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Thanks for info. I am at work and only able to check in from time to time. Bought what I could this morning with available funds. A small start, but a start anyway.
Question for anyone here - was this a different company when it was $4?
Blue, freebee here so can't pm you - but any idea why the volume has stopped now? Anything else you can say publicly?
I alway said his accent was fake and I still wonder who he is, still I miss his funny posts. Do you have a guess as to who he is here?
I am surprised that Web isn't here now that his Spartans are making such a big hit in theaters! Is this going to help his poor spartans here at BKMP?????
thank goodness for that little slap of paint! close at 4.
I think you meant troglodyt - a trilobite is a bug like sea creature, the other is a caveman.
I don't believe there will be ANY converting. I am tempted to try to convert one billion for the $150. just to try it out. Don't think there is a system in place to actually do it.
Strong, you are asst. mod here - clean up this board- talk about off topic. I thought you guys were going to try to keep the board looking better.
Really? That is it for the PR? How does this move BKMP?
15 mins to open.....Is this the big day?
oh, yeah, March 7th - forcast months ago by webprods.
At the time the divvy was announced I just assumed that Sandy had a plan that would make the numbers make sense. But then nothing followed on, so I guess he realized he screwed up. I now assume that he made the conversion deal so bad to get rid of the stupid divvy issue without admitting a mistake. But, oops, some here think they will convert to protect their investment! Most will say they won't convert - then at the last minute they will think if no one else converts and they do, then they will have a "bigger share" of the company and the other suckers will get diluted! Will any of you really send you money to the "T/A" to get "restricted shares" of a company that has nothing new to back up the additional shares? Do you know how hard it is to convert restricted to tradeable? That the company has to agree to it and cooperate in the process? Anyone here have restricted shares that ever became tradeable? I sure have some useless certs for cos. that didn't even still exist by the time the "one year" restriction was over. Sandy must be reading this board and laughing his fat a$$ off!!!!!!!
Attention chartists, today's action must have fluffed up the chart picture. What do you say?
GOING FOR A BILLION!!!
4/5! let's close at 5!!!!!
three-forths of a billion!
Your group ready to buy into the close? We need to see a 4/5 close today, and a billion!
40 million more just went through. Move to .0005 already!
We passed half-a-billion.
So how come mannyman is so down about this, predicting .0002? Trying to spoil the party?
Web, is this real or did you photoshop it together? This should be HUGE and should bring BKMP along with it - how can TFN NOT be in the US???? I have had patience and now I am becoming a PATIENT because of the stress with this stock. Tell me that things are about to POP!!!!
OT: centimeters are cm. - cc stands for cubic centimeters, medicine is measured in cc s, and I need some serious medicine to get throught this BKMP mess.
The preferred to common does not use the same ratio - it was 1 billion for 1 million, that is: 10,000 for 1, and then 1 for 1,000. So ther could be potentially 136 billion more shares if everyone converted. In fact, Sandy said he sent out 176 trillion as requested by the TA, so that would give 176 billion more shares. that is why the whole thing is stupid and should be put to rest by SANDY!!!!!
This is what I was talking about when it comes to unrestricting shares. It doesn't just happen automatically, or right away if ever. Did anyone plan to get a lawyer to help them unrestrict, then contact TA...blah blah blah. Restricted shares are a scam in my opinion unless the company is really well-established and then why would they sell you restricted anyway.
Tina, are you quitting as mod or did you also sell you BKMP position? Giving up on this stock completely?
Web, you don't sound like a Spartan any more. You also don't sound like an Eastern-European. Tell us someday who you really are and what you really know - and when and how will BKMP make it to a penny so I can have freedom. What do you say - the 300 is about to come out, so is it time yet??????
I saw it on one of the network channels over the weekend - what does it have to do with TFN except for WEBPRODs hints? Any theories?
