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Well, feel free to discuss RXSF, NXTD or any other biometric or "potentially great valued" stock here. Its a company-bash-free zone.
No worries there, they are only talking to themselves, its like a bash-circle jerk, they are all getting off on each other. Bunch of losers and dangerous guys that intentionally HURT everyones investments. The ones that don;t own stock, is obvious, the ones that do, guess its more entertainment value for them rather than losing money. I don't even look anymore because that board has turned into such a joke, When views go down because there is no real discussion and no one is paying any attention or engaging them, then IHUB will shut them down and tell them to move to a board where they can create new controversy. Without an audience, they are just jerking themselves off, ROFLMAO!
Not yet.
As it related to Chaya......she is a little late to the party I think......http://www.card-tech.it/en
You made me spit out my coffee again Dave, thanx!
Great post. I guess you thought you were part of that group I was talking about? I wasn't referring to you. But glad to see that you are the sensitive kind.
Whats worse, is that it seems IHUB protects him. Too bad, they lost their way according to their original mission statement. Then again, the greater the controversy, the more board visits and the more they make in AD revenues. Who's scamming who? LOL
Thats exactly correct. Anyone can google Kezzek and see for themselves. Didn't know that IHUB allowed name changes. Looks bad for IHUB as well. Like a cover-up.
RXSF already delivered what the shareholders wanted. Everyone was bitching and screaming that it didn't name the banker, so when it did, instead of celebrating an underfunded company landing a NYSE Investment Banking firm, a LOT of YOU thought thats going to drive the market up. I didn't, the company didn't, there was no press release bout it, no fanfare, just a disclose isn a regulatory filing as well as a shareholder update explaining the bankers process and plans for the company. And then MORE bitching started. Too many people are expecting overnight activity - yea, thats call a pump and dump scam on the OTC.
So the result is, the company isn't good enough? Management isn't good enough? The products aren't good enough? The banker isn't good enough? Do you see how ridiculous that all sounds, but thats exactly whats happening. Flippers crying because its game over for them, and thats exactly what the company set out to do when it did the reverse and took the stock out of the market. Now there is no stock to flip, so the leak-outs hurt a little bit. Big fucking deal. Trust me, if the company didn't care about its shareholders, I am sure the insiders would be selling like there is no tomorrow. Fortunately there is a tomorrow. With such a limited and actual trading float, I don;t think the company is as worried about the PPS as some of you are. They need to focus on their plans, because everything at IHUB is just a BS distraction. Guys thinking they are smarter than a 100 year old NYSE Banker - jeeezzzz, so full of themselves. n fact one is so bad, he had to change his moniker. lol
Wow, Toxic Avenger. Nice moniker but seems anything but avenging. Maybe the company pointed to the usurious nature of all the toxic debt and forced them all to accept limited conversions and leak outs. I am sure they didn't want to be put in the same boat that Kodiak is now in and it looks like Kodiak will be going down hard for it. Sounds like the only way to force the issue. If you do more DD you will see a whole slew of new lawsuits filed in the last 90 days against many of the typical toxic lenders. In some states, the penalty for criminal usury is the underlying obligation gets voided in full by the courts. Now that's is something the Toxic Avenger should post about. I could t agree with you more about toxic notes.
Of course, love your humor, but we all know the plan to take out the toxics. Look, any business could be criticized. Share us yours and let us take a stab at it as well......:) Have a Great Memorial Day Weekend Dave! Mean it.
HERE is MY POST from RXSF that I am SURE will be selectively deleted again - they delete my 1 post almost every day, so as to prevent me from ever coming off restriction - another IHUB tactic -
In response to Kezzek seemingly not understanding why no one is buying, LOL
Its easy. Instead of focusing on the positives, there seems to be an inordinate amount of focus on the "potentially" bads. When you do that at a message board where 65% of the public float is owned by its members, and it keeps getting hammered away on, without any balance because of selective censorship, you will do 2 things 1) chase away anyone interested in the stock and may come support it, and 2) making people start to believe that speculation is actual fact, without any more information. Most message boards aren't this cantankerous, and this on seems especially so.
There are some that supply DD in a fair and balance manner, then there are those who don't and they usually start teaming up with others. Too bad there isn't a real screening process to allow only shareholders the ability to moderate boards, because at least in that case, they wouldn't make statements against their interest, instead of allowing non shareholders, to make statements against everyone else's interests.
