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Wow, he participated in convincing outside investors/capitalists all of the debt was converted to shares and the company was going going to go bizznutz with revenues. It worked, kind of lol.
Interesting that NTEK sought his "expertise".
I think they combined the R&T and Longside suits into one suit...
Try: http://www.clerk-17th-flcourts.org/Web2/CaseSearch/Index/
Broward County Case Number: CACE13003103
Long Side Ventures LLC Plaintiff vs. Nanotech Entertainment Inc, et al Defendant
http://www.clerk-17th-flcourts.org/Web2/CaseSearch/Details/?caseid=NjQ3NjI1Mw%3d%3d-uNfIMEGKqKU%3d&caseNum=CACE13003103&category=CV
Latest updates were 10/20/15.
All documents are PUBLIC and READABLE.
Hoping some more experienced legal minds can help us make sense of the details, where we are currently in the legal process and what the future implications of this are?
I know NTEK issued "convertible debentures" to Long Side Ventures (R&T Sports Marketing) back in 2013, still browsing the documents myself. Looks like NTEK is attempting to draw this out as long as possible..
Huh, fraudster R Gordon Jones is the accountant on ntek's 9/30/13 disclosure. Auditor: Sadler Gibbs
This goes waaaay back. You mean to tell me that even the fraudster couldn't find a way to release fraudulent financials since 2013 lol? Even ntek's fraudster accountant and latest auditor R Gordon Jones is incompetent.
https://www.otciq.com/otciq/ajax/showFinancialReportById.pdf?id=113670
2 months later, the SEC brought Mr. Jones to court: https://www.sec.gov/litigation/complaints/2013/comp22875.pdf
AND NTEK MADE THIS GUY THEIR AUDITOR AFTER ALL OF THIS!!!!
Yes, the Notice of Case Management Conference was recently filed with the Superior Court of California County of Los Angeles on 12/1/15.
Case Number BC600877
Looking forward to reading the "et al" list.
It's sad when the best update on Ultraflix this week comes from an avs forum guy who's disclosure status is uncertain.
What's more informative?
A. Wong's Non-Update
B. Some AVS forum guy who posted ntek's response to his questions.
"Late January", they can't seem to stop lying. Ntek will no longer be setting dates and deadlines but, if they do it through other "unaffiliated" (like Roycap? ) individuals, technically they didn't state a deadline. Technically... not a lie? Maybe fraud would be a better term to apply? I don't know, you can't make this stuff up.. Unless you're .. See what I did there?
I fully expect this quote to be dissected in gleeful anticipation. Whether it happens or not remain's to be seen. Late January in NTEK speak could mean 1/2017, 1/2018, etc. and when I point out they didn't specify a year, I mean that in all seriousness when you look back at things they say will happen, when they say it will happen and then you realize, hey, that NEVER HAPPENED.
Then, if it does happen, there is one thing we can absolutely count on....
MORE DILUTION AND DUMPING.
Hope the pps does better than the Roku 4 news.
QUOTE
"I asked UltraFlix some questions about the whole HDR issue; here's what they said:
1. HDR titles will be available as both rentals (transactional video on demand, or TVOD) and purchases (electronic sell-through, or EST).
2. EST purchasing will be available around the same time as HDR titles, i.e., late January.
3. Pricing for EST purchases will be no more than 25% more than TVOD rentals; no difference in pricing for HDR and SDR content.
4. EST purchases will be stored in the cloud, not locally.
5. Use of the Verizon CDN for streaming UltraFlix content started several months ago.
I hope that clears up some of the confusion about what UltraFlix is actually doing."
END QUOTE
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/39-networking-media-servers-content-streaming/2238242-roku-4-will-add-ultraflix-4k.html#post39557970
I would assume he dumped most if not all of his shares before he issued the statement, get your heads out of the clouds, prepare, sell etc etc
First in line.
Is it accurate to blame shorties for NTEK's pps or is it something different?
At this point of daily 52 week lows I would think most would be open to any realistic possibility as to "why?".
Public statement by the SEC Chairman:
https://www.sec.gov/news/speech/2008/spch071808cc.htm
"When an irrational panic is fueled by a sense of urgency, false rumors that must be acted on immediately and the fear that everyone else may get out first, market integrity is threatened. It is the job of market cops to provide a measure of confidence that financial information about public companies is accurate and reliable — and when it is not, to punish those responsible.
Who profits from intentionally false information in the marketplace? Those who are in on the scam and positioned to benefit from the predictable response of others who believe the fraudulent information to be true.
The classic "pump and dump" scheme, in which a stock is inflated through false information and then dumped on unsuspecting investors when the perpetrators flee, is one example of how this works..."
"Many people think naked short selling is already illegal, but that isn't true. Shares are normally delivered to the buyers within three days of the trade. But in most stocks, including those covered by our emergency order, that three-day period can be extended indefinitely."
Sometimes it's not naked shorting, it's something more obvious, massive dilution and dumping:
http://www.sec.gov/comments/s7-19-07/s71907-247.htm
NTEK's (via WONG) RIDICULOUS SH "NON"-UPDATE:
With UltraFlix now live on Samsung, Vizio, Sony 2015 Models, Roku 4 and slated to go live on Amazon Fire,Hisense, Humax, LG, Sharp, Apple TV and iOS, the company is seeing amazing traction in the 4K market.
Topics that have been requested for an update:
1. Update on the letter going out to shareholders ?
We are trying to get this out as soon as possible and apologize for the delay. We will update when we are able to on this.
*Are we not saying the word "PROXY" any longer? The phrase "we will will update when we are able to" may literally mean years or never. How many times has NTEK come out with "exciting" news and it never happened? ANS: ay-lot.
*Sorry, this is NOT an update.
2. Please if you have any issues or questions regarding UltraFlix working on your device please contact https://ultraflix.com/support.php or call 408-414-7355, we will not be handling those questions via social media.
*Again, NOT an update. If they can't make their responses public record, especially for the technical stuff, that makes it seem like they are hiding and why, if they are helpful responses to legitimate questions, why would you want to hide that? So you can get hundreds of calls and emails about the same question? Because, that's "efficient"?...
