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I don't think this current market is concerned with economic fundamentals......the market then/now was driven by the amount of money that was coming into it. Moreover, the gratuitous amount of low cost credit that our fed created is creating a secondary market by allowing companies to buy back shares with cheap credit to mitigate lower earnings expectations. Think about it.....borrow before the rate hike and the hikes will pacify old debt levels.
At least TVIX traded half way decent today. Maybe we will start to get some fed rate hike talks tomorrow. Good Luck
I think the market is going higher too and it is being priced in accordingly (but was taking a chance that some subjective thing would bust it down from highs). The longer the SnP holds its value (at the top)the bigger the base will be for the next leg. This could be like the Clinton years where it just goes up and up. It seems to be trading a little better today, but if VIX breaks ten year support...look out.
Yellen could shock, though.
I think that is the only true way to make money on this dawg, i.e., observe the trend and volume and place big trades for small moves w/extremely tight stop outs in both directions. One would have to be extremely disciplined, observant, in the know, and intelligent.
I don't think it will be just a threat this time. Banks, Pension Funds, Insurance companies need rates to rise and I think they have taking it on the chin long enough. Inflation/rate hikes aren't necessarily a bad thing.....it will strengthen the dollar making imports to us cheaper. Conversely, there is some drawbacks, i.e., home market could be effected, loan interest loss to the consumer, gold tanking, bond/treasuries getting whacked.
It's in the left and right hemispheres of MY prefrontal cortex and I don't much like it, e.g., I'm headed out if things don't change in the morning. Sad thing is this will most likely pop back up to the three range in a week or two, but I can't take the chance of riding this thing down to .75 and splitting and it tanking another 50%. I miss judged the impact of all that oil glut hovering over the market.
Looks like there might be a glimmer of hope on this trade with Yahoo and Netflix dropping on lower earnings. Time will tell. Good Luck Guys.
It sure isn't trading like it wants to pop up. Figure the vix is up .5 and this would out pace it or at least follow. Spooks me. What would be the catalyst? I think the overall sentiment of the market wants to drop.....just feels weak.
I've seen them drop it a few cents under support and then let her rip up, to gobble up stops. I must admit it feels like it is going lower and support has been broke. Too bad they didn't release the data early Friday....we would have had our little spike.
I noticed a lot of home builder short positions and puts last week.
Cool, I like predictions with actual ETA's.
I figured that oil dropping 2% would be putting pressure on this exuberance. Moreover, drillers of the world are ramping back up with this exponential glut of 386 million barrels, e.g. this is going to put pressure on forward projections for those on the take. I really don't understand how the price of oil can command a price over 40 bucks a barrel.
The trading pattern that was developing between the Vix and Tvix is behaving differently. Looks like it wants to go lower now. Going to hold out for a day or two and see what happens.
I hope your referring to buckle up for the ride up. What makes you think so?
I think you had the wrong contract, for it never reached that level today.....looks like 1259 was the high on the open.
SnP mini closed 2162 Friday. It is a coin toss. My gut tells me a somber opening with the vix popping up modestly. We are at the cusp of one direction or another.
Up BIG, lol, .28%
I too think that Turkey is far from over; however, our jets will easily shoot these down if proved to be enemies. Will be could for fear and the vix. Think we need to expand our military presence in that country and protect our friends and supporters.
Sometimes one has to go to bed with the enemy,(and I am not referring to these countries as enemies) Turkey, as well as, Israel gives us avenues of friendship, clandestine infiltration, and military presence. Have often contemplated that Israel was giving back to Jewish culture mainly for this reason; notwithstanding and additionally, as a gift to the Jews from the atrocities that occurred under the reins of the religious zealot Adolf Hitler and the Third Reich. Moreover, Hitler had taken North Africa, solely for access to the oil fields to supply his military machine, thus, after losing Africa to Patton and Monte, attacking Russia to gain fuel (which cost him the war). So in the game of Cause and Effect.....one, must look at who gains and who wants what others have, that is causing the whole charade; sadly, humans inherently look at the Effect (and those who rule know this).
Futures tomorrow night will tell the tale.
Heck, they could use the downfall of the coup as a excuse to rally the snp further; "no such thing as bad news" these days.
However, I think we will see the Vix touch 13.40 Monday and move higher as earnings are released through the week.
PE multiples over 20, margin debt all time highs, stock market highs, earnings revisions downward, Puerto Rico filing BK, DB et al's on the verge of derivatives collapse, Oil glut that will eventually tank oil under 40 taking their investors with them, the whole freaking world blowing each other up, Yellen will start talking rates again. How can this market go further? Good money going after bad? Bond money coming in to find a home?
