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Well Bob, you and the others know that we need a product before any of the country or industry saving can be done. And it is more and more apparent that this is not the case at present.
Here we are again, 3 weeks down the line, still all those questions (that apparently no one here want answers to) still go unanswered, the patterns continue with the same old same old .
Apparently the put up or shut up is now the shutup.
Using a friend's phrase, "such a travesty"
Where is the cc? Oh yeah, its ok for the delay (as always). Should hear in 2017 or 18.. NEWBIES BEWARE
No, but we sure seem to have a company that can express a bunch of BS and carrot talk.
Am sure the sp drop today is related to the overall market, nothing to worry about.
And the cc that was to have taken place now, nothing to worry about.
And the results of the "pilot" program, just delayed, nothing to worry about.
And the remarkable Big Red product, still testing, nothing to worry about.
And the real reasons and rationales for the sh meeting, stay tuned, nothing to worry about.
The change in pr/info provided by the company, priceless!
And of course, all those deals in the pipeline.
The story continues to repeat as it has in previous years. Frankly, one could go back at any point of similar time regarding these moves and see the same comments, same predictions, same excuses, same analysis, same players and posters, and ... same management mistakes and mis-steps. The barrage of prs this year and the reinforced posts and theories provided by the usual only served to pump this stock for the traders and caused numerous newbies to both lose money and get disenchanted with what should be a truly industry changing development IF TRUE. And there lies the repeat, wash. repeat issue for this company's management. We have no more info on what we have then when we got the 9/10 announcement. What we have are continued carrots, just replace the initials (NDA, LOI, MOU, etc etc).
There has been NO definitive disclosure of ANY solid interest in a product, if we even have a product to sell. We continue to be provided non-informative information as to ANY development with promises (as in the past) of good things to come or to be announced. This is why the realistic ones here continue to view this with such a very healthy amount of skepitism and wear their hip boots to wade through the muck spilled by the company and the naive.
Unfortunately, the small investors are the ones that are and have been hurt by this company. Glad some of you "longs" who also trade feel so good about this.
The stock price will continue to play the same way it has in the past, and much as I have said (as well as Manshoon, Mojo and a few others), won't deviate until the company provides investors with real and truthful facts, not carrots and fluff.
When will we get the answers to real questions based on the "leading prs" presented????
A couple months ago, a list of questions was put together for the company to answer. What happened? Not alot of the longs seem too concerned regarding getting these answered. Makes you wonder why?
BTW, even with my past issues with some (Red), I do appreciate his comittment and time going to the shareholder meeting. I am out of country or I would have been there myself. Too bad others did not go. Especially those longs that lay claim to holding millions of shares as longs. You would think that they would have been extemely interested in where things were playing out?! Only one who went from this (if you believe what they have said about their share count) was Red. Makes ne wonder. It would be nice to know how many shareholders like us were really there for that 3-4 hour discussion and their opinion but my guess is it was a very small #. That's a shame also. And now we start seeing old posters who lead the flock to slaughter begin to return, newbies should review all old posts from these board members to see the pattern.
Full disclosure - I was able to salvage almost all of my losses by selling into the move up, I am sorry that it was on the backs of a bunch of newbies. And, until proven otherwise, my opinion that this is nothing more then a science project funded by us holds. No need to respond, comment or ask me to provide specific links, dd, etc etc... my friend has only 1 post a day and frankly those that are realistic already have the same opinion.
Last comment - Newbies, don't fall into the trap of believing ANYTHING said on message boards. Overwhelmingly, the majority of "long" posters all have their own agendas for posting what they do and say, and they are not "long" in the real denotation of the word. From your Cabo/Margarita friend. GLTY
Sorry, this is KBLB, a branch of the now disbanded KGB, and secrecy, misinformation and illusion is their mode of operation.
J/K, we should receive notice of any and all decisions in the KIM meeting by PR today.
Thank you Bob, now I can sleep again! Thought it may be the same old same old.
Sure looks like the "news" couldn't be any better huh. Sure looks like the investment community loves it huh. Geez........
If this is Ben and Kim doing a great job, we are in major trouble, wait, we have been in major trouble....
With this kind of investor relations and marketing, they need protecting
Colorado air and wacky weed aside, the only thing coming together is another carrot. For gosh sakes, so a foreign country is going to fund us lol. All I see here is a defensive coverage for the amsilk article and a reason they will use to postpone the once again anticipated cc. yep, same old same old. was sure hoping that I could exit, don't look good
glty
Wow, this is a first, apparently the no news syndrome and decreasing sp has caused everyone to go to their local drinking holes to lick their wounds and loses. Not one post since yesterday afternoon. WE NEED REAL NEWS
Worth repeating - Amazing, this stock should be approaching all time highs based on the "prs", instead, we continue to, according to most here, "accumulate", even has the share price "continues" to move downward once again.
