Cowboy, you are holding this sub-penny to the same standards to that of an S&P 500 Co. Maybe their management is more concerned with bringing true shareholder value to the table, instead of appeasing flippers. (True shareholder value = 2-5 year outlook)

And the convertible is what it is, but I don't think Sandy should be apologizing for trying to grow the business thru equity financing. THIS IS A SUB-PENNY STOCK COWBOY...cash is not a luxury at this stage.

Cowboy, please share what you are basing your opinion on. It seems to have little backing to it. Sounds very logical that if they announced US carriage and potential revenue streams that would put their valuation into the pennies that the stock wouldn't budge....just because Cowboy said so.

Thanks guys. Just wanted to throw that out there to show the non-believers that BKMP becoming a true penny + stock is not far fetched, but rather pretty easily attainable once the U.S. carriage is complete. The PPV revenue and advertising dollars will easily surpass the subscriber revenues. And that is assuming that they operate on a 30% margin, which I see as low for their business. Now the market doesn't always value stocks based of of the EPS, but then again, penny stocks are a whole different animal. Shear momentum alone will carry this baby to the pennies before those revenue number are even made public

The following is some analysis assuming they can get 7.5M subscribers at 2.95 per month:

TFN
Subscribers 7,500,000
Annual Fee @ 2.95 p month - $35.4 p year
Subscriber Revenue $265,500,000

Expense @ 70% of Op. Rev $185,850,000

Income $79,650,000



Blackout Media Minority Interest $15,930,000
Outstanding Shares 3,500,000,000
EPS 0.00455
Est. PPS (multiple of 12) $0.0546

And this is excluding all advertising, PPV, etc..

Pennpicks - I like where your mind is now. They would be perfect for the party! We should also have somebody like Rich Franklin stop in as a guest speaker. That would cap the night.

Does anybody have information regarding the margins that such a business would realize thru operations?

Enough is enough with these impatient investors who gripe on here about how slow it is taking this stock to explode. If you invest 1k at these levels, and it takes 18 months to reach .05, then you have just made a capital gain of 124k in less than 2 years, not that bad of an ROI if you ask me.

RU - Can we invite her to the .05 shareholder party?

Most f'ed up stock in the history of the stock market? Guess he never heard of lucent. Just goes to show that some people on this board are speaking from anger & greed rather than rationilization.

Cowboycadillac - If that is your definition of phony, a sub-penny stock growing thru acquisition and leveraging authorized shares to do so, than I say "WOW". Please find a valid reason to call them phony before coming onto a message board...it only makes you look foolish.

I agree. That one was quite humorous. You could just hear his frustration jumping off the page.

Rasica - You are a wealth of knowledge. Nice analysis

I may be too busy diversifying my newfound networth in the spring-time...summer seems to be a good compromise.

Anybody who is complaining because this stock hasn't moved in a week just doesn't know investing. I guess 90% of the stocks on the NYSE are POS's because they sit idle 90% of the time. Damn POS blue chip stocks....you are all supposed to climb 4000% every day so I can turn my 100 bucks into one million by Christmas. Get real people. Don't invest if you don't A) Have patience B) Know what you are doing

RU - I think we are safe if we start planning the party for the end of October. Your thoughts?

Everybody has to get back on track. Tha market valuation of a stock isn't something that can be predicted, only anticipated. Trying to add timing to that only makes the process even that much more difficult. Throw in the fact that this is a pinkie makes it incredibly difficult to expect movement at any given time. If you are a flipper, this is how you play the game. If you are long in this stock, which most of us are, than you break it down to fundamental anylysis of a companys future revenue streams and share structure combining to create shareholder value. If BKMP will morph into what we think it will, the shareholder value will follow, but not in any specific sequence. A massive PR can be followed up with very little movement in PPS, only to be ingnited by some other filing or PR down the road. Or the massive PR we have been waiting for can be the beginning of the run. The point is that we can't all hang our hats on any one event, and more so, cannot live or die with each days trading patterns. BKMP is still incubating at this point. It will hatch when it hatches.

Let's all help this ball get rolling by digging deep and buying above the ask right out of the game tomorrow. Create some momentum

Because the only way to go ownership in TFN is thru BKMP.

As investors, we cannot forget that we have a real product here that has great potential. The success of TFN is very attainable given the rise in popularity of this market, and its target demographics willingness to spend. Many pennies have suspect product lines, weak patents or crowded markets. We have a company that has a minority interest in a very well situated product, not to mention the Wagering Network which taps into another booming market of gambling, poker, etc. The real problem has been people over-hyping a run that only leads to dissapointment and impatience when it doesn't materialize. Share structure will influence the PPS here, but it won't fully drive it. If TFN goes live in the US, and gets a XM/Sirius deal, it won't matter how many O/S there are. Patience, patience, patience....and more patience.

I think if everyone emailed Sandy today demanding to know what the share structure is, we would likely get our answer. A few weak hands alone won't get a response.

