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Something wrong with that. I've been trading NSAV for years in etrade. They DO have a new disclaimer that you must agree to, but oabiously, everyone here is able to buy on etrade. Next time CALL your broker and get them to fix it. No one here can help with that.
The ticker change has already been applied for. When it is approved, it will change in your portfolio. Been there, done that. Has nothing to do with pink, current or anything else. It simply a trading ticker change. Happens all the time.
TDA has ALWAYS been that way with NSAV. (At least the last 5 years.) It is not going to change. It is not even a DTC chill - it is simply not registered at DTC. If you want NSAV, get a broker that lets you buy whatever you want. I've used etrade since 2008, and like it just fine.
When buying, look at the bid/offer. If you want to purchase at .0979, set it for a limit, good for 60 and wait until one of the MM's fills it at that price. If you place your limit at the 'offer' price, you will get shares immediately, because they are obligated to sell them to you or someone else that has a buy in. But they also have a 'quantity' at which they will sell...so they are only obligated to sell that quantity. If they don't change their spread, your order should fill because you can get that quantity over and over.
Or a rollover IRA - which is where the majority of my NSAV is. That is all before tax money and I'll only have to pay regular taxes on it as it comes out.
That's not how it works. When noteholders convert to shares, they IMMEDIATELY sell them. They aren't traders, they are lenders, and they want money, not shares. So - they get them at a huge discount, then dump them on the market, ensuring they all get sold. That's when you see a sharp decrease is share price.
It has been that way for years. I'm up $5,000,000 on NSAV...on etrade. No, it's not a chill...they simply never applied to get dtc registered. Go read NSAV's twitter, he explained why...
Check out the fees charged by dtc...
DTC Fee Guide
I have NSAV in 4 portfolios - two of mine, two of my partner's. Today, added together, we gained $1.4M...
It can be done. I got us in at trips, with a sound 'sounding' business plan. Later, none of that business plan worked out, and it sat for years doing nothing. Those were the 'pot' years.
Now, it is a whole new business plan that sounds even better than the previous one - but we still have seen no revenue, which is the ultimate gauge upon which to judge a company. This is the 'crypto' years.
We have now taken out over $1M from NSAV and put it into dividend stocks that pay us around $20K per month...Thank you, NSAV. The wait was worth it.
As far as I am concerned, I was just lucky. There was no wise decision except to not sell at a loss. But here it is - 9005.03% growth. I can hardly believe it myself. No, I'm not going to try to prove it to anyone, but it is what Etrade says.
I got my partner in at a lower price...her appreciation is now:
Symbol Total Gain %
NSAV 21,029.62%
I don't care about past posts. I'm telling you I ordered shares at a limit, and got them filled in 13 tranches of 99,000, plus some at different prices. That is because MM's fill larger orders with tranches, and 13 of the same exact size is no coincidence, and it has nothing whatever to do with share price or volume. It is related to their bid/ask, which is accompanied with a quantity. This is normal MM Activity, just as when people say they see a subpenny stock 'order' for 100 shares. No one buys that few at a time, the commission would cost more than the shares.
I can COPY my partial fills and post them here, if anyone wants to see them. That number is how one MM fills orders, that is all.
It is meaningless. At least one MM does it that way. I bought 5M shares recently, and got 13 99,000's out of it. You are seeing tranches, not whole orders.
choose a better broker. They are full of BS...
That is not the issue, regardless of what you were told. NSAV shares are NOT registered at DTC, and never have been. TDA won't trade any non-dtc registered shares. It is really that simple.
Get a better brokerage, like etrade.
Uh, yeah, the fundamentals...the first one would be revenue, then profit, then eps and ebitda...none of which is in NSAV's wheelhouse. Yeah, play those fundamentals. And take off the pink sunglasses for a smarter view of things.
And a birdish diversion occurs when the pigeon curve crosses the goose curve. Yeah, using big board ideas on stinky pinkies really works. As if...
Yes, TDA doesn't permit trading NSAV and other companies that it doesn't think you should invest in. Use Etrade and buy whatever you want.