Heres a possible view - people learned their lesson the hard way when the company did the P&D thing a couple years ago, which of course made the SP artifically high to begin with; then people learned the hard way that the company would not provide any info, just carrots and continued baits for all the problems and delays over the last 2+ years regarding the big "C" word; finally, the company pretty much has scared off any potential investor or even gangered any new interest BECAUSE of the above UNTIL the company shows it can SELL SOMETHING FOR MONEY.
And forget about those big, well known companies who will partner with this company, and forget about all thosen big funds that will invest in this company, THIS IS A SIX CENT STOCK.
And all the conspiracy stories, paranioa, "shorters" LOL, MM manipulations, ete etc etc. Get over it, aint happening, this is a SIX CENT STOCK.
The only intent on my plate is to try to break even, I AM ONE OF THOSE THAT GOT TRAPPED BY ALL THE FLUFF.
So I truly hope this company is legit and can SELL something, and soon.
You can bet that after the filings come out (late of course), this stock will be approaching 52 week lows again - UNLESS OF COURSE, there are revenues - ain't holding my breath.
Dilution potential to unnamed "consultants" is going to be huge.
So, how about it Beno, Mr. T - real news please and SOON
So because some of us question and don't agree, we get responses like this?!
Amazing, this stock should be approaching all time highs based on the "prs", instead, we continue to, according to most here, "accumulate", even has the share price "continues" to move downward once again.
Heres a possible view - people learned their lesson the hard way when the company did the P&D thing a couple years ago, which of course made the SP artifically high to begin with; then people learned the hard way that the company would not provide any info, just carrots and continued baits for all the problems and delays over the last 2+ years regarding the big "C" word; finally, the company pretty much has scared off any potential investor or even gangered any new interest BECAUSE of the above UNTIL the company shows it can SELL SOMETHING FOR MONEY.
And forget about those big, well known companies who will partner with this company, and forget about all thosen big funds that will invest in this company, THIS IS A SIX CENT STOCK.
And all the conspiracy stories, paranioa, "shorters" LOL, MM manipulations, ete etc etc. Get over it, aint happening, this is a SIX CENT STOCK.
The only intent on my plate is to try to break even, I AM ONE OF THOSE THAT GOT TRAPPED BY ALL THE FLUFF.
So I truly hope this company is legit and can SELL something, and soon.
You can bet that after the filings come out (late of course), this stock will be approaching 52 week lows again - UNLESS OF COURSE, there are revenues - ain't holding my breath.
Dilution potential to unnamed "consultants" is going to be huge.
So, how about it Beno, Mr. T - real news please and SOON
And when do you likely see the investment community, all those funds and big money deciding to get in on this?
As far as shorts, what short interest, why people say these things about a stock that trades in this range is utter garbage.
Accumulation? Where?
I do appreciate the regular prs that have been coming out, but, still providing us with not much concrete info. Tooting ones horn when one is the only person who knows what is going on ain't saying much for our investment.
I am looking forward to news also (not pump prs), so how about it
Well I have to say, this is the first PR out that has some solid info without having to read between the lines or guess. I am starting to feel a bit more optimistic about breaking even on my investment in your company.
Mr. Thompson - please continue with this regular, consistent and CONCRETE communication, much appreciated from this shareholder.
Great post Manshoon!
There is no indication that anyone BUT Kim will be at the CC. WHERE DO YOU GUYS GET THESE DISTORTIONS????? Read the pr and don't interpret things.
How about it Kim, now may be a good time to stop this non-info providing mode of operation. Look where it has gotten us.
Give us some specifics on what the hey is going on, or do you need the stock price to get back down to the 52 week lows so CSC can cash in some more?
And where are the 10q s? They are due. I really would like to see all the dilution potential and how many "consultants" we paid this time in millions of shares for the current pumps.
SAME OLD SAME OLD Bob, go back a review 2+ years ago, NOTHING HAS CHANGED WITH KIM OR COMPANY in respect to how shareholders/investors are treated. Nothing more then a piggybank for the kronies of kblb and a forum for cheerleading us blind. CARROTS ARE CARROTS.
LOL, so real investors will flock here because of pumps? Don't think that is what KBLB should be focusing on, in my humble opinion.
Well that was short lived huh.
Looks like the "pump & dump" in full operation.
Tell me it ain't so..................
So we still have NO commercialization deal, correct, 2+ years and still appears no interest or faith in "the product"
You really ought to do some dd on companies you are invested in.
Manshoon not questioning pumps, pointing out the same old same old with this company.
