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Doesn't make me wrong
What product?
What does it do?
What problem does it solve?
What demand?
Can it be made cheaply?
Has there been a prototype?
We've got no info besides a sorority girl saying she and her friends are totally, super excited about something.
Whoa.
This is like a bad application to work as a counselor in training at a summer day camp.
"I once had an internship so I'm qualified to be CEO"
"I have an instagram account with party pics therefore I'm, like, super qualified"
"My ski lift operator friend likes to get baked everyday, which makes us experts in the cannabis industry"
I'm grabbing some profits and getting out.
The recent spike in the price of Bitcoin probably
Lots of positivity here today.
How high do you all see SING going?
.25?
.50?
1.00?
Higher?
Thanks!
If it goes below .011 I'm definitely in for more.
Hitting a $1 would be awesome.
Anyone see it going higher than that?
How low does this go before rebounding?
What are people's realistic expectations for a AGTK stock price? Let's say a year from now.
Are you hoping for .05?
.10? $1? $10
if you're going to address me directly I am not going to be rude, I'm going to respond. I thought you had said all you were going to say on the matter?
what sp appreciation? The momentary blip to .11? it was nice. Now we're back at .09.
At this point you've called management for me so what am I going to learn? And speaking of cutting and pasting -- you and the "calling management". Enough. Get a new complaint of me already.
What I don't understand is why so much animosity towards me? Aren't we allowed to post disagreeing ideas or concerns?
Do all posts have to be hard data in the form of scientific articles expounding on Q-dots. DD is not always hard data about conversion rates and printing capacity. DD can also be "soft" data-- asking questions like Why and When? Looking for the whole story. I asked on this board because that's what I thought this board was for. For people to ask questions of each other, share information to help each other get the whole story. Based on the responses I've received, this board is to actually elaborate on how great q-dots are and speculate on how many yachts were all going to own.
If you look back at the start of this firestorm I simply made a comment. In the end, that's all it was, a comment. And now I'm made out to be some short-selling, lazy, incompetent, nay-saying dirtbag.
If the board can't handle the occasional doubter or skeptic, maybe you ought to put that in the Terms of Use -- "please do not question or doubt the statement made here of allegedly by management. We do not like it"
I might have known going in....
that's interesting:
Under the spin-off agreement, Solar Energy Initiatives' shareholders as of market close on October 29, 2010 will receive one share of
I thought it was shareholders of september 2009.....
there's a difference between skepticism and pessimism.
Never did I say that I thought this company going down. You can go back and check if you want.
I offered up some skepticism because 99.9% of this board is sunshine and rainbows -- baseless speculative optimism. So I asked questions like "when?" and expressed "frustration" and the lack of activity......
I gotta say I really think you are being naive when you blindly believe 100% of management tells you on the phone without any skepticism on your part. But I hope you're right and we all end up rich.
read it how you want, you're choice, but get off my back for wondering aloud "when?"
thanks
I'll probably poke in now and then.
question:
What did you expect them to say when you email/call directly?
Do you think there's any chance they'd say "dude, we're so far behind. We may not have dots until 2020."
Did they give any specific proposal examples or just a vague "we're working on stuff... it's all good."?
I don't mean to be skeptical (but I am), just pointing out that of course they're going to respond with positive comments. I mean really, if they said "things ain't good right now" the stock price would go from .09 to like .02 in an instant.
And this doesn't apply solely to QTMM. Any company you call/email is going to have a positive spin on things. You could have called Wamu the day before they folded to Chase and they would have said "not to worry. things look good. the stock price is just a blip. we've got cash to weather this."
I didn't want to take away from their busy day
Again, you read what you wanted to and not what I wrote
People start companies to save the world everyday. They have dreams of being the next Bill Gates AND saving the rainforests at the same time. BUT, and this is what I said, companies are not started or go public solely for the benefit of the general shareholder (i.e. you and me). I was referring not to Squires' vision for cleaner technology and making the world a cleaner place through q-dots. That's a fine business plan. But what I was commenting on was the idea that QTMM went public solely to make investors rich -- like some sort of Robin Hood.
