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Makes me worried at what we Will see after the bell
This is a sure thing. C'mon board.
It was probably just all part of the plan to keep the price down until they buy everything back.
You, sir, are chasing the MSLP dragon.
Charity? Are you kidding me? Hasn't he already banked millions in various ways from this company? I am not so sure that I would say that Frost is in this sort of charity making.
Positive thinking is one thing, but crazy talk is another. You believe that the Canadian girlfriend exists.
All imo.
When I looked I don't think I was the one speaking in absolutes... but words like "I think" and "my opinion." It IS my opinion that Brad may have done some good things here, but it also is my opinion that they would now be better served with someone else in his position. Just my opinion.
But what do I know? To date I have been pretty much 100% wrong. I thought this was an investment at some point and that was my fatal flaw. ONLY traders have been right here... almost every single retail investor has been wrong. Don't get too excited, you are pretty much in the same boat.
I think that the only fact I would assert from my last statement is that Brad is responsible for everything that is going on currently... and that includes the good stuff, but it also includes an SEC investigation, lack of uplisting and PRing things, like share buy back, that seemingly turned out to be bs. He is also responsible for the lying that went along with the press releases they didn't even need to put up.
Give up? Nope. I think there are some share spikes to come. I think they have a decent chance of other good things, but I doubt I will be around here for that in any other capacity. I used to say that this was the shiniest piece of poop in a a big huge pile of poop that is the penny stocks, but I don't anymore because I do think it has moved beyond penny stock world. Unfortunately, in my opinion, however, they continue to do some penny stock things and that is what we spend our time talking about here.
Does Arnold AND Frost hold some weight? Absolutely. But I don't think I am blinded by it. The reality is that both parties are getting paid. In addition, I would guess that Arnold has almost ANY COMPANY just waiting in line for the opportunity to exist in his shadow.
The story you have about how they have changed is pretty much the exact same story that has been repeated over and over and over since before you were here and before I showed up. I am just waiting... and actually hoping... that the conversation can change.
Some of these things that they have done are very recent. C'mon... you have been trying to tell me they have changed since december 10th when they released the share buy back plan? 2 months ago? Bull.
You ever know that guy that just has a habit of lying... maybe they are decent people, but they just feel the need to lie or tell mistruths? That is how I feel about Musclepharm. I feel that maybe they are fundamentally good people, but in order for me to really like them, they just need to quit with the bs. Not that they care, but I suppose I am a snapshot of similar investors.
MSLP profit, share buy back and uplisting is the Canadian girlfriend you met on your summer trip that we all know doesn't exist. If she does, bring her to the party just once. Believe me... I want her to exist. It would make me happy.
MSLP executive team, PLEASE bring your Canadian girlfriend to the party.
ALL IMO and MSLP has sure been an education for me.
I am not sure that I think anything is reformed. It is my opinion is that they need heavier hitters in the board room and that would be the quickest way to bring some heavy handed legitimacy to the discussion. Brad is responsible for them being investigated by the SEC, the share buyback fiascos and ultimately for the very meh pps. For being such a showboat of a company with such a flashy way of operating, they sure run the pps like an old folks home. An old folks home rarely ends well for it's residents and I hope that is not this equities' impending future.
Which do you guys suppose will come first? The financing or the buyback?
Not sure I will invest here, but at least this company can build a respectable website. The product website is almost the best penny stock website I have seen.
LOL.... where else does Nina Hartley and Warren Buffet get brought up on the same day?
Good for you... that kicks butt!
I still anticipate some spectacular news here this month.
If someone invested $5k at $4 and it increased to $8, then the person is up 100%. The person currently has 10k of risk, but also 5k that has the potential to be realized today.
The person who invested 10k at 8$ is up 0%. The person has 10k of risk, like the other guy, but $0 of potential that can be realized today.
For a trader, my opinion would be that the person at $5k is in a better position, as the potential realization of profit is already there. If one sells at 10k, he banks a profit. If the other sells, he banks a loss from trading costs.