*On Wong's FB page for NTEK - you have people who have either been assigned or assumed the roles of moderators rebutting any concerns or opinions not in line with the narrative Wong desires. He will NEVER make it a read-only FB group because of that, and will never remove the page altogether. NTEK needs this tool, their FB page, to create the narrative they want. People feel good when they see a "like" next to their comment so, it's a breeding ground for homogeneous comments and free censorship on behalf of NTEk.
*You can only hide behind, "email, don't post your questions" so long. We all realize, the hard questions won't get answered so the page is useless. There is zero free speech going on there, no matter how respectful people post concerns. It wouldn't surprise me to learn Wong and his partner have alias's and post on FB and other groups to manage their narrative.
*One thing that has interested me is the person's who started posting Alexa ratings well before NTEK or Wong just posted it in this non-Update. Smells of inside information and narrative planning. The problem is the data is invalid due to the fact they are ranked outside of 100K Globally.
*alexa.com will tell you that, NTEK knows it, they hope you won't notice.
3. Is UltraFlix live on only the roku 4 or will the other models have it as well?
ROKU 4 only now is it is the only 4K devices. We are looking into adding non 4K devices after we are live on all the 4K Devices.
*Looking is NOT news or an update.
4. NTGL Audits- We have had unforeseen delays with the audit and assure you we will have these completed. We will update when we have a firm completion.
*Ah yes. Unforeseen? So, NTEK is claiming they didn't know R Gordon Jones was barred by the SEC when they retained his firm to handle audits? This is not good news going into the proceedings for the K2 one million dollar law suit. They are claiming fraud and it looks like NTEK got caught trying to get someone to fraudulently file audits on their behalf. One word: sketchy. I'm sure many others have better adjectives.
NOT an update.
5. UltraFlix is climbing the ranks in the Alexa Ranking, can someone explain how UltraFlix achieves that ranking?
We achieve the ranking through sites that get graded for Alexa. When you have new content and mass amounts of visitor traffic this improves your ranking. Look for it to continue to move up as our traffic continues to grow and we continue to add new content.
*Again, the Alexa ranking is bullshit outside of 100k globally. Look it up.
*This is NOT an update. This is the spreading of fraudulent data, in the way it's being reported to shareholders or unwitting investors. What does this say about the integrity of those using alexa.com numbers right now? Use NTEK's strategy, say it was unforeseen, claim you didn't know.
6. Regarding dilution and funding
As revenues continue to increase and users continue to increase at record breaking rates we will be able to utilize that increased income stream to invest in the future. We are also looking at other sources of funding and other ways to reduce our debt.
This is NOT an update. You claim record breaking rates but you keep diluting at a record breaking pace driving the pps lower each day.
News is proving you have record breaking users in audited financials which now, I'm not sure we should be trusting ANY type of financial record from NTEK audited or not.
7. Will NanoTech have an exhibitor booth at the 2016 CES in January? If so, any information?
We will not have a booth this year,but key personel will be there to meet the press. UltraFlix will be all over the show floor within our partners booths. This is a huge year for press and advertising.
*This IS an update. They've had a booth annually and now they're not.
8. How are the subscribers and rentals going and how was the Black Friday Promotion received?
Black Friday was very successful and we had a record breaking weekend. We are hitting exponential growth.
Again,
*This is NOT an update. You claim record breaking rates but you keep diluting at a record breaking pace driving the pps lower each day.
*News is proving you have record breaking users in audited financials which now, I'm not sure we should be trusting ANY type of financial record from NTEK audited or not.
We will be putting out more updates as we go along, thank you for your support.
*Their update could simply have been:
*We are not answering anybody's concerns or questions, especially not on public record. We are not holding a booth at CES and all other questions can be answered with "coming soon" - and whatever you speculate may be happening, it's "exciting" and thank you for believing it's "exciting" because although we cannot prove anything to you, it is. Please hold onto your shares, buy many more, thanks. Happy Holiday's.
12/1/15 K2 vs NTEK et al
How could I forget? I apologize!
http://www.scribd.com/doc/290436169/K2-v-NTEK
Yes, the Notice of Case Management Conference was recently filed with the Superior Court of California County of Los Angeles on 12/1/15.
Case Number BC600877
Looking forward to reading the "et al" list.
If you read the complaint, K2 is pissed. If they don't want to settle, get ready for some revealing court documents...
11/12/15
"At this point NTE has communicated that it does not have the ability to pay minimum guarantees going forward as it had agreed,..."
A LOOK BACK AT 2015 - STUFF THAT NTEK SAID:
*THESE ARE ALL LINKED QUOTES NTEK FILED ON OTC MARKETS.
FACTS, with LINKS. SUPPORTED CLAIMS BASED ON UNDENIABLE EVIDENCE.
THE YEAR’S NOT OVER YET, SO THERE MAY BE MORE STUFF TO ADD…
Seems like you can almost count on it.
IN REGARDS TO AUDITS, NTEK HAS GONE ON RECORD SINCE 2013 ABOUT AUDITS. FOR SPECIFIC QUOTES, LINKS AND PROOF PLEASE SEE:
"An overview of $$ NTEK $$ 's Journey to the Big Boards:"
POST # 334605
*AND OH YEAH, THEIR MOST RECENT AUDITOR? HE’S BEEN BARRED BY THE SEC FROM PRACTICING WELL BEFORE NTEK RETAINED THEM.
*NTEK’S PREVIOUS AUDITING FIRM SADLER GIBBS? YEAH BOTH SADLER AND GIBBS WORKED WITH R. GORDON JONES OF J&J CONSULTANTS, LLC.
PROOF? SEE POST #334667
& THEN READ THIS SEPTEMBER 2015 COURT RULING NOTING THE EVIDENCE OF SADLER GIBBS CONNECTION WITH J&J CONSULTANTS:
http://www.leagle.com/decision/In%20FDCO%2020151005728/SECURITIES%20AND%20EXCHANGE%20COMMISSION%20v.%20JONES
*NTEK has on a number of occasions assured shareholders there is no need to raise the A/S Share Structure. I won’t post the quotes and numbers here as I believe we are all well aware of how that went down. But, as much as this company has pissed me off and as easy as they make it to put together these facts, I’ll probably be getting to that soon.
