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I can say it three times fast.
That PR machine was flying off the hook. Its all there in the IBox. $5 million here! $6 million there! $85 million altogether!!! Companies being acquired by the handful (remember the press on "our" Voiplabs lmao). Infrastructure being laid everywhere.
Then, the SEC gets involved (with good cause, imo), and Paul Taylor can't get out of the country quick enough. The PR gets stopped for good and the company is loathe to even HINT that they have any real business operations going.
Wow. That's a hell of a lot of potential to just disappear into the night air. too ridiculous.
Even taking the high estimate, 3.3 billion... dividing by 2975 = 1,100,000. Not 1,350,000. 250k still came out of nowhere in the past few weeks.
These boys are great at selling shares. Not good at selling much else, but GREAT at selling shares.
On January 6th, the company confirmed 32,127,000 shares outstanding
http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=conewsstory&refer=conews&tkr=TLTA:US&sid=afngRm....
adjusted for splits that's 428,000.
Current OS =1,350,000
In 8 months, the OS more than tripled.
In the same 8 months, the "majority" of all revenues were removed from the company.
And management claims to be battling naked shorts! What a great strategy. Slowly flood the market with shares, bleed every last dollar from anyone who's willing to buy, and then, of course, completely devalue the company. Brilliant. Paul sure nailed 'em good.
what do you mean its 'about' right?
last time I talked to Madison was the end of July, after Global had been acquired. The count was 2.95 billion. after 2975:1, there should be 1 million shares. But instead its 1.35 million. They diluted us by %33 in just the past month or two. This is after they already diluted us %33 in exchange for "Global Interactive" which is not a real company as far as I can tell.
As for the "public" float. In a stock like this, who cares?...the other shares in the OS can just as easily be sold by the "insiders" that hold them as they could if they were in the hands of the public.
Watch what?
Watch the grass grow? Watch the paint dry? Watch this baby crawl back towards single pennies?
Maybe she meant watch the never-ending stream of dilution. Just called Madison Transfer. New OS is 1,350,000 shares. Hmmm, that's about 350,000 too many. Put it in perspective and that's over 1 billion shares pre-split that came out of nowhere in exchange for...nothing?
Watch management use this stock as personal bank account? Is that what we should watch?
"we were shorted into the ground, and the illegal short shares were covered this summer with no benefit to the retail SHs."
Serfy, you sound so sure of yourself, but do you really have any idea what you're talking about? How do you know the illegal shares were covered?
IMO, IF there was an outside naked short of the size that Taylor/Bloc/et al insinuated he could NEVER have legally covered in such a short period, during which fax blasts, web promos, etc. were still encouraging new buyers and the cost of commissions and deflated pps was discouraging sellers (except of course Chef who, thanks to his friendliness with PT, knew better). The only way shorty could have covered (if he existed to begin with) IMO is if those 700,000,000 shares that were issued in exchange for "Global Interactive" were created specifically for that purpose.
Think about it. 700 million shares were created and issued in exchange for another fake company. One whose only known employee is fucking Simon Shaw, Paul Taylor's ole buddy. Two weeks later, after the transaction, what happens? The ole ladder down begins with a bang. I'd bet my last dollar that those 700 mil played a BIG part in the downside pressure AND in shorty being ALLOWED to cover at such bargain basement prices. if he did cover.
"Bad news is that we may have all been played"
Ha. After you just told mama that her adjusted price is $12.86 while the pps is flatlining under $.40, after all "revenues" have been removed to a "private corporation," after Paul Taylor has run away while still no one has EVER spoken to another employee of the company, and after you claim the naked shorts have been covered but the market cap remains less than half a million...I think you can lose the "may."
I figured that'd be the case.
If these crooks are good at one thing, it's covering their asses. I'm not in a position to start a suit, but I would sure love to see it done and would throw all of my support behind it. If only to prevent Taylor from pulling this shit on future investors.
99% losses wasn't enough for this group of scumbags.
now they gotta give %99 losses to the new group that figured .0001 HAD to be the bottom. yeechh. I'm drooling for blood. British and Canadian blood. all the money I lost would be worth it to see these bastards in court. Yukondan, whaddya say. Is there a case?
let me guess. Phartloudly hijacked your e-mail account for a brief period in March as well.
you must be an atheist
because that's not what you said in March when I confronted you about that exact same post. you do keep e-mails don't you?
I SAID:
"I was worried about your intentions for a bit after I
saw this post of yours from last October:
"ONTT is another scam of Paul Taylor formerly of The
TREZAC scamm. This man gets away with cr ap becuse the
the pinkshett licsense to steal. I NOW ADMIT THAT I
STUCK UP FOR PAUL but now know the truth.The secc show
investigate this man.He's selling out all ONTT
investors and will start pumping Milagro in NOV.""
