another great point to this situation is that there's no chance for dilution! Think about how many times a promising story has been crushed by poor company decisions lately. With any of the LEH's, there are no worries in that department.

precisely.

from that, only one of two things are likely to happen.

1.) This small-time dilution stops at 900Mil shares and the remaining 600 goes to the lender. (I hope it's this one)

2.) QASP continues to sell shares, and then has to increase the A/S to accommodate the necessary 40% of the O/S that has to go to the lender. (I hope it isn't this one)



...we're about to find out very soon.

how does the former make sense? what lender would give out a 350million in cash loan for a percentage of shares in a company and not make sure that their percentage is protected? If 40% of the (at that time) O/S was agreed upon, nothing would keep the lender from having their stake diluted into oblivion. Surely this isn't even disputable.

alright Manti, I don't disagree with those things.

But what happens if the O/S goes to 901Mil shares? What then? How can that be rationalized and worked through to accommodate the supposed terms of the loan without increasing the A/S again?

I'm eager to hear your thoughts on that one. The number is very quickly approaching.

used to be the end of February, before that the end of January, before that the end of December, before that the end of November, before that...

sold all my GQs for .09 today and used all the cash to buy JQs at .075 :)

All in all, a solid day for me.

hopfully you are right catdaddy, even if it did go down there, i don't have the cash to buy more..... might as well move on up from here!

guess that means we'll test the damned blue dotted line. it's unreal how the negative in his charts always ends up "coming true"

the thing is, look back to the days in september when the "buyback" was supposed to start. This was trading in the .02s. At that time, to the liking of the bashers (at this point), there was certainly more investor confidence than there is now....


...and then a little dilution...


from here to then, not much has changed. The only thing that HAS changed, is that some people, likely with big pockets, have been able to scoop up shares from the non-believers. If there were delays to the original plan (which means the original plan has not changed!) then the tradeable float is now so much smaller than it was at that time. For those people "in the know" this was merely a time to feed on the weak.


What happens if all of sudden the results are revealed and they are just like they should have been in September, or even better? (take into account the fact that Tigerfish and Mineseeker have been acquired and who knows what else was never a thought in those days). All of a sudden we're in the same scenerio as back then, but now shares are much harder to come by....

This is why I've held, and plan to be greatly rewarded.

if this story is real, and "some big pockets" know it is and are accumulating, kiss .015s goodbye. Time is running out.

looks like they're taking it down in 5k share blocks.

????

interesting end to your post bigdogs, are you referencing some sort of 9 steps to a stock rushing up in price?


where can I read up?

Banker, if I'm off base here, please tell me where my error is.


If there is 100m+ in excess funds from this loan, and the last second to last Press Release suggests that some of this loan has already been received,

why has HDSN been on the ask for the last two days? Surely some sort of negotiation could be settled where an exchange of funds for "whatever the sum of money is that they are selling these shares for" could be made AFTER these excess 100M funds were secured. Why sell these shares for peanuts when they will supposedly be worth so much in the immediate future?

lol how nice for you. come in! join our (hopefully temporary) misery.

then why does HDSN show up every day the OS increases.

i'll be gone if that happens, but I don't suspect that it will.

are we sure that the 9% applies here anymore? What if the terms were renegotiated and now currently sit at the just-announced 40%.

the only argument i have against the points you have made....

is why is HDSN only on the ask in spurts during/after the O/S has gone up.


Why did they lurk in the shadows for weeks, only to appear the day after the A/S increase (which allowed for an O/S increase).


I don't have the answer to that one, just an observation. Maybe they're just shorting the hell out of the company and they will pay in the long run, who knows.

that's a bigger change than the volume we saw yesterday....

a hell of a lot better than my average price and i own many more shares than you.

Dean's done a geat f*****g job of rewarding the faithful shareholders who have been here a long time thus far, that's for sure.


Hopefully better things are to come.

HDSN gone :)

do you know that specific date?

it's here plain as day. dilution.

that is the one thing i am unsure of about todays movement.

It was pretty much universally decided that HDSN was doing the selling last time..... are they doing it through NITE/ETMM now or is this mostly small people selling?

that's BS and you know it. There are two reasons that the O/S is going up in small chunks right now.

1.) This is a scam.
2.) The shares are being issued as restricted to companies involved in acquisitions.

If a part of the 350 million is secured, there is NO reason to dillute to fund day to day operations. That doesn't make sense to me.

If anyone thinks I'm wrong and can explain, go ahead.

just glorious.

O/S for yesterday? anyone?

boatman you had such a great opportunity to get shares yesterday, why are you doing this NOW? there should be no need.

As long as HSDN(DS) is off the ask, I don't care what the price is today.

I don't think that's the case. I think people are waiting to see if the O/S goes up tomorrow. Coincidence that the A/S is increased the day before a "big" PR? I hope so.

now the question is.....


will the O/S change over the course of the day.

can someone post L2? thank you

Where is Hudson on L2?

part of the theory behind the initial additions to the O/S were that shares were being issued as restricted to people involved with the companies of the acquisitions. Perhaps he's leaving some available shares for future acquisitions as well...... leaving the door open to possibility so to speak. that's my theory.

thanks for the compliment, .0174 :) .... First good play i've made in a long time.

i feel like i've heard that number somewhere....

newb question, maybe, but WHY do they have to be restricted?

wonder where all the pumpers went. What happened to LaryBaby? She pulled the same crap with the stock 'FIND'.


She sure was right, Dean dropped a BOMB on us.

oh yeah, Banker? You buying here?

I believed, maybe still do, but facts are facts and right now we have no acquisitions and an increased A/S.