It sounds like your point is that they are both risking the same amount of money and I agree with that. The stacks and risk is the same at that moment in time. The opportunities, however, for those individuals are different IMO. If I am playing blackjack and double my money, I would like to think that I am better off than the guy who just sat down at the table. Both are gambling, but one can step away from the table and have been rewarded with gain.
The kind of investor I am talking about is different. Some of the things I have seen about those types of investors point to 5,10,20 or more time frames with what I see as a fundamental belief in the company and commitment to returning value to the investors.
Boy that was wrong.
Only two possible scenarios then imo.
1. He is an insider and profiting.
2. Mental illness.
All imo.
Yeah... FB is exactly like MSLP. Except increasing profit eightfold, continually returning shareholder value and increasing users at a rate that Musclepharm couldn't even fathom.
I am sure that FB has a plan that I don't necessarily see (the "random" purchases you mention may not be random, but clues into a direction... like Google's Nest purchase).. but a real difference for me between MSLP and FB (not that they should every be compared for anything) is that I really trust the Zuck to make moves that will guide them in a direction FOR Facebook and FOR the shareholders, not for self.. For Musclepharm, I am just hoping they deliver one or two out of the many things they promise.
FB NEEDS competition, but who is it? It has the possibility of going into phones, OS, search, video, images... perhaps shopping... online content. Many possible competitors, but I want it to be in the big three/two of something. And whatever it ends up being, advertising will drive it.
Yes, because investors trust them to follow through on what they say they are going to do?
<cough>buyback<cough>uplist<cough>
I mean... cmon... most the discussions on this board are either about how NOW they are going to start delivering or discussing why they didn't deliver.
In terms of FB...
The social penetration of FB is undeniable... even if half of it's regular user base were fake, it would still be a freaking ENORMOUS site. People like to compare it to MySpace, but there is a huge difference. FB didn't even start being monetized until people's grandmothers were on FB and as long as gam gam wants to see pics of little billy AND used FB to do so... they are safe in terms of users. They are growing.
That does not equate to dollars though, does it? Here is the real kicker. The money part of FB is just starting. An ad network is being built. Not only in terms of breadth, but in amount. This is a beast that WILL, imo, continue to grow over the next few Qs. They may miss the market some q this year, but the underlying strength and growth will remain. We will see some big purchases by FB over the next year and some big moves. I think there will be some very interesting decisions coming up.
Alas, nothing will last forever. I don't know where FB will be past a few Qs to a year, but for right now I see this thing moving strong.
In terms of MSLP, I think the play is simple. Are they going to do what they say they are going to do? I think the brand growth here is undeniable. Effin Arnold is on board. World class athletes promote it and Musclepharm logo is on world class stages. That part of this company is epic. EPIC.
They follow through with the share buyback and this thing will go through the roof. They make REAL measurable progress on uplist (not bs "not to tip my hand too much" sort of stuff, but real progress), I see this rocketing up. Now.. they made postive earnings predictions and when I see that, really all I see is a "yeah right.... just like the other things" I think you and JLTG are absolutely right about who is in charge and changing that up will at least give the feeling that they are going to do what thye say. Right now I think the general consensuses by most investors is that 50% of the stuff that they are saying is total BS.
The sarcasm runs deep.
20% drop in a day for me screams bounce (to me) for TWTR. I don't know if this was the right choice, but I will find out. I don't anticipate being here long and I would much rather this be in FB, but I feel that we will see some downswing soon. Once again... I could be wrong.
The increase in FB following earnings, for me, screamed sell. Once again, I don't know if that was the right choice, but I will look to buy again in the 56-58 range. I was getting pretty dang greedy here anyways, as I got in around 19.60 and haven't taken anything off the table yet.
BAC.... I held that for quite a while and it has done well, but sold to buy some more of this. Also, I was in SLV as I thought I was seeing some spike/drops, but it wasn't moving fast enough for me. This is now here as well. I am hoping I don't end up feel stupid for dropping a steady gainer for this.
It may be hope, but likely hope driven by a business that he runs and is likely financially tied to MSLP.
