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Magic is the World's only nicotine free cigarette? What about these?:
http://nicotinefreecigarettes.com/
And, notice the website shows "store locator", and "order". This is how you sell stuff.
It was easy to order, clicked 2 buttons, checked-out. Cake.....
Is it me, or did the timelines get pushed back again? henry said we're signing up distributors for Smoker friendly products. We are? Wasn't product shipped already? And, Magic to Spain 3rd week in March? I thought that, too, has happened.
I still can't find a store that sells Red Sun, and our website can't either. Supposedly, RK Company has ordered a lot of product, but I can't verify because they, apparently, are operating out of a back room or something. I can't find them on Google or anywhere.
And, insiders buy and sell stock all the time. Not sure why Henry said they couldn't buy legally. I never heard of that....
Ya, and why no insiders purchasing? Little faith?? None of the execs adding? It's almost like they know this is going to tank...Good news, we can only go to zero, no lower. Then, and only then, will I say " we've hit bottom"....:)
Where to buy? Still shows no stores? I think that may hinder sales a bit. LOL. I'm still only under the assumption that shipments went out. Mainly because I can't find this product anywhere. The stores we did ship to should appear on our site.
Once again, I've been involved in a few product launches, and this is the worst I have seen. If in fact, this product was launched....
I have no confidence left.
Joe's hurting big time? Didn't he pocket 522,000 in one day?? He sold off, albeit a small portion of his total, at above 5 and 6?? poor dude, I feel bad for him. And, his severance is more than most people make over a decade.
He's doing just fine.....
I can't believe I even responded to you. Your clearly not on the inside....your useless.
Great buying ops coming up, I agree. Get ready for a new 52 week low...
I live a stone's throw from Clarence, NY. Let me tell you, it's a BEAUTIFUL place to live. Spaulding Lake houses are huge and gorgeous. He might want to buy in East Aurora, though. Those are even bigger and badder. Also, Orchard Park has it's fair share of mansions as well. All the Buffalo Bills players live there....
But I agree, this snow bites....
Scoring a pack of Red Sun cigs is super easy and convenient. Simply go to our web site, print off that form under "where to buy", go into a local retailer's store and hand it to them. They can then order direct from the company. You should have your smokes in a few weeks.....
easy peezy :)
Ya, I'm in the green, .22 cents. LOL, You're right, I should be out spending my profits....:)
And, please stop saying " it looks like the bottom is near...", you and The Dane have been saying that since $3.36....it's funny now.
Although, you're right-the bottom is near, it's only 1.1.8 until zero...:)
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I couldn't agree more, Pete. you are correct. And, you're right, I'm long-bought at .96 a long time ago and haven't bought or sold since. I hope I am wrong about this, but every time I look at the ticker, down she goes.
The one issue here is what you said after. We (tombrady and I ) both are aware of the IP and it's potential disruptive nature it "SHOULD" provide...however, I think most people know it-Bonnie included. Yet nobody, insiders et al, are buying into it.(?)
As stated, I do believe in the company albeit a wavering belief.
Aw C'mon, tombrady, don't be so....deflated. :)
But, ya, I agree. that $6 SP seems so long ago. Joey P rocks!! He made half a mill in one day, that was no accident...
I still shake my head in disbelief. I think the company is legit, just the SP will wallow sub 2s forever. Just my .02
I'm only basing my stance on historic performance. Looking at all of the milestones that have been reached, we're all siting on stock that is not even half of the value BEFORE we obtained MSA. That was supposed to be our big news. I still believe in the company, but I'm not so sure the SP will ever get back to where it was. Think how many times, folks here have said, "but just wait for this, or just wait until that..." All met with nothing noteworthy on SP except for declination. Heck, I'm not even certain revenues will move this anymore. This stock is weird.
Not with this stock. If one thing is certain, this stocks trades illogically. China won't increase the share price. Go back and re-read the board. Nothing moves this thing up. NOTHING. Every catalyst is met with a declining share price. China SHOULD move it up, but it won't......
