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Never mind 2020 we have a great week and today was more manipulation, not to worry roll on next week :)
Pps is going up 2020 are you sure you are not buying??? Lol
You are a good sport 2020, fingers on the trigger lol ready steady goooo :)
We might need 2020 to buy another 200 shares to push this up to the days high :)
Are you ready 2020??? Lol
We are doing well today some great buys lets hope for a good end to the day :)
Welcome tony, interesting APDN is being pumped again. Think the risk of fine might open a few eyes lol
I know if I was a supplier what I would do and that is make 100% sure i COMPLY lol
GL
Congrats 2020, wise investment :) when the pps moves beyond a $1 you might look back on this day as a defining moment........
Good luck ! And go APDN
Thinking about it cj my guess is the swing traders are booking a bit of profit. Momentum has temporarily slowed down but let's catch the second wind :)
Could be some of the shorters getting out :) good spread so let's see where we end up today.
Good point Johnsyn, we probably did say goodbye to a few swing traders but of course it looks like we had more buys today than sells. I'm sure a few of these buyers will hang around :)
Yes great volume 15 million in 2 days, another good day again still up and the days range suggests we could push further up !!
Hopefully we will continue the climb back to where we belong, with lots of new followers. Welcome to you all, and I hope all the newcomers enjoy the posts on here as much as I do :)
GL
Hello everyone great to see the stock doing well. If its a P&D I guess we have another good couple of days on the way??
If its meaningful news we should have a good couple of months ??
GL and thanks for all the posts everyone if there is news out there this board will find it :)
Well done cablejohn and welcome. Think many people are loading up ready for the next climb. Lots of good news coming our way :)
Another day of more buys than sells sunny.... Hopefully see the move upwards next week.
Thanks for the posts everyone. Have a great weekend.
Ps thanks wishful you too.
Fair comment 2020 :) looks like we're both betting on the future :) lets hope the next set of figures are more like we hope and the PPS will fly :)
Interesting thesis 2020. And I agree that more clarity in the numbers would be brilliant but let me ask you one question if I may.
If APDN are hiding sales elsewhere to Sython off or avoid paying tax they would save what per year?? Lets say $ 2 million maybe $ 3 million
Now if you were to add those sales to the PPS if would bring APDN into break even territory which I would imagine would probably double or treble the PPS. Given the Dr holds millions of shares he would stand to gain tens of millions of dollars.
Sorry to ramble 2020 my question is why would APDN move a few million in sales when they would benefit many more millions massively with the PPS if those sales were declared ?
Don't get me wrong your post clearly shows that our turnover should be more. And I would like more clarity, the Dr blamed contract timing, invoicing periods as excuses. Many that is so. I don't know enough I just think that he would gain more than most if the PPS went up. Certainly to redirect a couple of mill in sales would be pointless at this stage of the companies journey.
Thanks wishful, guy, imperativity. Great find yip it's all good :)
Clear manipulation sunny, I don't know how long the MM's can hold this down. Volume is still good, a good PR though and increased volume will push through any resistance.
I keep thinking about the Dr saying 5961 is a game changer. What a great comment. Lots to look forward too :)
Great post sunny and of course the Dr would not have even touched on 5961 if he did not expect some announcement in the near future..... Perhaps this will be the PR we seek :)
I guess imperatively you mean people like me :) I loaded up at .05 in 2006 and though my average is now just over .10 I am very happy with my position.
You may be right about concerns over whether we can hit the recent highs. I certainly think the silence does not help us or the PPS. The company could and should be telling us as much as it can.
All we have to hold onto is sunny's excellent detailed account of the shareholders meeting and what we can expect. I believe I am a realist imperativity if APDN fail to deliver something meaningful this year I will reconsider my investment. But I honestly do not think APDN will fail. They have even been endorsed exclusively by the government. The mandate will expand and the numbers will follow :)
Thanks for your comments and good luck.