Futures will tell the tale tomorrow night. The atrocities committed in the wake of this coup could be the catalyst that turns the tide.
Location, Location, Location......if Turkey was in South America nobody would give a rats arse. Turkey, being the liaison between the Middle East and European interests could reek some havoc on the European front with DB, et al's on the verge of derivative disaster. Moreover, we have a air base in Turkey, as well as, nukes and troops. Additionally, there are pipelines of various fuels going through Turkey to Europe that can cause major disturbances.
Lets face it.....if it wasn't for the Petro Dollar/Oil Reserves the Islamic World would be reduced down to a exporter of goat meat, milk, and cheese; thus, marginalizing their role in the world. The root of our concern is the underlying reality that we need oil to flow undisturbed from the Middle East to Europe and continue to keep the value of that commodity pegged to the Petro Dollar. Turkey, in chaos with extremist Islamic radicals calling the shots (with our nukes)is definitely something the world needs to address and heed too; thus volatility, caution, and concern.
I see the vix rising modestly higher Monday, maybe 13.40. Vix would have went apeshoot if they would have announced this before close and that would have transcended into Monday. Heck, they could use this coup failure as a rallying point to send the market higher.
Most likely, this event will lead to a dash of uncertainty that puts some on the sidelines and with earnings disappointments next week could start the decline to a S n P that is more in touch with the declines in earnings.
It looks like newsfeeds were coming out around 1:00 Eastern time. I'm thinking it probably started around 11:00 Friday Eastern time.
I too had the same thoughts; however, the timing of the release just seemed to be too much of a coincidence. Information can be delayed/controlled by the world govts. I never did see what time the coup started to unfold. It had to have started several hours before the info was released to the masses because one of the first posts was on the location of the President/PM/whatever, who flew hurriedly to London and was rejected safe landing by others. Personally, think the algo trading picked up on this early on and it was responsible for the little abrupt spike in the Vix that quickly dissipated. Who knows for sure, just conjecture and speculation.
Wow, it seems like the whole world is about to revolt. The vix at 12.5 is even more insane.
I wonder if they delayed the announcement of the coup to coincide with the market closing?
We got nukes in Turkey. This could get very interesting. Figured TVIX would have went hogwild afterhours.
Titan will have to dilute to the tune of 200 million before bringing a product to market in 18 months, e.g., many rounds of stock offerings and private placements with warrants w/ the eventual reverse split to gain access to a major exchange.
What would a sane rational mind do......buy a penny stock that won't make a dime for two years (if their lucky) or buy a stock with major funds and institutional investment on a major exchange with revenue likely next quarter?
The "surgibot" will have little trouble passing grade, whereas, the "titan" will have mountains to overcome. Moreover, ALF-X has already established and achieved approval in Europe.
Posilock, go to TRXC website and sign up for the slide show and videos of the European approved ALF-X and soon to be approved Surgibot.
JPMorgan Healthcare Conference Quote......
J.P. Morgan HealthCare Conference 2016: Surgeons about to get new surgical robot alternatives to Da Vinci system
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SAN FRANCISCO — Surgeons have only had one robot to play with in the general surgery space since Intutive Surgical Inc. (Sunnyvale, Calif.) introduced the Da Vinci system in 1999, but that's about to change as Transenterix Inc. (Morrisville, N.C.) prepares to launch its recently-acquired Alf-x robotic system in Europe and its Surgibot system in the U.S.
How so?
Good News for TITAN(ic) holders.......another round of overnight offering with warrants. Back to Disneyland and .50 cents you go.
Posilock, I'm just playing around. Don't take it to heart. I have a lovely wife who I have been faithfully married too for many years.
I just don't understand you guys. That is, why would anybody waste their time and effort on a rival companies stock board.....when you're two years out on a final product? What do you hope to gain with fear mongering on a investment that isn't yours? Is it going to help the TITAN(ic) prevent massive dilution and eventual reverse splits, or will it help you gain institutional investment, or will it help bring your product to market or create sales? And, the answer is no to all thee above......psychological manipulation at the hands of fear mongering, plain and simple; however, it could be unconscious fear mongering, thus, giving you the benefit of the doubt.
"Why does it matter" has got to be one the dumbest retorts that I have ever witnessed.
One cant find out who the 12 institutions are because Titan(ic) is a broke penny stock traded on penny stock market.....lol, where it belongs.