I have yet to see ONE positive event increase our SP....
Still trying to find a retailer that's heard of Red Sun. Where exactly did we ship these? Even the year-long redesigned website doesn't show ANY locations at all where to buy. Just a print out, that no one is going to print, to take to a local retailer. People aren't going to beg for our product. Especially if they don't even know it exists. I should be able to go online and purchase these right from the website. Have any of you seen a single pack of these for sale? If so, where?
The old manufacturer IS shipping until March. Read the statement.
" A transition will now occur under which the Company’s factory will increase its production and shipment of Smoker Friendly products as the prior manufacturer of Smoker Friendly products winds down its inventory. Both manufacturers will ship “SF” brand cigarettes until March 31, 2015, at which time the prior manufacturer will cease shipments of Smoker Friendly products. In anticipation of assuming sole rights to manufacture and ship the “SF” private label cigarettes, NASCO has already produced an inventory of all 11 brand styles"
Fair enough. I'm just surprised they didn't release a PR saying NAAG did, in fact, approve the deal. Henry said we were still waiting for NAAG approval on the CC. Also, the disclosure at the bottom of these releases cautions us about "forward looking statements"
One thing I seemed to have missed, after re-reading the latest release. The old manufacturer is still going to ship SF brand cigs up to March 31,2015? That'll hinder our sales a bit. So, not only are we waiting for the depletion of inventory at stores, they're( the old manufactuer) still providing product for the next 2 months....
I'm not sure how accurate your information is, or where you even obtained it, but it sounds like more delays are coming. SF production will ramp based on clearing out old SF supplier's inventory?? Why couldn't they have started to deplete this inventory in anticipation a few months AGO? I don't know the answer to that, maybe there is a good one. Originally, I thought your post was gonna say the plant tour was delayed. Which, now that I think about it, will probably happen.
I'm still having no luck finding Red Sun, and a store that's heard of them.
Also, once again, I will ask, did NAAG approve our SF agreement? And before you say "of course, they're shipping..." think, have you heard of the NAAG approval?
Oh no...Not "good news!!!". 90 cents, here we come.....
So, the 46 settling states, and US territories..yada, yada, yada have approved the NASCO deal??
has anybody here yet seen a pack of Red Sun available anywhere? Did we even ship? To where? I would like to buy a pack right now. How do I do it???
What happens when we hit zero, anyway?
Give them a break on the website, will ya. They only spent a year on it. Whatdya expect?? lol.
This stock price is very unsettling, and I think XXII is all out of excuses here. I officially have zero belief this will ever rise again, ever. I'll hold anyway, because I'd kick myself if I sold off and it somehow shot up. But faith is all gone....
still believe in product, just not an appreciating SP
I can't believe some of you are surprised by the stock action. THIS ALWAYS HAPPENS. You guys have been here long enough. This thing tanks on good news. always has. I called it at 10:30 this morning. Look at my post... This stocks plummets on news. Look what the MSA did to it...as soon as we got the MSA, we fell below 3.00 and never closed in the 3's again....
I'm not saying I know why, because I don't. I just know it drops....
I was. If history is any indication, then this monumental news of shipments should result in a declining SP. Not sure why, but this thing tanks on good news, and this news is great!!! Don't be surprised if we hit 1.15 today....just the way this stock operates.....weird.
Well, I called three of these stores that were in New York. Brockport phone number was actually a fax. Rochester has never even heard of Red Sun, same with the one in Canandaigua. So, 0-3 on this one. How can 2 of these locations never even heard of Red Sun?
Thanks, Just. I had a feeling that was how it's supposed to go, but was unsure. Yes, the factory tour is a HUGE positive bit of news. Gives a ton of encouragement knowing it's up and running....