Another point is that HPIL was FIVE years behind in filing. They are done in order, beginning with the first one not filed. Each filing has what the previous one had, but with the new stuff added. So, some companies may have only needed one filing to get current, but HPIL had 20 missing!
are you really pointing to a 4-year-old filing from this company's former CEO as proof of anything today with a different CEO and business plan?
No. Officers in public companies are always in quiet period except for after filings, for 30 days. THINK ABOUT IT! They can't trade before telling the public about the financial status!!!
The whale issue is resolved because you have a few thousand shareholders, but 12 BILLION shares? Good lord!!
I'm sorry, that is simply not true. I've been a director in a public company, and we had to observe the quiet period at all times. Insiders know more about the company than anyone else. It would be totally unfair for insiders to be able to make coup by trading before the public knew of the situation.
You have no idea. Insiders are the LAST to be able to trade.
CEO has not been buying any shares. Insiders can only buy/sell within 30 days of filing fins, and they have no filings. No insiders can buy.
Actually, go back and read what HPIL posted. They said an 'offer' which means they have shareholders in mind to buy from. No, it won't be on the open market. It CAN be, but it won't be this time, if you believe what they announced.
The buyback has nothing to do with out shares. They are buying from select shareholders only. Most likely, family and friends of insiders...
My guess would be at least 10% of the OS...
Until they tell us what the primary energy source is for this car, we are all just guessing. But there HAS to be a primary energy source in order to charge the battery, period.
Yes, I served 8 years in the US Submarine service. TS cleared. And, I'm 77...but I've been on the internet since the 90's...
Yes, I have twitter, Facebook, and Instagram. This guy has nothing, not even Linked-In.
Yes, I was around for it, but it never happened.
But it is one of the reasons I loaded so many NSAV shares...sounded good at the time.
I looked him up when his name was first mentioned. I only see his name associated with hpil - so there is little to find out about him. It is suspicious to me that a relatively unknown person could have come up with a new technology for charging a battery and yet kept his name out of the internet.
Jeeze, take it easy. HPIL had not filed anything since 2016. They have to catch them ALL up!
A company can 'go current' any time. But if they're in the gray market, it may require extra steps to get back in the pink market. You can read about these levels on OTCM...or just google it.
No, it has nothing to do with mm's. They, of course, don't care what the price does. They operate on their spread, not as traders.
If you see a 'wall', it is one of your own shareholders that are selling/buying.
I have a mill open order for .051...when it gets close, you'll see it 'on the ask'. Has absolutely nothing to do with MM's.
Brokerages each have their own rules. But it is the SEC that made the decision to not support pink stop companies, and all brokerages must follow those rules.
If a company goes 'gray', you are stuck with those shares. They aren't sellable, because they can't be purchased. MM's will be forced to not offer a spread for pink stop and below.
A buyback offering is exactly that. The company 'offers' to buy a block of shares from a shareholder. No telling how many people scooped up trips and are now sitting on piles of shares. Some of them could be friends or family...
No problem, though...taking shares off the market is the opposite of dilution...undilution.
That is impossible. NSAV is already a public company, so it can't ''GO' public. An IPO is an INITIAL PUBLIC OFFERIMG, which is not possible if you are already public.
The point here is to recognize fake shit from real shit. NSAV holding company cannot POSSIBY go public, because it is ALREADY public, or you could not even be trading it here.
NSAV has never attempted to become DTC compliant. Not really a need to. It trades fine with the right brokers...
Most of us now see those messages. It's a new SEC rule that prevents trading on otc Pink Stop companies.
All MM's will buy your shares if you sell into their bid. They HAVE to. And their spreads are all different.
The first mm 'wins', which is a primary reason it's automated. A person doesn't choose what to buy or sell - their spread does it. If you choose to buy within their offer, you will get the shares - they HAVE to sell them to you, even if they have to borrow them from someone else.
However, I could sell 1000000 shares for each penny the stock goes up until it's over $.50, and would STILL have over 25M left.
I don't lie. And I don't need to prove anything to a bunch of strangers.
They can either buy them at market, or make an offer to a larger investor. I would not be surprised to learn that they already know where they are getting those shares.