*Now, let’s start with the most recent claims and work backwards:
11/19/15
http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/NTEK/news/NanoTech-Releases-Substantial-UltraFlix-Upgrades-Expanding-World-s-Largest-4K-Ultra-HD-Network-in-Time-for-Seasonal-Sales?id=119660&b=y
"Also new to the UltraFlix service is a Live 4K feature, which has been undergoing extensive interop testing with all of the current and upcoming OEM partners. “With recent successful testing of live 4K streaming from the 49ers Stadium, we are excited to continue to expand our network, including upcoming live 4K events that cannot be found anywhere else,” stated Aaron Taylor, Vice President of Sales and Marketing for NanoTech. “Adding Live 4K sports, concerts and news to our growing line-up of 4K ON Demand Content is exactly what this burgeoning 4K market wants. We’re very excited to be on the forefront here as well.”
*Notice on 11/19/15, NTEK was sure to mention the word “testing”. On 10/23/15, NTEK made the following statement:
10/23/15
http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/NTEK/news/NanoTech-and-Harmonic-Kick-Off-Live-4K-Video-Series-at-the-49ers-brand-new--state-of-the-art--Levi-rsquo-s-Stadium?id=117323&b=y
"NanoTech and Harmonic Kick Off Live 4K Video Series at the 49ers brand new, state-of-the-art, Levi’s Stadium"
*Sounds like we should have seen at least ONE (1) Live 4K Video. Have we seen ONE? NO.
"NTEK, a pioneer in bringing the most visually stunning streaming TV experience to consumers, announced today that it has signed a licensing agreement with the San Francisco 49ers to start offering UltraFlix users Live 4K video coverage of the 49ers pre-game show and the 49ers TV video series, exclusively in 4K. Stunning quality, real-time 4K HEVC video encoding and adaptive streaming is all provided by Harmonic (NASDAQ: HLIT), the worldwide leader in video delivery infrastructure. Verizon Edgecast manages the Live 4K ingest and reliable delivery to the growing line-up of 4K TV’s sporting UltraFlix, the top destination for 4K movies, documentaries, concerts and staring this fall, Live 4K events."
*We went from (10/23/15) announcing NTEK “…has signed a licensing agreement with the San Francisco 49ers to start offering UltraFlix users Live 4K video coverage of the 49ers pre-game show and the 49ers TV video series, exclusively in 4K”
...to..
*11/19/15 – “extensive interop testing” and oh yeah, they’re “excited”.
*For nearly a month because NTEK made it appear as if was going to happen based on their original PR - unwitting investors thought they'd be watching live 49ers pregame broadcasts on Ultraflix and bought shares accordingly.
Back to 11/19/15
"NanoTech has also recently expanded its channel offerings, adding several hundred new Hollywood movies and award winning TV series in the past two months, many of which are exclusive in 4K to UltraFlix, including the just released “Terminator Genisys.” New users signing up for UltraFlix will be rewarded with a $10 Gift Card from upcoming promotions with approved TV partners in time for Black Friday."
*"several hundred”…”in the past two months”. Haven’t been counting, but correct me if I’m wrong, it seems like their addition may be a tad “off”. Y
*The gift card.
Has anyone see ONE (1) SINGLE $10 ULTRAFLIX GIFT CARD from ANY promotion with ANY approved TV partners by Black Friday 2015? Correct me if I’m wrong but the answer is NO, NADA, ZIP.
*Can’t forget, this is the last time they are on record stating:
"UltraFlix can stream visually lossless UHD video with uninterrupted viewing as low as 4Mbps, making the highest quality streaming experience available to most North American and European internet subscribers today."
*Roku disagrees. See post # 334452
9/10/15
http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/NTEK/news/NanoTech-Denounces-Unauthorized-Spam-Communications?id=114202&b=y
"In the past, the Company has issued convertible securities which contain conversion features allowing conversion into the Company’s common stock at prices that constitute a discount to the current market price at the time of issuance. The existence of these convertible securities may create an incentive for a holder to engage in unauthorized promotional activities of the kind represented by email newsletters."
"…none of the Company’s convertible securities are held by an officer, director or controlling shareholder of the Company."
*They want/need you to believe this and technically on paper, they can say it, but ethically, and possibly legally, we all know better.
*David R. Foley holds a lot (understatement of the century) of convertible shares right now and his fake company Royal Capital Group has been reported by NTEK as “unrelated” and “unaffiliated”.
*What's the definition of "fraud"?
*DD on Royal Capital Group, Post # 331890
6/30/15
http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/NTEK/news/NanoTech-s-UltraFlix-Updates-Further-Enhance-4K-Quality-and-User-Experience?id=110936&b=y
"In addition to these advanced video quality playback technologies and driven by popular demand, UltraFlix will now support Electronic Sell-Through (EST), aka, purchases. With EST, UltraFlix users can access new releases sooner and buy and store them in the UltraFlix Cloud for unlimited playback and enjoyment. Later this summer UltraFlix will start offering hundreds of major studio blockbuster titles for EST and rental."
Has this happened yet? ummmm, NO.
Did unwitting shareholders purchase shares based on "news" like this? YES.
6/12/15
http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/NTEK/news/NanoTech-Adds-Over-100-Alchemy-Titles-in-4K-Ultra-HD-to-UltraFlix-Streaming-Network?id=107155&b=y
"NanoTech Adds Over 100 Alchemy Titles in 4K Ultra HD to UltraFlix Streaming Network"
*100? Maybe I miscounted.
6/4/15
http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/NTEK/news/UltraFlix-offers-the-first-4K-Ultra-HD-Streaming-Network-for-the-5K-iMac?id=106525&b=y
"NTEK), a pioneer in bringing the 4K experience to consumers, announced today that it has released a version of its award winning UltraFlix 4K Ultra HD network on the MAC OS X operating system with support for the 5K iMac."
"NanoTech's release comes on the eve of next week's Apple WWDC being held in San Francisco."
*Did you appreciate the way they said, “NanoTech's release comes on the eve of next week's Apple WWDC being held in San Francisco. “??
*Apple didn’t mention it of course at the WWDC and you can’t find it on the app store listings, you have to download it from the NTEK website/servers. Only ones that know about it? Shareholders. But boy, “the eve of” and “Apple”, surely that meant some big time exposure… How many unwitting investors bought on this news?
*They sure made it sound like they finally broke through with Apple. Lots of investors watched the WWDC event only to realize, they just got caught up in pure hype, no substance.