While I didn't expect a big run from this news today, I am still dissapointed that we couldn't at least gain a few upticks on the nice volume. This stock definitely trades against the grain

This doesn't seem like enough to start a run, but could be good for volume and could put us near .001 and ready for the U.S. carrier news. Then the pop

Sandy could make the best use of capital by doing a buy-back at these levels. 100k would buy back 250M right now, whereas the same 250M would cost 2.5 x's that when we reach .001. That is if their cash position is strong enough though, which is always tight in these stages of development.

This is a classic case of silence causing tension. Nothing has changed over the past two weeks, however, the mood on this board has went from people deciding how they were going to spend their newfound millions, to now people rubbing two dimes together hoping to break even. The only difference as of late is the questioning of the share structure which has been questioned for months, and to the best of our knowledge as investors the O/S is under 3B.

And for months now we have known that the MM's were playing multiple games with the share price. But yet we are allowing these meaningless drops to now cause panic. Why would we expect to explode now with no news? We won't. We will just move with the eb and flow of the MM's until the bigtime pr's arrive. The smartest investors have a vision of where their investments will eventually go, but also are realistic about their current enviornment.

I agree. We cannot live and die with every up or down-tick.

If the share structure is within the 2.5B range, I am very confident and will load up on my position. If it is not, I may consider finding another investment for my money. I just sent Sandy an email and hopefully I worded it in a way that gets a real response. I will share if he replies.

Amazing how much the general atmosphere has changed since ten days ago. Everyone was full of enthusiasm then....now, we are seeing an .0005 bid as good news.

I think we all just need to sit tight until another PR is issued. The US carrier news is really the only thing that will catipault us.

Is Sandy's email SWinick@yahoo.com?

RU, I hope you are right. I am waiting for that party you promised when this gets into the pennies. BYOB of course

Bigdannyboy-Had the email address

BigDannyBoy - Your last PM to me was deleted before I could read. Can you resend?

MiMurray - Did I ask him specifically for that info? He could just disregard the post. And the last time I got Sandy's info from a random post it came back undeliverable.

And why am I going to search for the O/S number on this site when there have been 10 different #'s posted here in the last week? What confidence does that give me as an investor?

If I am too lazy?? I think Matt and and RU should definitely look at your posts and give you some feedback that you should have gotten in the first grade. Personal attacks get nothing accomplished. I've done my due diligence, but i've also seen O/S numbers tossed around too frequently to have confindence in any one number. I'm sorry if I am not like you and cannot have blind faith in one man's story over another. And please don't tell me that you have this share structure figured out, because that would be misleading to everyone on this board. You believe you do, but do not know anything for sure. Due diligence is searching a message board where some pumpers / bashers come to play???? Ok...sure

Analyze- I've always respected your posts because you often have intelligent insight to add. However, what business is it of yours whether or not I pay for this site or not? Are you getting a kickback? Anyway, if you are sick of hearing about the O/S, or are sick of people like myself emailing Sandy about it, just let your post be about that. I'm fine with that. But the moment you start telling people that they aren't of the same cloth as you because you subscribe to this site, that is when you begin to lose some credibility.

Can somebody please post a valid email address for Sandy? I want to shoot him an email that can hopefully end these back and forth discussions, because if this stock is truely in the 12B+ range, we are all on the wrong ship

Jonah - Good find! While it is not a direct comparison, I think you will be hard pressed to find a pure play for TFN. Guessing the ad revenue would be much more prevelant for TFN as well

Jonah - I would have to think that their #1 controllable would be marketing expense, and lighter on the operating. I think 30% is still conservative. I'll try to find some industry averages to compare against. Either way you look at it, the potential PPS even without the PPV & ad revenues show the enormous potential here.

I guess I was being too agressive with their margins, however, 30% is definitely not out of the question. I don't see how we only get 13% drop thru

Actually, I was looking at one months worth of revenue. The annualized subscriber revenue would be:

TFN
Subscribers 7,500,000
Fee 35.4
Subscriber Revenue $265,500,000

Expense @ 30% of Op. Rev $79,650,000

Income $185,850,000



Blackout Media Minority Interest $37,170,000
Outstanding Shares 2,500,000,000
EPS 0.01487
Est. PPS (x'er of 12) $0.1784

Just some numbers I was playing around with based off of a subscriber base of 7.5M (which seems high?)


TFN
Subscribers 7,500,000
Fee 2.95
Subscriber Revenue $22,125,000

Expense @ 30% of Op. Rev $6,637,500

Income $15,487,500



Blackout Media Minority Interest $3,097,500
Outstanding Shares 2,500,000,000
EPS 0.00124
Est. PPS (x'er of 12) $0.0149

Just hope the volume on the run is strong enough to support the sell-off

I think the toughest questions are going to come as this baby starts its climb up to .001, then .01 and so on, and we are left asking ourselves if we should sell and take massive profits, or holdout for the golden ticket