I had a feeling this date would come and go with no news. We were supposed to ship January 10th per the CC, and the 15th to SF. Are there more NAAG approvals to be had? If so, how can ANYONE guarantee anything until that is settled? Does NAAG still need to approve the deal, amended(?) deal, that is, with SF???
LOL, keep in mind, we were supposed to originally ship in October 2014....
The ad references a website that's been down for a year, LOL. I called the number, the woman on the other end said they are doing their product launch right now and there are no sales ready for individual consumers, just retailers. So, I can't buy a pack at the moment. From a marketing perspective, though, one has to grade this a solid "F" as far as a product launch. No PR? I get that we can't advertise, but our website should've given us a little exposure. Now we look like we're incompetent. Terrible Launch.
UGH
But it's not = to No News for SP. Our SP drops faster upon this "No News"...if the stock remained flat, I'd be okay, but this dropping is ridiculous.
And another thing, Am I the only one who felt Bonnie was NOT impressed with XXII? I came away from that meeting with a " oh crap, she wasn't too enthused..." She used phrases like "hmmm, that's interesting", which seemed to simply pacify us and allow her to move on to next question.
IMO
I think you've got it backwards. WITH China news, this will go below a 1.00. You see, this stocks falls like a stone upon 'good" news. You haven't figured that out yet? Look at MSA, for example, 9.2.14 is when news broke, and we have dropped ever since. Uplisting, Russell inclusion, you name it. Good things drive this down. Period.
Semi-sarcasm implied. But everything above is true.....
Ok, in recent memory. :)
Seriously, though. With a product that can't be marketed like other products, the web site is a fantastic tool to promote...and ours is "coming soon"???
Does anyone know if we actually shipped a single cigarette yet? Since I can only assume we did based on promises from the company. I have yet to see a single shred of evidence that a shipment has actually happened. Also, if so, how can I buy a pack? Where are these?? The website is down (and has been for a year) and there is no information on where to obtain product.
Worst Product Launch in history.....
LOL. I love reading your comments, Dane. You always say " low as it will go" and "only up from here". The problem is that he stock goes LOWER even after your words of wisdom. I think the last time you said, "this won't go lower from here" was around 2.40. This thing can go lower....
Thank you.
Nice, Zed. I was looking at this a while back. I was hoping someone on here lived close to the factory and could give us an update as to it's production, staffing, and overall activity levels.
One thing still irks me, how can Henry say we'll be shipping January 10th? if we're waiting for NAAG approval on state directories. NAAG could take a year!!! We've all seen how 'quick' they were with MSA and NASCO.....
And, we have obtained these directory approvals for 12 states. Why not shipping to those now....?
Also, did any of you know we were waiting for more NAAG approvals? I didn't.....
Go on...?
NAAG approval to be listed on State directories??? How long is that gonna take? How can Henry say we're shipping in January ( "hopefully to SF"((HOPEFULLY????!!!)but yet we have no control over this approval process? That makes no sense.
I see this thing moving even slower than originally thought. IMO
And, to make matters worse, the so-called "good news" we get inevitably leads us to drop in price. Look back at the MSA, that's right, the biggest news we've been waiting for. We closed above 3 the same day MSA was announced. And it dropped ever since, not closing above 3 again. I don't know what's gonna make this thing go up anymore. "Revenues" is the newest catalyst for us to hang our hopes on. But, who knows what that'll do. Face it, XXII isn't a secret, nobody cares.....
I got in at .96 and am officially worried I may be looking at a loss.
LOL. I'm just hoping for Christmas in December. :) My seat belts have been buckled since May. This ride is lame, not sure I need a seat belt for it. Maybe a pillow.....
OK, so I called the plant and they are running a "skeleton crew" right now, but they are hiring. The woman on the phone says that "we're trying to get 2 full shifts up and running as soon as possible". So, production seems to be 'ramping up'....
Well, one thing is certain. This stock sure knows how to drop. It's amazingly good at that. In fact, that's all it does.....