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"All these new products they are posting to facebook and twitter could've been combined into 1 or more PR's."
I feel good that they are running the business and not pumping the stock with PR's about new products.
Integrity Nutraceuticals
Integrity Nutraceuticals is in Spring Hill, Tennessee
They make products for Muscle Pharm
http://www.integritynut.com/
GLTYA
Have you gone to MSLP's site and ordered any clothes?
I would buy their shaker cup ot a sticker for my car. Maybe even their duffle bag if I needed one but I got one for FREE from CVS!!!!
. Their clothes iare not my style but I like them
I agree...Most companys out there give away or sell apparel, cups , pens etc...
I find no problem with it at all
tomato, Toma-to. GM was even worse off than Ford! Remember 2008?
I worked at GM Yes I remember
FORD never took a bailout not did their shareholders and shares get wiped out
"Good, then there's nothing to argue about."
Not unless you have a problem with it.
BTW it's a debate not an argument
GLTY
"well, then there you go"
There I go what?
I dont have a problem with it!
"So, you know for a fact MSLP doesn't give away free apparel?"
I bet they do just like most companies
I would also bet that they claim it as advertisement and promotion expensence
JMO
I said General Motors not Ford
CVS and Walgreens are pharmacies yet they sell shirts and coffee mugs
Go figure
My wife works for CVS and they give away free apparel all the time
I still have shirts and coffee mugs from working at General Motors. They were still selling apparel in 2008 while in bankruptcy
That's how it is in the coparate world
GLTY
Apparel is a great form of brand recognition and advertisement. Almost every company gives away an or sells Apparel
I call it
telling it like it is
GLTY
Me too...
I am in Rhode Island but from Mass!
GO PATS!!
He was one hell of a player...
Ochocinco set the following franchise records in his ten seasons with the Bengals organization:
Most receiving yards in a season (1,440)
Most receiving yards all-time (10,507)
Most receptions (751)
Most touchdown receptions (66)
Most receiving yards in a game (260)
Most seasons with over 1,000 receiving yards (7)
Most touchdown receptions in a game (3, tied with several other players)
YAWN.....!
You need material.
Your recycled news is stale
GLTY
Good job eucsstamticc
Thanks
Why are you YELLING???
"It only looks suspect because you are making it look suspect..."
I am not the one dropping bread crumbs, playing connect the dots and have 'secret' people I follow
GLTY
Here is the problem
Posters posting these so called meetings with the Directors saying they were told to buy the stock, and posters dropping bread crumbs for others to follow, all these these connect the dot hints and saying things like "it is not time yet, according to the person that I am following on the matter..." and GIGANTIC NEWS COMING SOON and pretending to be in the know is not just merely posting finds for people to come up with their own conclusions. I looks very suspect
GLTY
"...it is not time yet, according to the person that I am following on the matter..."
I agree, there is no need to post this kind of hearsay or plant these, 'I'm in the know and have a friend who knows a friend seeds'
Everything else in the post I have no issues with
JMO
GLTY
I have seen it go both ways on many message boards
Both unwillingness to accept any facts that happen to be negative or positive because of peoples personal agenda
"But if the subject hasn't run it's course, if there is still misunderstanding, keep it going"
Some would say keep the subject going until you see things my way
LOL
GLTY
"99.999% of what is said on this board is opinion and speculation WITHOUT any actual proof."
But 80% has substance or at least some evidencece of truth.
I dont believe in hearsay when it comes to serous matters involving the company or it's directors
" I think rationally discussing concerns, company downfalls and risks is often confused with negativity here"
and it crosses the line when an issue becomes repetitive by the same poster day in and day out
JMO
GLTY
"And what is it anyone or everyone else is doing on this board?"
I am NOT looking for hearsay
I am here to discus the stock and it's prospects and not looking for rumor mill or water cooler drama
GLTY
Dont forget that the directors and employees own shares as part as a pay package in almost every public traded company.
It benefits us all for the stock to go up
GLTY
We seem to have 2 groups here on this board!!