Right here you have summed up what I've been saying:
"But the benefits of his goal and vision is that
if Squires is able to achieve his goals,
with the T-Quantum Dot and the solar panel"
There's a key word in there that my whole pessimism, if you will, is based on. It's a small word but one that all penny stocks are subject to: "IF"
Nearly all the contributors to this board must have a different definition of "if" than I do. "If" does not mean "when" or "definitely" or even "probably".
This whole sh$t storm started because my definition of "if" has a strong dose of skepticism at this point.
I have no doubts this technology is better than juice boxes, sliced bread and corn dogs combined. But the funny thing is, is that the more I (or anyone else) questions QTMM here the more we get bombarded with technology articles. Or articles about the academia connections(i.e Rice U, etc). Including your response which focuses on Squires' technological vision but not so much on distribution or revenue streams.
I'm pretty much over and on board the technology. I'd like to see more discussion on revenues, sales.... you know, the business end of this company.
The dots aren't going to sell and install themselves.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I'm IN with some $$$ like the rest of you. I'm waiting, trying to be patient, because every week there's "something coming soon" or "just around the corner" or "any day now". The more people build my anticipation the more impatient I get. Like a good thriller, the suspense is killing me.
I'm not trying to bash this thing to short sell, I'm in long. I'm certainly not a naysayer -- I've got some cash riding on this. I simply voiced a small amount of concern and impatience and kind of got roasted for it.
Like bsullivan, I may just check out for a while and check in again in a few months. That way my hopes won't be built up to the point of frustration with all the "soon.... it'll happen soon".
I'm feeling the warmth here.
What gave you the impression that I was looking for a personal griping board? a comment that didn't fit into the typical "Q-Dots are awesome" style?
I guess I didn't realize that expressing some impatience was bitching.
Why jump down my throat for stating the obvious-- that this may not be the investment y'all think it is. If you're feeling a little defensive when someone questions QTMM maybe you've got too much $$$ on the line.
you're right about one thing though. This forum is to inform, research and discuss. So let's discuss this: WHY doesn't QTMM have any pre-sales or contracts to sell or even letters of intent of sales?
If this technology is so game changing, you'd think First Solar (or any other solar distributor) would have locked up reams of the stuff already.....
This is not bitching, it's asking a question. So refraining from snarky rhetoric and witty put downs would be appreciated.
you made yourself the tree, so I barked.
and the average being ~200,000.
That's an impressive increase. Anyone have an idea on how long this run will last?
judgmental much, Crunch?
A business pedigree such as yours is not required to be impatient.
"You cannot rush a successful business it takes baby steps." True, but have you seen any baby steps? I haven't.
You're also telling me that the day QTMM was formed as a company they also went public?
There was nothing until BOOM! Quantum Materials Corp was born and VOILA! they also appeared on the stock market? Really?
There was no business plan or venture capitalists or product prototype or employees or any of those things that usually precede an ipo?
And with relatively few outstanding shares they certainly didn't raise a ton of capital on that fateful day. They also aren't in the habit of issuing more shares to raise new funds. Which leads me to my next question: Why issue stock at all? For the $6 in capitalization? They could have gotten that by panhandling along Sand Hill Road.
And if you think they took this thing public for the benefit of people like you and me out of simple benevolence, you don't really understand how the stock market works. They went public for the cash, but what do they have to show for it?
So, as an investor with thousands of choices of companies to invest in, I have a right to be impatient with my investment. If I'm not at least a little impatient than I'm doing myself a disservice. Contentment and penny stocks aren't accustomed to being in the same sentence.
In exchange for my money and accepting a certain level of risk I get a few expectations-- like progress and progress reports. I clearly don't know how many other penny stocks you own so I won't presume your experience but in my experience with penny stocks there are usually PR's about things like (but not limited to) sales contracts, project developments, mergers & acquisitions, factory construction, etc. QTMM has gone stealth which sometimes precedes sudden company death -- an affliction not uncommon in the world of penny stocks. So, as an investor, don't I have the right, ne: obligation, to wonder what my money is up to. Especially in a high risk situation.