5/8/15
http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/NTEK/news/UltraFlix-adds-the-Top-50-Grossing-Indian-Films-to-its-new-Bollywood-4K-Ultra-HD-Channel?id=104052&b=y
"UltraFlix adds the Top 50 Grossing Indian Films to its new Bollywood 4K Ultra HD Channel"
*We have 50 of these Bollywood Films right now, available to watch? Please be sure to let us know.
4/27/15
http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/NTEK/news/NanoTech-s-UltraFlix-Streaming-Network-Secures-over-80-Theatrical-Movie-Titles-from-Inception-Media-Group?id=102935&b=y
"NanoTech's UltraFlix Streaming Network Secures over 80 Theatrical Movie Titles from Inception Media Group"
*80?
3/13/15
http://www.otcmarkets.com/otciq/ajax/showNewsReleaseDocumentById.pdf?id=13940
"We have also started interviewing possible candidates for the CFO position."
*Who’s the new CFO? I must have missed the announcement..
"Beginning in Q2 we will be launching Live 4K events including concerts, music festivals and sporting events. Along with our Live streaming events we will be offering our “All Day 4K” channel featuring a 24 hour stream of 4K content."
*Has Q2 happened yet? And, where’s are these things above?
*How many unwitting shareholders thought they'd be seeing live 4K broadcasts in Q2?
"As the saying goes, content is king, and we have been making incredible strides in our content offering. We will be adding titles from Millennium, IFC and Nu Image this month. We will be making content announcements from studios including Warner Brothers, Sony Pictures, Lionsgate and Miramax in the coming weeks as well."
*They may have to redefine their use of the words “coming weeks”. When NTEK says “coming weeks”, they need to have a code for 3, 6, 9 months or a year or more.
How many unwitting shareholders bought NTEK stock expecting these things to happen?
2/6/15
http://www.otcmarkets.com/otciq/ajax/showNewsReleaseDocumentById.pdf?id=13457
"Hi-Sense will be releasing their 4K Ultra HD sets this spring and UltraFlix will be bundled with all of their 4K models."
*Mmmm, nope and as of today….nope. Has "spring" happened yet? Maybe my definition of "spring" is off..?
How many unwitting investors believed this?
2/6/15
http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/NTEK/news/NanoTech-s-4K-Studios-Welcomes-Film-Editor-Harmy?id=96686&b=y
"Starting in February, UltraFlix viewers will start to see the "Re-Mastered by 4K Studios" Logo appearing on films that are updated through this program."
*I must have missed the “logo”, does anyone have a photo they can post? Maybe the meant Feb '16?
How many unwitting investors bought shares and are still waiting?
Whose to blame for the pps?
Wong just CENSORED (deleted) the comments that didn't fit his narrative. Now THAT is Omnivance Crisis Management!
Wong's Company Update.
Is it just me or is 95% of this NOT an update?
QUOTE:
With UltraFlix now live on Samsung, Vizio, Sony 2015 Models, Roku 4 and slated to go live on Amazon Fire,Hisense, Humax, LG, Sharp, Apple TV and iOS, the company is seeing amazing traction in the 4K market.
Topics that have been requested for an update:
1. Update on the letter going out to shareholders ?
We are trying to get this out as soon as possible and apologize for the delay. We will update when we are able to on this.
2. Please if you have any issues or questions regarding UltraFlix working on your device please contact https://ultraflix.com/support.php or call 408-414-7355, we will not be handling those questions via social media.
3. Is UltraFlix live on only the roku 4 or will the other models have it as well?
ROKU 4 only now is it is the only 4K devices. We are looking into adding non 4K devices after we are live on all the 4K Devices.
4. NTGL Audits- We have had unforeseen delays with the audit and assure you we will have these completed. We will update when we have a firm completion.
5. UltraFlix is climbing the ranks in the Alexa Ranking, can someone explain how UltraFlix achieves that ranking?
We achieve the ranking through sites that get graded for Alexa. When you have new content and mass amounts of visitor traffic this improves your ranking. Look for it to continue to move up as our traffic continues to grow and we continue to add new content.
6. Regarding dilution and funding
As revenues continue to increase and users continue to increase at record breaking rates we will be able to utilize that increased income stream to invest in the future. We are also looking at other sources of funding and other ways to reduce our debt.
7. Will NanoTech have an exhibitor booth at the 2016 CES in January? If so, any information?
We will not have a booth this year,but key personel will be there to meet the press. UltraFlix will be all over the show floor within our partners booths. This is a huge year for press and advertising.
8. How are the subscribers and rentals going and how was the Black Friday Promotion received?
Black Friday was very successful and we had a record breaking weekend. We are hitting exponential growth.
We will be putting out more updates as we go along, thank you for your support.
http://www.rankolia.com/site/ultraflix.com
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/ultraflix.com
There appears to be a disconnect with reality. Please observe this disconnect by reading the mock discussion I've provided below. I hope this helps.
*Again, this is a mock conversation..
Alexa.com: Global rankings outside of 100,000 are not valid.
Please allow us to define Validity: The degree to which a tool measures what it's supposed to measure. In this case not much if at all.
Investor: Ah, but I'm convinced that the Rankolia and/or Alexa ranking means Ultraflix [insert speculative claims here]. Weee.
Alexa.com: We're trying to tell you that since Ultraflix.com is globally ranked at 297K, there is little to no statistical significance between our invalid rank and the popularity of Ultraflix.com.
Global rankings outside of 100,000 are not valid.
Investor: Although the company, Alexa, whose statistical ranking I am citing says the number is not significant, I will continue to post [insert speculative invalid claims] regardless of the facts.
Alexa.com: We're sorry, have we been confusing? Is there another way we can explain this to you to help you understand?
Back to reality:
Email from Alexa.com:
xxxxxxx, Dec 7, 16:19:
Hello,
We have limited data for all sites ranked outside of the top 100,000 GLOBAL sites. This means the ranks, both global and country, for those sites will tend to fluctuate often.
Hope this information helped. If you have any additional questions or concerns as you use our site, please let us know.
Cheers,
xxxxxx
Alexa Customer Support
Once again...
