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Jim Bishop. That was your math? Thank you very much showing your skills.
Jim Bishop. How did you get your numbers? Show the math.
Jim Bishop. Ok and thanks. Anyway, don't tell anything to Windsor Rats. You should understand that.
OT. OK. Thank you.
Party. What plant of the Lafarge's plants he has acquired? I understood he has made a contract where Lafarge is one of the suppliers. No plant acquired. What do you know more?
Jim Bishop. Then what has your business to do with? Your own board - what kind of board?
Gdp81. Yes, if a private (or a public) company seeks a loan, the bank or the financial institute will certainly do their own "financial audit" along with other inspections. That's what certainly was done in the old days of the privately owned family enterprise Sulja Bros. They had a very good reputation.
This newly established company SLJB has already come public, is seeking for officially audited financials and a move to a higher grade exchange. All good for creating new business relationships.
Gdb81. No, private companies do not have to "officially" have their annual financials audited by a third part. Their financials are prepared for taxation by their CFO's financial department. If they are not honest they only get punished if the IRS get them caught by making random inspections.
I do not mean that they could bluff more easily than public companies. No way, they are under strict control, too. But, in a way, the shareholders can be more confident, when the annual financials are secured by a third party auditor.
Jim Bishop. Everybody knows, how the "news" are treated. The big boys saw a good opportunity to dumb the price, and do not underestimate the power of these message boards. If we all here should have said "Big deal if the AFs are late. They will come out, when they are ready", the damage would not have been so big. The FUD spread here on this message board - were you there among those who spread it, Mr. Bishop? - with hundred of thousands of readers, scared many shareholders to sell in the deliberately created panic selling. This board is not a court house. Do not declare a company/person guilty before adamant proof.
Gdb81. You know the private sector is bigger than publicly traded companies. They do not prove their creditability to business partners with audited financials, they have to prove it with their business operations. Audited financials for a start-up company like Sulja is a faster proof of their creditability.
Every deal negotiated will not always automatically come true, no matter how distinguished the contract partners are. There can always be changes, delays, cancellations of agreements in business life. For these events there are (not always) clausules in the agreements.
What I want to say is a cancellation of a contract ( e.g.Sulja's #350M cement contract) is not a big deal. You just move on and get other contracts.
Jim Bishop. So what? Learn to look into the future and do not get caught spiralling in the past. Think about it before you come every evening with your ancient opinions.
Don't get stuck in the past. This company is just starting to function. Yes they have had a so to say quite a colourful start, but I think the boys are starting to learn, and can achieve something not at all to sneeze at.
I would not stare too much in the past. Not too many small businesses, which I know of, have made their beginning without errors and mistakes. All did not survive, but those, who were in good business sector, have made better, and I believe that Sulja is in good basic business. Lumber and concrete do not disappear from building and construction in the very near future.
Mr. Bishop. You have to learn to be patient in the stock market. Like a cheetah behind the bush waiting for a good catch. You should know that. Or are you also a wannabe-millionaire-overnight? I was expecting more than that from you.
Mssskinny. Heard your opinions already, no need to banging your drum here, thank you. Change the record.
Jannie. Sorry, ran out of number of my posts, so I could not answer you yesterday. What I was trying to say was that this company is just starting to function. Yes they have had a so to say quite a colourful start, but I think the boys are starting to learn, and can achieve something not at all to sneeze at. But that will take time - more time now after all these pumps in the road.
I would not stare too much in the past. Not too many small businesses, which I know of, have made their beginning without errors and mistakes. All did not survive, but those, who were in good business sector, have made better, and I believe that Sulja is in good basic business. Lumber and concrete do not disappear from building and construction in the very near future.
Knocker/Lebanese. If you intend to ask the Trade Show organizer questions about one exhibitor, act like a customer, who is interested in this company's coming to the show. If you as outsiders start asking sneaky questions about their payments, it's again very negative for Sulja. The payment program is certainly on their website, where you can make a preliminary reservation. They have a brochure, and will publish an Exhibition Catalogue after the final deadline of confirmed registration.
Heywood. Every shareholder has the right to demand information about the company. Pick up the phone or go to Windsor and present your questions. You are not obligated tell anybodyy what you learned. It's up to the company what they tell you.