The ones who bought in at a much higher price and are looking backward and the ones who are in at a much lower price and looking forward
Proper DD would have shown that there is no way for a startup like this to get rolling without massively diluting the stock to pay the bills
99.9% of micro cap companies use stock to pay bills until they have enough cashflow
I have not but I would have never bought this stock uness it was under 5 cents
I am fine with getting in at $0.018
FB is turning out to be the best free ad space
LOL
GLTY
Nicely said Sandan
GLTY
"Each and every last one of us on this hub is an 'anonymous' poster!"
All the more reason not to trust what is said without proof
Proper DD is not blindly believing what is posted on message boards by anonymous posters!
GLTY
"And why should his experience NOT be an important facet of "...our own DD..."?"
Because when it comes to anonymous posters on message boards I dont give too much credence unless they can prove their claims or show at least some kind of convincing evidence to what they want you to believe about a company or it's directors.
In the financial world a lot of posters seems to have an agenda on these boards or an axe to grind
Tread lightly
"but we must also defer respectfully to your particular experience and temper our exuberance accordingly."
Ummm, no we don't!
We do our own DD, and temper our exuberance (if that is the case) on our own experience, not the alleged experience of someone else.
My brothers ex-wife will tell you that he was a no good bum but during their brief marriage he was the only one who held a job and bought her everything. Of course he was no saint but everybody who knows him will tell you that he is not half as bad as the person she makes him out to be including his current wife.
There are 2 side to every relationship, both personal and business relationships. The courts hear them everyday
GLTY
"When is Musclepharm no longer considered a "start-up" Hasn't it been 4 years already?"
What metrics matter to retain this sacred status? Is it the years since launch, number of employees, product stage, revenues, or is it the number of shareholders within the company?
Facebook has over 1,000 employees and is over seven years old.
Groupon and Twitter have raised over $1.1 billion and $360 million in funding, respectively.
LinkedIn launched in 2003, which, for all practical purposes, can be considered born out of the last big internet era. However, for some reason, many of these companies are still considered startups. Why?
As trivial of an argument as this may appear, I think that if we are all going to live, work and report about this sector, there should be some consensus within our industry dialog. Therefore, I figured it necessary to ask someone who already has an in depth grasp of the startup industry, in addition to someone who has been on various sides of a startup. I reached out to Adam D' Augelli,an associate at True Ventures, a San Francisco venture capital firm, to provide further insight into this discussion.
Adam states that a company is a startup until it finds product / market fit and has begun to scale.
“Until that happens, a company is exceptionally nimble – small engineering team – hacking away trying to solve a problem,” says D’Augelli.
Once the company starts to scale and the model works – the company begins to have a more bureaucraticstructure which results in processes that inherently make it less startup like.
When questioned about the point before a startup typically begins forming bureaucratic processes, D’Augelli said, “Tactically, a startup usually looks like a team of less than 50 and pre-Series C. But there will be a ton of exceptions to this rule.”
To give some historical context, back in the early days of the Internet, any new company, before it was acquired or went public, was viewed as a startup.
However, to be honest, it really boils down to a debate on word choice. If a startup retains its identity through exponential growth, why shouldn’t it be considered a startup, even if it has raised buckets of funding.
Adam agrees. “At the end of the day, it’s all just semantics – a company can really rock any label it wants.”
With that being said, I say to Groupon, Twitter and others, continue to represent the startup world well, as you already have. As long as you provide value to your consumers, feel free to define yourself as whatever you want.
From businessinsider.com
"It is 100% fair for owners of a company to ask for accountability and the expectation that the executive board is acting in the best interest of the company."
Again, some confuse what they perceive as not in the best interest of the company is just a micro cap startup with inexperienced, overzealous, young players setting the bar too high.
Of course that does not mean that will remain the case for long as shown by the hire of John H. Bluher and soon the new board members
*Inexperienced and young players own this company. Knowing this info and it's repercussions from it should be part of the DD procces before anybody buys the stock.
JMO
GLTY
*Conducting the proper due diligence to ensure successful trading is highly suggested
I am 46 now
GLTY
My plan was t be a millionaire by 30
plans dont always work out codie
dakotaben...some here really have high expectations for a micro cap startup with inexperienced players
There will be a lot of growing pains and missed expectaions along the way
Some people are seeing things from buying at a much higher stock price which is taxing their patience.
Some of us like me are new here and dont feel their pain
Remember...
It's not a sprint, it's a marathon.
GLTY