Here's WHY THE Ultraflix.com Ranking IS MEANINGLESS:
Quote:
"Alexa does actually state on their website that ‘traffic rankings of 100,000 and above should be regarded as [very?] rough estimates‘ and that conversely ‘the closer a site gets to #1, the more accurate traffic rankings become‘. Anything higher than this 100,000 waypoint and everyone I’ve ever spoken to on the subject... ... seems to pretty much laugh it off as a metric that can, nine times out of ten, be almost completely ignored."
http://winningwp.com/alexa-traffic-rank/
In alexa.com's own words:
Quote:
"There are limits to statistics based on the data available. Sites with relatively low measured traffic [ultraflix.com] will not be accurately ranked by Alexa. We do not receive enough data from our sources to make rankings beyond 100,000 statistically meaningful. (However, on the flip side of that, the closer a site gets to #1, the more reliable its rank.) This means that, for example, the difference in traffic between a site ranked 1,000,000 and a site ranked 2,000,000 has low statistical significance. Sites ranked 100,000+ [ultraflix.com] may be subject to large ranking swings due to the scarcity of data for those sites. It is not unusual for such sites to decline to “No data” Traffic Ranks, or to improve suddenly."
https://support.alexa.com/hc/en-us/articles/200449744-How-are-Alexa-s-traffic-rankings-determined-
http://www.insitedesignlab.com/alexa-sucks/
If this doesn't get shut down by the SEC before the RS, longs will keep the ntek insider money train running at least two or three times before the train comes to a halt. Haven't you heard of this investing strategy:
Buy all of the dilution up and hold as the death spiral continues. If ya do that long enough, the dilution will magically stop and shorts get burned.
This is why ntek loves it's long shareholders. Solid investment strategies.
Ntek does make a point to state that their insiders are shareholders too remember, except the ones who have a boat load of shares have convertibles and will make money ALL THE WAY DOWN TO TRIP ZERO's and lower.
Enjoy the ride.
Can't trust NTEK Quarterly or Annual reports, ESPECIALLY NOT audited ones that they've been claiming have been a priority since 2013.
To be clear, audits have NEVER happened.
Wong is gonna earn every penny on Crisis Managing this one. Good luck.
Sadler (Gibbs), ntek's former auditor, used to consult R. Gordon Jones cited in their testimony and email exhibits:
http://www.leagle.com/decision/In%20FDCO%2020151005728/SECURITIES%20AND%20EXCHANGE%20COMMISSION%20v.%20JONES
Weird, why would ntek seek the services of a fraudulent auditor?
Wouldn't it be special to see that R. Gordon Jones or his firm is a recipient of restricted shares or convertible debentures in the next unaudited fins?
Sadler Gibbs named
Lmao look at the date on this court case decision:
9/30/15
Hey ntek!
Great DD on your choice of an auditing firm.
Wtf?
http://www.leagle.com/decision/In%20FDCO%2020151005728/SECURITIES%20AND%20EXCHANGE%20COMMISSION%20v.%20JONES
NTEK’s Auditor, R. Gordon Jones is a real sleaze bag apparently.
Did you bother to open and read any of my links?
"In The Matter of R. Gordon Jones, CPA and Mark F. Jensen, CPA,…”
"The complaint alleges that Jones, through his company J&J Consultants, LLC, …”
https://www.sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/2013/lr22875.htm
If that’s not enough, here ya go:
R.Gordon Jones, CPA
Contact by: E-mail: gjonest@aol.com
Phone: 801-916-3884
Fax: 801-447-6880
Address:
1393 N. Bennett Circle
Farmington, Utah 84025
"R. Gordon Jones graduated from Brigham Young University in April, 1978. He passed the CPA (Certified Public Accountant) exam and completed the practical experience necessary for a license.
In October 1983 Mr. Jones set up his own CPA firm and business. The firm specialized in the audits of small public companies, and had a wide variety of audit clients including mining companies, software developers, environmental companies, medical products, oil and gas companies, internet, construction, and mortgage companies. These companies were in all parts of the world, including China, Australia, Europe, Latin America, and Africa.
Mr. Jones is fluent in Spanish and has access to accountants who are fluent in many other languages, including Chinese, German, and Russian.
In April, 2000 Mr. Jones sold his CPA practice to his partners and formed J & J Consultants, LLC. J & J consults with companies looking to go public in the United States of America. It trains the client accountants to prepare financial statements in accordance with U.S. accounting standards, and facilitates the auditing of financial statements with U.S. qualified auditors. It also assists the companies security attorneys in gathering the documents for its registrations and other filings.
J & J Consultants, LLC also prepares U.S. federal and state income tax returns for both corporations and individuals. J & J also has access to accountants experienced in international taxation.
J & J works with several groups that can arrange for market makers for public companies. These groups also offer private placements of stock and other capital sources, including leasing.”
http://jandjconsultantsllc.com/Contact.aspx
“No Bar Is Off-Limits: SEC Enforces 2004 Order Barring Accountant – Redux"
"While awaiting the SDNY’s ruling on Taber’s disgorgement, the SEC sued another accountant for violating an even older accounting bar. On November 21, 2013, the SEC filed a complaint in U.S. District Court for the District of Utah against R. Gordon Jones for violating a 12-year-old suspension order. The SEC originally sued Jones in May 2000 for failing to audit the financial statements of Dynamic American Corporation in accordance with Generally Accepted Auditing Standards. Jones subsequently consented to a settlement order in May 2001 barring him from practicing before the SEC as an accountant, with the right to apply for reinstatement after three years. Shortly before agreeing to the bar, Jones allegedly founded a new consulting firm and for the next 12 years he provided prohibited accounting and financial statement preparation services to approximately 200 public companies. Jones never applied to have his bar lifted. The SEC requested the court to order Jones to comply with the bar and disgorge between $1.4 million and $2.1 million in compensation earned for providing prohibited services (plus prejudgment interest).”
https://www.venable.com/no-bar-is-off-limits-sec-enforces-2004-order-barring-accountant--redux-01-06-2014/
Poster child for fraud:
http://wallstreetfraud.blogspot.com/2013/12/cpa-charged-by-sec-with-violating.html
So, what do we think here, FoleyCap has now dumped 10% of its convertible shares with 90% to go? At the current dump rate per day, we should be golden by 2017!
Ntek stock: Cheapies today, buyers remorse tomorrow. Rinse wash repeat.
Ntek scrapping their proprietary 4mbps technology? Where are foley's 10 patents from 6/18/13?
