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Can someone sticky the photobucket pics so we can refer to them when there are questions.
Channels and tunnels, the tunnels are always cut out of solid rock below the channels, if you can imagine trying to cut a channel in the sand and how hard it is to keep from getting caveins from the soft gravels in the channels. the track haulage is installed on bedrock and except for the occasional cave ins the tunnel is stable. Once you start doing a tunnel you will know about where channels are running above by water that will be dripping down from the ceiling. They will cut an alcove out in the tunnel and bring in a drill and drill up until they reach gravel, the slurry coming down is tested until they reach gravel instead of rock coming down. Once they hit gravel they know exactly how far up the channel is. they will move over to both sides of the first drilling and do it again and measure the depth. They do that until they feel they are in the middle of the channel and sample the gravel they are getting. If it looks good they will build a tunnel there with track haulage and then build a raise up to the gravel and start working the channel. The Ruby already has mapping of all the known channels so most of that work is already done. Right now they will start working the know channels like the White and the Black. You can see from the pictures of the White channel how big the raise is. IMSHA wants the raise bigger in the event of a rescue they need it bigger. With the blasting permit they can now make the raise bigger and rebuild the chute coming down. Once that is done they can bring in the equipment to pull the gravel down and start processing it.
For the most part there will be none, it is all gold bearing gravel, once they get the raise opened up and the chutes repaired any gravel in the channel could be sampled. there isn't a lot of room to stand so there will be some manual labor to get it open enough to get the equipment in. Cave ins in tunnels are different then cave ins from a channel. Channel cave ins will be material that can be processed since it is in the channel gravel, tunnel caveins aren't good for obvious reasons.
White channel gold, take a look at the picture on the website with the gold sitting on the scale. Read what the caption says, it says this is first gold found NEAR the black channel. It really doesn't matter where it was found, there is a lot of it in there.
How they work a channel, you read that they need to widen the raise for the white channel and bring in some equipment. If you look at my photobox pictures you will see a picture of what I am calling a bucket puller, there is another name for it but I can't remember what it is. But what that does is has cables attached to it and levers that you push and pull and the cables pull and push a bucket back and forth. it is attached to the back wall at the end of the channel and the bucket pulls material towards you and into and down the raise where the ore carts are waiting. Each time they blast they will move the cables further to the back of the wall they just blasted and pull more material towards the raise and drop it down into the ore carts. I know this may not make sense but that is the equipment they are referring to that needs to be taken in there.
one of the things I learned from Gary was that when they build tunnels like that they always pitch the tunnels at least 1 degree towards the entrance. That does 2 things, it allows for a continuos flow of water out of the mine and when the ore carts are full and heavy there is a slight downhill pull on the carts that assist the carts to go out of the mine.
I have more videos to download soon, the computer I was on last night was real slow and would not down load the rest of the videos.
The question I have for the board is this. After spending all day with Gary and charley and looking at maps, all of which are on the website so nothing new, I have a complete understanding of how they Ruby will work. How detailed do you guys want me to be?
I have all kinds of info that I will be passing on when I wind down my trip. The gold samples that were found in the white channel were found by Gary Clifton. He and charley climbed up the ladder you see in the pictures and crawled around with small hammers and picks and sifted through some gravel. You can't really stand up in the white channel so they crawled around. Once they get the raise bigger and get equipment up there they can start running material.
I told them in the office what we were planning and they are all for it. As I said before, everyone was great out there and welcome shareholders even though I was the first shareholder to visit the mine.
Actually there isn't alot of room at the mine but if you look at the office with the big tool up door and plenty of parking and several nice hotels we can party in grass valley and pack everyone in my motor home to the mine.
Good morning NBRI. On my final leg to SoCal for a few days with dad. It has been a great trip and a very learning trip that I will share more info as time goes on. Understand that Perry is not a miner but a business man but he has surrounded himself with the best people in the industry with decades of experience. Let Perry handle the business end and let charley and Gary handle the mining end. Go NBRI.
Not right now. For 2 reasons, one is I don't have any extra cash right now and won't have any available until April but I will be buying in April.
I didn't want to comment on the post with the pictures so it would be clean if you decide to I box it. Some of the movies did not download so I will do that at a later date. Some of the pics have descriptions but understand I left the Ruby at 4 this afternoon and drove until 2 this morning and am sitting in the hotel lobby downloading the pics. Some of the pics are already shown on the website, some aren't, I will post a story on photobucket explaining what everything is and how it fits into our mine. Good night everyone.
Took alot of pics and will post them tomorrow night when I get back to LA and get on a computer.
I am still in the mountains with limited phone access. Will update when I have better service.
Hello NBRI. Spanky, red carpet is an understatement. The whole crew and staff were absolutely wonderful. I spent the whole day with Gary Clifton. Went into the mine with him and charley Johnson, the head miner. Got all the way back to the old black channel raise. Also the white channel raise and the 109 raise. The work they have done is phenomenal.