I'm bamboozled by the irony, i.e., your rhetoric and premises redundantly underpin the prudence of investing in TRXC vis-à-vis the Titanic! Not only are the logical inconsistences abound and ubiquitous, these inconsistences reek with the stench of egoic human effulence coming from underdeck, deep in the hull; hence, your insaitabe desire to use scuttlebutt and literal circular logic.
Since the events of 08......a heightened sense of incredulity has engulfed many pension and institutional funds with many decks of security measures, mast look outs, and swob hands to gaze for impeading rocks, icebergs, land, et cetra. These ship insurance writers have done their homework.....and that is the inherent reason why the Titan(ic) has so few of them.
Dude, I'm just playing around.
Somewhat of a paradox develops when one harbors on and on about a penny stock that won't see the light of day for 18 months......without bringing to light the shear reality that TRXC is owned almost entirely by insiders, institutions, and funds.
What are we supposed to take your word for it? Or, should we reflect on the well established institutions that have invested so heavily into TRXC? Are we supposed to solely base are investment decisions based off of message board self serving hearsay and speculation or should we digest the overwhelming evidence that TRXC is much sounder investment than the heavily diluted Titan will probably every be?
Am I the only one who see's this?
What? Are you in Disneyland?
TRXC's reverse is a logical underpinning to wait for Titan to do the same before buying shares. They will need 300 million to bring their product to market and their a broke .90cent penny stock with a measly 227,525 shares held by 12 institutions......cant you see the massive dilution and eventual split to get off the penny stock board?
This is part of the beauty of TRXC product ready for market, 50 million cash, 76 institutions owning 41,006,722 shares, insiders owning nearly the same, major stock market listing, total shares outstanding owned collectively by funds and insiders 93%, BOD with a reputation for producing consistent winners that resemble one of the major medicals, bottom of a major correction after split. On and on.
All you give us is self serving conjecture and hearsay.
Bud, sorry for that response. I have seen that same web address posted a few times by TRXC haters and just jumped to conclusions. It seems like every other post is from a TITAN fan trying to negate TRXC.
Bud, your propagandizing techniques are a insult to the intellect of TRXC holders. If we wanted to view the TITANic......we will come to your sinking ships website.
Going to prescribe and posit a brief view of the present moment,as well as the future, i.e., the TITANic will engage in a gratuitous barrage of diluting offering (icebergs) that will crack the bow of your frigate, thus, these cracks will be repaired by a reverse split and mitigate your initial investment to .20 cents on the dollar. Per chance that your frigate makes it to market with approval in a couple of years......a few other ships will join you in the ranks, hence, JnJ, Googl, Verb, et al; e.g., breaking the hull of your beloved Titanic.
Over and over, through the course of human affairs has man bestowed propensities towards unconsciousness, leaving them bereft of the underlying reality at hand. Instead of reaping the rewards from minimally invasive surgery, at the behest of a rising stock price......you will meet with a minimally invasive monetary reality.
Bud, BLUEHORSESHOE loves TRANSENTERIX!
To refute.......It worked out rather well since I picked up near the bottom. Inasmuch, it will a sweet demented convalesce observing malicious posters soaking in tub of their own human excrement, babbling on about supposed heresy from unverifiable surgeons. Their lips dripping with the utterances of nullification and interposition.....to at last, awaken from the nightmare to find their diluted then split shares somewhat worthless.
The once dreamed voyage of miminally invasive surgery on the TITANic will reduce to a sea-floor shipwreck resurrection.
Nothing like heresy to ground a logical premise. Some doctor supposedly said, LOL.
If, you don't realize that Titan will have to dilute to heck and back over the next two years to just get approval.....your lost. Furthermore, figure many years to build sales, together with, mounting patient infringement delays; wow, a cash burning TITANic comes to my intellect. Catchy isn't it, i.e., Titanic.
Like I said, one can learn a great deal from the envious, thus, a converse/inverse opinion keeps one grounded.
For the most part.....I tend to let people and things be, i.e., try not to change the way people act or think, e.g., not too keen on the premise of removing posts on a whim. Be that as it may, it does get tiresome, i.e, of reading posts of a select few who are psychologically trying to manipulate others into their fold.
That big drop in Titan price, yesterday.....should autonomously shut them up. As well as, Titans instaible need for more cash will inherently bring to the forefront another fresh round of dilution and a eventual reverse split. Moreover, patient infringement lawsuits from Da V will keep them tied up for a decade.
Often, I appreciate a opposing viewpoint; however, this redundant bashing by Titan holders is getting old. Post that crap on your own board. Do they even have a message board yet? Sure did tank at the end of the day.