Thanks to Airys and StockHOG we all got confirmation to at least some questions, which have created uncertainty among shareholders. I do not see the things they have told us as inside information, just confirming existing facts.
Heywood. Companies give quite important information on their websites before they publish a PR via newswires. How can they do so when it is certainly not available to all shareholders? Is the practice changing.
Airys and StockHOG were not in Windsor to get inside information, they went there to get confirmation to already published information.
Don't tell him Snips. Let him guess the rest of his life.
Jobec. Sure, you have your opinion, I have mine. Dogs are barking, but the caravan keeps on moving.
Siron. By saying they are not a start-up company they ment that they do not actually belong to Pinkyland. They were not a company with 1 billion shares and 5 million debt. Their background is family enterprise, who has been in business in 20 years - from there some experience. SLJB, however, is a new entity with new projects. Don't listen to everything you may hear here.
Tuslog. I recall. Go back and find what they have done already. Your list is about what wil be coming. Calm down now. Close your PC, step back and come back next week. You'll see you can't help laughing.
Peorge. Yes, that can be it. Next year this time. Find something else to rave about until then.
Tuslog. Go back and find a list somebody (sorry, don't remember who) kept updating what the company had fulfilled and what not. Not a short list. Try to search.
Jim Bishop. Forget finally about LFWK, Ammerman and Devries. You are circulling around in a mouse wheel of the past. Come out, free your mind, dont get stuck with these ..mmm... you know what! It has no significant meaning for Sulja now.SLJB began operating their own projects in last summer. I think they need more time than four months to prove something.
Tuslog. Give these people TIME. This company as such has worked only 4 MONTHS!! Do you have any idea what it is like to found a company with new business projects, and work and develope the projects before you are starting to have some proof to show? It is not done in six months. Don't you see how unfair you demands are. Come back next year this time, and ask your questions then.
Picantel. Petar the Scammer would have got only their commission from that contract. I don't know the percentage of their commission.
Picantel. What do you mean "about 100 times their normal take"? If you act as a broker in a cement deal you do not need even to see the cement bags. You just arrange the deals - as big as ever - and get your commission. It happens that the one of the parties cancels the deal, and the middleman can get nothing from it. Usually there are clauses for that in the deal.
Do you really believe that every deal negotiated always automatically will come through? No changes, no delays, no cancellations? Boy, you better stay away from business world.
Now, your turn to go to Windsor and clear up the things bothering you. Do it, so you need not to use your imagination so much.
Folks. Give these people time. This company as such has worked only 4 MONTHS!! Do you have any idea what it is like to found a company with new business projects, and work and develope the projects before you are starting to have some proof to show? It is not done in six months. Come back next year this time, and ask your questions then. Wannabe-millionaires-overnight, don't put your money in companies in their infancy - or if you put, stop splitting hairs and whining. Wait for the results a little bit longer than four months.
At least better than news from ever whining yankeedoodles.
Just my own opinion.
You sound unhappy. Didn't you get news what you wanted? Wait for the report.
Wait for their report. If they got enough information to hold that's good sign. We'll see.
Sounds good. I think he would not have mentioned his stocks at all if he was not satisfied with the information they got.
Sextus. To me the main problem is why do the regulators allow companies, who have no responsibilities to their shareholders come public and trade at all. Companies, which can carelessly PR whatever without no obligation to prove any facts.
Every company, which would like to sell their shares to the public, should first legally prove what they have (audited financials) and then publish quarterly financials, so that the investors could get truthfull facts to make their decisions.
Gabeh. Did Petar mean the 2006 proformas or did he perhaps mean the 2007 proformas, which was quickly removed from the website? Where did he say they should not have been released? Which one did he really mean?
Thank you Abbam. Now we perhaps get some info what will be confirmed and what will not.
NewMoney. We are not asking them to give us inside info. We are asking them to confirm the already publicly given statements. If we do not get that information then WE KNOW IT. We will not be given any information from the company - that will be confirmed. We KNOW that if we want the information we must proceed the next step to get it, and not just keep wondering if the company maybe give us some information tomorrow or next week.
I believe that. Thank you for doing this and Good Luck!