"All Roku streamers support MPEG-DASH, so the Roku 4 will be ready for it when UltraFlix starts using it with all its titles in late January"
"Might want to note, that Ultraflix currently uses an inferior route to stream, but has told customers here on AVS that they are switching over to the same streaming platform that amazon and netflix uses, so the current streaming problems will be fixed within a couple months they said."
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/39-networking-media-servers-content-streaming/2238242-roku-4-will-add-ultraflix-4k.html#post39557970
Perhaps this is why Roku is telling Ultraflix customers they need 15-20 Mbps, just like Netflix and Amazon?
So much for the Ultraflix bandwidth advantage..
NTEK’s Auditing Firm BARRED?
Service Providers
Accounting/Auditing Firm
J&J Consultants LLC
1393 N. Bennett Circle
Farmington, UT, 84025
United States
http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/NTEK/profile
U.S. SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
Litigation Release No. 22875 / November 21, 2013
Accounting and Auditing Enforcement Release No. 3513 / November 21, 2013
Securities and Exchange Commission v. R. Gordon Jones, CPA, Civil Action No. 1:13-cv-00163-BSJ (D. Utah filed November 21, 2013)
SEC Charges Certified Public Accountant with Violating Commission Suspension Order
Seeks Disgorgement of Illicit Compensation Received During Suspending Period
The Securities and Exchange Commission today announced that it filed a complaint in U.S. District Court for the District of Utah against certified public accountant R. Gordon Jones. Securities and Exchange Commission v. R. Gordon Jones, C.P.A., 1:13-cv-00163-BSJ (D. Utah). Jones is a resident of Farmington, Utah, and has been licensed as a certified public accountant by the State of Utah since June 1980.
The Commission alleged in its complaint that Jones violated a May 4, 2001 Commission Order issued under Rule 102(e)(1)(ii) and (iii) of the Commission's Rules of Practice (the "2001 Order") that suspended Jones from appearing or practicing before the Commission as an accountant. In The Matter of R. Gordon Jones, CPA and Mark F. Jensen, CPA, Securities Exchange Act of 1934 Rel. No. 44265, Accounting and Auditing Enforcement Rel. No. 1390, Administrative Proceeding File No. 3-10210 (May 4, 2001). According to the complaint, beginning in 2001 through the present, Jones provided accounting and financial statement preparation work for public companies. The complaint alleges that Jones, through his company J&J Consultants, LLC, has, among other things, created, compiled, and edited financial statements, information and data incorporated into Forms 10-K, 10-Q and 8-K; drafted and edited footnotes to financial statements; drafted and edited Management Discussion and Analysis sections relating to financial information of public filings; drafted and edited responses to Commission comment letters relating to financial information on public filings; and provided issuers with accounting advice that was subsequently reflected in financial statements filed with the Commission. The complaint further alleges that Jones supervised the financial statement preparation work for public company clients performed by J&J employees, and was intrinsically involved in and had the final sign off on the work of the other J&J employees. Through these actions, Jones violated the 2001 Order.
The SEC's complaint seeks a district court order enforcing its 2001 Order suspending Jones from appearing or practicing before the Commission as an accountant, and asks that the court order Jones to pay disgorgement, representing illicit compensation gained as a result of his engaging in work that was proscribed by the 2001 Order, together with prejudgment interest.
The Commission's investigation was conducted by Kimberly Greer, Ian Karpel, and Donna Walker in the Denver Regional Office. The Commission's litigation will be led by Polly Atkinson.
https://www.sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/2013/lr22875.htm
1. On May 4, 2001, the Commission issued an Order under Rule 102(e)(1)(ii)
and (iii) [17 C.F.R. § 201.102(e)(1)(ii) and (iii)] (the “102(e) Order”) barring defendant R.
Gordon Jones from appearing or practicing before the Commission as an accountant.
2. Despite the 102(e) Order, defendant Jones, beginning in 2001, provided
accounting and financial statement preparation work for public companies. Jones, through his company J&J Consultants LLC, has, among other things, created, compiled,
and edited financial statements, information and data incorporated into Forms 10-K, 10-
Q and 8-K; drafted and edited footnotes to financial statements; drafted and edited
Management Discussion and Analysis (“MD&A”) sections of public filings; drafted and
edited responses to Commission comment letters on public filings; and provided issuers
with accounting advice that was subsequently reflected in financial statements filed with
the Commission (collectively, “financial statement preparation work”).
3. Through these actions, Jones has violated the 102(e) Order. Jones
should be ordered pursuant to Section 21(e) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 [15
U.S.C. § 78u(e)] to comply with the Commission’s 102(e) Order and should be ordered
to disgorge the ill-gotten gains he obtained as a result of his violations.
https://www.sec.gov/litigation/complaints/2013/comp22875.pdf
12/7/15 ALEXA.COM GLOBAL RANKING:
306,433 (UP 434,529)!!
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/ultraflix.com
$$ NTEK $$
Undeniable baby!!!
...and by "undeniable" I mean, TOTALLY DENIABLE!
An overview of $$ NTEK $$ 's Journey to the Big Boards:
2/15/13
NanoTech has recently issued more shares. We have no intention of raising the authorized share structure, nor any contemplation of a reverse split. In conjunction with issuing shares under various contract obligations, many shares have been issued to employees who have the ability to exercise stock purchases on a quarterly basis. We have at the same time started to identify share buyback opportunities and are completing those at the same time, reducing the issued shares by over 5 million shares this week alone. We will continue to balance the issued and outstanding shares against the buyback and our ultimate goal is to reduce the share count, but at this time we
don’t see any need to increase the authorized shares, which have been reduced once already in the past 2 years, and as we get to a point of further reductions, we will once again reduced the authorized share count.
Our new CPA firm has been working on the audit process for all seven of our companies. Once all of the companies have been completed, NTEK will file the audits and will file the necessary forms with the SEC to complete our uplisting and return to the OTCQB board and beyond.
I plan to work closely with our Finance team to expand personnel when we are able to and work towards producing audited financials and up listing.
NTEK was comprised of 7 separate business units, each of which is undergoing the audit
process. We had run into issues with previous service providers and have changed both CPA and Auditing firms. Completing audits was one of the priorities driving our recent
reorganization. We have every intention of each business audit being completed in a timely fashion and once completed, re-registering with the SEC and immediately up listing to the OTCQB. As our business grows, we do plan to up-list further as we meet the criteria of the big boards.
