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I do not have inbox reply privileges, so anyone who has inboxed me but would like a reply can instead send to teq0907@gmail.com
I do have another stock that I would pass on to anyone who uses that email but don't like spamming so am just including this note since JB once asked on this board if anyone had something as hot as NXT's potential to let him know.
Re:I wouldn't be surprised if military applications were just around the corner.
That corner will probably be years in rounding, judging from how long it takes industry to take up this science. fwiw, the military is bureaucracy and politics.
dms This company needs to make public any news they have, and would be unfair to shareholders who are selling paper because they are wondering if anything will happen.
nas re : No conspiracy just many who are ill informed about...
Westeffer and my point is this board is not interested in your UTube and conspiracy topics, which have nothing to do with investing in Natcore. We invest because we take the risk that the company will be successful, and do not care what politicians are for or against as long as there is a market for NXT's products. That market exists today and that is all that matters.
Why don't you post on the UTube site instead of dragging that issue over here, wasting our time?
Dmssin - I don't see any reason why they would bundle news. They will put it out as soon as it is material.
nas re: "Nevermind the DOE,they're controlled by the OIL Lobbyists SOLYNDRA debacle will soon prove to have been orchestrated to DESTROY SOLAR or at least slow it down."
This kind of post should not be put on the Natcore investing board, and I will not even bother describing how I feel about your Solyndra theory. It is conspiracy theory not useful for investing.
Video working again. Yes thanks Pcak, but to save anyone else the time of looking at it, it is exactly the same as the article underneath it.
Video is not working, at least not now.
Re new lab comment - Provini
Buddy Green The lab is already open and we have been working in the clean room. We have turned off the clean room just recently to add some new equipment (2 hoods, 2 furnaces, screen printing machine, etc.) The clean room portion will reopen the end of the month.
I haven't followed the NXT thread for the 2002 filing issued in 2011, but that is not possible to delay the examination that long. No matter how long it is delayed, the expiry clock ticks from the earliest date of the provisional filing (Dec 2010 in my case or the patent was filed (looks like 2002 per your note but that may be a provisional.)
I am not an expert but believe examination takes place within 1 year of patent filing and you can pay a penalty to push it back one more year. That is the end of the delays though. You can pay extra to speed it up too, but NXT wouldn't do that and tip their competitors off while they could be doing their own research on it and perhaps improving and adding a new patent.
My friend's patent is a scientific thing that the leading manufacturer was testing recently. Either he steals it from us small fry, perhaps by enhancing it enough with some improvement after claiming it doesn't work or he will buy us out. It seems to work bssed on our own testing and after showing it to 2 sceptics who changed their tune, but even testing it to the nth degree to see if it really does what it seems to do is past our resources, so we showed it to him to see if he would buy it. It is top secret until we can find if he or his competitors will buy it, although since our testing resources are so tiny it is a secret only so the big mfgr. can use the time to improve it and get it to market this summer ahead of his competitors. Not that the competitors would have any claim on it, but a full blown launch of a game changing product is even stronger when the competitors don't have an inkling of what is coming.
I don't think I am adding more to NXT by discussing this thing any more,however science will have to be rewritten in this area whether it does or doesn't work nicely enough for people to buy it, because we have already made something physically happen that the schools say could not happen.
nash ". Maybe the patents keep updating themselves so the lifespan would start with the the most recent...part of the layering."
Patents don't update themselves. A patent is a monopoly right the country gives you in exchange for divulging your secrets so others can use them after the patent expires.
I am actually paying for a US patent (application) within 10 days which started out as a provisional patent a year ago. Most patent ideas that need some r&d time to discover more about the science do a provisional first so they get a year to test and finesse their idea. The patent application does not get reviewed for a while either so it is just like the provisional (patent pending) however it holds the patent holder's place in line in case someone else comes along and tries to patent it.
Gold - TD margin call post -- You have no idea if anyone got a margin call so should not be making advice to yourself or others based on such a wild fantasy idea. As I posted before, all Waterhouse trades I ever made go through the Alpha exchange because it is free, but they never show up in anything like Yahoo Finance, etc.
They don't even show up in Waterhouse when I check the volume for the day, so with all the non-reporting of volumes not even in anyone's sights, it is just a fantasy that you think each trade that actually shows up has some deep stand alone meaning.
vankent. Those $/40 warrants are good for 2.5 more years, so are unlikely to be exercised unless someone wants to cash out and be gone. With all the potential upside, holders will probably hang in there.
Usually the sp has to be far above the warrant price for someone to exercise early on a 2.5 year warrant, or at least that is what I waited for with my $.75 warrants which expired unexercised because I waited too long. Instead of exercising and selling at $1.50, I thought it would go much higher.