Get over yourself, Neal, I never said anything about speaking for every investor. They can all buy the restricted for all I care, because I am SURE, from other ventures I have been in, that the restricted will NEVER become free-trading - NEVER! Do you know how complicated it is to register them and then try to sell them? Do you think that Sandy will ever make that happen, since he is the one who would have to follow up to un-restrict them? Spend you considerable energy leaning on Sandy to straighten out his business and get off my case!
Neal, I don't dispute that if you buy more shares when more are flooding the market you can maintain the same percentage ownership of the total. My problem is that you are not getting them from the company to protect longs from dilution. You are BUYING them, putting more money into the company, raising your cost basis. This is no gift or reward, just a sales pitch to sell more shares. Everyone needs to REFUSE to buy restricted. If you want a bigger percent of the company just buy free-trading right now.
This has gotten so crazy! I don't see the divvy as a conversion, it is just a sale of restricted stock at a slightly lower price than the current free-trading shares. So anyone planning to convert when the price soars to .0015 in April would obviously just buy free trading right now and then sell for that big 5 bagger in April. Who is BSing whom here!!!!!???????
Is anyone willing to venture $150.00 to test the conversion process and call Sandy's bluff? Bet the TA WOULD BE UNABLE TO PROCESS THE REQUEST! Sandy tried to create a short squeeze, it didn't work and now he won't come clean and admit the divvy was a mistake. Are we going to have to wait until April for a pr that says no one converted so the o/s is unchanged? BTW, if all the 176 trillion divvy shares were converted, it would cost 26 million dollars. DUH!
, High Gear, that is what we have been worried about all this time. I just hope that Sandy fixes this foolishness with a PR first thing Tuesday morning so we can start to regain some credibility.
So Web, are you saying that Sandy can get US carriage but only for paying a very high fee, so he needs money and doesn't have it. So in a last ditch effort he is trying this divvy/sell restricted shares to get the longs excited to put in more money to protect their holdings from dilution by DILUTING us if we dont buy the restricted?
Web, you sound cranky for a weekend. You were so pumped about the preferreds a few weeks ago, said the common had to drop to the .0001-.0002 so the pref. could be valuable, we were going to be Spartans and gain our economic freedom from the divvy....Now, you are down on the divvy and down on Sandy. Do you communicate with him?
Your cost basis also goes up - and only to have restricted shares. No different than selling restricted shares if there never was a divvy. Who would want them - not a good deal.Do you think the TA would actually complete a transaction if someone sent the $150 to test this conversion deal?
Sorry, Seabee, didn't mean to sound like that - the pr was misleading by saying 1 billion to 1 million for $150. and then giving an example of 10 billion being converted (for $1500.). Anyway, I was just saying that it comes out as dilution however you look at it because there are already at least 13 billion shares. That is why I want to prefs. to go away. Selling restricted shares to raise more capital is not a good idea, and they aren't a rewarrd or a divvy when we have to buy them.
Neal, help these guys out with the math and get in touch with Sandy to explain how big hundreds of billions is!!! Please!!!!
Not really a smaller float, because it is a billion to a million of the 10,000 for one original divvy. Combine all the existing common with the potential new restricted, and if they ever became trading shares the outstanding would be too astronomical even for Nealgalt! NO, NO, NO, get rid fo the preferred so this can hope to become a legitimate company!!!!!!!
high gear: I applaud your effort to communicate with Sandy. I want answers too. My thinking is that the original pref. shares were not based on anything - not on BKMP and not on one of the other ventures such as the wagering network or the clothing line. So those shares were not recognized by the brokerages and were returned to us. They also were an unreasonable number even for a big, established company. Too many shares based on nothing. Now if Sandy is moving them over to BKMP, they dilute the 20% of TFN that BKMP is supposed to be based on, and no new business center or new venture has been set up to justify that. We are already based on the prospect of US and international carriage, and our money has supported TFN thus far, even though Sandy and Mike are the private owners. So what you think Sandy is telling you makes no sense, and current shareholders cannot put money into restricted shares to fund more of Sandy's business. He must make good on carriage in the US immediately and if he can't then we are sunk. What does he want to 20million for? I just don't think the current shareholders are going to buy this story.