YOU SAID:
"That comment on Taylor last year is typically me. I will fight with any CEO for people who I get in as investors. I work with a group who have made many dollars by buying together we support a good stock. We ask nothing of inside inform but ask that we receive PR'S as soon as they release within 3 mins. This gives us a jump and breaks no rules, we ask of no more from a company or if a Private Placement comes up we get in on offering.
Back to Taylor we were a little disappointed and showed our displeasure all was resolved more of a misunderstanding. I trust the guy and have made a lot of money sense Dec.We thought it was Paul that screwed us it was Milagro group Urie that did."
lmfao
of course. you didn't write those posts. your dear friend did. lololololol...oh...lololol.....mercy.
what a fantastic explanation. you know, Chef, I hear Canada has wonderful elder-care program. perhaps you should consider it.
Yes. I mean, I know the "forward-looking statement" blanket gives companies a shitload of cover, but enough to allow for such massive "mis-predictions" of revenue? off by %95 if, say, we have $5 million in revs for '05 left. I doubt they even have that.
What an intriguing question.
Hmm, I wonder what her reply will be?
Ooh, I know. A snappy ambiguous one-liner that doesn't really say anything.
Then Chef was "won over," and has since been working overtime as Paul's biggest fluffer. The man can no longer do ANY wrong in his eyes. Enormous investor losses are not the fault of the man who, in Chef's own words, "pumped" this POS on the public with its fake IPXes contracts (imo). Instead, mysterious malevolent traders are to blame, not the seeming complete absence of any real business operations and management's incompetance. no, of course not
Indeed.
I thought you all already knew about those messages.
give it a rest, old timer. will you?
when can we look forward to the vindictive side of your personality again?
ONTT (Ontus Telecommunications) Forum
SUBJECT: THE TRUTH Posted By: chef263
Post Time: 10/25/04 18:14
ONTT is another scam of Paul Taylor formerly of The TREZAC scamm. This man gets away with cr ap becuse the the pinkshett licsense to steal. I NOW ADMIT THAT I STUCK UP FOR PAUL but now know the truth.The secc show investigate this man.He's selling out all ONTT investors and will start pumping Milagro in NOV.
Wow! Nice prediction, swami. Of course, you never hear inside info, right?. lmao.
THE DEFINITION OF INSANITY??
THAT's what you've got to say?
How 'bout the definition of stock fraud? You got that one handy too, Pauly?
you'd think they would get scared pulling the same scam over and over again. especially on the same stock. and this particular round with Telatinos was so blatant it absolutely blows my mind. perhaps they know no one gives a rat's ass about looking out for the little guys.
lol. that is VERY wishful thinking, imo eom
i put it at more like 975k
2,900,000,000 / 2975 = 975,000
a tight float, but it ain't going to matter if a certain someone starts shorting into us again as soon as it happens
Holy God. 2975?
I've got a bad feeling Dzyn is right, we're all about to be raped by a Brit.
chef, nothing would please me more than to watch you and VPBH crash and burn, just like the rest of us you led into the flames on this one. good luck gramps.
5,000 shares? don't break the bank old man.
I thought you were leaving us alone.
skinny, go to your Positions page
it's there
Ha what a bunch of whiners, right, Manin?
lmao
Agreed, Yukon.
I'm upset losing money, but I can deal with it. What REALLY gets my goat though is the WAY it was lost (or conned, you might say)
"Are we incorrect about Bloc's ID"
Yes. Remember her "Live from Kinko's" report where she was perplexed to find that Meeting St. was empty and PT had moved. It is also my understanding that she is a woman. Not too clear about her relationship with PT.
Yes, she seems at a loss for words. Perhaps she was played like the rest of us.
YeeeeeeeHawwwwwww!!!!
I'm right there with ya. can't wait to hear what they got to say. don't want to jump the gun on demonizing management, but I'm just feeling ooh a teensy weensy bit pessimistic. lol. who knows. maybe they finally got something real going and maybe they bought a dictionary. guess we'll find out soon. i'm not holding my breath.
lol, Serf. what timing, eh?
looks like they're all gone. EVEN, Ziggy, Chef, Bloc, Phart. Just me you and the mushrooms remain.
this whole ordeal has been pretty sickening. lesson learned.
don't trust Brits. don't trust Canadians. lol
Wretch.
1:975 RS. lmfao. and of course Chef knows about it well before anyone else. these boys sure know how to stick it to shorty. doing an absolutely bang up job. lol. this was a con job from day one.
Zigmonia?
Bloctrade?
C'mon boys and girl. time to fess up.
Hey, Ziggy, I'll venture a guess.
"THEY WILL NEVER 'MARKET" COVER IMO, unless of course .....well there is really only one way to nail this properly
any guesses ?"
Ummm...my wild guess...how about building a real, viable, money-making business? That's how I would fuck 'em over.
But, that sure as hell doesn't seem to be happening here. What, is there another way?
how come we never read your encouraging words anymore?
"Never a better time to buy, yes?"