It would be one thing if Squires came out and publicly said "Listen up people; we're on track. The next 6 months will be dedicated to R & D. After that we're selling, selling, selling. In fact, we have initial contract agreements with several large solar contractors."
But, since he hasn't and I don't predict the future with any great accuracy, I'll just express my impatience. And I did read the 10q time lines you posted. I've also learned in my investing experience that 99.9% of companies are extremely optimistic in their time lines and forecasts. In other words, as a general rule, I don't take those at face value.
I guess, in the end, I've learned my lesson. Don't post to this Forum unless it's about sunshine and rainbows and make sure to do it with a spoonful of sugar.
where's the "like" button.... wait, this isn't Facebook.
looks pretty good at the moment
recent poll on Pro 19
looks pretty good at the moment
recent poll on Pro 19
boy did you read what you wanted to and not what I wrote.
Said NOTHING about the technology worrying me or the scientists or the inherent risks in penny stocks / start-ups / technology.
I did say I was getting IMPATIENT (which is different than leery, worrying, etc)
What I am concerned about is the management team's ability to take this technology (which I believe in) to market -- i.e. make a profit on it.
And so far there is NO evidence that QTMM will be a profitable business venture. Yes, they have cutting edge technology. Yes, they have scientists and sales people with many years of experience. BUT, they have NO sales or even contracts for sales. Profits become difficult without sales and revenues. As skilled as these scientists are, they can't literally print profits.
If there was substantial evidence of future profits, this stock wouldn't be stuck between .08 and .09. The market and stock price reflect all available information. So, at least in theory, QTMM is worth .09 for a reason.
This board has innumerable posts about the technology and how it's game changing but very few (bordering on zero) posts about company revenues, sales, contracts, etc.
So, like I said in the original post, I'm impatient (which is DIFFERENT than "worrying" or "averse to risk"). I'm a little surprised at the generally optimistic patience and loyalty demonstrated here to this stock. It's done nothing (except go down over time).
Look, in the end, I'm a believer. I have some cash riding on this like the rest of you. I'm just frustrated at the glacier-like progress being made.
And why the snarky tone?
Are actual concerns not allowed here?
I think we've established that Q-dots will be more important than air and water combined in the next 10 years, but what about QTMM? Is there any indication that they'll be able to sell the dots? or profit? or even produce them in time to save the planet?
I guess I'm getting impatient and wondering if this company has what it takes to turn technology into revenue....
how is this consistent with their mission of alternative fuels?
Oct 6, 2010 (GlobeNewswire via COMTEX) -- Universal Bioenergy (UBRG, Trade ) announced today that it is establishing a new subsidiary company that will directly produce and supply natural gas and petroleum to sell to its major utility customers, and growing customer base.
On October 1, 2010, executives of Universal Bioenergy, and NDR Energy Group flew to Houston, Texas, and engaged in direct discussions with several gas/oil production companies, to negotiate agreements to obtain natural gas and petroleum fuels directly from the wellhead, to market to its customers. They also made site visits to several oil and gas fields in the region to review the actual production and drilling process of the wells, production levels, reserves, and verified that of the several initially drilled wells, were actually "productive wells".
Gina Roy, CEO of NDR Energy Group, says, "The new company will have an operating group to drill and operate the wells, and a distribution group to manage the oil and gas transmission. The products will then be marketed and sold to our customers through NDR Energy Group, Universal's subsidiary."
Universal's Sr. Vice President, Solomon Ali, states, "Management continues to deliver on the commitments that we made to our shareholders to grow the Company. We generated revenues of $13.9 million in the second quarter this year. We believe, with our new gas supply company, we will obtain gas and petroleum at wholesale, or 'wellhead pricing', and sell much more product. The major benefits to our Company are, greater revenues, higher profit, lower product costs, increased assets, and competitiveness. This will also give us greater control over the supply chain, with our company as a producer, direct supplier, and distributor."