Look at the end of the day, we might find some things here and there (and I like to think I have added to the conversation), but I think this place is like one of thepublic forums on parks and rec. It is fun,interesting and sometimes even useful, but it is always just a little cray cray.
My opinion about him posting here has changed. He is almost definitely an insider. I would almost certainly guess that he generates income from the company and has the ear of some of these guys. In the past, he has mentioned something about warehouses.
There is no reason that any insider should be coming onto ihub and posting anything. period. It just reeks of amateur hour. Even if it sounds all dandy, it opens the company up to liability AND if they give real insider information it opens US up to liability.
IMO, it just seems unprofessional and trashy to have insiders coming on to a public message board to comment. I don't want to see "sorta" comments from people in the know... I want to see the company make comments.
Finally, when the main repeated comment from the person in question is along the lines of "You guys just don't know what you are talking about and I do and you are all trolls and I know what is going on".... it just seems stupid. Having an insider come on here and comment, imo, is penny stock activity. They keep on saying that this is not a penny stock and I think the actions need to start reflecting that.
ALL IMO and I am sure that Jesse is a decent person, I just think it is cheese level 500 for him to be posting here.
I sold all of my FB on earnings announcement and took 25% of that money (still intend on getting back in FB if it drops to where I want)and bought TWTR this morning. I am hoping there will be a good bounce somewhere in this play.
Obviously, the driving force behind both of those stocks is MSLP and Brad. Wall street wised up.... just isn't impacting the pps because of the MMs.
Pretty much.
I think the biggie positive for the year, IMO, is that the Governator now has his first ever supplement and chose to do it through Musclepharm. So there is that.
LOL. Odessa...I always appreciate your posts. I am just slinging you know what. For old times sake and the duss bus. ;)
I sold everything after earnings. Bought at 19.50. I have a buy set for the same dollars at 56 but will start glaring pretty hard at 58. If it shoots up from here and I miss the boat.... no regrets. I will take a triple any day.
Odessa AND Hamham commenting on the same day.... I am torn. Odessa comments and this thing drops. Hamham shows up and this thing goes up. What to do... what to do.
Also, nobody expected a conference call on forward guidance. Why would they? Unless you can point me to that one time when they presented forward guidance in a conference call? pretty sure that never has happened.
ABSOLUTELY...
"Honey, I am going out with the guys... I think I will be home when the bars close."
Show up at 10.... wife is happy and surprised.
"Honey, I am going out with the guys... I will be home at 9"
Show up when the bars closed, whole different reaction.
True story. I stand corrected. From conference call:
"Sydney Rollock - Chief Marketing Officer
Not too long, I think we're shooting for, I would say, mid-to-late January."
I don't think there was any such communication.
I took some off recently. Bought it plus some more back today.
One think I will say about The Arnold this year is that I see it being ALL about his supplement and, de facto, all about Musclepharm. That is very exciting for the company.
Exactly... last year we ran up to like 13... and then? The slope of the chart quickly turned negative.
I think a similar thing has happened every year I have been here around this time. Build up right around now and then BLAMMO... sell into it or whatever. They bring it to new lows.
ALL IMO.
Well, if history repeats itself this year... we will see some spectacular things the next 1.5 months followed by new lows.
Yeah... I don't know. I want to believe they are working to SOX compliance, but I also think it could be just a buzz word that is thrown out there for something fancy to say.
Every single company out there who may, could, or is on a public big board is working to be SOX compliance. If it is fiction that they are going to actually try and uplist, this potential fiction about SOX compliance would fit well with the same BS.
Pondel did business with MSLP when it was in a , IMHO, darker, shadier place and it makes me question this IR company as much as MSLP. I am just as likely to believe the words out of the IR are just as realistic and factual as I believe they were uplisted last summer and the share buyback has already taken place.
I really would like to see less of the talkey sort and more along the lines of the dooey.
ALL IMO.
I think it is just as likely that MSLP is actually the equity that has caused the tumble in the worldwide markets.
Just a reminder that this IR firm is not new to MSLP. They were the IR firm before and someone must have fired the other for whatever reason.
ALL IMO