What is this? Everyone accuses everyone else of being pumper dumpers and you all go quite :)

Looks like the sellers starting to dry out, maybe we will see come changes.

I don't speak Sweedish, but point taken :)

That is both sad and funny at the same time. I have been sitting on half a mill and will not sell until It is worth it.

and back down too .002. What in the heck determins the price on this stock!!

Volvo -

OK so I have a little more info. the info that Volvo and Delphi would be starting work on a DME system came from this website that I am sure most if not all of you are already firmilure with.

http://www.aboutdme.org/

However it does nto stated wether AFTC will still be helping and or selling parts to either company. So I think AFTC could still be helping in this venture.

Guess we will just have to wait on Jim for an answer to this one.

Hey to all - I have been trying to do more resarch about the Volvo info I put out. Here is what I was told last month by another buyers of AFTC last month regarding volvo.

Volvo and Delphi have decided to develope there own DME fuel system.

I am currently trying to verify where the info came from, if it was Jim himself or this persons own reserch. I will keep you updated.

Either way I think the millitary contracts are still the bread and butter for AFTC at this point.
I am not trying to run AFTC down, just want to make sure we have all the facts.

Hey to all - I have been trying to do more resarch about the Volvo info I put out. Here is what I was told last month by another buyers of AFTC last month regarding volvo.

Volvo and Delphi have decided to develope there own DME fuel system.

I am currently trying to verify where the info came from, if it was Jim himself or this persons own reserch. I will keep you updated.

Either way I think the millitary contracts are still the bread and butter for AFTC at this point.
I am not trying to run AFTC down, just want to make sure we have all the facts.

Does anyone know what is wrong with the pick sheets? Why is the problem with the pick sheets important to us? Is Jim saying the pinks are keeping the price low? Also was this not supposed to be fixed 3 weeks ago? More question in that e-mail then answers.

Thanks Bubble Tea - HE has not been getting back to me on my e-mails. I am sure he is just swamped.

Hey all - sorry to say, but I know another investor not on this board that follows aftc and I am pretty sure that Volvo is no longer using AFTC and has started using there own technology. If anyone can dige deeper on this it would be good to know. But it is stuck in my head that this info came from James on Volvo. Like I said I hope I am wrong.

Quite a jump at the end of the day!

I am not sure how I feel at this point. There has to be a reason that they are holding back news. I am new in the market so I am learning as I go.

Do you beleive that James is going to move this comp off the pinks? Because he talks as though he wants to. But from what I have read there is realy no reason for him not too other then he may not be ready or want to have to report everything going on in the comp.

Spect777 - So what is your thought? Is AFTC real or Scam?

Good Stuff bubble tea - I used to be on yahoo and know of this guy you are talking about. He is really bent on killing this stock. I also e-mailed Jim about this lie.

I am not sure how to keep this guy from spreading these lies, but I can say he is killing the stock for yahoo users.

no volume at all? Does anyone have an order in? It seems odd to me that there is no movment at all.

I am not at all suprised the market has not responded. It will not respond until we see this news actully reported in a real PR announcment.

It bothers me greatly that James has not put out real news in a way that would help the stock in over 4 months. It seems to me that he would rather keep everything that is happening under raps and I am not sure why.

Lets hope the PR for AFTC gets better soon. Starting to think that the share holders are not important to AFTC. I hope I am wrong.

Thanks for the info. But to be hounest the only way that any of this will help the price is if the company gets its PR house in order. I sware, the Denver Nuggets do a better job of PR then AFTC has done over the last year.

Thanks for the info. But to be hounest the only way that any of this will help the price is if the company gets its PR house in order. I sware, the Denver Nuggets do a better job of PR then AFTC has done over the last year.

Nice! :)

Everyone is so quiet! No news from anyone about anything? At least a little speculation? :)

From your mouth to God's ears!

I agree with you on this. I was in FL in late aug and many of there buses run on bio fuels. We really need some state reps to take a look at cost of DME for all public transpertation. It would be more then enough to give a company like AFTC a foot hold into some real business.

There was some talk last year about CA starting to look at DME for there bus systmens. Does anyone else remeber that? or did I dream it up?

Funny thing is I thought of your post when I saw the movement :) I hope you are right.