About The Company
Universal Bioenergy Inc. is an alternative energy company, and intends to create and market natural and alternative energy sources including natural gas, solar, biofuels, wind, synthetic fuels and related energy technology products. It plans to build the company into a prominent player in alternative energy.
between the financial savings from not enforcing the marijuana laws and revenues from taxing it, CA should see a fiscal gain out of Prop 19-- not enough to solve CA's budget issues but better than a stick in the eye.
The passage of Prop 19 will probably come down to voter participation.... how many "social conservatives" vote versus how many "progressive liberals" (for whatever those labels are worth).
The endorsement (or not) by the governor will have minimal affect, I think.
No idea. Maybe just someone dumping a large holding?
Might be a good opportunity to add some shares, especially if you think they can repeat or improve on the last quarter going forward.
The net result for the quarter was a loss per share but if they increase revenues by nearly 1000% in a few consecutive quarters the eps should jump quickly.
general question:
Is there any truth to my anecdotal observation that the more active the Board for a stock the less active the stock.
This is by far the most active board I check in with, yet the stock does basically nothing..... ever.
Anyone have this experience with other stocks?
if the stock is going up, any time is a good time to buy-- $.001 or $1000.00
but the opposite is true too. Stock going down is a bad time to buy
2010 has been a downward spiral for COIN and there aren't too many strong indications that a quick turnaround is imminent.
not much to discuss, no news for some time.... we're all waiting patiently
How many extensions are they allowed?
I think they're on one right now.
how many fake companies have you invested in?
I've certainly invested in a few dogs and some with very dubious futures but no imaginary companies.
ahhhh.... but they're running out of time to get past the $1 pps barrier to avoid delisting
and 75% of very little is even less.
Where's the "like" button?
Thanks SueBee
Shareholders of SNRY have been expecting spin-off shares of SOPV for quite some time now.
More good news, but will it be enough push the pps up?
BOSTON, Sep 30, 2010 (GlobeNewswire via COMTEX) -- Converted Organics Inc. (COIN, Trade ) announced today that the company has entered into an agreement with Republic Services of Salinas to divert food waste from local landfills and receive the food waste at the company's Gonzales, CA facility. Converted Organics will receive tip fees per ton of waste delivered and, pursuant to the company's mission, will recycle the food waste into organic fertilizer products. The relationship between the company and Republic Services of Salinas was facilitated by the Salinas Valley Solid Waste Authority (SVSWA), an agency that works to eliminate the need for landfills.
The additional food waste at the California facility follows the completion of facility upgrades and the receipt of a Solid Waste Facility Permit, which allows the facility to receive and process up to 250 tons of food waste per day.
Converted Organics and the Salinas Valley Solid Waste Authority worked collaboratively to design a food waste recycling program and help divert food waste from Salinas Valley landfills. Under the agreement, Republic Services of Salinas will deliver weekly loads of clean, source separated food waste to Converted Organics' facility in Gonzales, CA, which the company will process into organic fertilizers to be sold into the agriculture market.
"By securing a steady source of food waste through our agreement with BFI Waste Services, Converted Organics will increase food waste recycling throughout the Salinas Valley community, and through the expansion of operations, will also increase revenue at our Gonzales facility, which will account for seventy-five percent of our revenue in 2010," Edward Gildea, President and CEO of Converted Organics comments. Mr. Gildea continues, "The vision of SVSWA to eliminate the need for landfills is invaluable to a sustainable future, and we hope that our partnership with BFI Waste Services is the first of many relationships the company will establish with the help of SVSWA."
There are also just as many or more alt energy stocks that are floundering.
Since Germany announced the change in tax/incentive policy many solar stocks have been stuck or even pulling back. Many American alt energy companies are really struggling in this recession-- people don't have the cash to buy solar panels anymore-- and investors aren't excited about putting money into in industry with no customers.
Large scale projects have been put on hold b/c banks aren't lending....
ALTEX an alt energy index is down nearly 50% from it's 2008 high
wouldn't that be nice.....
not holding my breath though. The market seems rather fickle regarding alternative energy stocks these days.
There is also money to be made in real fake doggie doo doo companies....
What's your point?
And please elaborate on how CMSI loses money in CA if/when the voters legalize weed.
legal or not, it's weak.