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I told you you can READ IT FOR YOURSELF on THIS BOARD. That history is all there.
No, it can't reverse merge into NSAV. NSAV is a holding company, which means it has interest, up to and including 100% of OTHER companies. Reverse mergers is how private companies go public if they can't IPO, but they don't merge into holding companies.
The 200M I had is down to a little over 100M now.
Back in 2017, JT was a new CEO for NSAV, and he had a very reasonable business plan for NSAV. It was basically about cannabis, even talking about growing it in PA. There was also the hemp beer, and the hemp testing. His incentive for people to buy shares was to offer a dividend where you would get a 'free' share of NSAV for every 10 shares you owned. The price was pretty low then, so I bought 5M shares, to get the 500K dividend shares. I still have those - they are unregistered, and restricted. He never freed them. Back to 2017...he kept mentioning new deals, and another dividend for Hemp beer, a company he was going to start, where we'd get a share of Hemp Beer for every 17 shares of NSAV. Many of us bought boatloads of NSAV to participate in that dividend. That one never happened.
Additionally, he talked about a share buyback that he was going to do, where instead of returning the shares to the treasury, he would put them into a 'fund' that we shareholders would be part owner of, making the rest of our shares more valuable. That never happened either.
The bottom line is this: There were MANY deals that were announced, all of which you can find in the 2017 files in this very message board. A lot of the tweets about those days were copied here, so you can read them, but he DELETED that twitter account, so you can't find those that way any more.
The days in 2017 are very much like 2021...lots of deals mentioned, but so far, nothing from 2017 to now has actually materialized, to produce even a penny of profit.
Then, when the stock tanked all the way down, some of us were bag holders, and I at least, sold some other stocks for profit, and loaded up NSAV at the bottom, hoping for a recovery sometime. It took 4 years, but it happened. Just a lucky hunch that it would sometime recover, and the profit from those .0001's would make up for the higher priced ones. I never dreamed it would get to a nickel...but I've extracted close to $1M to invest in other stocks so far, and the portfolio is well over $4M now. I have about $10K per month in 'real' dividends now from NSAV sales.
Again, if you go through the NSAV message board, starting in about april 2017, and click your way through into 2018, you can read the whole sordid story. And if you do, you will understand why those of us old timers are very skeptical of JT, because we have seen this before. Only THIS TIME, I have become a millionaire in spite of his tricks.
JT talks about his 'loyal shareholders' all the time. In fact, he never says it any other way.
In April 2017, JT filed about a stock dividend, and told us all that we would get one share of NSAV for every share we owned on ex-dividend day, which was in June. Many of us bought shares of NSAV - he was a new CEO and had taken over from the previous CEO, and said he wanted to do something good for his shareholders. That dividend was the beginning. There was supposed to be another one later, with the number of shares of NSAV that you owned getting you one share of hemp beer for every 17 shares of NSAV. That one never materialized.
But JT never told us that he was not going to register the shares - he said they would be restricted for a year. But it has been FOUR years, they are still not registered, and they are still restricted.
Now, consider his words to his 'loyal shareholders' again for a moment. WE ARE STILL HERE!! Why doesn't JT do as he PROMISED, YEARS AGO? Do you think anyone would have fallen for that line if he had said they would be unregistered shares that we would eventually have to buy out of purgatory? I would not have bought ONE SHARE with that proposal - he has not GIVEN us what he PROMISED to give us. He flat out lied, and still refuses to honor his own filing with the SEC. He had trouble with auditors in years past, and I now suspect these unregistered shares was at least part of that problem, and may continue to prevent a clean audit. So much for OTCQX, if he can't get an audit done properly.
From that 8K:
On April 24, 2017, the Board of Directors of Net Savings Link, Inc. declared a 10% stock dividend payable on or around June 29, 2017 to stockholders of record on June 1, 2017.
He is a flat out liar. It does not matter that I've done well with the stock after sitting on it for 4 years - a liar is a liar.
We are still waiting JT. The ball is in YOUR COURT!!
It's not MM's, they don't care what the market does. It is traders with lots of shares, taking profit. They set their limit, what you call walls. With 12B shares out, there are a LOT of shares to be sold before any significant uptick. People are up thousands of percent, so selling at this level is still big profit.
It's simple. Someone has to be selling in order for anyone to be buying. I sold a mil today for $52K. I said I'd sell when it hit a nickel again. Already bought my dividend stock with the profit.
Share price of $4, but there are also a number of other requirements.
I'm up $1.2M today...it's my best single day ever.
It has already been explained. There is no DTC chill - it is NOT REGISTERED at DTC, and your dumb brokerage doesn't understand that.
Get a brokerage like etrade and be done with the stupidity. I've been on etrade since 2008, and have even bought gray market stocks with them. They don't CARE what you want to buy - it's your money.
Not true. Just contact their TA and they will tell you how to get them. It'll take time and money but you can free them. I'm happy letting mine sit there and appreciate. 500K X .04=$20K...It'll cost about $500 to get them cleared.
It's called profit taking. My nsav is up over 6000%. I don't affect share price when I sell...always at a limit, above the current price. When it sells, it is because there is demand and the price is rising.