I am working closely with our executive staff, financial team to ensure that we can gather all of the necessary information from our previous CPA and Audit firms for our multiple companies and complete audits in a timely fashion. This is a priority for me and the company.
This week we have increased our Authorized shares from 740MM to 990MM. 990MM was our previous authorized amount and is where we need to be in order to effectively operate our business plan.
Share Structure Increase: 990 mm to 1.4 billion
In addition to these advanced video quality playback technologies and driven by popular demand, UltraFlix will now support Electronic Sell-Through (EST), aka, purchases. With EST, UltraFlix users can access new releases sooner and buy and store them in the UltraFlix Cloud for unlimited playback and enjoyment. Later this summer UltraFlix will start offering hundreds of major studio blockbuster titles for EST and rental.
In the past, the Company has issued convertible securities which contain conversion features allowing conversion into the Company’s common stock at prices that constitute a discount to the current market price at the time of issuance. The existence of these convertible securities may create an incentive for a holder to engage in unauthorized promotional activities of the kind represented by email newsletters. However, none of the Company’s convertible securities are held by an officer, director or controlling shareholder of the Company.
Thanks. I'm beginning to see this is a recurring pattern with ntek. They may have compressed a blurry image to a 4 Mbps stream and, although that was pretty much the only thing that they could allegedly compress to 4 Mbps, they made the claim that they could stream as low as 4 Mbps knowing the average movie could not be compressed anywhere near that low. This way, they could deny any claim that this was a lie, because in the instance of the butterfly, it was true and, who knows if it really was. Bottom line, they cannot stream movies as low as 4 Mbps.
I think if they told Roku that 4mbps was the min. requirement, Roku would have laughed and asked them to try again. Ntek, according to Roku fessed up and said 15-20 Mbps.
With Royal Capital ntek claims it is unrelated and unaffiliated with ntek. Since they paid the Los Gatos Chamber of Commerce to be listed as a business (but didn't hold a legal business license to conduct business), ntek can claim its "unrelated" when in reality, they created it and tried to conceal the relationship to a non-existent company.
This is fraud.
"Under the agreement, NanoTech’s all 4K UltraFlix Network App will be bundled with Sony’s 2014 4K Ultra HD TV product line. Financial terms were not disclosed."
http://www.stockhouse.com/news/press-releases/2014/09/15/nanotech-s-ultraflix-tm-4k-streaming-network-to-be-featured-on-sony-4k-ultra-hd#XdWCkXKgldaKCeSx.99
NTEK pr'd that SONY will bundle the Ultraflix app on 2014 SONY's and it didn't happen??
Well if that's true, then yes, a Roku in a addition to a a minimum 15-20 Mbps bandwidth signal will allow them to stream Ultraflix. So, for many thousands of people, Roku will not help them stream Ultraflix.
I agree with you. NTEK's claim of streaming visually lossless 4K as low as 4 Mbps has never been verified, but it has been disproved.
As with any of my posts, please do take the time to verify for yourself. I do make a habit of supporting my claims with links and self initiated DD - claims that can be self verified by anyone, including you. Let us know what you find.
Ultraflix 15-20 mbps req. CONFIRMED ROKU: Regarding Ultraflix you also need to have 15-20 Mbps signal. Oh, now that is helpful. Is that per Ultraflix? ROKU: Yes. If I share that with a consumer electronics journalist they can take that "to the bank"? ROKU: What do you mean by that? That this is what Ultraflix states what they require? I just want to be sure that this is from Ultraflix and not Roku... ROKU: Yes that information is from Ultraflix. One of the key forces driving this market is the ability to deliver the best possible viewer experience. With highly optimized video compression techniques, adaptive streaming and intelligent bandwidth management technologies, UltraFlix can stream visually lossless UHD video with uninterrupted viewing as low as 4Mbps, making the highest quality streaming experience available to most North American and European internet subscribers today.
NTEK must have changed their minds about this as they've been touting 4mbps for year(s) as recent as 11/19/15:
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20151119005432/en/NanoTech-Releases-Substantial-UltraFlix-Upgrades-Expanding-Worlds
Customer complaints about bandwidth are surfacing and becoming more prevalent on the official Ultraflix FB page:
https://www.facebook.com/UltraFlix/
I have 35+ Mbps and experience CONSTANT buffering issues with UltraFlix. Extremely disappointed.
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Go to settings on ultraflix and reduce internet speed to 8mbps or less. I have a 15mbps internet speed but it is NOT sustained and it dips as low as 2.87mbps especially during peak times.
UltraFlix recommends Internet speeds of between 15 – 20 Mbps to best enjoy its 4K Ultra HD streams.
Read more: http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/ultraflix-now-available-on-roku-4-streaming-rental-ultra-hd-movies/#ixzz3tZ6PL9mr
With all the talk of 4K that took place at CES, some within the industry are making statements and assumptions about 4K streaming bitrates that simply aren’t accurate. Many are under the impression that 4K streaming will soon be delivered at around 10-12Mbps using HEVC and are also quoting data from Akamai incorrectly. If you look at the HEVC testing that guys like Jan Ozer and Alex Zambelli have done, and look at the data Netflix has presented around their 4K encoding (Netflix’s current bitrate for 4K is 15.6Mbps), the bitrates won’t get down to 10-12Mbps anytime soon.
The reality is that true 4K streaming can’t take place at even 12-15Mbps unless there is a 40% efficiency in encoding going from H.264 to HEVC and the content is 24/30 fps, not 60 fps. Netflix has stated they expect HEVC to provide a 20-30% encoding efficiency vs H.264, within two years. That’s a long way away from the 40% required to get bitrates down to 12-15Mbps. While 4K can in theory be compressed at 10-12Mbps, this is typically achieved by reducing the frame rate or sacrificing quality. As Encoding.com points out, to date, “most of the HEVC we’ve seen in the market is heavily noise-reduced with high frequency details blurred out to fake the 40% efficiency”. The optimal bandwidth for high quality 4K is higher than 20Mbps. UMAX in Korea, for instance, compresses its 4K p60 streams at 32Mbps (i.e. using a rate of 60 frames per second, progressive). For the full effect of sports and documentary content, this is a more realistic bit rate at today’s compression efficiency.