Update. Just spent 2 hrs having a great conversation with the geologist Gary Clifton. Heading out to the mine right now.
Dolphy. I am out here visiting family in SoCal and the mine trip was an afterthought when I made my plans. Beautiful morning here in Grass Valley. Go NBRI.
Good morning NBRI. After 6 hrs of flying and 9 hrs of driving I'm finally in grass valley about 4 blocks from the office. Time to get some sleep before the mine tour. Go NBRI.
Hello NBRI. Sitting at Denver airport waiting for flight to LA. Looking forward to tomorrow. Go NBRI.
Hard hat, check. Steel toe boots, check. Grubby jeans, check. Head light, check. Long sleeve flannel shirt cause its cold in that mine, check. Slicker, it's wet in there, check. I am packed and ready. The best I can say is that with my conversations with Perry, I can honestly verify all that has been Pr'd which should be enough for most people and take lots of pictures. Getting a third party verification of what has been PR'd is good for me. I will also verify the site for the shareholders party next year. Go NBRI.
I have been there too and learned alot from it and all those warning signs I should have seen taught me alot. I haven't seen any of those warning signs with NBRI. More importantly we are able to verify information with this stock unlike stocks with mines out of North America. Go NBRI.
As you all know, Perry is always on the up and up and would not put me in touch with his staff and arrange a visit if there was the slightest chance of a problem. I'm really getting excited about it and fly out tomorrow. You know that CA is 3 hrs behind the east coast so I will be posting updates all day Wednesday and hope to get the pics loaded by Thursday. Go NBRI.
I have been given specific information on how to handle my visit. Anyone can call and make a visit to the mine so it is not just one person being allowed inside information. Anything I see is the same as anything anyone else could see so it is not inside information. The office staff and miners all know what they can say or do but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to make a visit and see what's going on out there.
Spanky, you and all the rest of the people in here know I'm long and most of your points are correct however we do have a 1 mil balloon payment due on the Ruby by December 31st unless Perry can get another extension.
Nope, flying into LA and driving up. Won't get through Sacramento til about midnite and even later to Grass Valley. Meeting at the office at 8 AM. Gonna be a crazy trip. After leaving the mine I'm driving back to LA to spend time with my sick dad.
Next week we will know alot. We will know how many miners are at the Ruby. We will know how many crews are working and a whole lot more. Just 1 more week and we will have some answers. Go NBRI.
Just for clarification. My visit is set up for next Wednesday November 6. I'm meeting the safety director and the mine super at the office, we are gonna all go to breakfast then head out to the mine which is a little over an hr from the office.
Well I think we are in trouble. I was told yesterday that the Ruby Mine is closed. I'm going out to CA next week to see family with a side trip to the mine and my little brother informed me that the Ruby Mine closed years ago so don't waste your time going up there. Go NBRI.
http://s1090.photobucket.com/user/RBeau1954/slideshow/Ruby%20Mine
This is a test to see if I am doing this right. The link above is where I will post all the Ruby Mine pics and videos when I get them so I am testing the link. There is only one pic in there and it is not of the Ruby mine. If the link fails let me know. Go NBRI
Good morning folks. Well it is 10 days til my mine visit and I'm getting excited about it. Getting a new digital, waterproof camera for the trip and will gets lots of pics. If there are specific questions any of you want asked, pm me and I'm taking a notebook and will be taking alot of notes.
Goodfree, I have 3 accounts, 2 401K's with my employeer that gives me limited investment opportunities and one self directed 401 k with Scottrade. There has been some good advice in here about how to invest and everyone needs to make there own decisions that they are comfortable with. After floating around with my self directed account and winning a little and losing a little I chose to sell all of my other stocks and invested all of it into NBRI. If I lose it all I still have 2 other accounts and 2 other retirement plans from previous employeers so I don't have a problem with the high risk/high reward issue. Gotta be careful when dealing with the wife's future security. I go through that with my wife, she can move money around in her account but doesn't feel safe investing in stock so she keeps it all in mutual funds and is happy with her 5-10% a year growth. Gotta keep the wife feeling happy and secure.
Another good question to ponder. Why do the office staff and miners own shares. Shares they bought, not given to them instead of a salary?
I am excited and yes they are taking me into the mine. My background as a past member of the ASME and a commissioned inspector with the National Board of Boiler and Pressure Vessel inspectors is enough to satisfy there safety inspector.
Ok. I have made contact with the mine and I have my instructions on what to do and where to go. If all who have contacted Perry are impressed with his response, you would be more then impressed with the office staff and mine super. They all take there lead from Perry and have nothing but hi regard for him.
I don't have to physically go into the mine. I want to see the whole operation and meet the guys. I plan on taking alot of pics and videos of everything I can.
Looks like we are still in standby mode. 2 weeks til my mine trip. I can't wait. Go NBRI.
Phat. Just what I was thinking. Why waste money on a drilling program when you still have to get into the mine. Money well spent. They are in the mine and know where to go. Petty is one smart guy.