The price range 0.40-2.50 right from good old boy Joel Noel almost 3 yrs ago. Maybe he is now involved with SWA.
How about just some SOLID, CONCRETE, NO BS INFO provided to us Mr. Thompson. Lets start backwards from all of your prs this year and ask VERY SIMPLE QUESTIONS that should have been ALREADY COVERED in your pr/nr:
What was Phase One and its goals?
What is Phase 2 and its goals?
What is Phase 3 and its goals?
Are there more phases and what are their goals?
What a predictable toliet bowl.
Can we all say - MO MORE CARROTS, WHERE'S THE MEAT?
You are soo right, what a great and informative pr, I can't believe I thought it would be the same old same old playing out again. I am loading up at these ridiculiously low prices, can't lose at this one. Kim & Ben are honest as they come, I am even using my next 3 months mortgage payments to buy more!
Go KBLB!!!
GREAT POST!
Wish we had paid attention to this 2.5+ years ago.
As far as the discussion around prs, if there is not a pr this week to follow up on the one that was released at the beginning of last week, then things have NOT changed in respect to this company's past MO, that would be the same old same old and indictive of what we have had to endure.
If the company REALLY has been "quiet" so as not to provide pure fluff or carrots (as the CEO and many have said is the reason), then, there will be a pr this week following up with more solid info.
Great that all these "investors" and "traders" have bought in at these prices and are making the thousands of dollars they have. However, at least on this end, we are still floating in a sea of red, its easy to say this last week has had great movement when we started at 52 week lows. Those of us who bought the hype and carrots of the past are still licking wounds of stupidity. The pps had been around .10 this time last year with an abundance of promises that NEVER materialized, lets hope this time is different.
The CEO has ALWAYS said he does not see his company as a penny stock, ABOUT TIME he starts following through with this view and provides his investors with consistant and informative updates as real companys do.
AS far as how much this company can be worth, lest we forget that PATENTS run out, the longer it takes to get a deal, the shorter the lifespan. We are running out of time to make this the company many say it will be.
Show us that these wonderful products they are developing have real value, how about selling something to validate the science experiments we have been funding. Tired of pipe dreams, fantasies and preaching of the faithful. Lets see something REAL Mr. Thompson.
Just my 2 pesos.
It seems interest and trading has once again dropped off. You would think that if the Monday pr was the start of good things to come, the company would have taken advantage of the momo we had and built on it.
Instead we seem to be back to the old ways. Either the company needed more influx of capital to pay all those expenses and the trading was CSC dumping their shares or we have once again missed a great opportunity to get some legitimacy and real exposure.
Either way, does bode for a change of opinion. Truly a shame
"What it is" is the IR person ONCE again dropping hints to select shareholders rather then just making an announcement or pr, then we get the bs carrot or some relatively ambigious status report or promises of great things in the future.
How about for once trying to be like a real and legit IR person, department and company. Based on history, we know what "it will be" and thats the problem here.
95% of the crap here could all be allieviated with REGULAR and consistant IR representation to shareholders.
Agreed, this would be the road to legitimacy of any announcement/news. Based on past patterns, would not hold my breathe.
Maybe if the company would COMMUNICATE with it's shareholders in a consistent and truthful way as to all the issues that CONTINUE to come up, maybe, just maybe, would some or all of these issues resolve themselves.
Instead, we get zilch, nada, zippo, nothing.
Whatever happened to the new IR direction stated by Mr. Thompson almost a year ago????? Instead of investors having to "chase down" what is going on, maybe the company, which we are shareholders in, should be more communicative to allieviate this types of concerns.
Either dysfunction at best or scam at worst. If Mr. Thompson and this company is for real and doesn't want to be "lumped" into the penny stock scam/pos definition, maybe he should try a bit harder to "relate" to the company shareholders in a constructive and consistent way.
Feel free to pick your pump -
Latest Developments
Letter to Shareholders - 08|05|2012
Monday, April 2, 2012 - Kraig Opens New Laboratory
Listen to CEO's March 30, 2012 Conference Call
March 30, 2012 Conference Call Transcript
Thursday, January 5, 2012 - National Geographic: A First; Silkworms Spin Spider Silk
Tuesday, January 3, 2012 - Scientists Unleash Power of the Spider Web: Kraig Labs Work is Published
Monday, November 14, 2011 - Kraig Creates Seven New Trangenics with Zinc Fingers
Thursday, November 3, 2011 - KBLB: University of Notre Dame Sign Spider Silk Commercial Licensing Agreement
Tuesday, July 5, 2011 - Kraig uses Sigma-Aldrich Zinc Fingers for first micro-injections
Thursday, June 30, 2011 - Kraig Signs $1.5 Million Financing Agreement
Tuesday, May 31, 2011 - Kraig Creates New Commercial Hybrid
Tuesday, April 12, 2011 - Sigma-Aldrich and Kraig to work together to create the next generation biomaterials.