IHUB's mission, as states in some lawsuits ( ;) ) is to have a forum where open and legitimate discussions can be had regarding a company - suppose to be fair, balanced and inclusive. Not here.
Its funny that you are "just saying", because thats what you are doing. Then you go on to say that it "doesn't work that way out here". Do you know more than a 100 year old NYSE Banking Firm with about $3B under management? I understand you are old school, but old school accounts for maybe 10% of all IPOS and uplifts. The rest come from companies that have built out their product lines, distribution, intellectual property, revenues, etc....via acquisition. Thats a model that has been available to select companies that bankers choose to get behind, so again, you seem to be part of the group to cast doubt that anything will happen, if its not done your way that is. Thats unfair and a little short-sighted. Not putting you or your analysis down at all, but it DOES work that way out here.
To buy a profitable company to begin with would assume there is a company already doing what RXSF does via technology and the market, and , that company would sell. In theory, it sounds like you make sense, but when you look at all the facts, it really doesn't, not in this situation, anyway. There were no real profitable biometric companies, and none in healthcare. RXSF offers future liquidity to a private company that doesn't have an exit strategy yet can expand their product and technology footprints. In my opinion, its a win-win for all of RXSF shareholders, especially with a NYSE blue-chip banker orchestrating and funding it.
The problem is, other bashers are jumping on the bandwagon - known flip-floppers - and making matters worse for all of us, including themselves because a few of them own the stock. It's really amazing how people feel that what they say will have no impact, and when the focus turns on them, its always - its not us, how dare the company blame us - but the fact is, they are to blame. A thinly traded stock, held 65% by IHUB members, and some of the balance by insiders, anything said will have an immediate effect. Its not up to the company to spend money on OTC awareness when in all likelihood their bankers have prohibited it. If they did, and applied to NASDAQ, their application would be denied. So because there is no awareness, they complain no one is buying, and the company doesn't care about the PPS. They are right on both issues. RXSF has a very active social media campaign for the company and its products, not the stock, although sometimes they will release some info about that. Thats why they spend some time and money on consultants to run social media and their website for them. Thats quite obvious.
When a shareholder bashes a public company on a public message board where most of its float shareholders reside, is just moronic if you care at all about your investment. It hurts other shareholders who may not be able to suffer the losses they can, and after a while, it appears to be nothing more than a psychological game they think they are better at than you.
RXMD and STRT on upswing!
Sorry, didn't mean for that to come across that way, I just said I wouldn't want to be seen near him. Your analysis is as good as any I have seen, and I have seen a lot. Just could do without some of the innuendo, but thats just style points.
You know I like and respect your opinions YD. Always just trying to keep thing equal, just as you do. Enjoy the day, some day Franks Steaks?
YD, you should read the blog about Kezzek, I wouldn't want to be seen in THAT company, ever.
NO problem, I'm not good until my 3rd cup of coffee. :)
Creating a mole hill out of a few flecks of dust. Obviously they have both YD, thats why its been disclosed as both. The timing of when the company put that out is irrelevant. The MOU preceeded the order, but that wasn't definitive enough to put THAT out in news first. They waited to get the PO, and THATS why the dates look a little out of order. I am SURE WS directed them to release it that way. Maybe just more of trying to get the company to follow what the big boys, and how they release info.
RXSF - Sure they are making money, because the more the price is driven down two things happen, they get more stock and they play in larger spreads. Thanks to all those bashing, this has been the trend over the last 3 months. And the revenues are exactly what the company said.....it just started its sales programs. So don't examine the nature of the programs, how log the sales cycles take, the markets they are in, the time it takes to get into retail - since they just started of course - let's just say some key words like FAIL, TOXIC, COMPENSATION - without any analysis regarding the underlying business.
The problem here is that 100% of the focus is and has been on PPS. When it was $7.00 no one complained, yet the company had no sales programs, no attempted market penetration, no distribution, nothing. But when the stock is $1.00, and there are sales programs that had just been implemented and they get an order for $500K, or they contracted with a Banker other OTC companies can only dream about - its Armageddon here.
Then theres the intentional suppression of discussion via the TOS button, knowing all well when that pressed enough, Admins get involved and either limit or ban other voices, ones armed with facts, not speculation.