Of course Pasta earnings are important. So are many other factors ie size of market, competition etc
The large holders of this stock have in the main held this stock for years, when incidentally the turnover was a lot less than it is now. In fact in 2006 I was advised to invest due to the product and potential. And after one bad quarter there is no way I am getting out of this stock.
I do agree that the company has to start ramping up its sales. And I think it will in the next few months. Clearly the serious money investing in APDN are looking at the long term potential. As a bio tech stock with amazing potential now backed by the U.S. Government there is no way this stock is going anywhere long term but up. And I'm sure sales will follow :)
Interesting comments imperativity, I don't think the drop is due to large holders of stock getting out. Certainly when this board checked out the large holders (including Crede) a couple of months ago they were still major holders.
It's more likely that the stock is being walked down and private individuals are re evaluating their position as the PPS drops. Thus dropping the price further. This PPS is being controlled and manipulated by the mm's and it is easier to control as only a small % of holders are selling as the main bulk of this stock is being held by institutions or large holders and I just don't think they are selling and why would they? As sunny said if the company achieve equilibrium by the end of the year the PPS will rocket.
The lack of news is fuelling this fire and the company has to issue a PR soon. I honestly think we are going on a run soon. One decent PR and we could easily be up in high .20's again.
Congrats on getting .26 and best of luck. Like you I love this company and its technology and I think it will deliver on its promise and its loyal investors will be rewarded :)
GL
I keep thinking who is still dumping at silly money? This stock is clearly being manipulated and for us holders that's hard to watch. The good news is that as you say buys are clearly up, clearly plenty of takers and rightly so at this price.
All we need is one PR. between APDN and Crede I expect we will see something very soon. Then it will be another penny pushing feature. We held so strong and for so long at .20 plus I really think the PPS has been forced down to silly levels. This is not going much lower because the clever money is in the technology and future, not in historical sales. If it drops a bit more I expect buying to increase putting the mm's under pressure and hopefully pushing the PPS where it ought to be.
But a PR is what I think the market is waiting for then I think the PPS will soon recover lost ground.
GLTA
The last two days sunny there have been more buys than sells. The market today was 3 digit gains and we still end up down 6% LOL.
The games MM's play. It reads so much like we are going on a run soon, people loading up and getting ready for the climb back up. Can't be much longer to wait sunny :)
I know what you mean Johnsyn, given the good Dr was so open about the additional 5961 part clearly there is good news around the corner and as sunny reported Dr Hayward psaid it was a game changer!
As you said earlier we need a PR to bounce out the shorters and though I'm sure it's on it's way, soon would be good :) It is as though he is totally disconnected with the PPS or looking at it another way he has total confidence it will regain the highs of a few months sometime soon :)
Without a PR I can see this perhaps dropping another cent or two as there is still too many weak hands holding for good news. Lets be honest one bad quarter and the shorters have had a field day, I hope we see a PR soon.
On the bright side if we are breaking even by the end of the year I think the PPS will be in excess of .50 so we have lots to look forward too :)
GLTA
One things for sure DS that PR has to appear sometime soon :)
APDN........ About to get a whole lot bigger :)
Lol sounds like we will be hearing a lot more about 5961 in a PR hopefully soon as the Dr was quite open about it!!
Given its a major step forward what will it do to the PPS I wonder ?? :)
Really really pleased sunny with your observations. We have been waiting for confirmation that the company is rising to meet demand. Clearly breaking even by the end of the year would require substantial sales.
The digital dna platform is clearly a huge huge market. The ability to achieve confirmation by iPhone moves the technology into mainstream, simply massive.
All great news.... Thanks sunny
Excellent sunny very promising:) thankyou for attending on behalf of all of us
I hope you are right sunny but the last 5 minutes of big buying we have seen before! Perhaps a sign of a PR?
It makes sense to post a PR tomorrow or Friday am to help smooth the shareholders meeting along.... And Friday is usually a non PR day so we will see :)
Looks good to see a bit of green anyway and either way momentum or a PR i hope we start climbing back where we belong. thanks for all the posts everyone have a great evening.
Thanks Johnsyn :) a little surge now would be nice :)
Interesting thought AG, funny though you claimed these very same investors were dumping a couple of months ago which turned out to be unfounded.