Tuesday, April 12, 2011 - Sigma ® Life Science and Kraig Biocraft Laboratories to Develop Silkworms for the Production of Spider Silk
Wednesday, November 18, 2010
3rd Quarter Financial Statement Reflects a Fifty Percent Reduction in Total Corporate Liabilities
Spider Silk Production Breakthrough Announced
See Video of the Recent Breakthrough Announcement
Video Coverage of Kraig's Genetic Engineering Discoveries
Listen to CEO's June 2011 Conference Call
Listen to CEO's October 2010 Conference Call
Wednesday, September 29, 2010
Spider Silk Technology Breakthrough
Big deal. Like the rest of the company bs, can't even get a trademark completed..... extension, extension, extension..... news is coming, news is coming, news is coming.... have a carrot, have a carrot, have a carrot
Stock price 0.03. That says it all
Dadofduck, jb2 said he will be waiting for the kblb donation as there was no deal in 2012. With a stock price of .03, he is not accepting stock as payment. Save The Mantetee Foundation. Maybe they should start a Save The Monstersilk Foundation. Jimmy Buffett wrote a great song about the Wino and the....... fits this company and its players well
Wow, Merry Christmas to all us bagholders from KBLB.
But yet you trust 2 individuals who you don't know????
I am now down 70+% on alot of money invested. And you trust these guys?????
We get news through indirect avenues rather then directly from these guys. And you trust these guys?????
Statements that were intentionally made have now been proven false by NEW statements made. And you trust these guys??????
He loves his shareholders AS LONG AS THEY CONTINUE TO PAY FOR HIM AND HIS FRIENDS
If any of you don't think its time for Mr. Thompson to get out ahead of the current masacre that is occurring with the stock and company, then you are as untruthful as he is. Lied to and cheated, and we learn it through a newspaper article, yea, that legit and encouraging.
Another one bites the dust
I have 200k invested in this stock and now we are talking about hand holding being a possibility by ND. Its time for the CEO to provide information as to what this worthless pos is heading for if anything.
Dadofduck - relaying this to you from one of my partners in this stock. Donation to "Save The Mantatees" in the name of Kraig Labs per the agreement. Also am to reiterate same old same old for another year.
Same email I have sent to numerous times, thanks for the advise and for keeping up with past posts!
So any chance my questions are going to answered?
So my responce from Ben this morning is saying
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Hi Eric,
He and I are in direct communications and feel free to follow up with him to confirm.
Even though I'm limited in my responses, they actually have reasonable questions, and I appreciate your help.
Sincerely,
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So apparently you have already received an answer??
Well whomever he is "directly" in contact with, it is not me. Last I looked I was a she, not he. Interesting that there are others asking apparently similar and, according to Ben, "reasonable" questions, so then WHY is it that only certain investors command a response to these.
I would appreciate my questions addressed as I would no doubt expect other investors would also appreciate and REQUEST that their investment questions be also answered without FAVORITISM or PREJUDICE.
This is extremely disappointing and highly distressing. Does the IR person have the RIGHT to be selective in WHO he responds to? Does that also mean that whomever he is responding to has information that SHOULD be provided to all of us? I am at a loss for any "reasonable" explaination for this and also see this as both unethical and unprofessional, as well as potentially illegal.
Mr. Hansel,
We are approaching 3 months since our last communication from the company and almost 6 months since any significant discussion/update/direction related to our current research directions, MonsterSilk, the “lab” and ALL of the items discussed by Mr. Thompson in the cc (new employees, change in IR, zinc insertion results, etc etc etc). I have once again been waiting for months to have questions addressed and answered with at least some concrete and specific information provided.
I am frustrated as to the delay and lack of reasoning or response to the above and the past and current stance of the company related to IR. If basic questions cannot be answered in a timely fashion, then the credibility and integrity of this company comes into question. All I am requesting is some accountability and clarification here as one of the company's investors/shareholders.
Should I be contacting Mr. Thompson to address my questions? Considering the large investment I have in this company and the continued delay/postponement of a status report, it appears that Mr. Thompson is the only one who can respond at this time.
As my questions are related to clarification of the current business, organization and business plan from previously publicly disclosed information, I am extremely frustrated as to the lack of follow thru or response to these.
I would appreciate a response.
Regards,
So once again, 4 emails sent last week to company with no response. Must be my fault.
Appreciate if any here could pass on a message to the company or company IR and have SOMEONE from the company kindly respond to their emails.
Go find your own spys for dd.