I think by now, the longs are the longs, and some of you are doing a real good superficial job keeping new investor away, so you are basically patting each other on your backs, actually hurting other actual investors through half -assed analysis and half truths. Plus, the WILD speculation of events that have not happened like $.15 cent conversions. You really have a willful blind eye (I think there is much more of a motive behind this) to any of the company successes. If you hold stock, and think that gives you right to speak up - just remember, you are one of the biggest contributing factors to YOU losing money here.
Never saw such animosity and anger against a single company, that has and is doing so much.......real logical.
Everything takes time.............even a $1M check, need supporting documents, could be weeks before attorneys are done with it!
It IS a joke, that the market dropped this much, but show me another OTC company with a multi-contract with a NYSE Banking firm to clean EVERYTHING UP? Show me instead of complaining!
Funny . because the company did NOT expect ANY reaction, because maybe its new banker said to ignore the OTC and follow the plan. Maybe YOU thought there would be a reaction, but they didn't put news out, maybe because they RAEN'T ALLOWED TO upon instruction and contract with its banker. You think a NYSE Banker wants OTC trading in its name> That's a BIG NO Cheeky, and you know that.
So what. The company said the PPS is irrelevant right now to the uplift plans. Thats ALL anyone is focusing one.
Regarding RXSF - The bankers are not part of a fluff campaign. They have 3 contracts to do three different things for the company. However, those negative posts are designed to raise doubt - even 3 contracts with a Wall Street Banker with an "A" reputation, and they still want to play this game of casting doubt. Its nothing more than psychological warfare. Most of the posts today at the RXSF board were all based on some "feeling" that its all BS - but then again, thats typical OTC trader mentality, isn't it. Everything is BS until its not.
Ask yourselves this (and I know those posters are laughing reading this, planning their ridiculous rebuttals), why on the date the company announces $56 million in funding deals and explains the bankers plans for the company, is the day with the most negative onslaught against the company by posters.
People screamed sales - they initiated sales program and have started receiving orders.......people screamed bankers.....and guess what, they land a top tier NYSE 100 year Old Banking Firm......they scream Toxic Debt.......yet its been managed effectively for the past several months (and will be taken out with the first phase of funding).........they scream insiders filling their pockets.........yet the insiders haven't sold a single share since the company went public more than 18 months ago and on top of that, agreed to lock up for a year..............Really like other OTC companies?
The only tragedy here is the absolute denigration and bulldozing of posters at that board who point to facts rather than fiction. While there is little truth buried in the negative posts, the real truths are overshadowed by creating fear for their greed. It was probably the worst negative posting day for any OTC company in years - why? Because they are desperate.
Just remember, taking down any OTC company is a feather in some of those caps. Taking down a real company is a real prize for them.
Don't let the illusions of "Good Samaritans" coming to fellow traders rescues sway you. By all evidence, they are not.
They are not part of the fluff. They have 3 contracts to do three different things for the company. However, those posts are designed to raise doubt - even 3 contracts with a Wall Street Banker with an "A" reputation, and they still want to play this game of casting doubt. Its nothing more than psychological warfare. Most of the posts today were all based on some "feeling" that its all BS - but then again, thats typical OTC trader mentality, isn't it.
Ask yourselves this (and I know those posters are laughing reading this, planning their ridiculous rebuttals), why on the date the company announces $56 million in funding deals and explains the bankers plans for the company, is the day that is the single most negative onslaught against the company by posters.
People screamed sales - they initiated sales program and have started receiving orders.......people screamed bankers.....and guess what, they land a top tier NYSE 100 year Old Banking Firm......they scream Toxic Debt.......yet its been managed effectively for the past several months (and will be taken out with the first phase of funding).........they scream insiders filling their pockets.........yet the insiders haven't sold a single share since the company went public more than 18 months ago and on top of that, agreed to lock up for a year..............Really like other OTC companies?
The only tragedy here is the absolute denigration and bulldozing of posters who point to facts rather than fiction. While there is truth buried in the negative posts, the real truths are overshadowed by attempted fear for their greed.
Don't let the illusions of "Good Samaritans" coming to fellow traders rescues. By all evidence, they are not.
Oh. and Kezzek - I was concerned about the new base for the conversion price so I called the company - GOOD TRY MATE - neither the company nor the converters are using that trade, LOL. You can try again tomorrow.
