being in the residential, commercial and agricultural markets. Solar3D plans to expand aggressively in both companies' home state of California, which accounts for nearly half of all US solar installations, and is the fastest growing regional market in the US for solar.
Solar3D reiterated its commitment to commercialising the Solar3D Cell three-dimensional photovoltaic cell. Chief executive officer Jim Nelson stated however that the new acquisition would also give Solar3D the ability “to immediately participate in the fastest growing segment of the solar industry, while building a growing base of customers for our proprietary Solar3D Cell.”
Nelson went on to say that “building this line of business will be a key mission of the new Solar3D. Through organic growth and additional acquisitions, we plan to turn the solar systems part of our company into one of the fastest growing players in the industry".
SUNworks president Emil Beitpolous said: "Joining Solar3D will allow SUNworks to expand even more aggressively. We share the strategy of connecting with the customer at the end-user level to provide high quality, affordable solar solutions".
According to Jim Nelson, Solar3D would therefore be following the example of First Solar, in linking proprietary technology to systems installations.
Now that is what I would love to see! Hell, announce the acquisition and HINT about commercialization partners or impending start up and this thing will add 50%. I think sltd would have been due to release earnings(or lack of) in February. I wonder when the "new" company will release? That will hopefully cause a bump up too.
Taking money from oil subsidies and giving to solar! LOVE IT!!!
Any chance of a hint towards more green energy money from the Obama administration duringvthe State of the Union?
Mark! Now you sound like my WIFE!!! Just keep telling yourself "it's not a scam and I deserve this" over and over in your head until you make it happen.
Kind of inline with my thoughts. This could evenballow renov8's Friday close to be accurate. Close deal on Friday 01/31, but don't release PR until Monday morning 01/03 at 0300 like they like to do.
What do I know?!?
I think for SLTD it makes sense to announce on 01/31, but as far as investors/markets and theway this stock generally runs on news it would be better to announce on 01/30 or 02/03. The stocks run will be muted by the weekend break and will probably stall compared to if it had a run of 2 to 3 days in the market. I did hear Intuit is giving away a free Superbowl commercial to a small business. Maybe we could be the lucky ducks! lol
Sharp decline between 1230-100 est? One last dip I have a feeling...
How to spend quality time with my investment.....refresh, refresh, refresh, etc.....
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Not really math, simply researched similar companies(publicly traded) whose Gross earnings were around 10 mil annually and who had around 1 mil net earnings annually. These companies across various industries ranged in value between .30 to 1.20 s/p. Just gives me a frame of reference on where it could fall. I still think the valuation will be determined by the interest in owning a piece of SUNworks.
Now with that said, I'm wondering if there could possibly be a blockbuster announcement. Could Jim possibly announce the finalization on the acquisition and ALSO announce an agreement on a pilot partner? He seemed overly confident during the last moneytv segment.
Schris, the research I had done on the value of SUNworks as a publicly traded company put it at .30 low end and 1.20 high end. So an average value would be .75. Now if SUNworks garnered the high end and you added in SLTD value before run up we could have 1.23. I guess 1.12 may not be the longest stretch. I thought by now we would have people saying 2, 3 or even 5 dollars. Can't wait to see the result!
Concern here is the number of employees and MW's installed year over year.
Well, thank you for that. Can't pass up an opportunity! Plus I think we had a hand by pushing this too far too fast. (needed a dip)
Just standing my ground and setting the record straight. Those "scared" need to hear support in opposition of the flippers.