Looks like we had some good buys early on and then one big one jumping ship. Either way, it is the most movment I have seen in weeks!

I wish I new. Everything that he says in his e-mails and in past PR reports leads me to believe that he is not a scammer, but I find it really odd that there has been no real news in awhile.

My experience is the same as others. I e-mailed him before the DME conference to find out why he was pulled off the agenda for the conference. He said he had an important meeting with the Army that could not be changed. He also stated he had a meeting planning for this month with a confidential party in Asia. I am hold out hope being that I have also lost thousands at this point.

Hey Penny - Do you think that it is at all a possibility that James in not able to give specifics on money numbers on military contracts? I almost think that some if not all of the money they are bringing in might have come from a contract that no one seems to talk about any more and that is the potential 20 million Navy contract that AFTC bid on well over a year ago. I found it strange that there was never news as to if they were still in the running for it, it kind of just disappeared. If they did get any faze of that project I would think it would be classified because of the nature of the project and who it was for, hence no real news. What are you thoughts?

WHAT?!

First, how did I misrepresent AFTC?

Second - Aren’t Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi both Democrats in speakers of the house and Senate since 2006? You can’t be the majority speaker if you are not the majority party.

I am not sure what facts you are talking about. Like I said I would rather not talk politics other then to say that I do not think one party or the other in power will hurt or help this stock. It is all about production, and I really hope we get news from AFTC that they have a good production year. Thanks!

I think that most people assume that because he was in oil for so long, but if you look past what the political pundits say you will find that GW was pushing an all of the above aproch to energy including oil and alternatives. Just stating facts, and the facts state the market did nto take a dive until dems took over the house and sen in 2006. The market likes GOP leaders and there is not much that will change that. This and most stocks are down because people are afraid to invest at this point. Believe it or not a change in the house and sen will help. MARK MY WORDS. Nov 3 will be a stock market boom day. OK.. ENOUGH POLITICS! I am not hear to preach my GOP ways, I am living proof that conservitives like alternative fuel as much or even more then the next guy :) GO AFTC!!

One president too late? Looking back over the market and AFTC I would say that AFTC had its best run under GW. Facts are facts. Anyway, why are we going political on this. I agree that the tax credit will help AFTC. I agree that we need to help the private sector companies like AFTC. Nothing political about the truth. facts are facts.

Not sure - I just know that if I were to sell now next year I would be kicking myself!

I know that there are allot of people that are down on this stock for this or that reason. But there is just way too much in the way of evidence that points to this being a real company that is selling real equipment to real customers. One problem that this company has is that some of there business can not be reported because of the nature of military orders. I still think that the Navy order from last year went classified and we will not ever hear about it, just see it on the quarterly reports in the way of cash.

All that to say this. Just because the stock is down and people have lost money does not make it a scam stock.

People said I was crazy 2 years ago when I bought up as much Ford stock at 1.50 as I could. I think we are all in the same boat. Educated guesses.

Hey All - What it is worth. I got a similure response for the CEO on Monday. Hang in there!

I know that he is being truthful with us.

I feel like the problem with this stock is that everytime it gets to .004 people cash out.

atleast the vol was up some today! Have not seen much movement in the last few days.

I don’t know how true it is but I heard that Volovo also dropped AFTC for there own new technology. I really am starting to feel a bit like the CEO could be doing more to get us detailed news. Everything is hear say at this point. I have not choice but to hold, I am under on this stock.

I agree with you pupp, I think that this stock could go as high as 25 cents. I just we had something more to be encouraged about other then old news

I am not trying to be a downer, but that is not really news, most of it is rehash and the rest is (Maybe)work. I am still high on this stock, but we need some real news. Like hey, we did get that 20 million navy project last year that seems to have fallen off most investers radars.

Well - I am sticking it out on this one. I think that AFTC has too much upside to drop at this point. We seem to be at bottom point, so here is too knowing that it can only go up from hear!

:)

Etrade is the same- they told me it will be thursday before they have it fixed. In the meantime is i want to sell or buy I can call in and they will take care of it for me.

Well so far the low is slightly higher then is has been at .0015. So instead of going back and forth between 1 and 2 it is 0.0015 and 0.002 :)

Can someone helt me out? Why do we want the R/S to happen. From almost everything I see it does not help companies at all. Thanks!

explain???