Please enlighten the board to which you infer. Please also make it clear which stock you are discussing.
There is a line on this board Mellowman. There is a line here. They may not like it, because they can't control the narrative here. More RXSF and the small cap companies that are doing well, have real companies, products, and valued shareholders will also find their way here as well.
Phase III will end up being a whole new valuation done by the bakers, and THEY set the PPS when the uplift goes effective. That's why several of us aren;t worried about right now. Its not what the OTC ,market thinks the PPS should be (bashers, flippers, pumpers and the like) Its what the Wall Street 100 Year Old Firm thinks it will be after the first 2 Phases. The BANKER will establish the new floor. Thats why it could easily be used against the company....they don;t care about the PPS - because it doesn't matter what the PPS is a week before trading, it only matters on what it is when it opens to trade first day on NASDAQ.
The only reason why the fee''s are in there is that they are required to be disclosed. Funny how bashers used THAT instead of the content of what those agreements end up doing for the company.
The bashers at the other board now know for certain there is a pay day coming, so they are working overtime with the bashing. They will try to pressure you and everyone else into selling down in the dumps.
This applies to ALL stocks traded on the OTC. Its fraught with manipulation via message board banter. Just remember this in any stock you come across....red flag words like...."toxic debt"....."insider compensation", should key you to do more research on your own, because research the bashers provide are simply one0sided, designed to hurt you and the stock. There is NO OTHER reason for that. They are not good samavratins looking to save you from losing money. They aren't smarter than you, but they pretend to be. They use company disclosures against the company to warn you of impending doom. Just do your own DD and you will be fine.
The market is not driven by logic... Its driven by FEAR and GREED.
Wrong, day traders are driven by Fear and Greed. Bankers are driven by logic and metrics. Some day traders want to create FEAR for their own GREED. They do this by bashing a stock down. So many positive things came out of the Q and the shareholder update, and you didn't address a SINGLE one of them. Hope everyone sees this as well.
PPS is only relevant now when the company uplists. The CEO laid out the BANKERS entire plan to get there and how its calculated. Has nothing to do with trading right now. You know that too.
Yea, he is on your side alright - all he does is BASH, on an important day for ALL shareholders, he jumped on his friends bandwagon and started bashing every little thing under the sun. The way I see that, posts like that do nothing but hurt ALL investors, but they are so reckless, they don't care about their investments. Now he is trying to arbitrarily set a new price in the .30's as a "good deal"? With what he has been saying about this company or its stock is anything but a good deal. Thats how these guys work the board.
Well don't complain when all you do over there is bash and pile on, hurting your own, and others investments, and then come here and cry that the company doesn't care about PPS. You're mad, you're mad. I get it, SO am I. But intentionally trying to take down the company by piling on the bashing, hurts Cheeky too - financially. So instead of focusing on the positives, all you and the others do is focus on any negative you can dig up, then add wild speculation to it. Again, its hurting everyone invested in the company, including yourself, because at some point, being mad and complaining, turns into vindictiveness. And thats quite obvious. You are not going to get an audience here for that shit. And this is where most of those moderate posters have come to.
That statement is a statement reflecting the bankers viewpoint. If the company didn't care about shareholders the insiders would be slamming the stock while running stock promo's. They would have taken more dilutive finding. In fact, everything those bashers said would be coming true. But its not. ALL you are doing now is feeding into those bashers, who ONLY look at PPS, and thats pissing ME off. The plan is right in your face, with a Wall Street banker that knows a little more than all of us, and all of those crackpots at the other board. You think they care? You think their incessant bashing, when they allegedly own stock, says they care about you? Please. Why would they take down their own investments and YOURS along with it? Because they are mad? Yea, thats real logical Cheeky. They are throwing the biggest hissy fit over there we have ever seen at any board. They don't like the kind of progress they see because it has nothing to do with PPS. And who's asking them to stay, not the me, not the company, certainly not the bankers. Whatever is going on now with PPS IS irrelevant. The CEO told you so, and she told you why. Ask yourself a question, why wasn't there any movement? 1) Thin float 2) Longs holding 3) Incessant bashing 4) No stock promos
Damn RXMD and STRT are both down today. Was hoping to pick up a few more greens.
More Hilarious - they are ONLY talking to themselves at this point. Just goes to show how bashers get caught up in a cluster-fuc!