In fairness APDN 1 was quite right you did say you felt .14 was the bottom recently. Not that yours or my opinion really matters to the PPS.
I value constructive comments but this board should not be the forum for you to be disrespectful to other contributors like vans and sunny.
Thanks apdn1 I honestly believe we will reap the rewards of our loyalty :)
Excellent sunny great find :)
Thanks wishful I appreciate your kind words and I look forward to hearing the lowdown on Friday :)
You could be right sunny I think 2020 has found a meaningful link and let's be honest counterfeit drugs cost lives. Sooner or later a global leader like Glaxo will have to make a stand..... What makes it sound true is the talk about a pilot programme!!
I bet APDN are talking to loads of household names and if just one breaks lol and sooner or later one will the PPS will rocket.
Thanks wishful, keep your research going, I for one find it fascinating. Thankyou :)
Thankyou Johnsyn,Your comments are very eloquently put and I agree 100%. I loved the fact that this board is a fantastic place to discuss and swap meaningful ideas. People like you and yip and wishful and 2020 and many others find out such amazing things this board has been of real benefit to me. Thankyou all :)
Thankyou for your comments vangorilla and I agree regarding your comments about being over pessimistic. However I cannot agree that the "market" now views the company as having a value of <$100m. It would be more accurate to say that a small % of the holders of APDN stock have decided to sell helping to drive the PPS down. The "market" as I see it are the large / main holders of APDN stock and I'm sure that they still hold the view that the company is worth more than the current PPS or else they would be selling huge huge chunks of this stock. Just a small consideration.
GLTY and thankyou again for your comments.
Thanks sunny, guy3. I think you were right to buy due to the mandate. I believe this will be the defining way to prevent counterfeiting for years to come. This year we will see major announcements and record income. The PPS as sunny 9 said can bounce up as fast as it came down and I don't think APDN will allow the PPS to drop too far. For those of us who hold tight the rewards will follow. GL
There has been a lot of negative comments posted on this board some fair and some not. I have read that the PPS is heading for .05 LOL
All that has happened is the company posted poor sales figures less than we all anticipated. Does this make the company worthless? I don't think so. Has anybody come along and broken the technology? NO It still has its unique products and that undisputable reliability. The mandate still exists and will create revenue. All this negative talk is just over the top.
I said a few weeks ago that the company has in the next 6 months got to start posting meaningful revenue. I think they will. It is obvious to me that the government will roll out the mandate in the near future. The company needs to grow faster but they are clearly working on many many streams of enquiry.
I think the Dr telling us that he had laid a proper business foundation was a clue as to what he expects to happen. I said last year that I was told to expect two big announcements in the next 12 months but one definately this year. And a few weeks later the mandate arrived. I assumed the other announcement would involve a major household name like Nike. Now the PPS went up over 500% with the first announcement. What if the PPS went up another 500% with a second major announcement?? At any level this stock is a fantastic buy at these levels.
Personally I am not bothered if people buy or not as this stock is in the main owned by large investors or large holders who appear to be holding long term.
Weak hands will always run at the first kind of trouble but doesn't mr buffet say the best way to trade is to do the opposite ........buy when people sell:)
I am APDN long and I look forward to some major announcements this year and I congratulate other holders of this stock as these PR's will provide excellent returns. I also appreciate those who choose not to invest and wish them well but as the old saying goes "Rome wasn't built in a day" and I do honestly believe that APDN are building something very special.
Very strange day. Feels like manipulation and now hopefully accumulation again. Perhaps a P & D could be on the way... Think sunny might be right.
All we need now is a decent PR and we will be back where we should be :)
To be honest Johnsyn that is exactly what my "professional friend" expects :) the PPS has been too severely hammered fingers crossed we start the climb back where we belong. And let's be honest by the way crede could have waited with financial help and bought in at a lower number given they were 6 weeks into the trading quarter in question. They are happy with .186 / .2232 so the current PPS should not be held down much longer. Let the buying begin :)