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I'm with you dude.
Someday maybe we'll be stupid rich.
For now we'll have to settle for stupid.
That's halfway there, right?
I'm not biting. Waitin' for my .0011's
You're very elliptical.
I don't know what you're talking about. The spread to which I was referring changed as soon as the bell.
And it's just false that with a large spread you'd see trades. Such a spread is a deterrent, not a catalyst.
What are you talking about?
I sure felt a lot better with that enormous bid sitting down there. Where did that go?
I don't know what that means.
What the heck is going on with this spread/gap ?
I'd really like another day here before we move. (Sigh)
Lies?????
What is with the wanton use of that accusation on this board? You're ridiculous.
Are you asserting that we did NOT just get 15 mill shares added?
So many of the new folks on this board are not worth the time it takes to type to them.
That said...
You can do it TIVU.
So now, in addition to calling Shiva a liar (though refusing to state explicitly what lie you're accusing him of), you're calling me a liar too?
Nice.
For what my narrative/opinion is worth (little, no doubt), I'll offer/update it here.
I'm a long. I've been around since real early in the year, i.e. before the previous CC where the Host MOU was announced.
I've originally got in around .03/.04, and have thus lost a lot of money.
But no one took it from me. I'm frustrated with my naivety, but I'm fighting the temptation to let that turn into hatred/jealousy/etc.
This is a gamble. Not in the sense that it is 'gambling,' i.e. in the frivolous sense, but insofar as its investment in an venture that might fail.
I put my money up. No one took it out of my pocket.
I'm frustrated.
But I also see reason to continue on here. Leftists run the economic show right now, and they've destroyed the credit markets. If the only way TIVU can get the money they need is in the manner that is hurting us longs right now, then it is what it is.
We could all get burned real bad here. But you knew that from the beginning. And if you didn't, you shouldn't have put your money up, and neither should I have.
I don't have near the financial/market savvy that many of our longs here have displayed. But from a common sense standpoint, I understand that a company has to fund their operations.
I'm holding out. If you're not, sell me your shares next Friday.
So you're not willing then to tell us what specifically the lie was that Shiva told?
Why not?
Why don't you append the specific lie you have in mind to your accusation.
No it is not.
No one has stolen from you. You gambled your money. And on top of that, September is not over. Yet even if it comes and goes, you've not been 'stolen' from. Do not distort language. It's dangerous. And judging by your avatar, you should know better.
Good God.
I can't even imagine.
I ought not to even try.
That's sick.
I almost missed it ID, and was about to ask you to repost cause I wanted to hear your thoughts.
Never mind.
Bell weather.
Nonetheless. Can't do anything but watch now.
Correlation is not causation.
Boom. Back up to 250K.
Got .0022's today. So I don't know why it says the low was .0023! =)
R3, you're makin' me crazy man.
Good luck everyone.
Nic.
Tryin' to pick up 70K today.
You complainers should probably just sell me your shares and duck out. Deal?
=)
Now there's six, but they're clearly three sets of duplicates.
iHub having problems, must be.
I swear it said 2 buys and 2 sells a minute ago. The last transaction was red. Now the last one's green and there's only three.
Am I wiggin' out?
A moment ago my L2 listed 4 trades for the day... now suddenly there are 3. What the hell?
You're missing the point -- several of them in fact. Read Wagg's post.
QS's shares are restricted.
Good words Wagg.
Yeah perhaps 'gullible' was the wrong choice of terms. But I'm nonetheless of the mind that people are ultimately responsible for what they do with their money. Sharks or not.
And I say this as someone who has made some ridiculously amateurish and uninformed mistakes.
So what's wrong with thinking in the following manner?
At a superficial glance, TIVUS may look like so many other fake/phony pinkie companies that really only turn out to be a sort of mechanism for profiting by selling increasingly diluted stock to gullible investors. But it doesn't follow that this is what TIVUS is. It only looks that way at this point because those same financial methods are being deployed in order to raise necessary capital in a tough economic/credit market. The difference is that Tivus is actually selling/installing a real product that there - apparently - is an increasing interest demand for. Thus, at some point down the line, the indiscernibility (i.e. between real and fake, scam and legitimacy) will lessen significantly.
In brief, that a very real company with bright prospects has to resort to undesirable financing methods in order to get off the ground does not imply that said company is a illegit, simply in virtue of the fact that illegiet companies use those same methods.
What's wrong with this?
Perhaps I'm being too optimistic. But the above seems perfectly reasonable. Add to this what we already know about the credit markets right now, as well as what we know about the REAL, TANGIBLE moves Tivus is making... and I'm going hold off on the pessimism for the time being.
Host is signing a contract with them. They've hinted there are more in the works. The technology is real, and installed.
What do you suppose is the reason they tend not to hold their price? I mean if it's simply a re-arranging of the share structure and price, and (theoretically) keeps the dollar value the same, then why (practically) is the value affected, as you say?
I don't really understand what a reverse split is.
Just put it through the standard "logic of conditional statements" gauntlet, along with some analysis of the varying senses of "phony," in tandem with other hard data about Tivus's business dealings.
You can do it.
Yup. This is why I've set myself a date far in the future by which I'd like something to have come of this.
In the meantime, working two jobs, and buying a little here and there.
That's a pretty ridiculous statement.
The critique is too obvious to make, and I don't have the time. Take care dude.
I've been far outside the info-loop/drama for quite a while now. Workin' on other stuff.
But we were told we'd get a PR about the Marriott contract, because - we were told - there IS a contract, right?
So what's the worry?
I take it that it's only the new folks (i.e. not the core longs) that are sweating this, right?
I'm looking forward to the announcement. Tivus is slow, not phony.
I can't help but wonder what the scope of the Host contract is.
I haven't listened to that last CC yet. I wonder if there's any hint there?
Good luck everyone.
Slowly but surely, building up my position again.
Closing in on 200k here.
I'll be back for more in a week or so.
Good luck everyone.
For two days in a row I've caught the low of the day.
Gonna go three for three tomorrow!
GLTA
Hmmm... What to do, what to do.
Yeah I feel you man.
But honestly, I've got a new attitude about this stock.
It has kicked my ASS in the past. I lost a lot due to inexperience and lack of discernment, on top of the TIVUS public relations phenomenon.
But I am back in now, and slowly building up my position again.
When I look at where this country is at economically because of all the foolishness going on, it doesn't surprise me that a start-up like this should have such a rocky start. I don't know a lot about business, but I have an uncle who is an EXTREMELY accomplished businessman, with a VERY successful company that he started. And lately, he has to fight TOOTH AND NAIL to secure the credit that he needs to carry out projects on a regular basis.
So my thinking about TIVUS is much more relaxed. I've given myself a date, far in the future, by which I hope something has come of all this. And until then, I'm just working my ass off and accumulating as I'm able.
It has been a very humbling experience. I'm going to stick with it now, and just keep trusting some of the big indicators that have always kept us longs coming back.
I remember that CC way earlier this year where the MOU was announced with a big "IF" on actualizing in to a contract. Now here we are with a contract, and more Marriotts on board.
I'm looking a year down the road.
I already know both are true. =)
Wait, what's the point?
... that the contract is a reality?
... or that TIVUS is slow as hell?