It's called profit taking. My nsav is up over 6000%. I don't affect share price when I sell...always at a limit, above the current price. When it sells, it is because there is demand and the price is rising.
What on earth are you talking about? Insiders would have to purchase on the open market, just like anyone else. But insiders have trading windows they must abide by, which is the 30 trading days after fins are posted. Other than that, they can't just buy company stock because they are in a quiet period, which means no trading.
Not sure why you keep mentioning a merger. NSAV is a holding company, not a shell. It owns percentages of companies to produce multiple revenue streams. Even when it owns 100% interest, it still isn't a merger candidate. NSAV COULD become a 100% owner of bitmart (unlikely) but a merger would not be part of the package.
Sheesh...you don't have to disclose the patent to disclose the energy source for recharging a battery in a vehicle.
What they have said so far is impossible. They ask you to believe. I believe what is possible, and they have not mentioned anything possible yet.
The 'proof of concept' you talk about is the problem. They have not disclosed what the energy source is to charge the batteries. Radio waves that transistor radios use aren't capable of 0-60 in 6 seconds.
So you think a delinquent stinky pinkie will suddenly be valued at $80 X 12,000,000,000, or over 3 TRILLION dollars? Might want to get that old calculator out and work backwards. Even at ONE dollar, it would be a 12 Billion valuation, bigger than many nasdaq and NYSE companies.
Dream on...
The filings are out of HPIL's hands at this point. The filings will be posted when approved by Finra/SEC. SB has nothing to do with it at this point, except to call them from time to time.
SB never promised anything - thousands of companies that are delinquent are trying to get current, as well as the filings from all the companies that are not delinquent - I assume they are priority if not delinquent.
Those dividend shares are not registered and are restricted. It will cost you time and money to get them registered and freed. Contact the TA for forms. I think it costs around $500. So much for 'free' shares from NSAV...
I'm going to wait until the share price is 'up there' before I bother. I have 500K of those shares.
My 401K was $59K in 2008, when I was laid off, never to find work again. I converted it to an IRA at Etrade. It's now worth north of $2.7M. And no taxes until I withdraw cash. This year it looks like I'll have to take about $135K, IF it doesn't appreciate any more. The taxes will simply be the same as wages - no capital gains, etc.
Went to a family picnic in a nearby park, and found myself up over $500K at close. Way to end a Friday. (And my partner is up $250K, so $750K for us today...)
Even so, it is not at a selling point yet, but it's getting close.
I think it was TG Private Equity. They were first, and they provide liquidity. If they bought up billions of shares in trips, they have already accomplished their profit, and the whole point of this company, which we own 50% of, was to fund growth. They also own 500M preferred shares.
From Feb:
“TG Private Equity Inc. a major Hong Kong private equity firm which will help the Company complete its mission to up list its shares to the premium OTCQB tier the QTCQX.”
That is silly. They will be working the ones that filed the earliest, and so on.
Filings for public companies are sequential. Each one contains what the previous one had, plus new stuff. You can't skip any of them, so there are either 20 to process, or the Filing to stop reporting may have an affect. I don't think so, but it was filed for some reason.
There are thousands of companies that aren't current. It isn't just one. There is a TON of work to get them all current, that want to be current.
Nobody is shorting this stock. It would not make financial sense in the first place, to short a stock that is about to take off. Shorting is BETTING that the price will decrease.
You can't short this stock anyway - your brokerage won't permit it. And, you'd have to put up $2.50 PER SHARE that you wanted to short, so to short 1 million shares, you'd have to put up $2.5 million in your margin account, and then PRAY the stock doesn't go up. Frankly, I have better things to do with my cash than put it into a margin account so I can make a couple hundred dollars IF and ONLY IF the stock drops. But again, some people believe anything, even if it makes complete nonsense.
Not quite right...the AS is changed by the company itself, in its articles of incorporation. It has been reduced, officially. OTCM only gets updated when HPIL updates it, and they are likely waiting for all the filings to become current instead of updating the reported AS.
Don't rely on OTCM to display correct information. It is only updated when the company updates it. To see the correct AS, look at the SOS for the company, which is the ONLY official numbers.
Nite has nothing to do with it, nor does any other MM.
Each MM has a spread. If you do a sell order within their bid, they HAVE to buy them. If you do a buy order within their offer, they HAVE to sell them to you. THAT IS IT.
The money made by MM's is the difference between what they buy them for (the bid) and what they sell them for (the offer).
It makes no difference at all whether the share price is increasing or decreasing. They get their spread on both ends. They aren't traders, and don't give a whit what the share price is doing. The ONLY thing an MM doesn't care for is when no one is buying or selling - then THEY must buy/sell AMONG THEMSELVES. That is why they are called 'market makers'...they keep the market from going stagnant. They literally 'make a market' in companies that are not otherwise trading.
All these walls everyone talks about? Those are shareholders. They can put out a sell order for, say, 50M shares at a limit, and the share price will NOT exceed that point until/unless that order is filled. Yes, your friendly shareholders that have hundreds of millions of shares bought in trips control the price. Hell, I can do it in companies in which I have over 100M trips.