Natscore: Space seems like a tiny market compared to earth markets and NXT has limited resources.
rkt9 Looks like you were not spamming. I clicked on the bottom link and their site said they were geothermal but the top one makes your point that NXT may be able to work with this company. Who knows?
In response to an inbox question I received, I can't reply privately since I don't pay for that service. "you were talking about AON, if one puts in a limit order for a stock, and it doesn't all fill, but you placed it good till cancelled, if it fills over a period of a few days, do you just pay the one commission?"
The answer is if you put in AON, it either fills all at one time or it doesn't fill any, same as being pregnant it is not a partial thing. Like I said, most traders can't even find AON, although my full service broker got that service a few years ago. If you just put in a regular order for 10,000 good for 30 days and it takes ten trade days to fill, you pay 10 commissions, which is better than getting no fills on those days.
rkt9 Looks like you are spamming your geothermal company while asking some unrelated NXT questions.
Dontplayer re: AON
I reread your post and can't understand what you are talking about "losing a thousand dollars." AON means fixed volume but when you are talking about losing a thousand $ you seem to be talking about using a market order which doesn't have a fixed price.
I always go for fixed price, but best efforts on the volume, so if only 1,000 shares of my 4,000 share order gets filled that day it costs me commission that day and whatever extra days it takes to get the order filled.
FWIW, I never put in AON.
$7 commission is a small part of the total cost of the investment, but with AON you can lose a purchase while waiting for someone to find yours. AON don't even show up in discount broker screens, and only appear when another order is taken for fill.
$7 / $2,000 is 1/3 of 1%, virtually nothing. If you miss getting 2,000 shares of NXT that goes up even $.01 that is $33 of lost profit.
Investment planning for reality is always more satisfying than fantasy, because you get less unpleasant surprises to deal with later.
Natcore didn't get a grant. They would have to press release it immediately if they got one so it is pointless to go searching for a secret grant, just because other companies in NJ got a grant. Right period.
Kungfu: It is irrelevant how badly you want information. Information can not be manufactured, so you have to be patient or sell.
They do not have a contract to put the technology into production at this point so like most tech stories, nothing has happened and investor dreams start to disappear. That does not mean something can't happen tomorrow, but no one can do anything today to resolve your fears. No amount of wishing or complaining can speed up the process.
It doesn't always give the correct volume in Canada on the Venture either because there are different trading systems on that exchange. Perhaps that is the case for the NTCXF too, different systems that do not communicate properly. In fact, I needed some money one day so sold an illiquid stock from one account in TD (Ameritrade) to another account also with TD that had cash. I got a phone call from the regulator for TD Waterhouse (Ameritrade) who said both he and the Venture regulators had me flagged for a potential inflated volume trade.
I told him that was a real joke, since the trade didn't show up on any reporting systems like Yahoo, Stockwatch etc. I was not even sure TD processed it until the next day, because even TD who processed the trade did not show my trade volume. I asked him who he thought I was fooling with my "fake" trade, since no one but regulators could even find it!
It is best to focus on the stock and not worry about exchange statistics. Either NXT creates value or it dies, and statistics are useless in either case.
Re:Thanks for posting that article Dom.
How do you know they will really be able to produce it in 2012? Not that I know anything about it, but lots of news article reporters don't know the tech they are reporting and make mistakes.
Nas Re: Isn't that great, I guess that's the only way to keep OIL above $100 is to cap the source.
No.
The US is an importer of oil so does not want high prices. High oil prices cause recessions. The reason solar and other alternative energies are presently subsidized is to encourage business to use them so someone like a Natcore can possibly find a cheap alternative to oil. Alternatives to oil will drive the price of oil down.
One CNN article yesterday said the US could be planning to bomb out Iran's oil facilities to starve them into giving up nuclear. Some of the nuclear facilities have human shields because they are located under cities and it might take a long war to get them all.
The lost oil energy has to come from somewhere if they bomb the easy targets.
Something that will affect NXT a lot more than First Solar's firing their president would be a takeout of Iran's nuclear facilities.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/05/world/meast/iran-iaea/index.html?iref=allsearch
"However, some officials say privately the U.S. military and intelligence community is growing increasingly concerned that Israel could be preparing such a strike and are monitoring both Israel and Iran closely."
There are so many awards given for so many things, that no one has time to keep track of them. Interest in this kind of thing usually justs drifts away after a day or so of exposure, although your idea that CNN or the like could pick up on it and run a story sometime might happen.