As state of the art HEVC improves, some benefit will be reaped in terms of target bit rate. If the 40% efficiency improvements do indeed come true for HEVC, years from now we might see 4K streaming bitrates at the 10-12Mbps level, but it would not be for a very long time. OTT streaming is completely driven by the economics of bandwidth and what it costs to deliver the content. So the video only gets delivered at the minimum bit rate required to make the video look generally acceptable. Costs drive adoption. As I have written about before, the dirty little secret about 4K streaming is that content owners can’t afford the bandwidth costs. At Frost & Sullivan, we have done a lot of work on HEVC and 4K streaming trying to set the record straight on what is and isn’t possible. See [Cutting Through The Hype Of HEVC] and [Why MSOs Should Not Consider Switching Directly from MPEG-2 to HEVC].
With Netflix already encoding 4K content at 15.6Mbps today, and with the expertise they have in encoding and the money they spend on bandwidth, they will get the bitrate lower over time. Some observers think it might go down to 10-12Mbps, but that would only be possible down the road and at 24/30 fps, not 60 fps. If you want 60 fps, it’s going to be even higher. But even if we use the 10-12Mbps number, no ISP can sustain it, at scale. So while everyone wants to talk about compression rates, and bitrates, no one is talking about what the last mile can support or how content owners are going to pay to deliver all the additional bits. The bottom line is that for the next few years at least, 4K streaming will be near impossible to deliver at scale, even at 10-12Mbps, via the cloud with guaranteed QoS.
When it comes to the percentage of consumers in the U.S. that have Internet speeds capable of getting 4K content, with a threshold of 15Mbps, many are using Akamai’s data incorrectly. Multiple media outlets have said that, “Akamai says 19% of U.S. homes now can sustain the average 15 Mbps broadband speeds necessary to stream 4K/Ultra HD video.” That is NOT what Akamai said, nor what their data shows. Akamai’s data from their State Of The Internet Report isn’t breaking down what percentage of U.S. households have 4K ready connections, but rather speaks to the percentage of unique IP addresses from the United States that connected to their platform during the third quarter that had average connection speeds over 15 Mbps. However, there’s no direct correlation between unique IP addresses and households.
So for all those repeating the 19% of U.S. households can get 4K streaming number, that is not accurate. Don’t repeat it just because you read it somewhere, check the source of the data yourself. The bottom line is that 4K and HEVC is exciting and it is the future. But vendors, content owners and the media need to have realistic expectations of what is and isn’t possible with 4K streaming and use real numbers when it comes to bitrates, costs, efficiencies and Internet speeds.
As 4K TVs slowly make their way into the living room, streaming services like Netflix are gearing up to provide higher resolution streams to match the new format. Netflix CEO Reed Hastings spoke about the possibilities and the challenges of providing Ultra HD streams at the Copenhagen Future of TV Conference. The highest quality video format Netflix currently offers is Super HD, which requires a connection between 6-12 Mbps that is only available through select ISPs in the United States. According to DSLReports, Ultra HD will consume even more bandwidth.
“It’s around 15 megabits per second,” said Hastings at the TV Conference. “It’s not too bad. If you’ve got a 50-megabit connection you’ll be fine. As an overall system load, it will grow quite slowly and steadily, giving people lots of time to build the infrastructure.”
A 50 Mbps connection is certainly a viable option, even in 2013, but according to the latest speed rankings via the NCTA, the average American connection sits around 7.4 Mbps, less than half of the required bandwidth needed to stream 4K video. It is true that 4K adoption is relatively slow, so expectations for higher quality streams will rise only gradually in the coming months. Even so, Internet connection speeds will need to climb at a greater pace if Americans wants to access their favorite on Netflix movies in 4K.
Richard Baker is listed as the Director here: http://nvsos.gov/sosentitysearch/CorpDetails.aspx?lx8nvq=NvfeaJ6dOrIR4K%252bzC9l2Aw%253d%253d&nt7=0
Don't know where he came from.
Exactly. Here's how a real company like Paramount handles this, as an example. Don Harris, who was in charge of anti-piracy for example? Yeah, he moved on and Paramount made the announcement themselves to make sure it didn't look like there was any bad-blood, a classy move.
Note, Don Harris didn't do this from his personal FB page, lol. That would've been a joke.
The fact that Hightower did this is very unusual to be nice about it. It makes me wonder - was NTEK even aware that he was going to resign? - and - why did he feel the need to be Baker's courier of news to his own company as well? All very odd.
But, I digress..
I believe Paramount's, Megan Collegian has now taken over for him and is head of the anti-piracy division..
She issued a statement on behalf of the company that was used by industry journalists to publish the news:
I am writing to let you know that Don Harris will be transitioning out of his role at Paramount Pictures at the conclusion of his contract to pursue other opportunities. We are very grateful for his dedication and leadership during his many years with the studio.
As President of Domestic Theatrical Distribution, he has established himself to be among the most respected executives in his field, and has lead Paramount to a tremendously successful run during his time here.
Please join me in wishing Don the very best.
Megan Colligan
I did have to educate him on ULTRAFLIX and bandwidth.
Yeah but now they can claim somebody's actually watching since they had to basically give it away for .99 each. Maybe that's why they allowed anyone to pirate terminator Genysis last weekend? Hey, it's a page hit..
I know that's going to be the "spin" and since he's continuing with the company he's not going to admit to anything other than this is a personal preference decision on his part. If he's going to be in the position of programmer, he can now claim he doesn't know how the company raises capital. It's clear he doesn't want any part of it and now he gets his wish. Most real companies let someone on the board of directors or leadership release a statement thanking the former executive for his service and wishing him luck in his new role. For whatever reason, Hightower felt that he needed to make the announcement himself.
Let's also pause for a moment and remember the company is claiming to be kept afloat by Royal capital group.
A NORMAL LAW ABIDING CITIZEN upon being presented with what the facts are about Royal Capital, would at the very minimum conclude, something ain't right here and why would ntek try to cover it up?
I think Hightower started asking the same basic questions..
.. That a normal human being would ask..
And decided he didn't want to know nor does he want to know hence..
.. He's dedicating himself to programming, where he believes he can help the most.
He also felt the need to say that Baker isn't interested in the Capital side of things either. No BOd for him.
Report TOS
Oh you mean, all the non-shareholder people who are pissed about the UI and that nothing works right?
Ok yeah, that I saw. The funny and sad thing is the shareholders are the ones answering the questions.
Ntek la la land. It's a strange place.