When you see the share price dropping, it is because some idiot is selling at market. At market tells the MM that they will accept anything for their shares. Immediately, the spread is adjusted down and the price starts dropping because the seller is getting less and less money in each tranch.
So, yes, there is manipulation, but it's not by MM's who don't care what a company's share price is. It is shareholders that are controlling the price by their large buy/sell orders. If MM's read this message board, they would crack up - everyone blames everything but the one thing that is happening - whales doing their thing.
The filings with Finra do not get uploaded to OTCMarkets until Finra.SEC accepts them. THEN they are uploaded to OCTM. THEN, ORCM will lift the stop. Can't get the cart in front of the horse here. The ball in in Finra/SEC's court for now until they are ALL approved.
Apparently you didn't read it. That nuclear waste IS an energy source. As I understand it, it is the waste radiated carbon that is used, and the radiation from it lasts thousands of years. It is highly compressed into diamond form. I realize you are being facetious, but it is at least feasible, and doesn't violate physical laws.
It is not a perpetual energy scheme, but it does last thousands of years, which should be enough for the average driver.
About the noteholders. They don't want stock, their business is lending money. As soon as a note converts to stock, the noteholders ALWAYS immediately dump it on the market, so they don't LOSE money by waiting. At that point, supply exceeds demand, and the price drops. It ALWAYS happens that way, and they know it.
So when you see the market going down, as it is now, and we KNOW a note has converted, then you also know there is more supply than demand, and in order for the noteholder to liquidate, they will take less and less for their shares. That is why the noteholder terms are so good - they get the shares well below market, and sell at market, and end up with their original cash back plus some profit, while we sit here and lose money.
The problem is that noteholders don't give a shit about the stock, and companies that use convertible notes to do business nearly always convert their notes, because they don't make enough money to keep the doors open - thus borrowing, and they generally can't pay the notes off except by converting to shares.
We are told there are no notes left, so that's good. But if HPIL can't keep the doors open without a cash infusion, another note could be in the future. Some of these plays must start paying off, just to stay in business. I know the CEO has deep pockets, but even he can only infuse money into the company by 'loaning' it officially.
Read this:
Nuclear Battery
This is called a 'microreactor'. Imagine it scaled down a few hundred more percent to power a vehicle. Or even better, sized to power homes. Imagine no need for power lines to homes.
Then, there is this from nuclear waste:
Nuclear Waste Battery
This may be more feasible in the near future.
Lastly, an EV that burns gas/diesel/propane or whatever whose ONLY job is to run an alternator to charge batteries.
That is feasible now.
But as can be seen, these are all energy sources, which is the only way a battery can 'recharge itself'. It can't recharge from energy it has already used.
She's pretty happy. She was living only on her SS before we met, and had a small IRA and a few other stocks. Now she's worth well over $1M and everything is paid off. "She ain't goin nowhere"!
I bought my partner 100M at .0002...she's set for life now. Still has 40M left.
Has a new car, all bills paid off, and about $5k in dividends coming in per month. Her SS is less then $2K, so she's all set.
If you buy/sell at a limit, MM's will fill what they can, based on their spread. They can CHANGE their spread at any time, but they must do all business within their posted spread.
I don't claim to know why they filled that way, but I can see them, and they are ALL identical - 99,000 each. My real point is that when looking at L2, you are seeing tranches, not full orders.
What I have constantly said is that there has to be an energy source. I have also said they have not disclosed what the energy source is. I even said there is a possible energy source using nuclear waste, which actually IS a possible energy source that could keep a battery charged for hundreds or thousands of years.
Again, all I have said is that there has to be a separate energy source to charge the batteries, because you can't put back what has already been used to move a car.
No, I didn't get them at that price, that's what they dropped to after I had them. We can't buy at 5 decimals, but that's exactly what MM's do, and it's where their spread operates. The published spread is what we can buy/sell at, but you'll never see a 5 decimal ask/bid.
For those wondering about those 99,000 orders...
I bought a few million HPIL today at a limit. I get them in 13 sets of 99,000. One order, 13 fills. L2 can't 'see' my order, because it was not AON. All L2 sees is the individual tranches, no matter how many it takes to fill an order. If you watch long enough, you'll see an 'order' for 1 share, which I actually got in an order long ago. 999,999 and 1. L2 would show both of those, but not the million I ordered.
No, that is not possible, if the batteries moved the car in the first place. Energy is lost in every process, including recharging. The lost energy cannot be replaced unless you have another energy source. Now, if a car has regenerative charging, and is coasting downhill, 'some' energy could be extracted from the kinetic energy of the car, but that's from gravity, which in that case is the primary energy source.
Not on the level or uphill.
None of these schemes any of you dream up will work, it goes against the laws of physics. You are all talking about a perpetual energy machine, which is simply not possible.
As I have said before, we have not been told what the primary energy source is, and at least I know there has to be one, so all these guesses are meaningless, and NONE of them can possibly be correct.
You can't charge a battery with the energy taken out of it, and you can't put the light back into a flashlight.
Some things are simply impossible.