I wouldn't put much hope in that happening though. I have a "Top 10 Canadian Tech growth stocks" picked by one of the biggest Canadian accounting firms but it still trades for pennies and the price never even bounced on the day they were picked.
Platinum sponsor paid more money for a fancier booth It certainly has nothing to do with the quality of the companies showcased to be of different grades of metals, otherwise why would you go if you were in a tarnished class?
rkt
You can spend your entire day trying to link up solar companies good and bad moments to NXT but it is a waste of time so I don't care what happened to them. Following your thinking in your last post, why not post what happened in the last week to the other 273 solar companies that JB emailed to, instead of fixating on First Solar?
The reality is only NXT management having success with their commercialization can have any effect on the share price. Believe it or not, but I was not being derisive so stop making that comment please, just because I am focusing on the only reality that exists.
TD (parent of Waterhouse) has bought US banks so I am surprised they would not have that service in the US.
Are you US residents able to buy it on the Venture exchange in Canada? I am in Canada and when I buy a stock like this I have the option to place my order on your US exchange(s) but never do, since the Pink sheets are flaky with market makers. It is .62 - .66 $Cdn on the Venture right now.
I use TD Waterhouse for a Canadian trade, but they place my trades on the Alpha exchange, whatever that is. On Alpha, even Waterhouse could't see my bid even if I place it with them. If I had one in currently at $.63 Waterhouse quote would still be $.62 bid, so the true bid ask is not available to all.
Re: if the people who sold there shares of FSLR decide to invest in NTCXF
Stick to reality. NXT will be a successful investment only if it is successful in its own r&d. There is no big force out there that will rescue or hurt this company, other than our management's efforts. That is all anyone who invests in NXT cares about, so dreaming that others will migrate here from other losses is as wild as dreaming that they will leave here disenchanted with the overall market. You can dream up those scenarios all day long but they have a faulty premise, just like whatever you base a trip to Vegas on.
NXT has nothing to do with First Solar's market cap changing just like it has nothing to do with Ford or Apple investors.
First Solar is nothing of interest to NXT board.
When you only have r&d personnel, I don't think there is any question about whether you will change your business focus and go into the thin film manufacturing.
re:Transition from r&d to manufacturer.
NXT will not become a manufacturer. They don't have any people or experience for that. Even the AR box will be outsourced.
This is a company that will mainly get royalties and some passive partnership incomes from MX. I am doubting there will be many more MX type deals either, once the products catch on. It is much simpler to take a bigger royalty than to get involved in all the operating and capital of a manufacturing plant.
These jv's are always cumbersoome to administer. I spent my life in joint venture auditing, and have seen lots of lawsuits over interpretation of partnership clauses, such as who pays for certain types of capital or opex or perhaps a new revenue stream that was not envisioned when the agreement was made.
There are often cash calls to argue over when the participants have to put new capital into expanding or perhaps redesigning the plant and questions over who benefits most versus the spirit of the original agreement.
AR-Box will also develop non-solar applications.
That would be something. I didn't realize that so much rides on this box. A year or so ago in a video, Provini talked about something momentous soon to be announced, perhaps as exotic as an artificial retina (human I guessed.)
I wonder where that project and the X-ray clothing et al are now.
JB replying.
Scarpa told me something to the tune of my second comment, but that was a while ago and I understand little about NXT. There is no salvage value for the furnaces so only operating cost savings to consider, so the manufacturers have been unwilling to take the risk so far.
Once one company buys one and proves they can run their plant at normal speed, everyone else will too.
The only reason the AR box had to be built by NXT is that no solar plant would take the risk of slowing down their plant in the testing process, which has proven to take some time. To NXT's bonus benefit (if and only if it works commercially), we got an extra patent from discoveries made while making the AR box.
Yep, thanks JB, that is the correct interpretation.
Too bad they didn't underline it in the nr, because then I would have interpreted it differently, lol. Or at least I would have gotten it if Flood's "Wall of Death" comment was part of the nr right after the underline.
It is crazy for anyone to sell now. I have 210k with my warrants, and was feeling a bit overexposed, but considering your revenue forecast right after the MX nr, I am thinking like you that almost nowhere else do you get all NXT's growth upside with this somewhat low level of risk.
From the last nr "Additionally, Natcore and MX Holding intend to participate, together with third-party investors, in the ownership of a solar cell manufacturing facility that will produce and sell high-efficiency solar cells based on the technologies developed by the R&D joint venture."
I never knew much about solar and still don't so am confused by comments that the MX deal gets us past the Valley of Death. Isn't the above production based on success with the above r&d? Or is the production going to happen anyway using NXT's existing technologies even if the MX research does not work out?