The better time to buy was in November or early January on inside information like some of the posters here. Other than that, its been nothing but murder for public investors.
Now with Chef mumbling about RSs, I would tread with caution. Management might not be quite done bleeding the common investor dry.
imo, PT companies are to be avoided like the Bubonic plague. The man is a snake oil salesman. plain and simple. how long does he deserve to prove otherwise?
"What do you think if a RS or retire as you say, will this help TLND?"
Umm, he didn't mention a RS.
YOU just did. Not getting information before the rest of us again, are you?
A RS would be the absolute worst news possible, imo. A complete FU to all current shareholders followed by an attempt to do the same thing to a new group. It would be an absolute admission by management that they've been totally FOS the past 9 months and they really are the low-down penny-pumping scum they have been accused of being.
"I never hear you complaint about the EVENS>CURIOUS GIRL> MANIA JAM> PHARTLOUSLY"
lol. all those boys have been about %100 abso-friggin-lutely SPOT ON with their comments and predictions about this stock, this company, and its "management." ... unlike some people.
seems like those fellas (maninfla excluded?) make a nice living picking out the most blatant scams on the pinkies and shorting the hell out 'em. Well, they sure seem to have NAILED this one. Turned out to be a simply GEORGEOUS short since the end of December. The "company" doesn't even put up a fight. looks like they stopped even PRETENDING to be running a business.
SUBJECT: tlnd off short list!!!! Posted By: PhartLoudly
Post Time: 8/15/05 01:16
NOW it's put up or shut up time for a certain set of black hat shysters!! These penny-ante penny-stock prevaricating perpetrators has said all along it's the shorts that have hammered this peaach down--they've called for a "short squeeze" and promised HUGE profits when it occurs. One of their more novel idears was the innovatively named "ACID BATH" that was gonna separate the goats from the sheep. Well, folks, the black hat bad guys are OUT OF BULLETS! I perdict the sheriff will be siccing the dogs on 'em--agin--fust thang tomorry morning! Remember folks "SLEEP TIGHT--YUR SHERIFF IS WIDE AWAKE"
everyone saw we're off the sho list right?
http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/aspx/regsho.aspx
makes it more difficult to blame the mystery boys. not impossible I suppose, but difficult.
welcome to the cellar.
it's official. whaddya say, boys? I think we've about given this pos enough time. about time to seek revenge. I'm working on my Telatinos Book of Lies and Misrepresentations. Started off as a short essay, turning into a full-fledged novel. I've been waiting for a reverse split to publish (i.e. bombard the higher-ups with copies), but being trapped in the cellar seems about as bad. anybody got an opinion. seems our Captain has abandoned us and we've been left in the hands of the lamest, shadiest, off-shore Costa Rican management one could have hoped for. moreso it seems that EVERY SINGLE WORD of nearly EVERY SINGLE PR was either a straight up lie, a cut & paste, or intentionally misleading, and NOT A SINGLE promise has been fulfilled. even moreso, our strategy for "battling" the mysterious shorts has been one of complete and utter silence and submission. very convincing fellas. way to stick it to 'em. don't know about ya'll but seems to me about time to throw in the towel. can't blame shorty for tearing apart an absolute POS farce of a corp, can you? gotta blame the conductor. and I ain't talking Jon Miller
www.telatinos.net
"under construction." like it matters. next up, a fake voip service with TWO dancing robots.
oh vey. what a pos. throw us dogs a bone.
Funny
The VPBH business description from Pinksheets.com
http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/company_profile.jsp?symbol=VPBH
"VoIPLabs Holdings, Inc. is an FCC licensed international and long distance communications provider with two related businesses.Telatinos operates international telecommunications routes and sells telecom capacity through wholesalers and retail distributors. IPExtreme, its wholly-owned subsidiary, sells VoIP (Voice over InternetProtocol) to SOHO and residential consumers"
...is a copy of the old business description of Ontus Telecommunications, but with "Telatinos" substituted for "Ontus Telecom" and "IPExtreme" substituted for "OntusAdvantage"...
"Ontus Telecommunications Corp. is an FCC licensed international and long distance communications provider with two related businesses.Ontus Telecom operates international telecommunications routes and sells telecom capacity through wholesalers and retail distributors. OntusAdvantage, its wholly-owned subsidiary, sells VoIP (Voice over InternetProtocol) to SOHO and residential consumers"
[from Google cache]
Tell me more about
Kentan Ltd. and Yanzu Inc.
Amigos of ML and the fine people at Compass Capital, I see.
"In the fiscal year ended December 31, 2004, the Company utilized its $10,000,000 equity line of credit from Compass Capital Inc., Kentan Ltd, Reef Holding Ltd, and T&B Associates, Inc."
http://sec.edgar-online.com/2005/04/15/0001200952-05-000342/Section6.asp
And how bout this Steven Choti? C'mon Bloc, don't bogart the goods.